The Ice Age Cometh! Forget Global Warming!
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I haven't seen these posted, and here seems to be appropriate :)
from: _https://www.facebook.com/SevereWeatherRU/posts/807831339240290
from: _https://www.facebook.com/SevereWeatherRU/posts/807831339240290
WOW!!!
Ice flowers and berries.
Incredibly beautiful photos after freezing rain in Cheboksary today.
Photographer Alexei Semenov.
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dankhiar
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Astonishing pictures, itellsya! Thanks for sharing.
Great photos, itellsya! Reminds of the time I rode to work on my moped when it was minus five degrees Celsius. There was a stretch of road where Willow trees were growing which had lost their leaves, and the trees were covered in dripping icicles. Wonderful! Cold, but..
angelburst29
The Living Force
Roof collapse and possible flooding after Western New York and Buffalo receive roughly 88 inches of lake effect snow.
Aerial footage shows massive roof collapse after barrage of heavy snow (Video)
_http://mashable.com/2014/11/22/massive-roof-collapse-video/
Sat. Nov. 22, 2014 - Aerial footage released Saturday by the Eerie County Sheriff's Office of a massive roof collapse underscores how badly the barrage of snow has impacted area towns.
The video, released on the sheriff's Facebook page, was shot on Friday, according to the footage's timestamp. It shows a large manufacturing area, according to sheriff's officials who appear to be surveying the damage from above as they remark on its severity.
The Sheriff's Office has not released the name of the business nor its location due to safety reasons.
However, the building in the video appears to be the same one Eerie County Executive Mark Poloncarz tweeted about on Thursday.
More than 30 other roofs have collapsed amid the snowstorms that brought roughly 88 inches of snow to parts of the region in western New York. Now, area residents and officials are bracing for possible flooding.
Unraveling the mysteries of deadly 'firehose' lake-effect snow events (Photo's)
_http://mashable.com/2014/11/20/lake-effect-snow-mysteries/
Sat. Nov. 22, 2014 - This week's snowstorm in Buffalo, New York, which has come in two deadly rounds that together have left many communities just south of the city struggling to cope with what will likely amount to a year's worth of snow in the timespan of less than one week, has been one of the most capricious and stubborn lake-effect events that meteorologists have witnessed in recent years.
Lake-effect snow events occur along the Great Lakes when cold Arctic air blows over relatively mild and open lake waters during the fall and spring. These snowstorms can tie forecasters in knots because they can suddenly intensify, shift course on a moment's notice, and deliver some of the world's highest snowfall rates. For example, on Thursday evening, the National Weather Service was warning that some towns south of Buffalo were seeing snowfall at greater than 4 inches per hour.
"These bands that come off of Lake Erie and Lake Ontario, they probably produce the most intense snowstorms of anywhere in the world," Steenburgh said. "They produce these firehoses of snow."
The only other area of the world where such prodigious amounts of lake-effect snow occur is in northern Japan, according to Steenburgh, on the western coast of Honshu and Hokkaido, where up to 500 inches of snow fall annually. In Japan, though, the snowfall trigger is repeated rounds of frigid winds from Asia blowing over the warmer waters of the Sea of Japan, making the U.S. is home to the fiercest, lake-effect snow.
Evacuation plans for possible Buffalo flooding prepared (Photo)
_http://www.newsday.com/news/region-state/evacuation-plans-for-possible-buffalo-flooding-prepared-1.9645877
Sun, Nov. 23, 2014 - BUFFALO, N.Y. - Gov. Andrew Cuomo says evacuation plans are being prepared and the Red Cross is setting up shelters as rising temperatures melt 7 feet of snow in the Buffalo area, causing a risk of flooding.
Aerial footage shows massive roof collapse after barrage of heavy snow (Video)
_http://mashable.com/2014/11/22/massive-roof-collapse-video/
Sat. Nov. 22, 2014 - Aerial footage released Saturday by the Eerie County Sheriff's Office of a massive roof collapse underscores how badly the barrage of snow has impacted area towns.
The video, released on the sheriff's Facebook page, was shot on Friday, according to the footage's timestamp. It shows a large manufacturing area, according to sheriff's officials who appear to be surveying the damage from above as they remark on its severity.
The Sheriff's Office has not released the name of the business nor its location due to safety reasons.
However, the building in the video appears to be the same one Eerie County Executive Mark Poloncarz tweeted about on Thursday.
More than 30 other roofs have collapsed amid the snowstorms that brought roughly 88 inches of snow to parts of the region in western New York. Now, area residents and officials are bracing for possible flooding.
Unraveling the mysteries of deadly 'firehose' lake-effect snow events (Photo's)
_http://mashable.com/2014/11/20/lake-effect-snow-mysteries/
Sat. Nov. 22, 2014 - This week's snowstorm in Buffalo, New York, which has come in two deadly rounds that together have left many communities just south of the city struggling to cope with what will likely amount to a year's worth of snow in the timespan of less than one week, has been one of the most capricious and stubborn lake-effect events that meteorologists have witnessed in recent years.
Lake-effect snow events occur along the Great Lakes when cold Arctic air blows over relatively mild and open lake waters during the fall and spring. These snowstorms can tie forecasters in knots because they can suddenly intensify, shift course on a moment's notice, and deliver some of the world's highest snowfall rates. For example, on Thursday evening, the National Weather Service was warning that some towns south of Buffalo were seeing snowfall at greater than 4 inches per hour.
"These bands that come off of Lake Erie and Lake Ontario, they probably produce the most intense snowstorms of anywhere in the world," Steenburgh said. "They produce these firehoses of snow."
The only other area of the world where such prodigious amounts of lake-effect snow occur is in northern Japan, according to Steenburgh, on the western coast of Honshu and Hokkaido, where up to 500 inches of snow fall annually. In Japan, though, the snowfall trigger is repeated rounds of frigid winds from Asia blowing over the warmer waters of the Sea of Japan, making the U.S. is home to the fiercest, lake-effect snow.
Evacuation plans for possible Buffalo flooding prepared (Photo)
_http://www.newsday.com/news/region-state/evacuation-plans-for-possible-buffalo-flooding-prepared-1.9645877
Sun, Nov. 23, 2014 - BUFFALO, N.Y. - Gov. Andrew Cuomo says evacuation plans are being prepared and the Red Cross is setting up shelters as rising temperatures melt 7 feet of snow in the Buffalo area, causing a risk of flooding.
Snow, snow, everywhere!
Signs Of Change The Past Week Or So November 2014
Signs Of Change The Past Week Or So November 2014
CelticWarrior
Jedi
Yes the snow is getting worse. And the fluctuation in temperatures is increasing along with all the snowfall. I'd say... Ready. Set. Watch out for that ice age swith to flip at any given time. Again we head back to the idea of solar activity (and electrical activity) causing massive disruptions on Earth's climate.
"Rather than temperature, the more important factor for snow cover is the jet stream circulation. If and when the jet stream is able to transport cold air from the Arctic into the mid-latitudes, that opens the door for snow cover to build south. This fall, the jet stream took some notable southward excursions, spreading snow into places where it’s not always common."
Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/12/04/fall-snow-cover-in-northern-hemisphere-was-most-extensive-on-record-even-with-temperatures-at-high-mark/
"Rather than temperature, the more important factor for snow cover is the jet stream circulation. If and when the jet stream is able to transport cold air from the Arctic into the mid-latitudes, that opens the door for snow cover to build south. This fall, the jet stream took some notable southward excursions, spreading snow into places where it’s not always common."
Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/12/04/fall-snow-cover-in-northern-hemisphere-was-most-extensive-on-record-even-with-temperatures-at-high-mark/
On page one of this thread, Gaby mentioned "the significance of the thermohaline circulation and its possible shutdown".
One scenario I have envisaged where this could happen is the possibility of a change in the depth/altitude of the mid-Atlantic ridge due to Earth Changes from Volcanic/Cometary activity, or even as a result of the Fracking going on in the USA.
Should the Ridge rise significantly, the Gulf Stream would almost certainly shut down.
Then temperatures on the East of the Atlantic would suddenly become the same as those on the West side in Newfoundland and Greenland at the same latitudes.
Instant Ice Age..
One scenario I have envisaged where this could happen is the possibility of a change in the depth/altitude of the mid-Atlantic ridge due to Earth Changes from Volcanic/Cometary activity, or even as a result of the Fracking going on in the USA.
Should the Ridge rise significantly, the Gulf Stream would almost certainly shut down.
Then temperatures on the East of the Atlantic would suddenly become the same as those on the West side in Newfoundland and Greenland at the same latitudes.
Instant Ice Age..
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dankhiar
Guest
I'm sorry, I don't understand. Is the Arctic melting, while the Antarctic is expanding? I thought the "Ice Age" was gonna be focused on the upper hemisphere. Well, it seems like it is focusing on the upper hemisphere due to the massive amounts of snow and record breaking cold temperatures it's been getting. But why is the Arctic ice melting?
D'Ankhiar said:
The Arctic sea ice melts and expands in an annual cycle, with the point of least coverage being in September. If you look at graphs showing the extent of sea ice coverage at some particular month of each year since records based on satellite data began in 1979, there is a downward trend. But if you look at just the last twelve year period (since 2002), you could draw a straight line "average" through those points. Or if you just looked at the period 2006-2014, you could draw an upward trend line, showing increasing coverage of ice, rather than a decline. So, other than the melting and expanding that occurs seasonally, it cannot be deduced from the data that the Arctic ice is presently on the decline.
As for what the ice coverage was earlier than 1978, one should be careful what data one uses. The Anthropogenic Global Warming supporters, as represented by the IPCC, have made a habit of practicing bad science and cherry-picking the data. James Delingpole's book Watermelons (2011) is I think a good introduction to the Climategate scandal and the corruption of good science. The AGW is a billion dollar politicized industry, which gets enormous media coverage for claims which can be fairly dubious though they make good headlines. For example, Delingpole notes how in the Observer newspaper it was reported in 2007 that the Arctic's sea ice had declined so much that the North West Passage had opened up for the first time since records began [in 1978], yet Roald Amundsen took a ship through this passage in 1903, and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police regularly went through the North West Passage during the 1940s.
The IPCC terms of reference don't even include within their mandate investigating things like the Mediaeval Warm Period, when Arctic ice would have been even less than it has been in the 20th-21st centuries.
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dankhiar
Guest
Thanks! That explains it. For sure, we need to be careful what we rely on for our source of information.Mal7 said:The Arctic sea ice melts and expands in an annual cycle, with the point of least coverage being in September. If you look at graphs showing the extent of sea ice coverage at some particular month of each year since records based on satellite data began in 1979, there is a downward trend. But if you look at just the last twelve year period (since 2002), you could draw a straight line "average" through those points. Or if you just looked at the period 2006-2014, you could draw an upward trend line, showing increasing coverage of ice, rather than a decline. So, other than the melting and expanding that occurs seasonally, it cannot be deduced from the data that the Arctic ice is presently on the decline.
As for what the ice coverage was earlier than 1978, one should be careful what data one uses. The Anthropogenic Global Warming supporters, as represented by the IPCC, have made a habit of practicing bad science and cherry-picking the data. James Delingpole's book Watermelons (2011) is I think a good introduction to the Climategate scandal and the corruption of good science. The AGW is a billion dollar politicized industry, which gets enormous media coverage for claims which can be fairly dubious though they make good headlines. For example, Delingpole notes how in the Observer newspaper it was reported in 2007 that the Arctic's sea ice had declined so much that the North West Passage had opened up for the first time since records began [in 1978], yet Roald Amundsen took a ship through this passage in 1903, and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police regularly went through the North West Passage during the 1940s.
The IPCC terms of reference don't even include within their mandate investigating things like the Mediaeval Warm Period, when Arctic ice would have been even less than it has been in the 20th-21st centuries.
