Strange "Sinkhole" in Tropical storm - 115 Dead

[RedFox]

I wondered why that road was closed when I walked past it today!!
Well, fwiw in this case it is interesting to note that (supposedly, so it is only hear say) that whole area of Bury is built on tunnels that where part of the cathedral (further down the hill).
There have been a few more small holes like this around Suffolk the last month or so......not to mention several UFO sightings by friends (which I haven't seen reported anywhere). There are regular orange lights around this whole county.

I do find myself wondering every so often why it is I've come to live in an area surrounded by all this weirdness?

To add (I had forgotton about this) driving away from Bury a week or so ago I saw what I can only describe as pillars of 'light' and 'dark' (they where not cast by sun through cloud).....like you might get if there was a large search light pointing into the sky....which I could only see out of the peripheral of my vision (if I looked right at them I couldn't see them, so had to look to the side of them)....I tracked these as I drove down the road and they moved in perfect time with the surroundings....that is to say it appeared to be an external objective 'thing' apposed to me.

I have no idea if any of this is connected, or just random coincidence.

 

[MichaelM]

Not exactly a sinkhole but could be related to the "'opening up' theme" in this thread.

Neighborhood in California Is Set Ablaze by Blast
_http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/us/11fire.html?src=me

SAN BRUNO, Calif. — Rescue crews and investigators combed through the rubble of a San Francisco suburb on Friday to search for the missing and try to determine how a ruptured fuel line erupted in an intense fireball that killed at least four people on Thursday night, leaving a horrific scene of destruction covering 15 acres.

[...]

“We know that a natural gas line ruptured yesterday around 6:24 p.m., but we don’t know what caused it or what happened,” Lieutenant Governor Maldonado said. “We will find out soon.”

[...]

The blast occurred about 8 miles south of San Francisco, and fire officials said flames reached up to 80 feet in the air.

The boom was so loud and devastating that some officials initially suspected that a plane might have smashed into the neighborhood.

This news was all over the news networks when we got home at around 7pm. It was officially determined to be a ruptured 'main pipe' (about 16"-24" in diameter) for natural gas and so the fire was really going and shooting up over a hundred feet before the gas was turned off. What's curious is that it took over an hour before the utility company shut the gas off feeding into that pipe and until then, the fire fighters could not do anything to control that main blaze.

Residents had reported smelling gas in that area as early as a week ago but the utility personnel who visited could not find the smell when they got there to check out the reports.

The cause of the pipe blowout is still officially undetermined.

 

[Keit]

Notice that people heard an explosion-like sound prior to the appearance of the crack. Also, go to the link to see the video.

_http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/Mysterious-crack-still-begs-answers

Mysterious crack still begs answers

Nearly 200 yards long, 5 feet deep in parts

MENOMINEE TOWNSHIP, Mich. - Nestled just beyond the tree line of Eileen Heider's 53 acres, is Menominee County's newest tourist attraction.

"It's amazing, I want to get back there and check the rest of it out," said Kevin Clermont of Wallace, Michigan, who stopped on his way home from work to sightsee.

Heider and neighbors heard an explosion-like sound Monday morning. Heider found the nearly 200-yard-long crevice, which measures five-feet deep in parts, Tuesday.

"I was sitting in my recliner and the recliner started to vibrate," said Heider. "And it's not electric."

Trooper Paul Anderson with Michigan State Police was the first to check it out. He said he ruled out a gas line leak, but could not determine much more.

"This would be a first," he said. "You don't learn that at the academy."

Anderson said he called some geological experts. So far none have come to look at the crevice.

There have not been any reported earthquakes in the area.

 

[clerck de bonk]

Notice that people heard an explosion-like sound prior to the appearance of the crack. Also, go to the link to see the video.

_http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/Mysterious-crack-still-begs-answers

Mysterious crack still begs answers

Nearly 200 yards long, 5 feet deep in parts

MENOMINEE TOWNSHIP, Mich. - Nestled just beyond the tree line of Eileen Heider's 53 acres, is Menominee County's newest tourist attraction.

"It's amazing, I want to get back there and check the rest of it out," said Kevin Clermont of Wallace, Michigan, who stopped on his way home from work to sightsee.

Heider and neighbors heard an explosion-like sound Monday morning. Heider found the nearly 200-yard-long crevice, which measures five-feet deep in parts, Tuesday.

"I was sitting in my recliner and the recliner started to vibrate," said Heider. "And it's not electric."

Trooper Paul Anderson with Michigan State Police was the first to check it out. He said he ruled out a gas line leak, but could not determine much more.

"This would be a first," he said. "You don't learn that at the academy."

Anderson said he called some geological experts. So far none have come to look at the crevice.

There have not been any reported earthquakes in the area.

Is it just me or... What can You see in the video at 00:40(the crack up close)?

 

[Keit]

Is it just me or... What can You see in the video at 00:40(the crack up close)?

Don't know. I see the crack up close. What do you think you are seeing?

Meanwhile, here are more details about the crack. Quite a mystery! I am very curious to know what caused it.

_http://www.dailypress.net/page/content.detail/id/521414.html

Large crevice remains a mystery
By Dionna Harris

STEPHENSON - The sudden appearance of a 150-foot, 4-foot-deep crevice in Menominee Township remains a mystery and is causing a great deal of speculation.

The crevice appeared after landowners heard a loud boom between 8 and 9 a.m. Monday, followed by the ground shaking for a few seconds. The landowners later found a large crevice south of their Menominee Township home Tuesday.

Residents are speculating what could have caused the mysterious occurrence.

Eileen Heider, who owns the property where the crevice first appeared earlier this week, said Michigan State Police were attempting to locate an expert to come in and determine what caused the crevice.

"I have heard some people mention it appearing due to the amount of rain we received this year, but if that was the case, then there should be water in it, and the crevice is bone dry,' said Heider.

She said there have been other theories offered, including a lightning bolt that may have struck the ground.

Other theories Heider has heard range from fissures, which with the high water table may have caused collapse, to a pocket of methane gas that exploded under pressure.

"It's not a straight line; it's crooked like it was made by someone who may have been drinking," said Heider, referring to the crevice.

She added the crevice is not only in the wooded area where it was first discovered, but it also runs into a field near the Heider home.

"We don't know if the crack started in the field and runs into the woods or if it started in the woods and runs into the field," she said.

Heider said in some areas of the crevice, rocks can be seen, some of which have been split due to the earth's pressure in those areas.

When the crevice appeared, approximately five feet of earth heaved, forming a natural berm along the perimeter. It left some trees leaning to the north on one side and to the south on the other.

Calls have been made to the U.S. Geological Survey office, and also to Michigan Technological University Geological Mining office. However there is no indication if anyone from either office will investigate the matter.

The crevice was originally reported to the Michigan State Police. State Police Trooper Paul Anderson of the Stephenson Post said because the matter is environmental and not criminal in nature, there is little they can do to investigate the matter further.

"When I first received the call, my concern was it was a natural gas pipeline rupture, but that was quickly ruled out," said Anderson.

Anderson contacted MTU and the person he spoke with would not speculate further without first seeing the crevice.

In the meantime, the Heider family is still waiting patiently for answers.

 

[stellar]

Notice that people heard an explosion-like sound prior to the appearance of the crack. Also, go to the link to see the video.

_http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/Mysterious-crack-still-begs-answers

Mysterious crack still begs answers

Nearly 200 yards long, 5 feet deep in parts

MENOMINEE TOWNSHIP, Mich. - Nestled just beyond the tree line of Eileen Heider's 53 acres, is Menominee County's newest tourist attraction.

"It's amazing, I want to get back there and check the rest of it out," said Kevin Clermont of Wallace, Michigan, who stopped on his way home from work to sightsee.

Heider and neighbors heard an explosion-like sound Monday morning. Heider found the nearly 200-yard-long crevice, which measures five-feet deep in parts, Tuesday.

"I was sitting in my recliner and the recliner started to vibrate," said Heider. "And it's not electric."

Trooper Paul Anderson with Michigan State Police was the first to check it out. He said he ruled out a gas line leak, but could not determine much more.

"This would be a first," he said. "You don't learn that at the academy."

Anderson said he called some geological experts. So far none have come to look at the crevice.

There have not been any reported earthquakes in the area.

Is it just me or... What can You see in the video at 00:40(the crack up close)?

OK I give up, what are you looking at?

 

[WhiteBear]

I saw this thread and, reading through it, I remembered something that happened here on May 1st, when there was a water main break that interrupted water service to 2 million people in the area. This was a new pipeline. The official statement was that a coupling gave way. The timeline of news releases from the MWRA shows the event on May 1st, the coupling in question was found and sent to a lab for failure analysis on July 28th (of which there is no follow-up of results, as of yet...which seems quite a long time), yet on the 26th of August, there is another upwelling of water, 220 feet from the previous break.

This suggests to me that the coupling was -not- the root cause of the pipe failure, but more likely something more wide-ranging in the area, such as a geologic event.

 

[clerck de bonk]

OK I give up, what are you looking at?

The trees on both sides are leaning away from the crack. IMO if it was an optical(fisheye lens)illusion or something like that they would curve to center and top of the picture... Leading me to believe that they are indeed leaning! And it's not only the trees closest to the edges that are affected... Do You see it now?

 

[Keit]

The trees on both sides are leaning away from the crack. IMO if it was an optical(fisheye lens)illusion or something like that they would curve to center and top of the picture... Leading me to believe that they are indeed leaning! And it's not only the trees closest to the edges that are affected... Do You see it now?

Yep, they are indeed leaning. And the latest article also mentions it:

When the crevice appeared, approximately five feet of earth heaved, forming a natural berm along the perimeter. It left some trees leaning to the north on one side and to the south on the other.

 

[clerck de bonk]

Yep, they are indeed leaning. And the latest article also mentions it:

Didn't notice that one

When the crevice appeared, approximately five feet of earth heaved, forming a natural berm along the perimeter. It left some trees leaning to the north on one side and to the south on the other.

So what makes the earth heave like that? Is this location, tectonically speaking, active? Any of You have any ideas? I feel like I'd like to have one... now!

 

[Keit]

So what makes the earth heave like that? Is this location, tectonically speaking, active? Any of You have any ideas? I feel like I'd like to have one... now!

Here is a better picture of the hill and the leaning trees:

And the following article offers possible explanation:

The crevice, or fissure, may be the result of fractured rock deep beneath other rock layers, said Rory Mattson, executive

He said the phenomenon is not unusual in the Upper Peninsula. He said his assessment was based on information from others and that he hadn't visited the site himself.

In areas where there are fractured rock formations, the annual freeze-thaw process generates pressure and can lead to fissures and sink holes.

"Sometimes the pressure becomes so great that it can push the rock and soil together, leading to the formation of a hill," Mattson said.

He added that with the information provided concerning the fissure, the creation of a hill on Heider's property may be from this natural process.

"The hill probably formed from the pressure, and somewhere along the line, the pressure was released leading to the creation of the fissure," Mattson said.

I search for fireballs, meteorites and ufos in the area, including Wisconsin, but nothing for the same period. The only thing was freeze warning on the night of 3d of October (and the crack happened on the 4th at 9 in the morning). Can rapid freeze and then change in the temperature in the morning cause such a crack?

And here is another video, probably by the local:
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vHf127U6WE&feature=player_embedded

Looks rather biblical. Others, by the way, already started to assign it to 2012. The above video, for example was located on one of these sites. And here is another one that also has a video where you can clearly see the divide:
_http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3863141%3ABlogPost%3A205298

Also, I am not an expert of course. but the divide and the created hill perhaps indicate that what ever happened was directed from bellow, maybe pushed the trees roots up this way? Unless, of course, something strong and quick striking from above (a lightning?) could cause the same effect.

edit: added.

 

[celtic]

These sink holes seem to be induced but knowing that it is going to be massive earth changes anything is possible in this current time.

 

[clerck de bonk]

So what makes the earth heave like that? Is this location, tectonically speaking, active? Any of You have any ideas? I feel like I'd like to have one... now!

Here is a better picture of the hill and the leaning trees:

And the following article offers possible explanation:

The crevice, or fissure, may be the result of fractured rock deep beneath other rock layers, said Rory Mattson, executive

He said the phenomenon is not unusual in the Upper Peninsula. He said his assessment was based on information from others and that he hadn't visited the site himself.

In areas where there are fractured rock formations, the annual freeze-thaw process generates pressure and can lead to fissures and sink holes.

"Sometimes the pressure becomes so great that it can push the rock and soil together, leading to the formation of a hill," Mattson said.

He added that with the information provided concerning the fissure, the creation of a hill on Heider's property may be from this natural process.

"The hill probably formed from the pressure, and somewhere along the line, the pressure was released leading to the creation of the fissure," Mattson said.

I search for fireballs, meteorites and ufos in the area, including Wisconsin, but nothing for the same period. The only thing was freeze warning on the night of 3d of October (and the crack happened on the 4th at 9 in the morning). Can rapid freeze and then change in the temperature in the morning cause such a crack?

And here is another video, probably by the local:
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vHf127U6WE&feature=player_embedded

Looks rather biblical. Others, by the way, already started to assign it to 2012. The above video, for example was located on one of these sites. And here is another one that also has a video where you can clearly see the divide:
_http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3863141%3ABlogPost%3A205298

Also, I am not an expert of course. but the divide and the created hill perhaps indicate that what ever happened was directed from bellow, maybe pushed the trees roots up this way? Unless, of course, something strong and quick striking from above (a lightning?) could cause the same effect.

edit: added.

Thank You Keit!
I'll go(back to sleep ;D) with the first explanation which would mean that there are two "sinkholes" one on either side of the crack.

But like celtic said...

These sink holes seem to be induced but knowing that it is going to be massive earth changes anything is possible in this current time.

 

[Redrock12]

Toppling cranes, stabbings, plane crashes, and now sinkholes. Is all of this being caused by hyperdimensional phenomena? Just a possibility, fwiw.

 

[Keit]

Toppling cranes, stabbings, plane crashes, and now sinkholes. Is all of this being caused by hyperdimensional phenomena? Just a possibility, fwiw.

Now, that is an interesting possibility!

First, there is an update on possible reasons of the crack. Michigan Tech researcher says it was a small earthquake. Apparently it would be the first quake ever recorded in the area.

_http://www.mtu.edu/news/stories/2010/october/story31847.html

That shaking and loud noise experienced recently in Menominee County of Upper Michigan was indeed an earthquake, albeit a small one, according to a Michigan Tech researcher.

“The large crack and ridge were created most probably by a magnitude 1 or 2 earthquake,” said Wayne Pennington, chair of geological and mining engineering and sciences, of the events that took place Monday, October 4.[...]

That ridge, according to Pennington, is the most informative feature, not the crack. Residents report that this ridge was not there earlier, and it appeared at the same time as the crack.

“The most-likely explanation is that the underlying limestone has faulted in a manner that has pushed rock on one side of the fault up and over the rock on the other side—a ‘reverse’ or ‘thrust’ fault,” said Pennington. “The limestone is hard and brittle, and this movement can be described as the small earthquake that was felt.

Overlying the limestone is about 20 feet of soft clay, he said. This clay will deform in a "mushy" manner, rather than breaking along a fault. It ends up being pushed together, and this is what formed the ridge.

“Imagine a carpet or towel on top of two boards that are being pushed together,” Pennington said. “The carpet will wrinkle, and at the top of the wrinkle, the carpet pile will be spread apart, like the trees. The crack is similar to the one that forms at the top of a loaf of bread as the dough rises.”

Pennington said that small earthquakes can occur almost anywhere, as stress accumulates locally and is occasionally released suddenly.

“The area where the faulting occurred is not very likely to have another event soon, but the neighboring areas—at the ends of the ridge and crack—may experience similar events in the future,” he said.

But I found something else interesting that could indicate a "window" of some sort, unless of course it's airplane's fault. Who knows.

_http://www.twincities.com/ci_16216636?nclick_check=1

Ice from plane crashes through roof of Menomonie-area couple

Dave and Eda Samdahl were just sitting down to lunch with their granddaughter and a friend Tuesday when they received an unexpected visitor.

Authorities believe a chunk of ice at least a foot in diameter plummeted 25,000 to 30,000 feet from an airplane and crashed through the roof of the Samdahls' home along Tainter Lake, north of Menomonie, leaving torn shingles and broken plywood in its wake.

Dave Samdahl said the ice broke through the roof at about 1:05 p.m. from an airplane flying west. The ice tore a 3-foot-wide hole in the roof and damaged a porch ceiling.

"It scared us," Dave Samdahl said. "You don't know it's happening and all of a sudden you see ice and shingles and different parts of the ceiling on the patio."

The origin of the ice remains uncertain, but ice can form on airplanes when they develop a water system leak and the moisture freezes at high altitudes. As airplanes travel through warmer air, the ice melts and falls.

"You'll hear once in a while a farmer finding ice in a field," Dave Samdahl said.

Dunn County Sheriff Dennis Smith estimated from photos he saw that the ice was 12 to 18 inches in diameter.

Smith said he has heard of a several similar ice drops in other locations, but this is the first instance he is aware of in Dunn County.

"It was pretty good-sized ice," he said. "It hit the ground and shattered."

The family froze some of the ice as a memento of the incident, Dave Samdahl said, noting insurance coverage will pay for the damage to the roof.

Despite the Samdahls' surprise at ice crashing through their home, they are taking the incident in stride.

"It's history," Dave Samdahl said.