Terror in Las Vegas: Mass shooting at Route91 Harvest music festival

angelburst29 said:
goyacobol said:
I don't want to speak for Joe but here are some of his thoughts:

_https://www.facebook.com/JoeQuinnSOTT/posts/10155581338808820
Vegas shooting. Shooter firing automatic weapon, multiple 5-10 second bursts from 32 floor of hotel located 400 meters away into dense crowd. 50+ dead. 200+ injured

Immediate reports on social media of multiple shooters, first police report claims only one shooter.
Anyone with gun experience, is this a likely result considering distance? I would have thought that 'spraying' of bullets from such a distance would have lead to mostly injuries. 50 dead sounds more like highly accurate sniper fire.

_https://www.facebook.com/JoeQuinnSOTT/posts/10155581401778820
Interesting coincidence how some of the mass shooting events happen immediately after other big stories that are then pushed off the front pages.

I get the feeling that the only connection Paddock had in this shooting was he was occupying a room that had been pre-selected by the gun men? Paddock was probably dead - before the shooting started?

As for other news reports being buried due to this massive shooting, the Benghazi trial began today and the real architect behind that massacre
is now pushing for gun control???

A Washington, DC, court has initiated the trial of Ahmed Abu Khattala, a Libyan national who US authorities allege orchestrated the lethal attacks on US facilities in Benghazi, Libya, in 2011.

Trial Against Accused Architect of Benghazi Attack Begins
https://sputniknews.com/us/201710031057888958-trial-against-accused-benghazi-attack/

The trial, expected to last five weeks, kicked off on Monday with Khattala’s attorney denying that his client was guilty of all charges alleged by US prosecutors. Khattala, 46, faces 18 counts of criminal wrongdoing, including murder. The September 11, 2012, attack in question led to the deaths of US Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens, State Department official Sean Smith and two former US Navy SEALs working as security officers at a CIA compound near the US embassy in Benghazi: Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

I think you are exactly right angelburst29. Probably many or most of the alleged false-flage attackers were just patsies for the real perpetrators. Paddock was just booked in the wrong room at the wrong time. And how convenient the timing always seems to be. Benghazi will be just an after thought if even that. It gets more and more difficult to watch them get away with all the lies time after time.
 
Daf said:
m said:

By the sound of it, It seems that many weapons are used at once... Hence a lone shooter is unlikely.

While many of us would question a "lone" shooter. Having a good ear while listening to a video would probably not stand up in court so to speak. Automatic rife fire from the distance of the hotel would be difficult to pin point for location and the nature of the rapid fire would make it difficult to hear multiple vs single weapon shooters I would think, especially just hearing a video recording.

There could also have been other shooters with silencers. I suppose that would make it even more difficult to place their shooting location. FWIW
 
Has to have been at least two shooters. Can hear the distance between their positions in this video:

https://www.facebook.com/cori.langdon/videos/10212157422804893/

She also comments on how calm everyone is even though there's AR fire and shows some folks just milling about at the entrance to the hotel like it's a nice night out. That stood out.
 
The Times of Israel has it dialed in with their headline:

_https://www.timesofisrael.com/las-vegas-shooter-was-son-of-bank-robbing-fraudster-wanted-by-fbi/

Las Vegas shooter was heavy gambler, son of ‘psychopath’ bank-robber

Details emerge about Stephen Paddock, retired accountant who killed 58; brother says he was 'not a normal guy'

Did his brother not say he was a normal guy? Interesting the twist as the Times of Israel is likely referring to father Benjamin.

Most of the article seems a repeat of what has been discussed. Their October 3rd page is focused on gun control:

Jewish groups call for tougher gun control laws in aftermath of Las Vegas attack

'There is no acceptable, reasonable need for civilians to have access to large rounds of ammunition,' says one group after mass shooting claims at least 59 lives...
[...]
Greenblatt said the group’s Center on Extremism is investigating the background and activity of shooter Stephen Paddock and whether he may have ties to extremists or was motivated by any extremist ideology.

[...]
“Federal lawmakers must act now to restrict access to automatic weapons, reject the current bill before Congress that would make it easier to buy silencers, and instead focus on how to make our communities and our country safer. NCJW expects nothing less from our elected officials,” the statement also said.

Unrelated, yet as part of new bills in the news and listed on the same web page cites:

French MPs to vote on tough anti-terror law

Bill is designed to bring to an end two-year state of emergency, but critics fear it marks an erosion of civil freedoms

PARIS, France — French lawmakers will vote Tuesday on a tough new counter-terrorism law designed to end the country’s two-year state of emergency, though critics say it will expand police powers at a cost to civil liberties.

The vote follows a string of attacks in France since 2015 and comes just two days after more bloodshed, in the southern port city of Marseille when a suspected Islamist knifeman killed two women.

There are probably a great deal of legislative bills before governments, and these events do indeed drive home the adoptive message to those in the House voting.
 
Puck said:
Has to have been at least two shooters. Can hear the distance between their positions in this video:

https://www.facebook.com/cori.langdon/videos/10212157422804893/

She also comments on how calm everyone is even though there's AR fire and shows some folks just milling about at the entrance to the hotel like it's a nice night out. That stood out.

That video has been taken down. Here it is again https://www.facebook.com/JUICYFACE/videos/1516663145045929/

It sounds like gun fire from multiple locations to me.
 
Beorn said:
Puck said:
Has to have been at least two shooters. Can hear the distance between their positions in this video:

https://www.facebook.com/cori.langdon/videos/10212157422804893/

She also comments on how calm everyone is even though there's AR fire and shows some folks just milling about at the entrance to the hotel like it's a nice night out. That stood out.

That video has been taken down. Here it is again https://www.facebook.com/JUICYFACE/videos/1516663145045929/

It sounds like gun fire from multiple locations to me.

Ok, the new link was immediately taken down again...
 
Puck said:
Has to have been at least two shooters. Can hear the distance between their positions in this video:

https://www.facebook.com/cori.langdon/videos/10212157422804893/

She also comments on how calm everyone is even though there's AR fire and shows some folks just milling about at the entrance to the hotel like it's a nice night out. That stood out.

I couldn't view it since it asks for a sign-in. Maybe I did something wrong? I am not on Facebook.
 
Las Vegas Mass Shooting Full Scanner Audio of Police Response (1:27:03)
Published on Oct 2, 2017 Broadcastify
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpMrm1xUJ40
All credit to this recording goes to broadcastify. Only reuploading this to help more people be able to listen to what exactly took place. Listener discretion is advised

M249 light
_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M249_light_machine_gun#Variants
M249 Special Purpose Weapon
This lightweight and shorter version of the M249 is designed to meet USSOCOM special operations forces requirements. The barrel changing handle, magazine insertion well, and vehicle mounting lug all have been removed to reduce weight. As a result, the SPW cannot be mounted in vehicles or use M16 magazines. Picatinny rails were added to the feed cover and forearm for the mounting of optics, lasers, vertical foregrips, and other M4 SOPMOD kit accessories. The SPW has a detachable bipod. The SPW's lightweight barrel is longer than that of the Para model, giving it a total length of 908 mm (36 in) and a weight of 5.7 kg (13 lb).[31]

USSOCOM
United States Special Operations Command
_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Special_Operations_Command
USSOCOM conducts several covert and clandestine missions, such as direct action, special reconnaissance, counter-terrorism, foreign internal defense, unconventional warfare, psychological warfare, civil affairs, and counter-narcotics operations. Each branch has a Special Operations Command that is unique and capable of running its own operations, but when the different special operations forces need to work together for an operation, USSOCOM becomes the joint component command of the operation, instead of a SOC of a specific branch.[7]

Joe Napoli Mandalay Bay Shooting Survivor
Jason Goodman
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qHt_UMmq2I
Streamed live 6 hours ago
Joe Napoli and his wife were attending the concert at Mandalay Bay Hotel in Las Vegas when automatic weapon fire broke out. Joe and his wife are safe after an hours long ordeal.
 
I bet the number of victims will reach 666 in the next few day :evil:
''they'' love their number games
 
http://realfarmacy.com/5-things-las-vegas-shooting/

Five Things That Don’t Add up About the Las Vegas Shooting

Although the news reporting on this shooting is still in its early stages, there are five strange things that just don’t add up about this massacre (so far). I run through them below.


#1) Dozens of concert-goers reported the presence of multiple shooters

Although law enforcement says there was only one shooter, multiple witnesses are openly reporting the presence of multiple shooters. This could reasonably be the result of confusion and chaos, but it’s also highly suspicious that the shooter had “full auto” weapon which is usually limited to law enforcement or military personnel.

This question about multiple shooters was also raised after the Aurora, Colorado “Batman movie theater” shooting, in which numerous witnesses reported the presence of multiple shooters.

If this shooting was carried out by multiple shooters, it would obviously indicate planning and coordination among a group of people who sought to carry out the shooting for a political purpose of some kind.


#2) Who warned concert-goers they were “all going to die” a full 45 minutes before the shooting started?

Via the UK Express:

One woman, who was at the Route 91 music event, claimed an unidentified woman had told other concert-goers they were “all going to die” after pushing her way to the front of the venue.

The witness, 21, told local news: “She had been messing with a lady in front of her and telling her she was going to die, that we were all going to die.

“They escorted her out to make her stop messing around with all the other people, but none of us knew it was going to be serious.”

She described the lady as Hispanic. The lady was escorted from the venue along with a man.

The unnamed witness, who was attending the event on her 21st birthday, described the pair as short, both around 5 ft 5ins to 5ft 6ins tall, and looked like “everyday people”.

It’s clear that neither of these two people were the shooter, as the shooter is a much taller Caucasian man. Thus, this is not a “lone gunman” massacre. There was coordination. At least three people were aware this shooting was about to take place.


#3) The weapon you hear on videos was FULL AUTO, which is almost impossible to acquire through legal means

The multitude of videos that captured the event clearly indicate that at least one shooter was running a full auto weapons system. Such weapons are almost impossible for “civilians” to acquire. Although some pre-1986 full auto weapons are available for sale, they require extensive ATF documentation, background checks and extremely long wait periods approaching one year. Plus, they tend to cost $25,000 or more, and they’re extremely rare.

Full auto weapons, however, are widely owned by police officers, federal officials and military organizations. It will be very interesting to find out where this weapon came from and how it was acquired.


#4) Why were the exits blocked, trapping victims like rats in a maze?

Numerous reports from witnesses who were on the scene reveal that nearly all the exits were blocked. One witness described the situation as “being caught like a rate in a maze” with numerous “dead ends.”

Why were nearly all the exits blocked? In essence, the concert created a kill zone that amplified the casualties. So far, according to the Clark County Sheriff in Vegas, 515 people have been injured and 59 people have so far died. These are unthinkable numbers, approaching war-time casualty counts. It’s clear from the coverage that this shockingly high body count would not have been possible if people had been free to flee the concert venue.

In essence, the concert trapped the people, preventing them from escaping, and denying them the ability to seek cover. From there, sustained, full-auto gunfire is almost impossible to survive.

In addition, once the shooting started, the stage lights were turned to the crowd, lighting up the crowd and making them an easier target for the shooter(s). Was this deliberate?


#5) Why did the shooter have as many as 10 firearms in his room?

According to news reports, the shooter — identified as Stephen Paddock — had as many as 10 firearms in his room, including several rifles. If he was the only shooter, what’s the point of having so many rifles? One man can obviously only shoot one rifle, and since he had a full auto rifle, he could obviously achieve his evil aims by focusing on his one rifle. There was no need for him to have multiple rifles.

So were the other rifles brought to the room to “stage” the crime scene with an abundance of guns? Why would one elderly man bother to carry 8 – 10 weapons to a hotel room in the first place? That’s a lot of work. Rifles aren’t lightweight devices.

I find the idea that a lone, elderly man would carry so many rifles to a hotel room for no practical reason to be highly suspicious. It makes no sense at all.


ONE MORE QUESTION: Why is ISIS claiming responsibility for the Las Vegas massacre?

Via Reuters:

Islamic State has claimed responsibility for a shooting that killed at least 50 people and wounded over 400 in Las Vegas early on Monday, and said the attacker had converted to Islam a few months ago.

“The Las Vegas attack was carried out by a soldier of the Islamic State and he carried it out in response to calls to target states of the coalition,” the group’s news agency Amaq said in reference to the U.S.-led coalition fighting the group in the Middle East.

“The Las Vegas attacker converted to Islam a few months ago,” Amaq added. (Reporting by Ali Abdelaty; Writing by Arwa Gaballa; Editing by Ahmed Aboulenein)
 
A 9.25 audio clip from The Michael Savage Show, in which the caller says they were his neighbor for some months and that he didn't do it. |
I did consider that perhaps the 'shooter' was a psychopath and wearing a mask of sanity, but I've not heard anything so far to set off any red flags.
_https://michaelsavage.com/2017/10/02/audio-neighbor-of-shooter-tells-savage-he-did-not-do-it/
 
Puck said:
Has to have been at least two shooters. Can hear the distance between their positions in this video:

https://www.facebook.com/cori.langdon/videos/10212157422804893/

She also comments on how calm everyone is even though there's AR fire and shows some folks just milling about at the entrance to the hotel like it's a nice night out. That stood out.

FB censored that one. Could you find it for us on YT?
 
Puck said:
Has to have been at least two shooters. Can hear the distance between their positions in this video:

https://www.facebook.com/cori.langdon/videos/10212157422804893/

She also comments on how calm everyone is even though there's AR fire and shows some folks just milling about at the entrance to the hotel like it's a nice night out. That stood out.

You can clearly hear the shooting from multiple locations. And on top of that, you can see that (some of) the shots come from the 4th(?) floor window (about the 5 minutes into the video), directly countering the official narrative!
 
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