The Mood Cure

Maat said:
I found this article in French :
_http://www.cinak.com/editions/articles_fre/hpu.pdf

which leads me to this in switzerland :
_http://cinak.com/home.php?id=contact

hope this helps
It helps a lot, thanks ! That's the first time i read something about pyroluria/HPU/KPU in french. This disease has so many names, it's hard to google valuable informations about it. I still have to found a test lab for the pyrrole test, I'm gonna call the CINAK people monday, maybe they will give me some addresses.
 
Another article in english

_http://www.betterhealthguy.com/joomla/images/stories/PDF/kpu_klinghardt_explore_18-6.pdf
 
The following notes were shared on this show: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sottradionetwork/2015/05/04/the-health-and-wellness-show--04-may-2015--mood-cure

It is meant to serve as a "map" to complement personal research (do read the recommended books!) and other supplement suggestions made on that show.

It is a very rough synthesis derived from this book, forum member research and experiments, SOTT and cass forum database, and non-forum experiences shared in my blog.

Mood problems can be roughly divided in 4 groups depending on which chemical pathways and products are affected or deficient {Questionnaires to identify imbalances on these 4 groups are available at moodcure.com. People often can relate with all problems, but usually the center of gravity falls in one group}

1) Serotonin problems

Serotonin is a chemical which helps regulate sleep. It raises our pain threshold and elevates our mood. There are more receptors in our digestive tract than in our brain for serotonin, so imbalances can interfere with proper intestinal function.

These are people who may have fibromyalgia or IBS. They can be night owls, finding it very hard to fall asleep. They can be anxious with low self-esteem and have a tendency to be negative and obsessive. They also crave starchy foods or sweets and can suffer from migraines or chronic headaches.

Tryptophan ---> Serotonin ----> Melatonin.

Supplements: The most favored one is 5 HTP 300mg per day, starting with 50mg twice per day and building up the dose every 2 days by 50mg. Despite serotonin controversies, some people continue to have very good experiences with this supplement. Absolute contraindication when MAO inhibitors are taken. Relative contraindication with serotonin boosting anti-depressants.

Sometimes tryptophan works better: 500mg at bedtime, dose can be increased by 500mg if necessary.

Sometimes melatonin is needed to achieve a good night sleep: time released melatonin supplement, starting with 0.5mg and building up the dose by 0.5mg until a good night sleep is achieved (maximum 6mg).

St. John's Wort 300mg three times per day as an alternative.

2) Catecholamines (dopamine, adrenaline, noradrenaline) and thyroid problems

These are people who use alcohol, chocolate and caffeine as mood enhancers. They often feel apathetic with low physical or mental energy. They lack motivation, finding it difficult to focus or concentrate (ADHD!). They might need lots of sleep, they can gain weight easily and are easily chilled. They can have cold hands and feet. They tend to have addictions which seek to stimulate or wear out dopamine levels (cocaine, porn, marijuana, video games, ETC!).

Tyrosine ----> dopamine ----> Norepinephrine ----> Epinephrine

Supplements: L-tyrosine 500mg up to 3 times per day (if one dose is not enough) on an empty stomach, no later than mid-afternoon.

For those who don't respond to L-tyrosine: L-phenylalanine 500mg, 1 to 4 capsules in between meals no later than mid-afternoon. Stop if there is stomach discomfort or headaches.

Exercise really does change the mood in these people (I can personally attest it!)

3) Adrenal problems

These are overstressed, dead-lined and overworked people. They tend to be tense (lots of muscle tension!) and feel overwhelmed. They can feel shaky, might be sensitive to bright light or noise or chemical fumes. They feel worse if they go too long without eating, yet they often wake up without hunger, they have a coffee for breakfast in order to extract "the last drops of juice" from their adrenals (skipping breakfast and having only coffee stimulates cortisol). They can have lots of food sensitivities, hair loss, women can have more body hair, they tend to fall sick with any infection more often, they also usually went through a personal big shock lately (major surgery, job loss, divorce, ETC).

Cortisol, reproductive hormones, DHEA, fight or flight response, salt reglulation hormones.

If there is no iron overload: Vitamin C.

Alternatives: Any adrenal support (herbal remedies sold as adrenal support or glandular extracts such as adrenal cortex).
Low dose hydrocortisone: 2.5 mg first in the morning, up to 10 mg throughout the day no later than mid-afternoon.
Progesterone cream or gel applied in inner linings according to instructions.

GABA 100mg 1-3 per day, up to 500mg to relax and ease up muscle tension.

4) Endorphins

These are highly sensitive people. Emotional or physical pain really gets them. They cry easily and try to avoid dealing with painful issues. They find it hard to get over losses or grief and they crave pleasure or mind numbing foods with morphine such as bread and dairy, or drugs such as marijuana, or activities such as watching movies or reading novels.

Endogenous morphine-like substances.

DL-phenylalanine (DLPA) 500mg one capsule first in the morning, up to three times per day no later than mid afternoon. Specially if too much physical or emotional pain. It is a potent endorphin booster and usually works better if taken only for a few days on a row. Taking it chronically can cause a re-bound and/or worse effect.

Alternatives: A blend of amino acids (containing lysine, methionine, leucine, tryptophan, phenylalanine, threonine, valine, isoleucine, histidine) 800mg twice per day, no later than 3pm. 5 HTP also increases endorphins, but after a month of supplementation.

Vitamin C also boosts endorphins.
 
Thanks Gaby, for the really good summary of Mood problems, and the supplementations to help solve them - much appreciated :)! Will also listen to the show linked.
 
And as for serotonine problems, maybe sunlight should be added to the list of helpers.
 
The Gurdjieff'Work

i just received this book, the first of a few I ordered. This book was written by one of Gurdjieff's pupils, Katherine Riordan Speeth. It got 5 stars on Amazon and is recommended as a good starting point in that it takes G's complex ideas and organized them in a clear and concise manner.... Makes them easy to understand. Hoping it prepares me for the other books I ordered and that it will bring me up to speed so that I can participate more cohesively in the discussions.

If any one would like to recommend any othe bookd, I'd be grateful.

Also reading the Wave series.
 
Yes, thank you very much indeed Gaby, now better understand those lows of mood came to experience.

Gaby said:
Vitamin C also boosts endorphins.

This makes sense because when i take vitamin C, really seems to give momentum to address situations that are stressful or painful for me.
 
Thanks for the summaries Gaby! I took the tests on Julia Ross' Mood Cure website (found here: _http://www.moodcure.com/take_the_mood_type_questionnaire.html), and I definitely need some help balancing out my brain chemicals! Scores were 28 for Type 1, 6 for Type 2, 17 for Type 3, 8 for Type 4, and 3 for Type 5.

Will be ordering the book and listening to the show to try and get a grip on this. I knew my brain chemistry wasn't in the best shape, but dang!
 
Just came across this thread!! And i'm so excited to order the book!

Meanwhile i'll be watching the interview to Julia Ross and the SOTT Radio Show that's posted above :D

Thanks so much Gaby
 
Padme90 said:
Just came across this thread!! And i'm so excited to order the book!

Meanwhile i'll be watching the interview to Julia Ross and the SOTT Radio Show that's posted above :D

Thanks so much Gaby

Hi Padme90, I tried all these solutions too and they do help!
I did find that this protocol seems to be helping even more so with my hormones Iodine and Potassium Iodide
 
Thanks very mucho Lylyiac :)

Yes! I've been reading this Iodine thread, too much great info! And we are looking forward to start with this at home :D
 
Padme90 said:
Thanks very mucho Lylyiac :)

Yes! I've been reading this Iodine thread, too much great info! And we are looking forward to start with this at home :D

I would also prioritize iodine as a "mood cure". The bromide detox reactions are quite something. Brain fog, ADHD, schizophrenia-like symptoms, dark thoughts, etc... Once the detox reactions are over, it might actually be easier to find out who you really are and what you can do.

:flowers:
 
I finished "The Mood Cure" about 4 weeks ago and started experimenting a bit, with very interesting results so far that I'd like to share. Here are my observations after a few days of starting the experiment:
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I can recommend this book to everyone, especially those who have trouble with their 'inner life', mood swings, depressions, dark thoughts, concentration problems etc. Not only does the author offer solutions that actually seem to work in many cases, I think it also helps tremendously to understand what is going on in our bodies - how the various neurotransmitters/peptides work in the body and how it is all connected. I think it can shed some light on things Gurdjieff said and help us understand the biology behind it, and it helps with self-observation. It might be a very useful and even important part of the Work to learn how to discern the different chemicals working inside of us - like 'oh, this is how serotonin/endorphin etc. feels like'.

The most dramatic result I got was from taking 5-HTP - a supplement that delivers the raw chemical from which the neurotransmitter Serotonin is made. According to the book, many people suffer from a Serotonin deficiency (up to 80%), and it provides a test for the symptoms. My wife and I both checked a whole lot of the boxes! So that's the first we started experimenting with.

We took 50mg every night together with True Calm (containing 200mg GABA) before going to bed, and sometimes 5-HTP during the day as well to observe the effects. It worked very quickly and I could literally feel my whole 'mood chemistry' re-balance itself! It felt as if a path between my body and mind had cleared, and my usual dark thoughts, clouds and thought loops were almost gone - poof! Incredible.

At the beginning, I literally tried to get this 'dark cloud'/worrying thoughts and feelings back, because I thought something is not right! I thought that maybe this supplement makes me numb and emotionless, because I could observe that I had kind of a 'whatever' attitude to some things after beginning the protocol. Was I getting unproductive without the constant worry and pressure in my mind? But now I think that I was just so used to running negative thought loops and the associated emotions that I was stunned that there's a life without them! I also observed my overall productivity, which doesn't seem to have changed (maybe it even increased slightly), but I can do things now with much less stress, worry and crazy-thoughts!

Also, my emotional life doesn't feel numb, it's just that emotions don't wreck havoc to my entire system so much anymore. If we compare our emotional impulses to a piano where certain notes are played, I now have the feeling that I can discern these notes better and listen to the note. Before, it felt more like every time I have an emotional reaction, someone slams on the piano violently and everything - thoughts, emotions, sensations - went crazy! In other words, emotions don't trigger a whole chain reaction of events any more - for example thought loops going into overdrive, panic setting in etc. - but better do what they are supposed to do: sending a signal that I can acknowledge. As far as I understand it, this is one role Serotonin plays in the body - it communicates certain feelings and is important for making the emotional system resilient and reliable. It seems to be particularly important for the expression of positive emotions, which is why depressed people often have low Serotonin levels (many anti-depressants alter the Serotonin levels as well, but in a very different way and with much more side effects than 5-HTP).

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I wrote the above a couple of days after the experiments, and now after 4 weeks, much of it is still true. Of course, there are no 'wonder pills', but I feel that I became more resilient to emotional stress and irrational negative emotions. My wife reports the same, and she used to have problems with panic attacks during the night, which are almost gone!

I think though that such protocols need to go hand in hand with conscious efforts to be really effective - we still need to 'catch ourselves' when something triggers us, make conscious efforts to overcome blockages, negative thoughts and so on, but it seems to be easier with enough neurotransmitters. I also recommend the book 'Molecules of Emotion' to understand this relationship better - the author gives many interesting details on how our consciousness communicates with our body via these 'molecules of emotions' and how it is a two-way street. And this reflects my experience: we need to approach this from two angles at once, the optimization of our chemicals and using these chemicals productively with our consciousness/ through conscious efforts.
 

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