Strange spiral light seen in north of Norway

[combsbt]

The video here - _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeZTJrCER0o of the similar thing in China appears more like what I would expect from a rocket. That is, the portion of the picture below that is on the right does. It appears to be less tightly woven and the spiral dissipates into a wider band as it gets further from the center.

However, the one on the left is only shown for the last 20 seconds of the video and has a very strange motion to it. It drifts right to left very rapidly while it rotates, and the spiral stays tight and moves along with it - it is not at all like what I would expect from a rocket. I was beginning to think with these similar occurrences that it had to be a result of spinning rockets under similar conditions, but this one from 1987 is really bizarre.

 

[agni]

I somehow find it doubtful that it was failed missile. I mean, wouldn't there be bigger stink & outrage in the media or in international arena, if Russia was firing/testing missiles so close to the city of NATO member ? Would Russia take chances by possibly having "failed/uncontrolled missile" land on NATO terriroty, me thinks not. But little I know :)

 

[Arne]

Would Russia take chances by possibly having "failed/uncontrolled missile" land on NATO terriroty, me thinks not.

I belive that the White sea has been a testingground for the russian army for years now. And they are firing northward, into the artic.

It appears to be less tightly woven and the spiral dissipates into a wider band as it gets further from the center.

It is possible that the spesial atmospheric conditions Laura mentions alows for a more tightly woven pattern.

 

[daveOS]

Yes, but I don't think that HAARP has anything to do with the atmosphere. We've been over that again and again. Ark even met with the woman who represented the group that financed the guy who wrote "Angels Don't Play This HAARP" which started the whole "HAARP is there to mess with the weather" craze. She wanted to finance Ark to write a book about crop circles that was basically disinformation. He turned her down even though the offer was more than generous.

So, knowing how that propaganda began should make us be VERY wary of ANY source that makes similar claims.

Gotcha and thanks for helping put that finally to bed for me. I used to be a tour guide in Alaska regularly traveling through that stretch of the Glenn (Tok cutoff) Highway and it's like we'd tell the tourists, "that thar is the location of the joint Air Force/Navy Research Laboratory called HAARP standing for 'High Active Auroral Research Program' studying the Aurora for advancement of science" as we'd zip by. The height of the spiral light phenomenon seems to contradict the height of the aurora. This was an event obviously more well in the atmosphere.

I've never dug into the theorists on it, but against everything out there yesterday failing answer for all phases of the Norway spiral light phenomenon and the seeming emanation of the beams from the spiral, I stumbled across that video and had to ponder it's possibilities.

Based on the power of the event as terrifyingly beautiful and shocking in it's display of power as it was reported to be, it does seem to have to originate from something more capable of guaranteeing penetrating focus in all atmospheric conditions. Some kind of planned or inadvertant reveal of some kind on the scale of nuclear bomb demonstrations of power I'd say. Lots of speculative static obscuring getting at reality of it for me. Thank you for the refinements!

 

[agni]

Would Russia take chances by possibly having "failed/uncontrolled missile" land on NATO terriroty, me thinks not.

I belive that the White sea has been a testingground for the russian army for years now. And they are firing northward, into the artic.

Sorry, I have no knowledge how missile testing works, thus speculating. They can fire Northward, but does it mean faulty missile going to fly according to aim ? Or does it run out of fuel before it possibly can reach land ?

 

[Arne]

They can fire Northward, but does it mean faulty missile going to fly according to aim ? Or does it run out of fuel before it possibly can reach land ?

I´m no rockettscientist but i think it would be lunacy to fire one of these without some backup/abort system in todays pathocratic enviroment. ISOT


Mod's note: I fixed your quote. You used the : instead of the = after the quote and before the name of the member.

 

[Arne]

I found an image take further east, in Kiruna, Sweden. The angel of the beam strengthen the White Sea origin. Had it been EISCAT in Tromsø the angel would be left to right. But it is almost the same as the pictures taken from Tromsø.
Ufo lyste upp Kiruna? (Ufo lighten up Kiruna?) _http://www.nsd.se/nyheter/artikel.aspx?ArticleId=5055966

 

[daniello]

If the rumors, that this rocket was Russian were true, I wonder how does the situation look like in Moscow. I mean, the reaction of the Russian governmental vips after the missile failure.

 

[Meager1]

Here`s an interesting "version" from Richard C. Hoagland..

"On the eve of the President of the United States, Barack Obama, receiving the Nobel Peace Prize in Oslo, Norway ... a remarkable, almost unbelievable appartition appeared over Norway's northern skies--

And no one ... really ... has a clue. The possible demonstration, on the literal eve of Obama's arrival in Oslo, of a blatantly public "Hyperdimensional/Torsion Physics technology" ... somehow, also connected to President's Obama's imminent acceptance of his Nobel Prize--

In conjunction with a carefully re-scheduled Russian missile test ....

Is this astounding apparition, in fact, a "Nobel message" to Obama ... as the most visible and currently powerful Peace Prize nominee in decades ... to alert him to the necessity of reigning in these "even more horrific 'torsion weapons of mass destruction'"--

While there's still time?

A torsion weapons technology which -- if utilized inside the Earth's electrified atmosphere -- would appear just like the mysterious "vortex appartition over Norway" ....

 

[Amedee]

I think it is necessary to reflect on several levels.

The cause of the phenomenon:
Russian missile faillure is rather probable, but under which conditions?
A self destruction, following the observation of the failure?
A voluntary destruction by another power?

Appearances of the phenomenon:
High degree of accuracy of the spiral?
Very particular colors of the rays?
The final implosion, without noise, like a simple disappearance in a hole of worm?

Why a fact which seems to be technically explainable is so prone to interrogation?
Isn't there more than the fact by itself?
Why Russian who is nevertheless of good technicians has so much failures?

Laura indicates (rightly) that many not very usual phenomena now more often occur and in areas where they never occurred in the past.
I can only put the question, because I saw one of these rare phenomena, and, I was guided to go to observe it. http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=14177.0
Isn't there some arrangement around this event?

 

[ocean59]

Hello all. I must have missed it, but I'm sure someone has mentioned the recent spiraling light seen in Norway attributed to a failed Russian missile launch? My current understanding is that initially, tens of thousands of people across Norway called in reporting a spiraling light (video link below) with a blue beam piercing it across the sky. Russia initially said their military had no involvement. The next day, Russia admits a failed missile launch. They don't say that that is what was in the sky, but that seems to be what is being reported globally anyhow.

I went to Google News, and typed in missile. I found much more recent activity than I expected!

I am not the best in "connecting the dots" but I will share what I have found in case someone else has something to add.

1. Good HD video clip of the event:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L85OkML5drQ&feature=player_embedded

2. Seemingly official explanation:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2009/12/mysterious-blue-light-near-norway-caused-by-failed-russian-missile-test/1

3. A very interesting, but perhaps disinfo filled, exopolitical take on the event:
_http://exopoliticsnews.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/norway-light-spiral-%E2%80%93-missile-failure-caused-by-ufoet-intervention/

4. Wait, another missile test this week also?? From India:
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/N-capable-missile-Dhanush-test-fired-successfully/553869
"N-capable missile Dhanush test-fired successfully"

5. Wait, ANOTHER missile launch that also failed this week?? In the U.S. even:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gUbsTrWjGldnPucsuOUepKR4An-gD9CHGK900
"Missile defense test aborted when target [missile] fails" (added comment mine)

6. Apparently the U.s. also signed a missile pact with Poland this week as well:
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5BA2Y920091211
"... makes possible deployments of a U.S. Patriot missile battery in Poland next year as part of plans to upgrade its air defences."

7. And am I the only one who finds it strange that just one week before this failed Russian missile launch, both the U.S. and Russia failed to agreed to a new missile treaty before the deadline of the expiration of the previous contract?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/world/europe/05arms.html
"...In October, the Obama administration expressed concern that if the deadline for a new pact passed and official authority for inspections lapsed, the United States would be unable to monitor the Russian nuclear stockpile."

8. Not wanting to be left out of the fun, Iran has also announced missile tests this week:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-12/13/content_12641837.htm
"Iran's Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi said Sunday that his country will test some missile products in the near future, the semi-official Fars news agency reported. "

You know, if that was all the news in the missile industry this week, maybe that would be normal. And there are several stories I chose not to include in this post (http://new.googles.com and search for missile), but maybe just maybe the following stories relate to the above? Then again, maybe not. :)

9. Lockheed Martin won a missile contract worth nearly 1 billion dollars this week. What kind of missiles you ask? Nuclear warheads shot from submarines. Wait a second...Get back to me in #10
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/12/07/daily15.html
"Lockheed Martin gets $851M Trident missile contract"

10. Wait a second. Wasn't the failed Russian launch (every article here is from the last week) ALSO designed primarily to be used as a submarine based nuclear warhead missile???
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/12/10/world/international-us-russia-missile-failure.html
"The submarine-based Bulava (Mace) missile has been billed as Russia's newest technological breakthrough to support its nuclear deterrent, but the repeated test failures are an embarrassment for the Kremlin."
"Norwegian experts reported sighting of phenomena in the atmosphere near the White Sea, where ***earlier*** Bulava rockets were fired, the Kommersant and Vedomosti newspapers reported." (emphasis mine)
""This is a catastrophe ... Huge funds were siphoned off from Russia's moribund navy for the Bulava project. In fact, billions of dollars have been flushed down the drain," Alexander Khramchikhin, chief analyst at the Moscow-based Institute of Military and Political Analysis, said."

11. In case anybody was confused about the morality of the missile industry, also in the news this week:
http://www.al.com/business/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/business/1260440113203840.xml&coll=1
"Missile exec gets 5 years in bribe case
Cantrell admits taking $1.6 million from contractors"

12. And, of course, there's the "terrorism" aspect of missiles tied into "Iran." From 3 weeks ago:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2009/11/5-charged-in-plot-to-buy-anti-aircraft-missiles-machine-guns/1
"5 charged in plot to buy anti-aircraft missiles, machine guns"
"In another terrorism case today, the FBI says it has charged five Lebanese men over an attempt to buy 100 shoulder-fired Stinger anti-aircraft missiles and 10,000 machine guns destined for Syria or Iran."

Anyhow, I stumbled across all this quite by accident, and greatly welcome any input!

Take care all,
Jason in California

PS - My wireless keyboard's batteries are dying, my apologies for any typos I may have missed.

 

[Masamune]

Hello all. I must have missed it, but I'm sure someone has mentioned the recent spiraling light seen in Norway attributed to a failed Russian missile launch?

Hi Jason Best,
There is a discussion on this spiral light here: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=15066.0 :)

 

[ocean59]

Thanks for that!

 

[Beau]

Hello all. I must have missed it, but I'm sure someone has mentioned the recent spiraling light seen in Norway attributed to a failed Russian missile launch? My current understanding is that initially, tens of thousands of people across Norway called in reporting a spiraling light (video link below) with a blue beam piercing it across the sky. Russia initially said their military had no involvement. The next day, Russia admits a failed missile launch. They don't say that that is what was in the sky, but that seems to be what is being reported globally anyhow.

I went to Google News, and typed in missile. I found much more recent activity than I expected!

I am not the best in "connecting the dots" but I will share what I have found in case someone else has something to add.

Just my opinion, but I think what you wrote is very interesting. Some curious threads you are pulling on. This would make for a good SOTT Focus piece IMO.

 

[ocean59]

To clarify - I posted the above in the SOTT article suggestion forum, before discovering this thread. Thanks for merging my post!

And Laura, I think the cloud type name you were thinking of is lenticular?

Great info about the atmospheric considerations.

Has anyone been able to find more information on the '88 China event, what the supposed cause was, or why it happened for 5 consecutive days?