I finished reading "You Don't Know Me" and believe the title for it was perfect.
I thought Nikita was an excellent representation of a true psychopath. I liked how the author built upon the manipulations and tactics of this character throughout the book, until you finally got a full picture of just how evil he was. Watching Tasha and Baba come to terms with this and realizing he was incapable of loving them was heartbreaking. The Mama said it so appropriately when she told Tasha "There is no other way to say this. Your father is a psychopath. Asking him to love you is like asking a plate or a table to love you. In fact, it would be unfair even to ask it of him because he can't do it. He is incapable of love. There is no one he truly loves other than himself. You and your Baba are around only because it suits him. If it didn't he would have no hesitation to get rid of either of you."
Great information in this thread, thanks for making it. I finished the first 3 books and I did not really enjoy them, but it gave me a lot to think about. I realized I have avoided the whole 'conspiracy theory' world for awhile now. Whenever I hear things about satanist bankers or similar I'm quick to dismiss it as noise and very slow to consider it, even though I'm certain events like that take place. Gods of Eden and the Wave are the only books I've read close to this subject. It seems to me that most books around this subject are written by loonies that use their knowledge from their 20 previous lives as the sole proof to their claims. This highlighted for me the need to stop assuming everything is disinfo and start paying more attention to what's going on at the tippy top.
Also, I realized I dismissed all the quorum types as psychopaths, or simply evil, which is an easy and ignorant line of black and white thinking. The likelihood that even those in the thick of it could be functioning humans like the rest of us but were molded from birth into psychopathic behavior isn't something that really crossed my mind. On one had it's sad to see such events taking place, but on the other it's enlightening to know that even they still have a choice, that they can still choose love (however difficult the choice). It 'humanizes' evil in that sense, to get a better understanding of how other humans can behave that way.
And the ongoing discussions about what evil and good really are, in relation to yin and yang gives one a lot to ponder. It reminds me of Plato thinking that evil is a result of ignorance. That doesn't mean it should be looked at in a negative way, but understanding that they could be behaving in an evil manner because they feel it is for a greater good. We can hope that if they knew the full impact of their decisions on others, then they would not perform those actions.
The books are incredible in how they tell the tale that Love can even sway or heal a fully-conditioned global banker. He doesn't grow a beard, don some tie-die and move out into the sticks, but has to stick with what he's got, and does so willingly, to use his power to protect his family. I found that a good realistic touch to a pretty outrageous twist in Blake's life.
It makes one wonder - if the author is channeling in some way, is this kinda thing even a remote possibility in real life? That certain Souls made the choice to arrive here in the genetic lines of the PTB, and that they have some latent Soul potential that will be activated by The Wave?
AI wrote: There are more (e.g. "art collections, palaces, wine properties, yacht racing, luxury hotels"), but that one quote is enough to show that the Barringtons are a stand-in for the Rothschilds.
I think you're right. Another circumstantial evidence that suggests that Barrington might be an alias for Rothschild is in "Owned" (22% in the Kindle edition) where Le Carré writes the following about an author who wanted to write about the Barringtons:
It was relatively easy to spot the lies, but it has proved impossible to find the truth
A few paragraphs later Le Carré mentions that the Barringtons are the largest investors in De Beers, and indeed the Rothschild were the funders of Cecil Rodhes, founder of De Beers:
On September 1,1870, British-born colonialist Cecil Rhodes first set foot on African soiL Financed by N M Rothschild & Sons, Rhodes succeeded over the next 17years in buying up aIl the smaller diamond mining operations in the Kimberley area. On Mareh 13, 1888, Rhodes and his partner CD Rudd launched De Beers Consolidated Mines. His monopoly of the world's diamond supply was sealed in 1889 through a strategie partnership with the London-based Diamond Syndicate. By the time Rhodes died in 1902, De Beers controlled 90% of the world's diamond production. (Source)
With the analysis and intelligent discussion happening here I now feel comfortable to start on these books. I now want to be more aware of what’s going on in the world.
Just finishing the latest release from Mary Balogh in the Westcott series and will start.
I read the first three books of the Billionaire Banker Series, and something that called my attention was that Billie was an important character in Lana's life, but every single piece of advice she gave was counter-productive; so much that, every time she "helped" Lana by offering suggestions, I thought, "Oh, no... this is going to backfire!" I am sure that this has some significance, is it that people who do not have knowledge are prone to give ill advice-- unintentionally? I was worried a couple of times when the baby was left with her and wondered if she would be targeted--anyone could have taken the baby- Maybe she was innocent about everything and as it was stated before "when you are innocent, they cannot touch you."?
Regarding the sex scenes, I didn't think they were that racy. In fact, the ones in The Madness of Lord Ian McKenzie and The Beast of Bedwick were a lot more risqué. I think that the setting has a lot to do with my perception of it. I the Billionaire Banker Series I expected to read about a woman facing sex quite openly because of the time period, but in the other two series, I thought that what the female characters were doing was scandalous. Yet, most of the sex scenes in the Billionaire Banker were justifiable, it was about facing traumas during these intimate moments, but also, about amalgamating their souls. I still have to understand the chapter about sex in The Wave series, I still do not get it. Was it the reason for our fall or is there something sacred in it? I know that the bad use of sexual energy is atrocious for our development, but it all sounded like there was a positive, especial, I-don't-know-what that kept the gods awake. Anyways, if you have any idea about this topic, I'd like to hear it because there might be something to it depicted in these books.
I just got books #4 and #5, and I'm looking forward to reading them.
I finished all the way up to 'Love's Sacrifice', so that would be the whole Lana & Blake story, I believe. I haven't read the whole thread though, so forgive me if I make 'outdated' observations. There are some very interesting insights in the books about the psychology of the elites and some philosophical/esoteric meaning of the struggle of good and evil, which I very much appreciate - especially towards the end of 'Love's Sacrifice'. Obviously, as an author you do need to have a genuine interest in these topics in order to be able to explain them in some depth to the reader.
In particular, I am referring to the idea that even the bad guys understand the need for a certain minimal balance between good and evil on this planet, which is something the Cs have indicated in the past too. They can't just squash the other side completely, because then the choice would be cancelled. While they can trick or intimidate people into choosing the dark side, they can't totally coerce them, according to their own religion. The books don't mention a further reason beyond that one, but the Cs did hint that karma would fall hard on the 'bad guys' if free will was totally violated, and/or that a lack of balance on the planet would provoke a violent reaction from the Universe - as in cancelling this planet altogether with a few comets for turning out to be useless.
As for the psychology of the elites, they are portrayed very similarly to how I imagine them to be: narcissistic, always calculating for their own benefit, with completely disfunctional and damaged family relations, but masquerading as decent, and thinking they are way smarter and special than they really are. In short, sociopathic or psychopathic.
One more observation. At some point in the last book, it is said that their god El manifests in their dreams as an animal or bird with glowing red eyes, seeking to possess them, which they should allow. Blake himself has had recurring dreams of a horse with red eyes that chases him. I connected this with the sculpture of the blue mustang with red eyes that is at the entrance of the Denver International Airport. According to the Cs, that airport (and others) not only is a cover for an underground base, but has several occult symbols, courtesy of the elite. Could it be that the thing about the animal with red eyes is in fact part of the occult religion of the elites that the author somehow found about and not just part of her imagination?
I didn't care much for the sex scenes. Very soon they turned from 'racy' into tedious and at some point in the 2nd book where they had like four chapters in a row of pure sex, I found myself thinking 'ok, I get it that they had wild sex - can we proceed with the story please?' Well, I was warned that I should just skip all that, but I've always had the feeling that if I don't read the whole thing I may be missing something important or that I didn't actually read the book.
Anyway, moving on to the rest of the books, which I'm told are good. I do find them very interesting so far, although for very different reasons than the regency romance novels!
I think the highest rulers on earth wouldn't want to dirty their hands and karma. It's the ones below them who would do their dirty bidding and be ignorant of the karmic repercussions.
I think the highest rulers on earth wouldn't want to dirty their hands and karma. It's the ones below them who would do their dirty bidding and be ignorant of the karmic repercussions.
On the basis of Michael Topper's Precis on Good and Evil, I think you have it backwards - the highest rulers on the earth want to dirty their hands and karma. They get others to do their bidding, yes - I can agree with you on that. But they don't do so to try to remain karmically clean. They do so in order to recruit Souls into a multidimensional food pyramid whose primary nutrients is suffering. It's like any pyramid scheme - the more you recruit (manipulate, torture, pervert), the more you've proven your potential for evil, the more power and authority you are trusted with. And these novels are clear that a seat in the higher echelons of earthly power is bought with the blood of innocent children. And then some.
I'm curious why you think the highest rulers wouldn't want to dirty their hands and karma? What purpose would that serve for a pyschopath? Are you trying to say that they desire a clean public image so that they can continue to rape and pillage and sow evil in the world?
On the basis of Michael Topper's Precis on Good and Evil, I think you have it backwards - the highest rulers on the earth want to dirty their hands and karma. They get others to do their bidding, yes - I can agree with you on that. But they don't do so to try to remain karmically clean. They do so in order to recruit Souls into a multidimensional food pyramid whose primary nutrients is suffering. It's like any pyramid scheme - the more you recruit (manipulate, torture, pervert), the more you've proven your potential for evil, the more power and authority you are trusted with. And these novels are clear that a seat in the higher echelons of earthly power is bought with the blood of innocent children. And then some.
I'm curious why you think the highest rulers wouldn't want to dirty their hands and karma? What purpose would that serve for a pyschopath? Are you trying to say that they desire a clean public image so that they can continue to rape and pillage and sow evil in the world?
Hello, iamthatis!
I was thinking the same, those people are psychopaths and they do not care about karma. Even if others do their dirty work, karma would not skip them, they are the intellectual criminals anyways. I think that these rulers just have so much time in their hands, so many unlimited resources that they just give into crimes because they seriously believe that they can go on without punishment--and this might be true on the surface, maybe they just feel owners of worlds and destiny. It's a serious mental issue. I am currently reading Love's Sacrifice, and I just read a part that talks about people having limitless money and all of their time to do whatever they want and I caught myself thinking "I'd go nuts." Is that one way people become psychopaths? I am sure this has been discussed in the forum, but I haven't read all of it.
This is my honest assessment so far - I've read the first three books in the Billionaire Banker series and have covered more than 60% of the fourth book. There are too many raunchy activities and too little anything else of substance. The second book started to get interesting towards the 80% mark. The third book was a waste of time - more geared towards the regular readers of the author's work. And I'm almost feeling like giving up reading the fourth.
There is an undertone of dark secrets and evil puppet masters throughout the series but honestly it is quite difficult to read through all the pornographic descriptions of the fantasies and exploits of the characters. I wish there was some way to skip all this and get straight to the point faster in fewer pages. Hopefully there's something worthwhile in the last 1.5 books.
There is an undertone of dark secrets and evil puppet masters throughout the series but honestly it is quite difficult to read through all the pornographic descriptions of the fantasies and exploits of the characters. I wish there was some way to skip all this and get straight to the point faster in fewer pages. Hopefully there's something worthwhile in the last 1.5 books.
Yeah, the 3 first book are indeed full of eye rolling moments and skipping, but in the later books, even if there are still pornographic descriptions, their frequency or "verbosity" are less than in the first 3.
It's also possible that the descriptions in later books are less jarring when it is possible to recognize the mutual affection and respect similar to romance novels. The language and descriptions are stronger even than in Scarlett Scott's books, but at least the same pattern of "growing love that ends in marriage" is present.
Also, the author gradually ties everything together, with The Russian Billionaire being the most interesting and plot progressing. Well, at least so far. I finished it earlier today.
I also find it interesting and fascinating how the author shows an understanding of psychopathy, including descriptions of demonic/hyperdimentional influences. Add to this the transhumanism agenda and AI, and we are indeed dealing with something akin to "Ghost in the machine".
Does anyone find it interesting that Lana is Iranian? And the positive representation of Russians in "The Russian Billionaire"?
I've been thinking about the abundance of sex scenes, most of which occur in the early parts of each book. I think that might be to draw the reader in and get them in the right state of mind so that the lessons about the reality can then slip in under the radar. Sort of like using their own weapons against them.
I remember Blake stating that his couldn’t locate Lana because there was no centralized bank in Iran. This offered a good cover for her to be able to hide from him for a year. A place that even an Elites tentacles couldn’t reach. Is that possible? They have been in the crosshairs of the cult to be bombed back to the Stone Age.
Hello, iamthatis!
I was thinking the same, those people are psychopaths and they do not care about karma. Even if others do their dirty work, karma would not skip them, they are the intellectual criminals anyways. I think that these rulers just have so much time in their hands, so many unlimited resources that they just give into crimes because they seriously believe that they can go on without punishment--and this might be true on the surface, maybe they just feel owners of worlds and destiny. It's a serious mental issue. I am currently reading Love's Sacrifice, and I just read a part that talks about people having limitless money and all of their time to do whatever they want and I caught myself thinking "I'd go nuts." Is that one way people become psychopaths? I am sure this has been discussed in the forum, but I haven't read all of it.
In order to answer your question, I think it makes sense to quote at length the analysis of rage by Peter Levine. This section about rape victims can be a lens to understand both Victoria and Blake, and psychopathic training.
Rage Turned Against the Self
With humans, the impulse toward violent aggression may become terrifying in itself and is then turned against the self, as Kahlbaum so presciently observed in his seminal work on catatonia. This turning inward (or "retroflection") results in further paralysis, suppression, passivity and resignation. The flipping between shutdown and outbursts of "impotent" and misdirected rage becomes the individual's stereotypic reaction to later challenges that require much more nuanced and subtly differentiated feeling-based responses.
In my accident (see Chapter 1), as I came out of shock, I experienced "a rolling wave of fiery rage" as my body continued its shaking and trembling; then I felt a "burning red fury" erupting "from deep within my belly" I really wanted to kill the girl who'd hit me, and I thought, How could that stupid kid hit me in a crosswalk? Wasn't she paying any attention? Damn her! I wanted to kill her, and it felt like I could have. Because rage is about wanting to kill, it is not hard to understand how frightening this urge can be; and how the rage could turn to fear as a way of preventing such murderous impulses.
By allowing my body to do what it needed to do - by not stopping the shaking while tracking my inner body sensations - I was able to allow and contain the extreme survival emotions of rage and terror without becoming overwhelmed. Containment, it must be understood, is NOT suppression; it is rather building a larger, more resilient vessel to hold these difficult affects. And mercifully, this way, I came through the accident's aftermath unscathed by trauma and more resilient to future challenge.
As people revisit, move through and then move out of immobility in therapy, they frequently experience some rage. These primal sensations of fury (when contained) represent movements back into life. However, rage and other intense body sensations can be frightening if they occur abruptly. In effective therapy, the therapist supports and carefully guides the client through this powerful process. Guidance should be done slowly, by using a graduated approach so that the client is not overwhelmed.
Ultimately, rage is (biologically) about the urge to kill. When some women who have been raped begin to come out of shock (frequently months or even years later) they may have the impulse to kill their assailants. Occasionally, they have had the opportunity to carry out this impulse in action. Some of these women have been tried and sentenced for murder because the time elapsed was viewed as evidence of premeditation. Injustices have most certainly occurred due to general ignorance of the biological drama those women were playing out. A number of these women may have been acting upon the profound (and delayed) self-protective responses of rage and counterattack that they experienced as they came out of agitated immobility; and thus their reprisal (though much delayed) may have been biologically motivated, and not necessarily premeditated revenge, despite the outward appearance. These killings might have been prevented if effective treatment for the traumatized women had been available at the time.
In contrast, non-traumatized individuals who feel angry are well aware that (as much as they may "feel like murdering" even a spouse or their children) they obviously wouldn't actually try to kill the object of their anger. As traumatized individuals begin to come out of immobility they frequently experience eruptions of intense anger or rage. But fearing that they may actually hurt others (or themselves), they exert a tremendous effort to deflect and suppress that rage, almost before they feel it.
When one is flooded by rage, the frontal parts of the brain "shut down." Because of this extreme imbalance, the capacity to stand back and observe one's sensations and emotions is lost; rather, one becomes those emotions and sensations.
Hence, the rage can become utterly overwhelming, causing panic and the stifling of such primitive impulses, turning them inward and preventing a natural exit from the immobility reaction. Maintaining this suppression requires a tremendous expenditure of energy. One is, essentially, doing to oneself what experimenters have done to animals to reinforce and protract their immobilization. Traumatized individuals repeatedly frighten themselves as they begin to come our of immobility. The "fear-potentiated immobility" is maintained from within. The vicious cycle of intense sensation/rage/fear locks a person in the biological trauma response. A traumatized individual is literally imprisoned, repeatedly frightened and restrained – by his or her own persistent physiological reactions and by fear of those reactions and emotions. This vicious cycle of fear and immobility (a.k.a. fear-potentiated immobility) prevents the response from ever fully completing and resolving as it does in wild animals.
So from this, we can gather that psychopathic training, including the ritual rape of young PTB children, is specifically designed introduce a cyclicalbiological drama in their formative years. In essence, it turns them into human weapons with no empathy, only different forms of rage. Their subsequent business or social training, hinted at in these novels, probably justifies or 'cools' this rage, and directs it towards its target - everyone who is not one of them (but also probably some of their own kind, too, though to a lesser extent). I see it kinda like how an internal combustion engine functions by thousands of controlled explosions that propel the car forwards - or how a bullet is sent through the barrel of a gun, the orientation and spin of the projectile determined by the grooved 'rifling' inside the barrel.
The key thing in this is the metaphor of the machine. These 'people' are not 'human'.
In these novels, we can see machinic rage expressed 'irrationally' and 'uncontrollably', as in the case of Victoria and her personal revenge. This would possibly be a failure to attain the desired outcome of the conditioning, although it is still a product of it. Also, we can see the type of rage expressed 'according to the agenda', 'rationally' and 'controllably', like an internal combustion engine or a gun, 'going in the right direction', as in the case of Victoria's mother.
As a side note, Blake also killed his father - the book makes it out to be a protective move for his family, but it could also be largely motivated by the 'biological drama' to kill one's rapist.
So rather than 'limitless time and money' being what creates psychopaths, I'd say it's closer to the process outlined above - Soul murder. Then, once you can 'comfortably' torture, poison, manipulate and kill millions of people, it's much easier to set up a system to profit from that, and get all the time and money you want. Especially when your grandparents laid the groundwork for you, and taught you how to do it.
In our day and age, as everything from cell phones to Doritos to the lockdowns have made clear, it's not just that they profit from this intergenerational system of exploitation, in the sense of stealing from us. They get us to pay for our own degradation - and they have also convinced millions and millions to beg for the opportunity to keep doing so.
I remember Blake stating that his couldn’t locate Lana because there was no centralized bank in Iran. This offered a good cover for her to be able to hide from him for a year. A place that even an Elites tentacles couldn’t reach. Is that possible? They have been in the crosshairs of the cult to be bombed back to the Stone Age.
I think Blake is trying to figure out by himself without taking any external help to avoid family member suspicions. Instead, he relied on simple alerts on banking data flow. If he wants to track her, he can easily hire some investigators and could have easily tracked her. criminal guys( white or black w.r.t Law) in every country are all connected at some level by similar hooks and play their games blackmailing each other. For example, Israel killed many Iranian high officials despite all the cautions.
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There are some very interesting insights in the books about the psychology of the elites and some philosophical/esoteric meaning of the struggle of good and evil, which I very much appreciate - especially towards the end of 'Love's Sacrifice'. Obviously, as an author you do need to have a genuine interest in these topics in order to be able to explain them in some depth to the reader.
