Strange scratches on body after sleep?!?

[anart]

Thank YOU for sharing. Your description is dead on, especially with the thin scratches. The main difference is that this didn't wake him out of his sleep, he didn't realize until he got in the shower and felt the pain when the water hit it.

I did just get a little bit of new info, turns out that those pictures are from the 2nd time its happened within a week or so. I thought the scratches he was showing me on his back were the same scratches that he told me about over the phone earlier in the week. Obviously I wasn't paying much attention b/c I thought he was kidding. But the first time was on his arm, which has pretty much faded or I would have taken pictures of it as well. But they were exactly the same - long, thin scratches, not enough to draw blood but enough to leave these marks for a few days.

Dawn, were you into this stuff before you got the scratches? Or did the scratches eventually lead you in this direction?

Just a note that 'this stuff' doesn't cause these types of things to happen - assuming this is 'high strangeness'. It's likely that if your friend is an abductee, it's happened many times before and he either didn't fight back (so didn't get scratches) or they weren't bad enough to notice. It is SO much more common than you seem to be thinking.

If it's not something that got caught in his bed or bedclothes or something that happened before he went to bed, then, yes, it could be evidence that he's been messed with. But, guess what - pretty much half the population is messed with. I do suggest that both of you watch all of Karla Turner's videos on YouTube to get up to speed on this so you can stop being freaked out about it and start to learn what steps to take in your own mind and life to possible mitigate it. fwiw.

 

[AdonRy]

Thank YOU for sharing. Your description is dead on, especially with the thin scratches. The main difference is that this didn't wake him out of his sleep, he didn't realize until he got in the shower and felt the pain when the water hit it.

I did just get a little bit of new info, turns out that those pictures are from the 2nd time its happened within a week or so. I thought the scratches he was showing me on his back were the same scratches that he told me about over the phone earlier in the week. Obviously I wasn't paying much attention b/c I thought he was kidding. But the first time was on his arm, which has pretty much faded or I would have taken pictures of it as well. But they were exactly the same - long, thin scratches, not enough to draw blood but enough to leave these marks for a few days.

Dawn, were you into this stuff before you got the scratches? Or did the scratches eventually lead you in this direction?

Just a note that 'this stuff' doesn't cause these types of things to happen - assuming this is 'high strangeness'. It's likely that if your friend is an abductee, it's happened many times before and he either didn't fight back (so didn't get scratches) or they weren't bad enough to notice. It is SO much more common than you seem to be thinking.

If it's not something that got caught in his bed or bedclothes or something that happened before he went to bed, then, yes, it could be evidence that he's been messed with. But, guess what - pretty much half the population is messed with. I do suggest that both of you watch all of Karla Turner's videos on YouTube to get up to speed on this so you can stop being freaked out about it and start to learn what steps to take in your own mind and life to possible mitigate it. fwiw.

Yea i'm not freaked out by it. I'll go toe to toe with those alien pansies if they wanna tango. He's freaked out, and I recommended Karla's work to him. And i know this stuff doesn't cause it to happen - im just trying to explore any possible parallels. Assuming it is "high strangeness," best case scenario is that it was meant to get his attention about something. Thats why I asked if it led Dawn down this path. Worst case scenario is he's some aliens love toy.

Or maybe it happened so that I could these pictures and start this discussion, and someone else could learn from it. Who knows.

 

[anart]

I'll go toe to toe with those alien pansies if they wanna tango.

Anyone who would say that doesn't know much about it.

He's freaked out, and I recommended Karla's work to him.

I recommend Karla's work to you. It might sober you up a bit about it.

And i know this stuff doesn't cause it to happen - im just trying to explore any possible parallels. Assuming it is "high strangeness," best case scenario is that it was meant to get his attention about something. Thats why I asked if it led Dawn down this path. Worst case scenario is he's some aliens love toy.

No, that's not the worst case scenario.

 

[AdonRy]

I'll go toe to toe with those alien pansies if they wanna tango.

Anyone who would say that doesn't know much about it.

He's freaked out, and I recommended Karla's work to him.

I recommend Karla's work to you. It might sober you up a bit about it.

And i know this stuff doesn't cause it to happen - im just trying to explore any possible parallels. Assuming it is "high strangeness," best case scenario is that it was meant to get his attention about something. Thats why I asked if it led Dawn down this path. Worst case scenario is he's some aliens love toy.

No, that's not the worst case scenario.

Hmm, not big on humor. Noted.

 

[EGVG]

I'll go toe to toe with those alien pansies if they wanna tango.

Anyone who would say that doesn't know much about it.

He's freaked out, and I recommended Karla's work to him.

I recommend Karla's work to you. It might sober you up a bit about it.

And i know this stuff doesn't cause it to happen - im just trying to explore any possible parallels. Assuming it is "high strangeness," best case scenario is that it was meant to get his attention about something. Thats why I asked if it led Dawn down this path. Worst case scenario is he's some aliens love toy.

No, that's not the worst case scenario.

Hmm, not big on humor. Noted.

This is a very serious subject, no place for jokes, humor is always welcome, but take it seriously, as we took seriously your friend's story.

EDIT/ADDED: And I think you don't get how serious this subject is! fwiw

 

[Third_Density_Resident]

Okay, so this freaks me out. Why? Because I find the exact same types of scratches every few months upon waking up in the morning. Either on my upper arms or on my back. Thin scratches as though someone has dragged a pointed object over the skin. I don't have nails, don't have pets, etc., etc. I have always found it disturbing but not enough to get freaked out about it, until reading this thread. I think it's time to watch those Karla Turner videos.

 

[EGVG]

Okay, so this freaks me out. Why? Because I find the exact same types of scratches every few months upon waking up in the morning. Either on my upper arms or on my back. Thin scratches as though someone has dragged a pointed object over the skin. I don't have nails, don't have pets, etc., etc. I have always found it disturbing but not enough to get freaked out about it, until reading this thread. I think it's time to watch those Karla Turner videos.

Please, don't freak out! Remember that knowloge protects! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gzVkN_iAWg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNe1RNFBep8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32PIKN7eQhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0ouJfa6daA

Let us know what you feel after watching, I'm sure you'll relax. Take Care!! ;)

 

[Third_Density_Resident]

Thanks for the links EGVG. I shall certainly be watching them.

 

[aragorn]

I'll go toe to toe with those alien pansies if they wanna tango.

Anyone who would say that doesn't know much about it.

He's freaked out, and I recommended Karla's work to him.

I recommend Karla's work to you. It might sober you up a bit about it.

And i know this stuff doesn't cause it to happen - im just trying to explore any possible parallels. Assuming it is "high strangeness," best case scenario is that it was meant to get his attention about something. Thats why I asked if it led Dawn down this path. Worst case scenario is he's some aliens love toy.

No, that's not the worst case scenario.

Hmm, not big on humor. Noted.

As we've learned from the works by e.g. Karla Turner and John Keel, humor and anger can be of use when dealing with negative beings from other dimensions - 4D STS aliens. The big difference is, and I think that this is what anart was getting at, that without knowing thy enemy - really researching it/them, there's no way that a defiant and humorous attitude will be helpful. As you know, ignorance endangers. John Keel spent his whole life researching the alien/UFO issue, gathering an immense amount of knowledge and data on the subject.

Imagine someone making a similar humorous comment about dealing with psychopaths: "I'll go toe to toe with those psychopaths if they wanna tango.", WITHOUT knowing anything about them. As one can guess, the individual saying this wouldn't have a chance surviving a confrontation with a real psychopath.

 

[anart]

Okay, so this freaks me out. Why? Because I find the exact same types of scratches every few months upon waking up in the morning. Either on my upper arms or on my back. Thin scratches as though someone has dragged a pointed object over the skin. I don't have nails, don't have pets, etc., etc. I have always found it disturbing but not enough to get freaked out about it, until reading this thread. I think it's time to watch those Karla Turner videos.

One caution on the Turner videos, they can be very upsetting. She says herself that if you don't want your entire life to change, don't even starting looking into this, just take things like scratches/etc. as they come and move on with your life.

My strong suggestion is to not feed more nervous or fear energy into the situation than is already there. That really weakens your position. Anger is important, as is basically 'getting over it' and having an attitude of 'go away' or 'so what' or 'shrug it off' - there is a non-attachment in such attitudes that lessons the danger. In short, freaking out is what 'they' want you to do. Assuming there is a 'they' at all, which there may not be.

 

[AdonRy]

I'll go toe to toe with those alien pansies if they wanna tango.

Anyone who would say that doesn't know much about it.

He's freaked out, and I recommended Karla's work to him.

I recommend Karla's work to you. It might sober you up a bit about it.

And i know this stuff doesn't cause it to happen - im just trying to explore any possible parallels. Assuming it is "high strangeness," best case scenario is that it was meant to get his attention about something. Thats why I asked if it led Dawn down this path. Worst case scenario is he's some aliens love toy.

No, that's not the worst case scenario.

Hmm, not big on humor. Noted.

As we've learned from the works by e.g. Karla Turner and John Keel, humor and anger can be of use when dealing with negative beings from other dimensions - 4D STS aliens. The big difference is, and I think that this is what anart was getting at, that without knowing thy enemy - really researching it/them, there's no way that a defiant and humorous attitude will be helpful. As you know, ignorance endangers. John Keel spent his whole life researching the alien/UFO issue, gathering an immense amount of knowledge and data on the subject.

Imagine someone making a similar humorous comment about dealing with psychopaths: "I'll go toe to toe with those psychopaths if they wanna tango.", WITHOUT knowing anything about them. As one can guess, the individual saying this wouldn't have a chance surviving a confrontation with a real psychopath.

Thank you for understanding humor. I was about to relegate myself to the joke forum. You haunted guys are too serious for me! :) The whole point of saying "i'd go toe to toe" is that i'm not afraid of them. I know enough from reading everything laura has written and the cass logs that if you're afraid, you already lost. If I had edit priviledges i'd go back and change "i'd go toe to toe" to "i am not afraid of them."

From now on, i'll try to sober up and tread the line between humor and treating the aliens with respect. At least in the haunted forums. Look for my post in the joke boards "101 ways to go toe to toe with an aliens love toy."

That was a joke by the way. ;D. I think maybe my jokes aren't coming across well so i'm adding emoticons as a guide to for the less humor inclined.

 

[AdonRy]

and also, i'm not even sure how this became about my alien respect. This is about my poor alien sex slave friend! Let's not lose focus on the scratches people! If we do, then they won!

 

[anart]

and also, i'm not even sure how this became about my alien respect. This is about my poor alien sex slave friend! Let's not lose focus on the scratches people! If we do, then they won!

The problem isn't with humor, AdonRy. Humor is used a LOT here. The problem is with what appears to be a lack of respect for your readers or a lack of external consideration for them. Being prey of hyperdimensional beings simply isn't funny, but it is a reality - a horrific one in which we are all involved.

Humor can be used to relieve pressure and this is very, very important. When it's used to distract or belittle, however, it really has very little place here. I think that is why you received the reaction you did. Perhaps re-reading the forum guidelines would be beneficial? I don't think you intend to come across the way you do, so re-reading them to get more of a feel for the forum might help.

 

[Nawd]

Dawn, were you into this stuff before you got the scratches? Or did the scratches eventually lead you in this direction?

I had no interest in 'aliens' at the time, I just looked around the room to see what might have caused it. When I found nothing, I just shrugged it off and decided I'd figure it out eventually. Now the years following were interesting, lots of religions were introduced, and I studied intently many of them (without real dedication). Then I dropped all of them for a short time. But always researched philosophy and religion without attachment or expectation.

When I found SOTT, they didn't even have a forum yet, and I joined the yahoo group, but just read but didn't respond.

I had totally forgot about some of these memories until I was introduced to EE. It brought up many, I guess I should say, 'accessable memories.' Things trigger memories like nothing else before. Not only that, but emotion that was locked up was and is able to be accessed.

I also remember some of the dreams (memories?) about aliens that I don't wish to share at this point. Or in this conversation. Mostly because it's just a personal experience, there isn't any real evidence. But I'm pretty sure that something happened, and I'm pretty sure what did happen. I'll expand on this if needed, but it was a dream so this isn't the proper place to share.

I basically have always held the attitude that I can't control what I can't control. Aside from that, I'm also not amused or awed at 'alien technology.' Nor did I wish to be one of 'those' who love UFO stuff. So I've avoided it, and didn't become fanatical in any direction.

After watching the videos suggested by EGVG of Karla Turner, and with the advice of Anart, I knew I had read a lot of this from the C's, but it is pretty obvious that they (aliens) are like the watchers over the cows. We being the cows. How we (as a whole, treat animals and subdue them), well they do it very well.

There is a great thread to watch for, I don't have it on hand, but I believe you can find it by searching the name: Karla Turner. You'll learn a lot more from that thread than from this conversation. :)

 

[AdonRy]

Dawn, were you into this stuff before you got the scratches? Or did the scratches eventually lead you in this direction?

I had no interest in 'aliens' at the time, I just looked around the room to see what might have caused it. When I found nothing, I just shrugged it off and decided I'd figure it out eventually. Now the years following were interesting, lots of religions were introduced, and I studied intently many of them (without real dedication). Then I dropped all of them for a short time. But always researched philosophy and religion without attachment or expectation.

When I found SOTT, they didn't even have a forum yet, and I joined the yahoo group, but just read but didn't respond.

I had totally forgot about some of these memories until I was introduced to EE. It brought up many, I guess I should say, 'accessable memories.' Things trigger memories like nothing else before. Not only that, but emotion that was locked up was and is able to be accessed.

I also remember some of the dreams (memories?) about aliens that I don't wish to share at this point. Or in this conversation. Mostly because it's just a personal experience, there isn't any real evidence. But I'm pretty sure that something happened, and I'm pretty sure what did happen. I'll expand on this if needed, but it was a dream so this isn't the proper place to share.

I basically have always held the attitude that I can't control what I can't control. Aside from that, I'm also not amused or awed at 'alien technology.' Nor did I wish to be one of 'those' who love UFO stuff. So I've avoided it, and didn't become fanatical in any direction.

After watching the videos suggested by EGVG of Karla Turner, and with the advice of Anart, I knew I had read a lot of this from the C's, but it is pretty obvious that they (aliens) are like the watchers over the cows. We being the cows. How we (as a whole, treat animals and subdue them), well they do it very well.

There is a great thread to watch for, I don't have it on hand, but I believe you can find it by searching the name: Karla Turner. You'll learn a lot more from that thread than from this conversation. :)

Thanks for sharing. That was incredibly personal. You don't need to go into any more detail. I remember reading in the Law of One that occassionally UFOs appeared to people to get their interest without violating free will. I was interested to hear more of your path, and if that incident played an important role.

I checked out the Karla Turner post a little - I had to stop for every youtube video, and of course those related videos suck you in. I know the bad guys are awful. I wish I could say I haven't had any experience but who knows? I used to take ambien regularly for sleep - they've could've had their way with me any night of the week, i'd never remember. But i'm learning how to heal with reiki and all kinds of positive stuff, i'd rather learn about that and help people than worry about something can't control!

Your reply made it worthwhile. That and the poetic qualities of the phrase "alien love toy." :D