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Gaby said:
As further examples, we may compare the modern Gilyak and,221 especially, the well-attested bear sacrifice of the Ainu, the iyomante festival,222 as well as bear hunting (kebokai by the matagi hunters).
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Gaby,

We found a video in which kebokai appears, and Aya and I translated the narration.


What is “Kebokai”?

・From the TV program "The World of Matagi in Ou Cordillera" broadcast by NHK (Nihon Housou Kyoukai = Japan Broadcasting Corporation) on June 7, 1987.

・”Matagi” are people who make their living only by hunting. There were 4 matagis in this town at this point. This is “Animachi (阿仁町, あにまち)”, a town in northern Akita prefecture (which was merged with other towns in March 2005, and this name is no longer used).

3:26－4:13

Narrator:

Kebokai.
It is a ceremony to return the spirit of harvested bear to the mountain gods.
Matagis pray in gratitude to the mountain gods for the blessings and to the bears for food.
A long time ago, bears were a valuable source of protein for people in mountain villages.
A simple belief in this mountain god has remained unchanged for hundreds of years among Matagis.
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From SHOTW pt.1 p.222

Coming at the problem from another direction,we discover that about ten thousand years ago,a group of people lived in the northern part of Japanwho were ethnically distinct from the rest of the Japanese population.They were named “Ainu”,meaning human being or male in their own language.

This word is remarkably similar to the words “Manu” and “Anu”, which we will encounter more than once.

The Ainu were generally assumed to be descendants of an ancient people referred to as Emishi in the famous Japanese chronicles called “Kojiki” and “Nihon-syoki”.

Today, the term Ainuis used to denote the indigenous people of Hokkaido, Japan’s northernmost island, as a single, integrated population who are the descendants of the Ainu of ten thousand years ago.

The traditional Ainu lifestyle was hunting, fishing and gathering.

Ainu religious beliefs center around the existence of another world of spirit essences subject to the same forces that control the visible world.

The people worship animal Gods, especially the bear, with ritual, song and dance.

Even the Ainu language is unusual in its Asian environment.

Although they possessed no system of writing, they created a rich oral tradition of stories and poems expressed in formal prose and verse.

We, of course, immediately think of the Bear cults of Europe, and the bear skulls found in the caves of France dating back in the tens of thousands of years.

The Ainu are a morphological problem. The characteristics that differentiate them from Asians are their hairiness and their hair “form”. The explanation is that there is a strong admixture of Caucasoid genetics in the Ainu.

Some experts consider them to be related to the Australian aborigines, and others think that they represent an independent grouping altogether.

この問題に対するもう1つの方向からのアプローチによって、約１0,000年前、日本の北部地方には、残りの日本人とは民族的に異なる人々の住んでいたことが分かっている。彼らは「アイヌ」
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/アイヌと命名されたのであるが、これは彼らの言葉で、人間ないし男という意味である。全生命を滅ぼす大洪水をヴィシュヌ神の助けで生き延び、人類の始祖となったインド神話の登場人物の名である「マヌ」
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/マヌという言葉と、「アイヌ」とは著しく似ているが、このような例は本書に繰り返し出てくるであろう。日本の有名な年代記である『古事記』および『日本書紀』において蝦夷（えみし）
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/蝦夷と呼ばれている古代人が居るのだが、アイヌはその子孫であると一般に考えられている。
こんにちアイヌという語は、10000年前のアイヌ人の子孫を意味するのに用いられている。彼らは日本列島最北の島である北海道の先住民であり、単一の統合された人種であるとされている。

アイヌの伝統的なライフスタイルは狩猟、漁撈、採集であった。アイヌ人の信仰の中心にあったのは、もう1つの世界（カムイモシリ）の存在であり、そこに住む「ラマッ」と呼ばれる霊的実体もまた、現世（アイヌモシリ）と同じ力によってコントロールされていると信じられていた。
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/アイヌ文化この人々は動物神、とりわけ熊を崇拝し、儀式や歌、踊りも行う。
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/イオマンテアイヌは言語すらも、アジアという環境では独特である。彼らは文字を持たなかったが、口承による物語や詩を数多く産み出し、定型の散文や韻文で表現している。もちろん、すぐさま想起されるのは、ヨーロッパにおける熊にまつわる儀式（カルト、祭り）であり、
http://www31.ocn.ne.jp/~kmatsum/uskonto/uskonto8.htmlフランスの洞窟で発見されている、1万数千年前に遡る熊の頭骨である。
http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/clottes/page6.phphttp://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ショーヴェ洞窟
アイヌ民族自体が形態上の難問である。彼らが特徴的にアジア人種と異なるのは、「毛深さ」と髪の「タイプ」である。アイヌには相当、白人種の遺伝子が混じっているからであると説明される。専門家の中には彼らがオーストラリアのアボリジニと関連があると考えるものや、全く独立した人種であるとするものも居る。
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This reminds me of the Paranthas.

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Q: In the information I now have on the Canaries, I found that a strange icon appeared on the island long before the conquest, long before any missionaries or Europeans arrived. The natives were the big, blond types. They said that they knew this icon was divine because following its appearance, there were processions of angels, or divine beings, up and down the beach where it appeared, lights, smells, chanting and singing and so forth. How did the statue of the Virgin of Candelaria arrive on the beach at Tenerife?
カナリア諸島に関して調べてみたんだけど、ヨーロッパの征服者たちや宣教師が到着する遥か前から、奇妙な偶像が島にはあったのね。元来の原住民は巨人で、中には身長4m、歯が80本あるのも居たと言われてるわ。ブロンドでね。原住民はキリスト教については何も知らなかったけど、この偶像が神聖なものであることは分かっていたと言われてるのよ。というのも、これが出現した後、天使か神が列をなして浜辺を行ったり来たり、辺りは光に包まれ、香りがたちこめ、詠唱、歌唱等々が鳴り響いたと言うわ。カンデラリアの聖母像はどうやってテネリフェ島の浜辺にやって来たのかしら？

A: Teleportation.
テレポーテーション。

Q: Who teleported it there?
誰が像をそこにテレポーテーションしたの？

A: The "Celts."
「ケルト人」。

Q: Celts in the sense of the Druids?
ドルイド僧という意味でのケルト人？

A: Or in the sense of Atlanteans.
ないしは、アトランティス人という意味で。

Q: Now, you said before that Atlanteans were not Celts, is that correct?
あなたたち以前、アトランティス人はケルト人じゃなかったって言ったわよね？

A: No.
そうではない。

Q: The Atlanteans were Celts?
アトランティス人はケルト人なの？

A: "Celts, Druids," etc... are merely latter day designations.
「ケルト人、ドルイド僧」等々．．．は、単に後代の呼び名に過ぎない。

Q: Let's back up here. You said that the Celts came from Kantek. They were transported by the Lizzies... brought here, correct?
確認させて頂戴。あなたたち、ケルト人はカンテックから来たって言ってたわよね。彼らはリジーによって運ばれてきたんだと。。。此処にね？

A: Yes.

Q: When the Lizzies did this, how many Celts were physically brought here?
リジーによって、物理的に運ばれてきたケルト人は何人？

A: Hundreds of millions.
数億人。

Q: How long, in our terms, did it take to bring these Celts to this planet? Or, is this ongoing?
ケルト人をこの星に連れてくるのに、私たちの時間でどれくらいかかったの？もしかして、それってまだ続いてるの？

A: Well, in the sense that you measure it, let us say about a week.
あなた方の測り方だと、約1週間だと言っておこう。

Q: Did they transport them in ships, that is some sort of structure. That is, did they load them up, move them into 4th density, reemerge here in 3rd density, or something like that?
リジーが彼らを運んだ時は、宇宙船かあるいは何かその類の造りの物に詰め込むかなんかして、一旦第4密度を経由して、ここ第3密度に再び現れるか何かしたの？

A: Close.

Q: And they unloaded them in the area of the Caucasus, is that correct?
で、連中は彼らをコーカサス山脈辺りに下ろしたのね？

A: And regions surrounding.
それと、周辺の地域に。

Q: And, that was what, 79 to 80 thousand years ago?
それが、7万年から8万年前のことだったのね？

A: Over 80,000.
8万年以上前。

Q: As I understand it, Atlantis was already quite a developed civilization at that time, is that correct?
私の理解によれば、アトランティスは当時既に、高度な文明に発展していた筈よね？

A: Yes,
but regions change with waves of immigration, or conquest... witness your own lands.
だけど、繁栄していた地域は、相次ぐ入植ないし征服のために、移り変わって行った．．．あなたの国を見なさい。

Q: You also said once
あなたたち以前、
that there was a nuclear war in India and that this was what was being discussed in the Vedas when it talks about the 'blue-skinned' people who weren't really blue because they were Celts, and they were flying in aircraft, and they were engaged in this war, etc. Who were the Celts at war with?
that there was a nuclear war in India
インドでは核戦争があって、ヒンズー経典ヴェーダに描かれてるのは、そのときの模様だとも言ってたわね。ヴェーダで「青い肌の」人々とされる彼らは本当は青かった訳ではない、というのも、彼らは実は、古代に飛行機で飛んでいたケルト人で、彼らがこの戦争を行った、等々と言ってたでしょ。ケルト人と戦ってたのは誰だったの？

A: The Paranthas.
パランタ人。

Q: Now, wait a minute! Who are the Paranthas?! Do we have a new player here?
ちょっと待って！誰よ、パランタ人って?! 新しいプレーヤーの登場なの？

A: Not new.
新しくはない。

Q: Do we know them by another name?
私たちは、彼らを別の名前で知ってるのかしら？

A: Choose.
ナニ人か選びなさい。

Q: The Atlanteans? Were the Celts of India at war with the Atlanteans in the Atlantic?
アトランティス人なの？インドに居たケルト人が、大西洋でアトランティス人と戦ってたの？

A: Atlantis was merely a home base of an advanced civilisation of 3 races of humans occupying different sections of a huge Island empire, which, in itself, underwent 3 incarnations over a 100,000 year period as you would measure it.
アトランティスというのは、巨大島国帝国のそれぞれ別々の地区を占めていた3つの人種から成る進んだ文明の本拠地の名前に過ぎない。そして、このアトランティス帝国自体、あなた方の時間で10万年以上掛かって、3度の転生を経験した。

Q: The 3 races were the Celts... and who were the second and third?
その3民族というのは、ケルト人と．．．あと2番目と3番目は何人？

A: Or Kantekkians.
ないしはカンテック人。

Q: Are the Kantekkians different from the Celts?
カンテック人はケルト人とは別なの？

A: Only in the sense of long term racial and genetic blending.
カンテック人も地球に来てから長い時間が経つうち、他民族と人種的、遺伝子的に混淆してケルト人になったんだ。

Q: So, Atlantis had the Kantekkians and who else?
それじゃあ、アトランティス人というのは、カンテック人と、あと誰だったの？

A: Race you would call "Native Americans," and a third, no longer existing race, somewhat resembling Australian or Guinean aborigines, only lighter in complexion.
あなた方が「ネイティブ・アメリカン」と呼ぶ人種と、それから、3番目は、もはや存在していない人種で、幾分、今、オーストラリアやギニアに住んでいるアボリジニに似ていた。ただ、顔色はもっと明るかった。

Q: Was this third group destroyed by the other two?
第3グループの人々は、他の2つによって滅ぼされたの？

A: One of the 3 cataclysms.
3度の天変地異のうちの1つで。

Q: Paranthas. Who were the Paranthas?
パランタ人は？パランタ人というのは誰だったの？

A: Nation of race mentioned above.
上の議論で出てきた、滅んでしまった民族の国。

Q: So, the Paranthas were the antecedents of the Abos of Australia?
それじゃあ、パランタ人というのは、オーストラリアのアボの先祖なのね？

A: Yes,
and compare to now existing peoples of India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Australia, and New Guinea for similarities, bearing in mind genetic mixing and dilution.
インド、パキスタン、スリランカ、オーストラリア、ニューギニアに現在存在する種族に似ている。遺伝子の混淆によって薄まっている点には留意する必要があるが。

Q: Were the Vedas written by the Paranthas or written by the Celts?
ヴェーダはパランタ人が書いたの？それとも、ケルト人？

A: Descendants of Parantha, as per "Divine guidance."
パランタ人の子孫が、「神の導き」を受けて書いた。

Q: That explains a LOT. I was just thinking about it the other day. If these people in India are related to the Celts, as philologists would have us believe due to language roots, there is no way I can understand this because they are simply NOTHING like them in any way. … Okay,
それで大方説明がつくわね。先日まさに、そのことを考えてたのよ。言語学者が私たちに言語発生論的に信じ込ませようとしてる＝インド人がケルト人と繋がりがあるという説は、どうしても理解できないのよね。だって、どう見たって彼らは、ケルト人らしくないんだもの。いい加減にしてほしいわ！卑屈で、狡猾、こびへつらう人種で、ケルト人とは似ても似つかないのよ。

So bizarrely different!
奇妙なぐらい違うわ！

Okay,
I think that you said that this nuclear war happened something like 50,000 years ago. We have taken care of a couple of points; we have 3 races on Atlantis, Celts all over the place... did the Celts conquer the Atlanteans?
あなたたち、この核戦争が起こったのは、50,000年くらい前だと言ってたわよね。これで２，３の点の説明がついたわ；アトランティスには3つの種族が居た、ケルト人は到る所に居た、と。。。。ケルト人がアトランティスを征服したの？

A: No.

Q: Did they just move in and hang out?
彼らはただ行ったり来たりブラブラしてたの？

A: They took over the Northern section.
彼らは北部区域を占領した。

Q: At the same time, there were Celts in the Caucasus, along the Baltic, in Ireland, England and Europe...
同時にケルト人は、コーカサスやバルト海沿岸諸国、アイルランド、イギリス、ヨーロッパ。。。にも居た。。。

A: Ireland, England, etc. was later.
アイルランドやイギリス等々というのは、後のことだ。

Q: But there were in the Norse lands, as Sweden, Norway and Denmark, they were along the Baltic, and they were in the Caucasus?
でも、スウェーデン、ノルウェーのスカンジナビア諸国や、デンマークにも居たんでしょ？バルト海諸国や、コーカサスにも？

A: Some above mentioned areas were ice covered.
あなたが言った中のいくつかは、氷に覆われていた。

Q: When the philologists track the language roots, they arrive at the Kurgan region, north and west of the Caucasus. Is that where the Celts went when Atlantis was destroyed?
言語学者が言語的ルーツを辿って行くうち、コーカサスの北部及び西部を占めるクルガン地域に行き着いたのよ。アトランティスが滅んだとき、ケルト人はここに向かったの？

A: Close.

Q: Were the Celts the tall blonds known as the 'Sons of Anak,' who ruled over the Sumerians as described by Sitchen?
ケルト人とは、民数記の「アナクの子孫」として知られる、背の高いブロンドのことでしょ？彼らが、シッチンの言ったように、シュメール人を支配したのね？

A: "Celts" are what remains of the original prototype.
「ケルト人」は、オリジナル・プロトタイプの生き残りだ。

Q: Okay.
Kantekkians. When did...
カンテック人よね。いつ、。。。

A: Gravity differences account for the height difference
惑星間の重力の違いのため、高地に棲むことになった。

Q: When did the Kantekkians, or Celts or whatever arrive on the Canary Islands?
いつ、そのカンテック人だかケルト人だか何とかはカナリア諸島に着いたの？

A: 12,000 years ago.

Q: Did they arrive there from Atlantis directly?
彼らは、アトランティスから直接やって来たの？

A: Close.

Q: Where from?
どこからなの？

A: Confused by trauma.
トラウマのせいで混乱していた。

Q: What does that mean?
どういう意味？

A: Guess.
当ててみなさい。

Q: Did they come from underground?
地下からやって来たとか？

A: Some.
幾らかは。

Q: Were they part of the underground race?
彼らは、地下種族の一部だったの？

A: No Laura.
What "trauma" do you think we are referring to??
私たちが言ってるのは、どんな「トラウマ」のことだと思う??

Q: The comet cluster? The Flood of Noah?
彗星群？ノアの洪水？

A: Close enough.
大体そんなところだ。
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“Tsugaru-soto-sangun-shi” describes how the Korpokkur (Asobe) and the Ainu (Tsuboke) came to Japan. This Korpokkur may be a survivor of the Paranthas.
東日流外三郡誌には、コロボックル（Asobe）とアイヌ（Tsuboke）が日本にやってきた経緯が述べられています。このコロボックルというのは、パランタ人の生き残りかもしれないですね。
 
Who ruled the Americas before Columbus? For years we’ve been taught that the Americas were sparsely populated by primitive peoples who lived in such harmony with nature that they were nearly invisible. Then Europeans came with their guns, destroying both nature, Native Americans, and Native American culture. New evidence from a surprising source shows this stereotype to be wrong. The source? Mainstream archaeology. (with Ken Ham and Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson)


One interesting thing he says is that Neanderthals were survivors of ancient cataclysms.
 
Laura said:
Who ruled the Americas before Columbus? For years we’ve been taught that the Americas were sparsely populated by primitive peoples who lived in such harmony with nature that they were nearly invisible. Then Europeans came with their guns, destroying both nature, Native Americans, and Native American culture. New evidence from a surprising source shows this stereotype to be wrong. The source? Mainstream archaeology. (with Ken Ham and Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson)


One interesting thing he says is that Neanderthals were survivors of ancient cataclysms.
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Now, hey, I'm in an environment where I can't watch the video, but it's also true that the book is a lie.

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Laura said:
One interesting thing he says is that Neanderthals were survivors of ancient cataclysms.
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Here's part two, FWIW:


He explains complex genetic studies in simple terms, so people can understand the significance of all these mainstream studies. For me, the most interesting concept is that flat lines in the genetic family tree are the smoking guy of massive die-offs of people. It's not like the world's population have been growing steadily. It's just that at specific points there was a massive die-off and this shows as a flattened line in the global genetic family tree. He illustrates that the Amerindians were dying massively for already 200 years prior to Columbus arrival in the late 1400s. Prior to that, Amerindians were steadily growing after 500 AD. He gives the example of encountering survivors in a concentration camp in Germany in WWII and thinking that they're primitive people. Actually, it's more like they're only survivors. Studies show that the Ecuadorian rain forest is relatively new. Before Columbus arrival, it was all cultivated land for maize.

He's trying to extrapolate this smoking gun to understand the world's history:


I got his book to see if there are more clues that can be surmised:

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Laura said:
One interesting thing he says is that Neanderthals were survivors of ancient cataclysms.
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Watched part 10 and 11. It was interesting how Jeanson develops the family tree (note - with a creationist backdrop) while referencing the flatline and how that graphs out. That part was well done. He has it that that the genetics (Native Americans) originated - or were replaced by DBA signature groups from the south, and my mind was on that land bridge in the north. Had forgotten what the C's had said that the Native American's were transferred from the north, it was not a walkabout migration over the bridge 15,000 years ago as per current thinking:

Q: (L) What is the source of the Native American Indians?

A: Asia.

Q: (L) Across the Bering Strait?

A: No. Rescued. Transferred.

Q: (L) By whom?

A: Grays.

Q: (L) What were they rescued out of?

A: Cataclysm.
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The timing was "7200 years ago" also said by the C's. Of course, Jeanson could not possibly factor in the "Recued. Transferred" part, although his DNA sampling seems not to touch on Asia as understood, or it does and he can't make that connection for unknown reasons - or two groups separated came together and interbreed, with the latter washed out the generational DNA signal. He does sort of get close on the connected ladder of the DNA tree to the Eskimos, if remembered, yet they are on opposite sides from the connected south people on the DNA tree.

Will check out Jeanson's other videos as what he says is interesting and may add to what was missed.

Have a question related to million year-old dated comet strikes that could be moved 'way up' in time. Has this ever been been mentioned by the C's (i.e., such and such is more recent)? Searched and did not find a reference and may have not found it. Have an impact candidate for this that has not been well surveyed, not mentioned in the forum - some drilling has provided a date, yet wonder if this date is in fact correct. It is just a working hypothesis presently that might explain the rescue and some other details, it may come to not, too.
 
Laura said:
Who ruled the Americas before Columbus?
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A sprawling society with pyramids, moats, and “forest islands” thrived from 500 to 1400 A.D. in the Bolivian Amazon.

The ruins of a vast ancient civilization that has remained hidden under the densely forested landscape of the Bolivian Amazon for centuries has now been mapped out in unprecedented detail by lasers shot from a helicopter, reports a new study.
The immense settlements stretch across some 80 square miles of the Llanos de Mojos region of Bolivia and include pyramids, causeways, canals, ramparts, elevated “forest islands,” and buildings arranged in ways that hint at cosmological worldview. The structures were built by the Casarabe culture, an Indigenous population that flourished from 500 to 1400 A.D. and came to inhabit some 1,700 square miles of the Amazon rainforest. The find is “mind blowing,” according to one member of the research team.

While field expeditions and Indigenous knowledge have previously shed light on this region’s lost settlements, a remote-sensing technique called Light Detection and Ranging (LIDAR) has now exposed the enormous extent and tantalizing complexity of this civilization.

 
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Voyageur said:
The timing was "7200 years ago" also said by the C's.
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Indeed, and it seems so too according to the latest @Pierre's book: Cometary Encounters. For those cataclysms involved for this period of time, one could read page 139 the Chapter "The 7,200 BP (5,200 BC) Event" in the Part III: "Volcanoes, Erathquakes and the 3,600-Year Comet Cycle". Excerpt:

Despite a scarcity of archeological sites for this period of time, one can find the marks left by the 7,200 BP event on human activity. One of those sites is Çatalhöyük, Turkey, which was founded ca. 9,500 BP and flourished for 23 centuries until its abandonment ca. 7,200 BP.

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Figure 118: © NiglayNik
Covered excavation site at Çatalhöyük​

While Çatalhöyük is the most notable, several other Neolithic sites were abandoned or destroyed around the same time.

In Hacilar, Turkey, a Neolithic fortified village was built on top of a mound. The location was in close proximity to an active geological fault468and was destroyed ca. 7,200.

The Halaf culture started ca. 8,000 BP and developed for eight centuries on a vast territory comprising southeastern Turkey, Syria and northern Iraq. The Halaf culture ended ca. 7,200 BP when many Halafians settlements were abandoned. This is also the case, for example, of the Yarim Tepe site in Iraq, which collapsed ca. 7,200 BP after about one millennium of occupation.

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Figure 119: © StevanB
Excavation of Yarim Tepe​

The collapse of Neolithic sites ca. 7,200 BP was not limited to the Middle East, however. The site of Ban Rai, Vietnam, is a large rock shelter that was used by humans from 10,600 BP until its abandonment in 7,200 BP after 34 centuries of activity.

The Chertovy Vorota Cave in Russia – occupied by humans for 22 centuries – was also abandoned at this time. Similarly, in China, the culture of Xinglongwa is the first sedentary culture in Asia. It flourished for ten centuries before ending ca. 7,200 BP.
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