Terror in Las Vegas: Mass shooting at Route91 Harvest music festival

[birk]

Not sure what to make of Orlovs article but what stood out to me was this interview he linked to: _http://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Alaskan-describes-before-and-after-of-Las-Vegas-concert-shooting--449162493.html

In my opinion it looks like it is made in a studio and then copied onto the background scene..

Not sure why you'd think that. Maybe because of the ultra high definition of the video. I also can't think of a good reason why the news corp. would do such a thing, I can't see any benefit.

It was the contrast between the persons and the background that made me react, but I accept your explanation about high definition. I am quite inept when it comes to tech. sorry for making noise.

As to any potential benefit if they were making fake eyewitness/victim interviews maybe to feed those who want to believe it was all staged and noone was killed( I am not one of those btw), I dunno, add to the chaos.

 

[Joe]

As to any potential benefit if they were making fake eyewitness/victim interviews maybe to feed those who want to believe it was all staged and noone was killed( I am not one of those btw), I dunno, add to the chaos.

If the guy is a fake eyewitness, why couldn't they interview him in the street? In the scenario that he's a fake eyewitness, does that require the backdrop be fake also? Would doing that not risk exposing the fakeness of the eyewitness by association with a fake backdrop? If you wanted to make a fake eyewitness more credible, wouldn't you put him in a real setting?

 

[birk]

As to any potential benefit if they were making fake eyewitness/victim interviews maybe to feed those who want to believe it was all staged and noone was killed( I am not one of those btw), I dunno, add to the chaos.

If the guy is a fake eyewitness, why couldn't they interview him in the street? In the scenario that he's a fake eyewitness, does that require the backdrop be fake also? Would doing that not risk exposing the fakeness of the eyewitness by association with a fake backdrop? If you wanted to make a fake eyewitness more credible, wouldn't you put him in a real setting?

Yes you are right, I rest my case( not much of a case anyway).

 

[Ca.]

From DARPAtv Published on Oct 12, 2017

What Is a Swarm? 1:50

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE-qvV13nHQ

While people often think about swarms as simply being large collections of robots, swarms, in fact, have five defining number of, characteristics:
Agent complexity,
Collective complexity,
Heterogeneity,
And human-swarm interaction.
DARPA's OFFensive Swarm-Enabled Tactics (OFFSET) program will explore these characteristics as it seeks to develop and demonstrate operationally relevant swarm tactics that could be used by groups of unmanned air and/or ground systems numbering more than 250 robots. These swarm tactics for large teams of unmanned assets would help improve force protection, firepower, precision effects, and intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) capabilities.

Added:

People Are Giving Too Much Blood After the Las Vegas Shooting, Medical Officials Say
By Kristin Hugo On 10/5/17 at 9:33 AM
_http://www.newsweek.com/people-are-giving-too-much-blood-after-las-vegas-shooting-678190
Las Vegas is in desperate need for donors thought this information would be useful to share
_https://twitter.com/6hails/status/914764866807726082
1:11 AM - 2 Oct 2017

 

[Joe]

Here's a little write up of the main problems as I see them.

Serious Problems With Official Las Vegas Massacre Narrative

 

[Joe]

Niall produced a great round up of the evidence relating specifically to the multiple reported shooting locations up the strip that night

Las Vegas Terror Attack: Clear Evidence of Multiple Shooters at Multiple Hotels

 

[Ca.]

Niall produced a great round up of the evidence relating specifically to the multiple reported shooting locations up the strip that night

Las Vegas Terror Attack: Clear Evidence of Multiple Shooters at Multiple Hotels

Here's a little write up of the main problems as I see them.

Serious Problems With Official Las Vegas Massacre Narrative

Thanks Joe, and Niall with a factual, and critical analysis needed with connecting the dots.

Meanwhile the Las Vegas Review goes into overdrive to cloud the truth and change history.

RJ reporters discuss latest on Las Vegas shooting investigation — VIDEO 11:02
_https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/rj-reporters-discuss-latest-on-las-vegas-shooting-investigation-video/

Same page

Local Las Vegas
Museums work to preserve artifacts from Las Vegas shooting memorials
_https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/local-las-vegas/museums-work-to-preserve-artifacts-from-las-vegas-shooting-memorials/

10 Route 91 shooting victims still hospitalized in Las Vegas
_https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/10-route-91-shooting-victims-still-hospitalized-in-las-vegas/

Union: MGM warned Campos about interviews after Las Vegas ...
_https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/union-mgm-warned-campos-about-interviews-after-las-vegas-shooting/

The Strip
Site of Las Vegas shooting faces a cloudy future
_https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/site-of-las-vegas-shooting-faces-a-cloudy-future/

Exam of Las Vegas shooter’s brain unlikely to unlock ‘why’

_https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/exam-of-las-vegas-shooters-brain-unlikely-to-unlock-why/

Las Vegas shooting victim’s surgeon was former neighbor (Vid)
_https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/las-vegas-shooting-victims-surgeon-was-former-neighbor/

Casinos & Gaming
Mandalay Bay Convention Center uses security metal detectors (Vid)
_https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/mandalay-bay-convention-center-uses-security-metal-detectors/

Business
New Walmart opening next month in southwest Las Vegas
_https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/union-mgm-warned-campos-about-interviews-after-las-vegas-shooting/

Funeral today for Metro officer killed in Las Vegas shooting — VIDEO
_https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/local-las-vegas/funeral-today-for-metro-officer-killed-in-las-vegas-shooting-video/

Jason Aldean’s ‘SNL’ performance lives on
_https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/jason-aldeans-snl-performance-lives-on/

Jason Aldean, who was performing at Route 91 Harvest when the Oct. 1 shooting broke out, has issued a digital version of his Oct. 7 appearance on “Saturday Night Live.” Aldean’s sang Tom Petty’s “I Won’t Back Down” to open the show. The version of the performance on iTunes costs $1.29, with proceeds going to the Direct Impact Fund’s efforts to raise money for those affected by the tragedy.

Aldean has also kept “When She Says Baby” in his set list, performing it when he resumed his concert tour on Oct. 12 in Tulsa, Okla. He was performing that song when shooting erupted on the Strip on Oct. 1.

Pride parade makes colorful statement in Las Vegas — PHOTOS
_https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/arts-culture/pride-parade-makes-colorful-statement-in-las-vegas-photos/

Come to Jesus Oct 18, 2017

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MANDALAY BAY SECURITY GUARD JESUS CAMPOS SECURITY DETAIL HAS DOJ CONNECTION
https://70news.wordpress.com/tag/troy-goff/

Troy Goff, "Campos" Sec. Guard just Happens to be ENBALMER ⚰

https://twitter.com/PeaceCrabby/status/919392394423996416

 

[Cosmos]

Is it just me, or is that poor guy, Jesus Campos (the security guard that was shot "by Paddock"), in his first and last interview pressured by the so called "journalist" to retell the official story basically against his will:

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Sure it is hard to tell from such a video, but the likelihood is there I think. Sure, it could be explained by nervousness and not being used to be such a public spectacle.

Still, I can't help to feel sorry for the guy considering what he was going through at that night and later most likely subjected to by "friendly" interrogators and handlers. Somehow he doesn't come across like somebody speaking his mind, but rather someone being pressured to tell what he was told he should tell. All in all I found Ellen DeGeneres "friendly" discussion with that poor guy very disturbing. A very "free", "not pressurized" and "not suggestive" "interview"! Disgusting. He was probably under medication from "friendly" doctors as well. Of course we don't know but the likelihood is good there as well.

I kind of feel like after watching it. If I were Campos, I would probably try to leave the country as soon as possible with my family to a place where I'm not so easily further monitored and "helped" by authorities.

 

[Joe]

Is it just me, or is that poor guy, Jesus Campos (the security guard that was shot "by Paddock"), in his first and last interview pressured by the so called "journalist" to retell the official story basically against his will:

He certainly seems stressed and very quiet, the plausible explanation for that being that he was shot in the leg 3 weeks previously, although for some reason I'm not buying that, especially given that MGM management were behind the cancelling of his interviews with major news networks and hooking him up with Ellen instead. Apparently the reason was that Ellen, as a chat show host, would not ask (or be expected to ask) any difficult questions of Campos, like the specifics of the timeline as to when he arrived on the 32 floor etc. MGM's concern being that if he "got it wrong" (or told the truth?) he might expose MGM to class action law suits from the victims of the shooting.

 

[Joe]

I would not say don't go, (with the few times I've spent there), but I would call it a place of extreme excess, and personal spiritual deception.

From food, gambling, alcohol, prostitution, and a haven of thrill seekers venues. Including stage acts, and black market drugs (any and all inclusive).

It's an atmosphere of party hearty where anything goes. With the city's motto being "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" (whispering Sin city).

With strip clubs and the psychotic vermin that patronize theses lower vibration venues.

With a massive population of congestion, and where motor pollution abounds. A great place to alter one's DNA. With still latent amounts of Nuclear dust from the cold war days of the 1950s. Just 65 miles away.

Lots of electromagnetic activity and cameras are every where. Thus to monitor all activity's of a transit population of more than 3,562,935 visitors as of August 31 2017. {1} And local population of over 2 million Vegas metropolitan proper. {2}

If your interested with traveling there for research, you learn lot about observing the continued slow motion decline and crash of this civilization.

It's a town without repent. Cheaters, hustlers, cons, liars, and thieves wearing wingtip shoes, and or Niki's. A psychopaths paradise galore.

To put it bluntly, it's a S$%t-hole, IMHO.

Just wanted to say, for posterity, that I very much enjoyed this description c.a.!

 

[Ca.]

Just wanted to say, for posterity, that I very much enjoyed this description c.a.!

Thanks Joe! One other thought that came to mind was that the Las Vegas environment does indeed block cognizance. I've found it is the place to ignore the 7 deadly sin's.

7 Deadly Sins Made Heavenly in Sin City
Last updated: September 28, 2016
_http://blog.caesars.com/las-vegas/things-to-do/7-deadly-sins-sin-city-las-vegas/

 

[Josi]

This video really raised my eyebrows!


Ed Rusiackas
Published on Oct 11, 2017 There was some interesting details in the taxi driver footage of the shooting that I noticed and did not see in anyone else's analysis.

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Jason Goodman from Crowdsource the News went to the Mandalay Bay parking garage

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[A Jay]

This video really raised my eyebrows!

It's hard to get a real fix on what is being seen. At first I thought it was a reflection coming off the side of the car, but then it looked like it was a light being shone on the ground behind the car. I'm still not certain of the source, but it doesn't appear to be a direct reflection of muzzle flashes.

Also, the flashes do not synchronize with the sound of gunshots as one would expect if the shooter was indeed a stone's throw away as is being suggested, and the video has flashes going after the sound of gunshots stop.

It actually reminds me of the strobe light that can be seen in other videos of the shooting.

Here's the original cab video shared earlier in this thread in case anyone wants to compare:

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edit: clarification

 

[Cosmos]

This video really raised my eyebrows!

It's hard to get a real fix on what is being seen. At first I thought it was a reflection coming off the side of the car, but then it looked like it was a light being shone on the ground behind the car. I'm still not certain of the source, but it doesn't appear to be a direct reflection of muzzle flashes.

Also, the flashes do not synchronize with the sound of gunshots as one would expect if the shooter was indeed a stone's throw away as is being suggested, and the video has flashes going after the sound of gunshots stop.

It actually reminds me of the strobe light that can be seen in other videos of the shooting.

Here's the original cab video shared earlier in this thread in case anyone wants to compare:

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edit: clarification

The flashes you see can be anything and they indeed don't match up with the sound sequence of the shooting. The right part of the flashes we can see, could be a reflection on the car of the woman of the flashes on the left. The left flashes could either be the source of the flashes, or themself a reflection on the asphalt (or somewhere else) from the source of the flashes. Where that source is, and what it is, is hard, if not impossible, to tell, but it could be above the flash you see "on the asphalt". In the first milliseconds the "flash" seems to move (is somewhat behind the car and then moves) as well as in the last milliseconds moving out of the mirror field to the left. You can slow the video down to 0,25 frames per second to see it. That could either be explained by the taxi car moving and/or the flash moving and/or the woman moving the camera. The "flash" could also be explained by a reflection in the camera lens itself or the window of the car itself. In short, unfortunately it doesn't proof a lot and could likely be something else.

What I find a interesting line of thought though, is the loudness of the shooting recorded by the taxi woman. It could indeed be that she was fairly close to one of the shooters. His speculation that those two places would be a good point for a shooter to shoot and escape from, does sound like a reasonable speculation IMO, but it isn't more then a speculation. Unfortunately, I think we can't derive from the video much more then those speculations at this point.

 

[Ca.]

Witness to Shooting at Planet Hollywood - Las Vega (24:40)
Oct 21, 2017

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OroraMonroe heard shooting right outside Planet Hollywood in Las Vegas. She is certain that there were multiple gunmen on the night of the infamous #1October Las Vegas Shooting massacre. This video also includes some information from 2015 about Sheriff Lombardo's past concern over the likelihood of a "lone gunmen" domestic terrorist attacking Las Vegas. The LVMPD had lost substantial funding from Homeland Security because there wasn't a sufficient "need" for federal funding for terrorism in Vegas. At least, that's the official story.