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I have found this reference to the works of Emile Pinel that seems to stand in this research field



I hope you will access to the data with pdf


Jedi Master
Since acupuncture is mentioned in this thread I'd like to mention
the info I found on Mellen Thomas Benedict's site, namely that acupuncture
works by the needle killing cells which upon death release biophotons.
Unfortunately no further explanations were given other than mentioning a
book: "The secret Life of your Cells" which is a continuation of Cleve
Backster's work on plants.

Also, considering that light affects the cells and DNA I am even more
suspicious about the push to use "energy saving light bulbs".


The Force is Strong With This One
Y° Leo40
It seems that a laser trought "bad living cellls" bring this information to the "next" cell. And the sickness with.
And same if good, i mean safe
But,on the same "rayon", a dna-molecule would let, even in "nothing", (vide), its image, so like if you put pure water after in the place where the dna-molecuie was, the water molecules would adopt the dna pattern. (Masuro Emoto - L Horowitz -- B Lipton...)
About Cleves Backster, even one non fertilised egg produce a cardiac rythm (similar to the chicken who finaly crossed the road, cool :/ ) that a plant feels...
It moved some my attitude, cutting salade in the garden !
Every "thing" that is, is alive, at least trought the reality of its magnetic field, is sane, safe if this one is equilibrated. (Nassim Haramein,?)
That is surely simply mathematic, and at least deeply poetic.


The C’s talked of light and color and in researching I found this website which helped me to understand how the brain can map the external reality and how the brain could affect the external reality. A wave guide or antenna transmits and receives. The eyes are said to be the window to the soul. We should know our instrument. Dr. Huth theorizes that it is the geometry of the rods/cones that gives us color vision.

Rethinking the Vision Process

A bit poetically…..I believe that the retina of the eye should be visualized, as “a logically spaced array of the wave-to-particle transition sites shown to exist in this work moving through a sea of electromagnetic energy and geometrically extracting three specific wavelengths from that sea to form what we perceive as the visual image and the sensation of the hues of color…”


Jedi Master
Photons switch on the body's processes like a conductor launching each individual instrument into the collective sound. At different frequencies they perform different functions. Popp found with experimentation that molecules in the cells would respond to certain frequencies and that a range of vibrations from the photons would cause a variety of frequencies in other molecules of the body. Light waves also answered the question of how the body could manage complicated feats with different body parts instantaneously or do two or more things at once. These `biophoton emissions', as he was beginning to call them, could provide a perfect communication system, to transfer information to many cells across the organism. But the single most important question remained: where were they coming from?

A particularly gifted student of his talked him into trying an experiment. It is known that when you apply a chemical called ethidium bromide to samples of DNA, the chemical squeezes itself into the middle of the base pairs of the double helix and causes it to unwind. The student suggested that, after applying the chemical, he and Popp try measuring the light coming off the sample. Popp discovered that the more he increased the concentration of the chemical, the more the DNA unwound, but also the stronger the intensity of light. The less he put in, the lower the light emission., He also found that DNA was capable of sending out a large range of frequencies and that some frequencies seemed linked to certain functions. If DNA were storing this light, it would naturally emit more light once it was unwound.

Ever since coming across a figure of the DNA Clamp (PCNA) which was posted here:,33852.msg470544.html#msg470544, the thought that the hexagonal/hexagram nature of this structure reminded me of the work of Victor Grebennikov and his studies on "Cavitational STructure Effect", which briefly was his discovery of the subtle energy he first noticed being emitted from a wasp hive, and other types of hexagonal lattice structures. Given the information provided by Popp about biophotons and DNA I thought there must be a connection.

partial quote follows:

Skyfarmr said:
The beautiful symmetrical structure pictured below is an integral factor of DNA synthesis.


(Proliferating cell nuclear antigen (PCNA))


Top and side views of a homotrimer of the human PCNA sliding clamp (rainbow colored, N-terminus = blue, C-terminus = red) with double stranded DNA modeled through the central pore (magenta).[1]
side view, considered toroidal. (check out "toroidal" on wiki if you're not familiar with that term. neat animations, too.)

From Wikipedia:
A DNA clamp, also known as a sliding clamp, is a protein fold that serves as a processivity-promoting factor in DNA replication.
because one of the rate-limiting steps in the DNA synthesis reaction is the association of the polymerase with the DNA template, the presence of the sliding clamp dramatically increases the number of nucleotides that the polymerase can add to the growing strand per association event. The presence of the DNA clamp can increase the rate of DNA synthesis up to 1,000-fold compared with a nonprocessive polymerase.[2]

There was the comparison of biophotons emitted by DNA and how light travels through fiber optic cables. After checking fiber optics out, and I admit I know little to nothing about fiber optics, but the diagram provided on Wiki, seemed to be a strong connection, or at least another clue at where this light is generated, emitted, OSIT.

Below is a depiction of the electric field vectors of a traveling circularly polarized electromagnetic wave. Note the similarity to the spiral wound DNA double helix.


From Wiki (Circular polarization):
On the right[above] is an illustration of the electric field vectors of a circularly polarized electromagnetic wave.[1] The electric field vectors have a constant magnitude but their direction changes in a rotary manner. Given that this is a plane wave, each vector represents the magnitude and direction of the electric field for an entire plane that is perpendicular to the axis. Specifically, given that this is a circularly polarized plane wave, these vectors indicate that the electric field, from plane to plane, has a constant strength while its direction steadily rotates. Refer to these two images in the plane wave article to better appreciate this. This light is considered to be right-hand, clockwise circularly polarized if viewed by the receiver. would trace out a second helix iSince this is an electromagnetic wave each electric field vector has a corresponding, but not illustrated, magnetic field vector that is at a right angle to the electric field vector and proportional in magnitude to it. As a result, the magnetic field vectors would trace out a second helix if displayed.

Circular polarization is often encountered in the field of optics and in this section, the electromagnetic wave will be simply referred to as light.

Borrowing some more from Wiki's info on fiber optics is the subject of waveguides and total internal reflection:
An optical waveguide is a physical structure that guides electromagnetic waves in the optical spectrum. Common types of optical waveguides include optical fiber and rectangular waveguides.

Optical fiber is typically a circular cross-section dielectric waveguide consisting of a dielectric material surrounded by another dielectric material with a lower refractive index.
Total internal reflection is a phenomenon that happens when a propagating wave strikes a medium boundary at an angle larger than a particular critical angle with respect to the normal to the surface. If the refractive index is lower on the other side of the boundary and the incident angle is greater than the critical angle, the wave cannot pass through and is entirely reflected. The critical angle is the angle of incidence above which the total internal reflectance occurs. This is particularly common as an optical phenomenon, where light waves are involved, but it occurs with many types of waves, such as electromagnetic waves in general or sound waves.

Thinking that the "rungs" of the DNA "ladder" could act as "waveguide" of some sort for the biophoton and/or create the phenomenon of "total internal reflection" ... possibly.

So, could it be possible we already have the technology(fiber optics) for what may possibly help explain the mechanism for light (biophoton) refraction/reflection in DNA?

Just one additional thought regarding technology are superconducting nanotubes, which seem to utilize the same kind of physics of "cavitational structure", and also has somewhat of a multiple helical structure.

I would imagine a 12 stranded DNA would be very close in structure to a nearly solid-walled superconducting nanotube, which Japanese were testing:
Improved Superconductivity in Multi-Walled Carbon Nanotubes
A group of researchers from several institutions in Japan has observed superconductivity — a phenomenon in which electrons flow with no resistance — in billionth-of-a-meter sized cylindrical carbon molecules known as “multi-walled carbon nanotubes.” The nanotubes’ ability to superconduct adds to their many intriguing electrical and physical characteristics.


Read more at:

Again, this is not my area of study. My science education falls far short of connecting all the dots, but it's oh so interesting.


The Living Force
Interesting article. If true, plants can sense human intent.

Your cells are listening: How talking to your body helps you heal


Backster, formerly an interrogation specialist for the CIA, wrote about the defining moment which led him to his real work in this world, in his book Primary Perception.[2]

This moment occurred one February morning in 1966 when he decided to monitor the Dracaena plant in his lab utilizing polygraph equipment. He attached the electrodes to a leaf and began to think about ways that he might induce a surge in electrical activity in the plant. In humans this surge in electrical activity is associated with intense emotions. He suddenly imagined burning the electroded leaf.


The same instant this idea entered his mind, the polygraph pen shot to the top of the chart showing an extreme reaction on the part of the plant. Amazed, he walked to his secretary's desk to retrieve a set of matches while pondering the possibility that this plant was somehow detecting the force of human intention.

When he returned with the matches, the plant was still showing the same high level reaction which would interfere with tracking additional changes on the chart. Backster decided to "remove the threat" by returning the matches to the desk. At this point, the chart displayed a downward trend as the plant apparently began to calm down.[3]


These experiments were conducted while using equipment that screened out electromagnetic radiation — the usual energies used for information transmission. The cells behaved as if the screens weren't there, suggesting that this communication is carried by a field still unidentified by conventional science.[7]


The Living Force
Interesting idea that of communication with plants. Makes sense from a systems perspective that says our skin is no boundary where communication is an issue.


The Living Force
I wonder if the coil size for the EM recording also has a homeopathic relationship - the weaker the coil, the better the recording? Or perhaps the coil could be seen as a container of electrons, and that the signal in the coil could have some homeopathic principle?


The Force is Strong With This One
There's a new paper about to be published and is co-written by Australian physicist and cosmologist Paul Davies which, I think I can say, argues a similar line to 'The Field': that the universe, and in particular complex life forms, is made up not of 'stuff' but information fields.

The "Hard Problem" of Life

Sara Imari Walker, Paul C.W. Davies
(Submitted on 23 Jun 2016)

Chalmer's famously identified pinpointing an explanation for our subjective experience as the "hard problem of consciousness". He argued that subjective experience constitutes a "hard problem" in the sense that its explanation will ultimately require new physical laws or principles. Here, we propose a corresponding "hard problem of life" as the problem of how `information' can affect the world. In this essay we motivate both why the problem of information as a causal agent is central to explaining life, and why it is hard - that is, why we suspect that a full resolution of the hard problem of life will, similar to as has been proposed for the hard problem of consciousness, ultimately not be reducible to known physical principles.

Comments: To appear in "From Matter to Life: Information and Causality". S.I. Walker, P.C.W. Davies and G.F.R. Ellis (eds). Cambridge University Press
Subjects: Other Quantitative Biology (q-bio.OT)
Cite as: arXiv:1606.07184 [q-bio.OT]
(or arXiv:1606.07184v1 [q-bio.OT] for this version)

It's even gotten a write-up in the national press and has been pooh-poohed by the status quo of the science/academic world, like anything that challenges the current paradigm. Some even put the thesis in the verboten territory of 'god' and 'religion'...yikes.


Jedi Council Member
Very informative thread! To reply is a challenge. So here are my thought and insights on topics I came across while going through it:


I totally endorse Sheldrake’s Morphic fields. If those fields are magnetic in their nature, and they probably are, then I have some further ideas about DNA when taking POPP’s findings into consideration.
DNA has/projects a morphic field to which a biological shape/organism is then formed. If DNA is superconducting then the communication that goes through it is instant and it can’t be bound to time like we are. Thats maybe how miraculous healing works. It can easily connect to its older state when the organism was healthy.

A Russian scientis By the name of Piotr Garjajev found that we can be reverted to our healthy state via a picture from our youth. He calls it "Linguistic Wave Genetics". He even got a 60 year old woman to grow her teeth back! I said I will travel to Russia one day for this. Truly amazing!

Is our DNA a direct working link to 6th density and the source of our souls? If it is then perhaps we can receive information coming from the 6th and 7th "floor".
“When a person experiences bodily stress, for example, physical exercise, it can turn certain genes on or off--perhaps through the regulatory function of the junk DNA.” Barbara Oakley - “Evil Genes”

DNA reacts to its environment as shown in Aajonus Vonderplanitz's sheep experiment where parasites materialised “out of thin air” in a sheep that was in a sterile enviroment. And Ive seen that research has been done recently (2020) that confirms it. Stress leaves a mark on the genes and it is then passed on to the next generation.

Ireparable damage to body

Ability to heal/revert back to healthy state is always there in DNA but not if there was too much damage on morphic field level. Extremely powerful blows to the body cause injury that can’t heal back because the force and circumstances of the accident are such that they completely destroy the morphic field/magnetic connection to it and new healthy DNA can’t be copied anymore due to organ failure.. So we can’t regenerate anymore
And the ability to regenerate the body like Salamanders, is in my view present in humans too but in that part of DNA that is missing or turned off. Salamanders are and other lizards that can regenerate are special because they show this fact to us. Just like mushrooms they can be found everywhere as symbols of knowledge and secrets that they hold. And that knowledge leads almost straight into DNA research…

A thought on our scientific approach: When it comes to us and microscopes and research Alan Watts says: "The Universe will always escape our looking at it. The stronger tools we have to magnify, the smaller the Universe will get to escape our eyes." In other words, we will always find new structures in new structures and never get to te center of it, or to the source. I agree that The Source of All Knowledge cannot in itself be an object of knowledge. And to fully grasp The Creator of Creation is, I think, reserved for other Creators, not for the creations (us). Knowing and accepting our limitation is the same as knowing our strenghts. It benefits us.


Time is actually “stretchable” in my view. It is more like a sound you get when you hit a gong than a short tick-tack movement of the arm for seconds on a clock. When we are being very creative we are closer to perceiving time as it is as lot of people have noticed. But one look at the clock and we are back to hard linear sequence mode. In the army I noticed how time is going by very slow when you’re made to do nothing as doing something and I quickly stopped looking at my wrist-watch unless I really had to. My mind could wonder around instead of fixate on when is the time going to pass. To me time seems like a spell that is put on us to teach us certain things (or to make us mortal), and I certainly think time can be "manipulated". Now we just need to learn how to do it lolz.

Cancer - light healing - Alchemy

Alchemist of yore certainly had a different world and set of wants and we can only try and imagine what would their motives be and what was truly going on at those times. But I think that the search for the Philosopher Stone and what it actually is is open to individual interpretation. And I have seen different hypothesis. Is it the secret to hows and whys of existence and manipulation of physical laws or the chase for immortality? Alchemists invented who knows how many new medical procedures. So they could be viewed as “urban” Shamans.

Cancer? I think I know how one can cure himself of cancer now and why fasting and change of lifestyle/diet are necessary steps. Basically by stressing out, eating additives and “dead” food and absorbing poisons through air and water and technology we are blocking the passage of photon “healing-light” in our bodies.
So I think human life can easily be extended If these photon passage ways are clean and their functionality is boosted, especially later in life.

Moth experiment

This makes me think that our heightened photon emissions in illness are the cause for attraction of parasites or bugs or more illness bearing stuff. And those are entities and organisms that feed on our photons. This also makes me conclude that loss of purpose in ones life is heavily connected to the ability to hold energy. Great purpose in life (which includes enjoyment in learning) could be one of the keys to human longevity.

Food as a source of good photons

If certain foods are actually medicine for humans then that means they have the best properties due to the energy field they are connected to. It would be logical if these foods include meat and fish. Also logical that fermented foods do wonders for our gut. In them there are thriving/happy bacteria who probably emit very coherent photons and that could be related to Phages which have recently been found to regulate our micro biome. That is why so many people noticed that good energy/prayer/thankfulness during the preparation and intake of food makes a huge difference (all stages of handling food should include being thankful and saying sorry for what we take).

Im past the confusion of what should be my personal diet. And I nearly died because of those meat-industry videos I saw 7-8 years ago. I made wrong decisions based on faulty knowledge and out of fear so Im not surprised. But Im lucky to be alive! So you wont see me recommending Vegan diet to anyone except maybe enemies.

Plants and sound

Plants certainly like when you talk to them and have a respectable relationship with them. So when you cut them they won’t release so much toxins as they would if you’re mindless and negative while doing it. Ive seen research from India that proves sound can make plants make bigger yields and be more healthy. Mother Nature is teaching us if we humbly observe.
And our magnetic field and “color” of our energy is seen by other organisms and interaction with our environment is constant. We are not closed off in our skins as we are taught. I remember I heard an interview with Michael Tellinger (Ubuntu society, South Africa) where he speaks about sound waves with frequencies around 100HZ being used with stone technology for healing and some other purpose in ancient times. Druids had access to sound technology obviously. Cs confirmed it, right?

“Water could act as a template for the molecule, for example, by an infinite hydrogen-bonded network, or electric and magnetic fields . . . The precise nature of this phenomenon remains unexplained”.

My thought on water is that it is a sort of a memory stick which can be filled with “potential”. But that is already known. I am waiting on the fourth state of water (the water that makes 70% of our bodies) to be researched more because Im sure that would make a breakthrough knowledge in medicine and healing. And the fact that water changes its states because of environment means it has a special connection to our world and our reality. Its role in life is ultra significant. I just hope water wont continue to be used mainly as a carrier for poisons and human negativity!!

The case of a woman scientist where robot doesn’t perform as it should

Some humans obviously have properties of a black hole :lol:
And when you think about acupuncture you wonder how did Chinese discover all that with such precision. Incredible. More incredible is how Chinese of today have lost almost all the culture for which they are famous.

Rife frequencies. Brain entrainment and healing with sound

I found Ray Rife and dr.Hulda Clark when I thought I had a parasite infection. (and maybe I did but you can imagine how I was glad to find Cs talking about psychophysiological changes)

Some time ago I have experimented with making and listening audio files at certain frequency with other certain modulating frequencies as prescribed by Raymond Rife and some other internet resources I found (I made my own sounds in Audacity but deleted them since. There are good examples on youtube) claiming you can even heal your DNA. Did that for a period of few months and then moved on. No way to check if it worked or not. But here I am, feeling 3times more healthy and building muscle in my 40s where there was never no muscle at all so go figure. And Im not saying there isn’t much hard work and discipline behind it. And maybe these changes I am experiencing are all fortified thanks to the approaching Wave or maybe even a parallel reality merge, we will never know. Im saying this because these are some drastic changes. With all I went through I can very much relate my personal experience to the stories of Shaman initiations.

Mistletoe and high strangeness in Istria

In Istra (a region in Croatia) there is a Mistletoe schnapps, and they’re the only one I know of that do it. Istra is known for esoteric happenings and has a history full of high strangeness. Ancient Romans had their villas and vineyards there. Once, while on a gig in the central part of Istria (cca20 years ago) a strange older woman at a dinner party, whom I never seen before just approached me and told me some facts about my present and my future. She told me something about my relationship with my parent that happened 15 years later! And I remembered her prediction only when I sub-consciously realised its meaning.
I must add that I always had a weird approach to memorizing stuff and always felt different because of it. I forget about events or dreams only to remember them when some sort of crystallisation/realization of thoughts occur in my mind. Lately I noticed some memories returning back as my health is growing. Since I was cut open more than few times neurogenesis is very important to me. I lived a miserable life for more than a decade believing neurological problems like PTSD and shot memory are for a lifetime. One of the reasons why I even dare to recommend Psylocibin is because I experienced such benefits from it. It truly is a miracle that a mushroom is capable of neuro genesis in humans (probably all organisms with neural networks). I think problems with psychedelics arise when they are misunderstood and abused. And thats largely due to the fact they are illegal.

Regarding my willingness to offer medical advice. First you must know that this info is coming from a literal veteran! I had a pneumothorax operation 7years ago and 3years later my small intestine burst and nearly killed me. I lost half my weight then and I was "fat". Can you imagine the stress of loosing 40kg in a few days? Ive only recovered from this in the last year and now Im surpassing any old state with even more than my old energy back.

Btw. pneumothorax is when your lungs decide to tear and you cant breed and your lung capacity starts to shrink. If you dont reach the hospital or someone who can perform the puncturing of your lungs so that they inflate back you can die. Scary beyond belief! And it happens for no established reason. Ive asked many doctors and no-one knows for sure what is causing it. Small intestine burst is said to give pains on the magnitude of giving a birth. I lost half my weight then, can you imagine the stress on my organism? Ive only recovered from this in the last year and got more than my energy back.
First one is when your lungs decide to tear for no established reason and second one is said to give pains on the magnitude of giving a birth. After all this Im very very happy to be here.

If anyone is interested in ways to rejuvenate and regenerate themself I found that Mucuna Pruriens helps a lot (ayurvedic medicine). It also boosts level of dopamine but its main action is that it gives opportunity for release of human growth hormone if environment is conducive to its genesis.
“L-DOPA (Mucuna Pruriens) is known for improving brain health, is an antioxidant and heavy metal chelator, improves memory & cognition, lowers symptoms of depression, and boosts libido.” (L-DOPA – Nootropics Expert )
It has to be taken with some caution and self monitoring tho. Too much dopamine can cause issues.

I also found coenzyme coQ10 in powder form (Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) – Nootropics Expert).
"CoQ10 is your cell’s source of energy. It fuels your mitochondria by taking fat and other substances and converting them into usable energy. Coenzyme Q10 helps fuel ATP for the mitochondria in your brain cells. Boosting energy, cognition, memory and recall.”

Feel free to ask me anything on the topic of health, I am ready to share my hard earned knowledge and I will recommend only what I have thorougly experienced myself with success.

If Im mentioning or talking about something that has already been said/mentioned here on this forum (which it probably has since this thread is ancient) I haven’t come across it yet and sorry for that. And the length of this was unavoidable, it took me a week to read the thread and write/edit the post. I used it as an exercise to help me get better focus and prolong my attention span. Happy to say it worked!

Kind regards



The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Q: You said it was derived from matter within a gravity vacuum. Does that mean that superconductivity creates a gravity vacuum?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Where? Within the superconductor or outside?
A: Within.

Q: (A) According to what we know, it also creates an electromagnetic vacuum. Is it correct that there is no magnetic field within the
A: We have stated before that these two properties are interwoven.
Q: (L) Electromagnetism and gravity. So, if there is no gravity, there is no electromagnetism. But then where is the magnetic pulse?
A: Pulse exists outside of gravity vacuum, but within superconductor. Picture a tube structure.
Q: Is the superconducting state within the gravity vacuum or within the em pulse?
A: All inclusive. Normal structure for channeling electron flow within a conductor is a solid "tube," within superconductor; it is a "hollow" tube structure, thus evidence of vacuum.
Q: Does this hollow tube structure have any bearing on what you described as the separating of electrons?
A: It is a manifestation of same.

The bessel function???



The Living Force
FOTCM Member
I am still reading the first pages of the topic. As Laura pointed out, it produces an aha! So I'm making posts connecting the dots as ideas come. So I don't know if someone has already mentioned it. Since I don't want to lose the idea, I write it anyway.

Superconductors are a form of BECs and so are superfluids.[...]However, a COMPOSITE atom is not necessarily excluded from the Bose-Einstein Condensate state because a composite atom, taken as a WHOLE unit, can also be referred to as a boson or 'bosonic atom' if the sum of the spin states of all of its subcomponents are 0 or an integral number.

Well, as far as I read, regarding the information fields, wavelength, DNA, etc. I see that structured water is a part of the whole mechanism that allows cellular communication thanks to the condensed state of structured water. Which acts as a superconductor at room temperature, and the matter that water can memorize. If this ability to memorize is coupled to the structured state, we also see why water can amplify.

The reason this fourth phase of water is called the exclusion zone or EZ is because the first thing Dr. Pollack's team discovered is that it profoundly excludes things. Even small molecules are excluded from structured water. Surprisingly, structured water appears in great abundance, including inside most of your cells. Even your extracellular tissues are filled with this kind of water.

Where can we get structured water?

Spring water -- under pressure (deep in the ground) becomes structured.

Glacial melt -- ice turns into Structured Water (EZ water) when melting . . . The phase between liquid and solid is structured water.

Vortexing -- A vortex occurs naturally in nature, as in streams, rivers, waterfalls, etc. The vortex is a kind of mechanical perturbation or agitation. Vortexing is a very powerful way of increasing structure. There are devices on the market which vortex water.

Most important here:

Sunlight -- critical to our health. Light builds Structured Water

Circulation -- Red blood cells work their way through capillaries; light is the driver of flow. Add light and flow increases. Something other than the heart (pressure) is driving the blood.

Infared light -- energy is generated everywhere. It drives the processes in your body.
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