Strange spiral light seen in north of Norway

[thorbiorn]

The descriptions they give in a Danish paper are:

Lyset bevægede sig i spiralbevægelser hen over himlen, indtil det til sidst forsvandt i en stum eksplosion, som efterlod en langsomt forsvindende chokbølge på den sorte morgenhimmel.

That is: "The light moved in spiral movements across the sky, until it finally disappeared in a silent explosion, which left a slow moving chockwave on the dark morning sky."

Flere tusinde mennesker så en lyskugle, som bevægede sig i et spiralformet mønster hen over himlen, indtil det pludselig blev opløst i en chokbølge.

Or: "Several thousand people saw a lightball, which moved in a spiralshaped pattern accross the sky, until it suddenly was dissolved into a chockwave" The later published article post links to the two videos that Vulcan59 mentions and mentions, slightly exagerated that this kind of lights have been seen all over the world.

 

[David]

Perhaps this is a horror story in the making where Russian military experimenting with new technology screw up and have to use ICBM to destroy something they could no longer control or it was a successful experiment with new defence technology to swallow up ICBM’s, they just disappear in a swirl to another dimension.

Or

Just a little show for the Russian military, a message.

 

[Azur]

I came across this video of a simulation that shows a possible explanation to the visual effects (explains the dark hole seen expanding, too):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8i5EfmYU4

 

[Nević Nenad]

Great simulation, but in real life I think it can't be done so precisely, there are also atmospheric affect to it. If it is particle dispersion, object must be very wide, and atmospheric variables like pressure, wind, humidity would affect it. Also because of that i think that it cant be rocket booster. It is too perfect and disappearing too fast to be done with "normal" rocket.

There is no video like that bigger photo, with green beam to the ground, it would be interesting to see from which direction green beam came, from sky to ground or otherwise? If it is from the sky to the ground, maybe the both components could be projected/dispersed from the satelite, in that way atmospheric variables could be avoided in some extent.

Then again, it's maybe just some portal openings try out :)

 

[Renaissance]

The UK Telegraph is also carrying the story now.

_http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/6770959/Strange-light-in-Norwegian-sky-sparks-mystery.html

Strange light in Norwegian sky sparks mystery
A eerie turquoise light spotted over Norway has sparked a mystery, with suggestions it could be a missile test.


Published: 3:48PM GMT 09 Dec 2009

The Norwegian Metrological Institute has received hundreds of phonecalls from confused observers but so far has been unable to identify its origin.

Some experts have speculated that the phenomenon might have been caused by a Russian rocket launch. However, the Russian embassy insists such claims are completely unfounded.

Neither meteorologists, astronomers, or the Armed Forces have offered a solution to the matter.

The light was captured by amateur photographer Jan Petter Jorgensen while he was on his way to work at a salmon factory.

"The light appeared for 2-3 minutes. I could not believe my eyes, and got the shivers and was quite shaken by it", Mr Jorgensen said.

Morten Kristiansen, who saw the light phenomena from Sortland in northern Norway, added: " A large ring appeared, and then spread out, sending a green beam down to earth, "says

The article ends abruptly right there.

 

[Third_Density_Resident]

Avala, you beat me to it. I was just about to link to that clip also. I have to say it's probably the most plausible explanation, especially when you can actually see the spiralling effect in the blue part also.

Edit: Sorry Avala, I meant Azur.

 

[daveOS]

That supposedly plausible explanation video of the fuel spinning out doesn't account for too many other aspects of the event.

According to witness accounts cited previously in this thread "The green line or beam that you see in the picture appeared probably ten to twelve minutes afterwards." That's after the very strong white light rose off the horizon. Witnesses describe seeing the glowing light rising over the hill as if the moon were rising and so it took another 10 minutes to rise to it's apex and start it's spinning before the blue-green spiraling beam appeared.

It does appear to me as Avala speculates that the beam came from the sky to the ground, but that orange beam in the Senja video appears to be shooting from the ground to the sky.

The missile cover story can't answer the durations of the various phases of the event - let alone all the dimensions of the light show - and leaves a lot of explaining for the residual sky and ground level debris fields.

 

[Windmill knight]

That supposedly plausible explanation video of the fuel spinning out doesn't account for too many other aspects of the event.

According to witness accounts cited previously in this thread "The green line or beam that you see in the picture appeared probably ten to twelve minutes afterwards." That's after the very strong white light rose off the horizon. Witnesses describe seeing the glowing light rising over the hill as if the moon were rising and so it took another 10 minutes to rise to it's apex and start it's spinning before the blue-green spiraling beam appeared.

If people saw it rise from the horizon, I think that can rule out a falling piece of debris. As for the possibility of a rocket, why is it that in the history of rocketry we have never seen anything like this before? I remain unconvinced that this was something 'normal'.

By the way, it wasn't Avala who made the simulation, but someone else. :) Avala actually seems skeptic about it.

 

[daveOS]

Pertaining to it being a disk rising over the mountains that started spinning to become a spiral and then emit the torquoise beam here are the quotes I'm referring to.
[possible] Massive UFO event in Norway

It looked like it came over a mountain. First, it went into orbit, before it stopped completely. Then it began to revolve and spiral. Then there was suddenly a big ring, so big that it covered the entire sky’ said Stig Roar Hansen (38) who also witnessed the event.

First there was a very strong white light in the middle of the ring. Then it began to spread outwards. The green line or beam that you see in the picture appeared probably ten to twelve minutes afterwards. It was my father who discovered it. He had never seen anything like that before. We stood on the porch at home and wondered how this could be happening. I do not think it's the aurora which we are accustomed to seeing, said Kristiansen.who works at Skjervoy in Troms.

And then running things through Google Translator we get these accounts...
_http://www.nordlys.no/nyheter/article4749996.ece

"It started as a large shady. Eventually formed the spirals. Shady disappeared slowly but surely and formed a huge black hole in the middle. Then it was into a powerful green beam of light that hung over the sky for several minutes", said Northern Lights-reading Elizabeth Bear Valley.

_http://hough.blogg.no/

Helio went from being a spiral with a bright spot in the middle of the picture, that it was a kind of disk in the sky with light, whether it was black in the middle. After a few seconds was a kind of green giant beam from behind the mountains up and inside the circle.

_http://www.vg.no/nyheter/vaer/artikkel.php?artid=596359

We saw it from the Inner Harbor in Tromso. It was absolutely fantastic. It almost looked like a rocket that spun around and around, and then went diagonally down the heavens. It looked like the moon was coming over the mountain, but then came something completely different.

 

[JEEP]

Although I'm more inclined to think this phenomenon is of an ominous nature, what if it's the opposite? Is it a "crop circle" manifested in the sky? Those anomalous orange lights made me wonder about this possibility. It's easy for the PTB to keep crop circles off the mainstream public radar. Not so easy to do with fantastic aerial phenomenon! That might also explain the immediate damage control explanation of space junk spewing fuel as it spirals through space.

 

[Laura]

It could very well be exactly what they are saying: something spinning and burning in the sky, giving off a lot of smoke. The OMINOUS part would be the atmospheric conditions that are present that "hold" the smoke suspended. Kind of like the atmospheric conditions that hold the contrails of jets in place and allow them to stay there, then grow and act as attractors to more cloud formation.

These atmospheric conditions are also probably related to the noctilucent cloud phenomenon: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/189173-Noctilucent-Clouds-Go-Wild

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/185582-The-First-Noctilucent-Clouds-of-2009

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/130848-NASA-Mission-to-Explore-Noctilucent-Clouds

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/197221-Huge-fireball-explodes-over-western-US

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/187622-Space-shuttle-science-shows-how-1908-Tunguska-explosion-was-caused-by-a-comet

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/187196-Midnight-sun-Night-shining-clouds-light-up-dark-skies-of-Britain

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/160051-Summer-Solstice-Brings-Glow-in-the-Dark-Clouds

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/166490-Puzzling-Property-Of-Night-shining-Clouds-At-Edge-Of-Space-Explained

In this last piece, we read:

Sodium and iron atoms collect in the upper atmosphere after being blasted off incoming micrometeors. These metal atoms settle into a thin layer of vapor that sits just above the altitude at which noctilucent clouds occur. Astronomers recently have been using the sodium layer to create laser-illuminated artificial guide stars for adaptive optics telescopes that remove the distorting affects of atmospheric turbulence to produce clearer celestial images.

Measurements of the density of sodium and iron atomic vapor layers show that the metal vapor is depleted by over 80 percent when noctilucent clouds are present. "Noctilucent clouds have been shown to act very much like a flycatcher for sodium and iron atoms," Bellan says. Indeed, in laboratory experiments, other researchers have found that at the frigid temperatures (-123 degrees Celsius) within noctilucent clouds, atoms in sodium vapor quickly become deposited on the surface of ice to form a metallic film.

"If you have metal-coated ice grains in noctilucent clouds, the radar reflectivity can become enormous" he says. "This reflectivity is not the sum of reflections from individual ice grains, which would not produce a very large reflection. Instead, what happens is that ripples in the cloud of metal-coated ice grains reflect in unison and reinforce each other, somewhat like an army marching in step across a bridge causes the bridge to vibrate."

And, of course, they gave their nod to the global warming scam by saying:

"The incidence of noctilucent clouds seems to be increasing, perhaps because of global warming," says Paul M. Bellan, a professor of applied physics at Caltech.

According to Victor Clube's ideas, we may be traveling in an area of space of increasing comet dust that includes many larger particles and even house sized boulders.

So, the real concern might be what this tells us about our comet dust laden atmosphere and the other things that may be hiding in the dust cloud. Also, a dusty atmosphere portends global cooling, not global warming.

 

[Third_Density_Resident]

The OMINOUS part would be the atmospheric conditions that are present that "hold" the smoke suspended.

Very good point, one which didn't occur to me. I remember reading about noctilucent clouds many years ago, and their increasing incidence is very intriguing. (To remain politically correct, scientists never forget to slip in the old "global warming" allusion!)

 

[Arne]

TV2 here in Norway are reporting that a source in the russian army have confirmed it was one of their new Bulava-missiles that missfired again. The Russian army does not want to acknowledge the failure officialy. According til TV2 this is the seventh out of twelve tests where it lost controll over its guidingsystem. It was launched from the submarine "Dmitriy Donskoy". Meteorologist Inge Johannessen are reporting that humid air with icecrystals at 8000-9000 thousand meters in the area.

_http://www.tv2nyhetene.no/utenriks/-det-var-en-mislykket-rakettutskytning-fra-ubaat-3052536.html

Beautiful application of knowledge in your theory and a probable explanation, Laura...

 

[Nautilus]

Truly intriguing. Apparently a similar phenomenon was reported in China and a video uploaded on youtube in April 09. Click here to view the video. Unfortunately it's in Mandarin so appreciate it, if any Mandarin speaking members can give a brief account of what is being discussed. But the phenomenon looks similar to what was seen in the Norway.

Another similar video, but reported in Russia around 2007.

If it's okay, I'll just type out the main points:

This incident started on August 25h 1988 at 9 p.m and happened consecutively for five days. The man interviewed was outside in his garden when he saw a flash from the north-west of the sky, the phenomenon appeared after the flash. The light rose up into the sky speedily, growing larger, then spiraled in a clock-wise direction for a brief moment. On one of the occasions the light ball was followed by a change in its spiraling movement from clockwise to anti-clockwise, disappearing shortly after.

The commentator rules out the possibility of it being the result of a nuclear explosion by Russia. This was during the time of Soviet Union disintegration and SU was undergoing the process of nuclear disarmament. He believes that out of safety and concern, and to prevent international disapproval, the missiles were dismantled and buried instead.

 

[Joe]

And where would we be without "Sorcha Faal's" imaginative take on the subject!

Numerous reports from the United States and Europe are providing firm evidence that, for the first time in our present age, mankind has made a successful ‘attack’ upon the ‘dimensions’ of the ancient gods in our human races’ age old attempt to break free from the ‘stranglehold’ many believe these beings have upon our Earth.

The numerous scientific technicalities underlying this attack are much too complex to review in a report such as this but, can basically be outlined as follows:

On Tuesday evening, December 8th, CERN's Large Hadron Collider (LHC), located in Switzerland, “smashed together subatomic particles at the highest energies ever reached by a human-made accelerator” which were then ‘quantumly’ transferred to the massive Partial Reflection Medium-Frequency (MF) Atmospheric Radar Facility located in Ramfjordmoen, Norway, operated by European Incoherent Scatter Facility (EISCAT) radar and ionospheric heating scientists who, in turn, work under the supervision of the American High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) that many call one the largest ‘weapons of mass destruction’ ever constructed.

Now upon this ‘quantumly’ transferred high-energy beam being received in Ramfjordmoen, it was then ‘pulsed’ vertically into the upper atmosphere above Norway at 2.43 MHz by their MF Radar antennas which resulted in a ‘spiral’ light display