The Nature of Things

[Εἰρήνη]

ROEL,

the more I think about it, the more connections I see, the better I "hear" the "music of the spheres"

Here are the words by Rumi (as quoted in W. Chittick), which I think relate to the topic

Form does not exist for its own sake, but manifests a meaning above and beyond itself.

Behold the form of the heavens and the earth, and through this form draw benefit from that Universal Meaning. For you see that changes wrought by the Wheel of Heaven, the rains of the clouds in season, summer and winter, and the changes of Time. You see that everything is in its place and in accordance with wisdom. After all, how does this inanimate cloud know that it must send down rain in season? You see the earth, how it nurtures plants and makes one into ten. Well, Someone does this. See Him by means of this world, and take replenishment from Him. Just as you take replenishment from the meaning of the human reality through the body, take replenishment from the meaning of the world through the world's form.

 

[Εἰρήνη]

Rumi:

People look at secondary causes and think that they are the origin of everything that happens. But it has been revealed to the Awliyas(saints) that secondary causes are no more than a Purdha (Veil)

These secondary causes are veils upon the eyes, for not every eye is worthy of seeing His craftsmanship.

One must have an eye which cuts through secondary causes and tears aside all veils.

 

[Divide by Zero]

Interesting posts about gravity!

It's interesting when you look at the 3 main forces in the universe!

-Electric charge- can repel or attract
-Magnetism- can repel or attract
and
-Gravity- only attraction (so far)

So perhaps gravity is a physical manifestation of some sort of order.


It reminds me of what was mentioned in the book The 5th Option.

You have a box with 5 coins in it.
The objective is to get 5 heads up.
Close the box, shake the box, and check.
After many tries you can get all heads. This takes a LOT of energy to create order.

If you take that same box, look at the coins and flip them over to be heads, you have expended much less energy by using awareness.


Entropy means that every interaction results in wasted heat/energy (disorder).

The author was stating that due to entropy, everything becomes more chaotic if you look at it from a purely physical view.
That is the example of shaking the box to get the chance that the 5 coins match up. Same for creation of life, it would require many many tries to get to where we are.

But life is not like that. There is some kind of intelligence behind it which "flips the coins".

Seeing how so far gravity only attracts, it reminds me of the C's messages and the idea of consciousness which reduces entropy of the system.

 

[Εἰρήνη]

Interesting posts about gravity!

It's interesting when you look at the 3 main forces in the universe!

-Electric charge- can repel or attract
-Magnetism- can repel or attract
and
-Gravity- only attraction (so far)

So perhaps gravity is a physical manifestation of some sort of order.


It reminds me of what was mentioned in the book The 5th Option.

You have a box with 5 coins in it.
The objective is to get 5 heads up.
Close the box, shake the box, and check.
After many tries you can get all heads. This takes a LOT of energy to create order.

If you take that same box, look at the coins and flip them over to be heads, you have expended much less energy by using awareness.


Entropy means that every interaction results in wasted heat/energy (disorder).

The author was stating that due to entropy, everything becomes more chaotic if you look at it from a purely physical view.
That is the example of shaking the box to get the chance that the 5 coins match up. Same for creation of life, it would require many many tries to get to where we are.

But life is not like that. There is some kind of intelligence behind it which "flips the coins".

Seeing how so far gravity only attracts, it reminds me of the C's messages and the idea of consciousness which reduces entropy of the system.

Divide By Zero, excellent explanation to counteract the claims of those who say that there is no higher intelligence, that everything came into order through countless meaningless interactions of matter, and whatever "stuck" is a result of luck.
Before I could not even find words to explain it to people.

Nature always find the most efficient way, no energy gets wasted. And the higher intelligence can be seen in the laws by which nature is organized and which manifest on a larger scale in cosmos and in smaller scale as well. Did these laws come into being by a simple mingling of matter? absolutely not!

People, who see these signs will see the manifestations of the higher intelligence everywhere.

 

[Menna]

The author was stating that due to entropy, everything becomes more chaotic if you look at it from a purely physical view.
That is the example of shaking the box to get the chance that the 5 coins match up. Same for creation of life, it would require many many tries to get to where we are.

You can also be non reactive take time think without shaking or urself flipping the coins or not care about the coins at all. Sometimes doing nothing when experiencing or going through a situation is better than reacting physically there are more options than just looking at something from purely physical or not you can let things pass you buy. This has helped me on my current journey towards my aim because every situation, person, thing is not for your benefit and does not need an entropic reaction or view there can be a nothing view or reaction from you this gives you a chance to regroup analyse and re view and approach. Letting forces and energy act without or with very little of my involvement has suited me better overal then when I would react more often than not.