StrangeCaptain
Jedi Council Member
David Topi said:About astral travel, thanks for the advice but it is something I regard as normal, does not generate any fear and it is an "ability" that anyone do have or can get if you just work on it. My main difficulty is controlling the conscious exit of the body, as this is a part I am particularly interested in, so to have a fully controlled projection.
I do not see any of those as reasons to do something. I had no fear of drinking alcohol when I was abusing it. I may have had a fear of living life and interacting with others, but I had no fear of alcohol itself. I also have a lot of potential abilities. Which of those should I explore and why? Just having the potential does not mean I should develop it.
David Topi said:In any case, thanks for the concerns, I believe it is a great tool for exploration in parallel with a fully personal and spiritual development within the 3D parameters, so it can be combined. I do not believe there is any other "way" to explore the unknown but go a see it for yourself (I maybe wrong, and nobody says it is easy, but ok, it is part of my own growth I guess).
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Why do you believe it is such a great tool? Simple curiousity or maybe you read it in a book or maybe you met someone who was influential in your life for whom it was a great tool? Where does this belief that this is a useful tool come from?
Everyone I have met who considered out-of-body experiences or lucid dreaming as a primary goal in their lives was either crazy as a loon or at least had serious problems keeping up the quality of their everyday life. I have met people who as a consequence of their journey of personal development had some experiences with OOBEs who I have a great deal of respect and admiration for.
I was quite into the idea of lucid dreaming and had got to the point where I had them often. I could fly around in my dreams, isolate objects and use them to enter into new dreams, and have really odd conversations with the people I met in those dreams. It was better than television, but none of it helped me one bit in being useful to other human beings or being comfortable in my own skin for that matter. I was still crazy as a loon. It took some pretty big shocks to let go of that fixation on lucid dreaming and a lot of the other baggage that went with it. For one thing, I felt really special about being able to enter a lucid dreaming state more and more often. It was a great way to forget about everything I really needed to be doing to grow.
It sounds like you have made up your mind, but I would feel negligent towards others reading these threads if I did not put these warnings out there. Again, if nothing else, read "Amazing Grace" before you conduct your experiments. If you think you are ready for the things that live in those realms (if they are indeed anything other than our own internal ghosts), then you are probably their lunch.