The Road (2009)
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Steve M.
Jedi Master
Hi Deedlet,
Well, he has been exposed to as much through my words with him. I try to share with him the potential hardships that are possible. I'm more concerned with giving him a glimpse of reality than I am with General movie rating systems (or whatever it is called). I mat not be able to offer feedback in reply to your concern, as it is a rather tricky situation. The point I was trying to make with him is neither he nor I have ever seen hard times. The movie depicts some pretty hard times and so I thought that would give him an incentive to get through situations that might seem difficult. Compared to the movie - little is very difficult these days.
Does that make sense? BTW, there was adult supervision around (my wife, not me
).
Edit: I'm not sure what your age is or if you can get into his shoes. He has certainly not had an easy life and been exposed to a lot of things. Some has been traumatic.
From my perspective sharing it might have provided a jolt for the positive. And if it does depict a possible future reality - foresight might offer a way to forearm(?). This was at least what was going on in my mind and what I told him before we watched.
Well, he has been exposed to as much through my words with him. I try to share with him the potential hardships that are possible. I'm more concerned with giving him a glimpse of reality than I am with General movie rating systems (or whatever it is called). I mat not be able to offer feedback in reply to your concern, as it is a rather tricky situation. The point I was trying to make with him is neither he nor I have ever seen hard times. The movie depicts some pretty hard times and so I thought that would give him an incentive to get through situations that might seem difficult. Compared to the movie - little is very difficult these days.
Does that make sense? BTW, there was adult supervision around (my wife, not me
). Edit: I'm not sure what your age is or if you can get into his shoes. He has certainly not had an easy life and been exposed to a lot of things. Some has been traumatic.
From my perspective sharing it might have provided a jolt for the positive. And if it does depict a possible future reality - foresight might offer a way to forearm(?). This was at least what was going on in my mind and what I told him before we watched.
knowledge_of_self
The Living Force
Balberon said:Hi Deedlet,
Well, he has been exposed to as much through my words with him. I try to share with him the potential hardships that are possible. I'm more concerned with giving him a glimpse of reality than I am with General movie rating systems (or whatever it is called). I mat not be able to offer feedback in reply to your concern, as it is a rather tricky situation. The point I was trying to make with him is neither he nor I have ever seen hard times. The movie depicts some pretty hard times and so I thought that would give him an incentive to get through situations that might seem difficult. Compared to the movie - little is very difficult these days.
Does that make sense? BTW, there was adult supervision around (my wife, not me
Edit: I'm not sure what your age is or if you can get into his shoes. He has certainly not had an easy life and been exposed to a lot of things. Some has been traumatic.
From my perspective sharing it might have provided a jolt for the positive. And if it does depict a possible future reality - foresight might offer a way to forearm(?). This was at least what was going on in my mind and what I told him before we watched.
Hey Balberon,
Yeah that totally makes sense and I understand. I was actually thinking about it, and after thinking about it I'm honestly not sure why I was surprised because kids these days have a lot more threshold for violence and different things due to video games and TV. I think it's good that you're introducing him to these ideas as I believe it's the right thing to do for adults at this point in time on Earth. As the C's also said, children should know these things..
And anyway you're the parent and you would know better than anyone if your child is or isn't ready to watch certain things. But thank you for the response, I appreciate your explanation. :)
Mrs.Tigersoap
The Living Force
Deedlet said:
It's been roughly 9 months that I've seen this movie and I still think regularly about it and these scenes. Tigersoap bought the book but there is no way I'm putting myself through that again.
Balberon said:
You are welcome. I needed to share after the ordeal, I guess :D
dannybananny
Jedi Council Member
You can watch it here online or download it if you like _http://www.movie2k.com/movies.php?list=searchnew534 but I don't know if in the other versions scene of cannibalism is cut, in this i watched it was.
One thing that was only thing that was disturbing is these scene with cannibalism, other then that nothing new here(I probably got used what awaits me and I don't live any more in dreamworld, been thinking how it would be to lose your family members, comets hitting, invasion coming if I don't make it, being sliced by 4D STS so I would better pull the trigger then experience that ), but the end had some positive in it so I let tear or two. It reminded me of mad max movie. This with black guy scene, they didn't really helped him, he left and who knows what happened to him and his father said he would probably die, this was excuse, if you look it at that way in the end they all will die faster than usually because of lack of food, etc..., it's only a matter of time, I would share with him what I have - 50:50, or ask him to join, if there is more people it's safer but always there could be some psycho or patho and he could take advantage so it's risky. Good example of concentrating on survival - on you body, STS view of world, in the end his father died and didn't do so positive things, and you can ask yourself was it worth it to do that what he did for few more months or years but it's understandable what they did, if I don't have some knowledge I don't know what would I do. But in reality you would have invasion that would deal with rest of survivors and C's said the planet would become gas, inhabitable planet so in the real situation there would be no chances of survival if you stay on 3D, so wife did right choice concentrating more on soul then body unless you want to live to experience more and stay as much as positive but either way you want live long, luckily we have some knowledge and actors in the movie did "good" when you take that in consideration(there is much fear for survival because of not knowing that it isn't the end), and kid was most moral but that was because he was a kid(more in touch with his soul), life would change him probably(but not definitively) and he would become more like his father if he was older. Emotionally it must have been hard for his father to lose family member, i I know it would be to me. Father got blood poisoning from arrow but if he used fire to burn his wound he could have stopped infection. It's also awkward that that guy with arrows attacked him, maybe it was from fear but he saw he had kid and he could stay quiet and they would gone or try to talk with them, on the other hand maybe he wanted to eat them but in the end i think father had right for self defense but could yell that he doesn't wants to hurt them before firing a gun. But it's interesting how some people get overwhelmed in this situations by their predator mind, others aren't nothing then predators and there are little people that stay faithful to themselves, that is that people with souls, and if they don't have knowledge that people are very advance souls. I wondered recently when I saw a bunch of people on wedding how would they treat you if things weren't so nice, the animal nature of which Freud talked would probably take over, and we call ourselves civilized.
I haven't seen the Road film, but I did watch a current affair program on Sunday, which mentioned the film. The program showed what some families were planning for such a world eventuating. This is the link and the actual article is titled Future Fear.
_http://www.sbs.com.au/dateline/
_http://www.sbs.com.au/dateline/
Bernhard
Jedi Master
I saw that film today and while I can see how viewers my be shocked at the grim picture of it all, I still thought it was a movie very well done, story and acting wise, also from a psychological point of view and in regards to father-son relationship. I cried a bit here and there and it was emotionally challenging for me to watch it through (had to take some breaks), but there were some interesting insights as well. Overall it's a movie I'd recommend.
!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!
It seems to me that the dad was so overly focused on survival mode (stuck in 3D way of thinking) that he didn't see the signs (grace) when he softened up and actually surrendered, like when he found the food cellar after he cried and wept, but he always tried to appear "strong" so his son and "surviving at all cost". His kid seemed to counterbalance that with his "good heart" and trying to help the "good" people, but the dad was tunnel-visioned only on himself and his son. That is understandable considering that they may get caught by cannibals at any given moment, but his lack in Faith he had in the "Universe" that presented him lessons he didn't recognize seemed to be his downfall. That's at least as I saw it.
It as also interesting to note that at the end after the dad died and the boy was "found" by another family to help him, the women said they have been following him and his dad, but maybe didn't interfere (may take on it), because his Dad seemed also somewhat dangerous despite the love for his son and certainly didn't want any help (STO - don't give until asked). Of course the asking doesn't have to be literal but can be pure intent (or by helping others) and we know what the C's said about the power of intent. It is not fully clear in the end why they followed them, but didn't approached them, or just followed him on the beach.
I also wonder if the the other kid the boy saw at one point belonged to that family. The boys intuition told him to connect with him, but his dad didn't even acknowledged that there was a kid and kept him from going after him. So it could be that they had been followed for a while, but were not open enough to "receive" (his Dad at least) support and help.
On and all, it may be that the kid survived and found help because he "vibrated" on a STO frequency through the purity of his heart and showed the "Universe" that he still had faith. It certainly didn't come from wishful thinking, as he as seen the horror of what people are capable of, when locked in pure physical self-centered survival mode (STS).
Just my two cents....
!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!
It seems to me that the dad was so overly focused on survival mode (stuck in 3D way of thinking) that he didn't see the signs (grace) when he softened up and actually surrendered, like when he found the food cellar after he cried and wept, but he always tried to appear "strong" so his son and "surviving at all cost". His kid seemed to counterbalance that with his "good heart" and trying to help the "good" people, but the dad was tunnel-visioned only on himself and his son. That is understandable considering that they may get caught by cannibals at any given moment, but his lack in Faith he had in the "Universe" that presented him lessons he didn't recognize seemed to be his downfall. That's at least as I saw it.
It as also interesting to note that at the end after the dad died and the boy was "found" by another family to help him, the women said they have been following him and his dad, but maybe didn't interfere (may take on it), because his Dad seemed also somewhat dangerous despite the love for his son and certainly didn't want any help (STO - don't give until asked). Of course the asking doesn't have to be literal but can be pure intent (or by helping others) and we know what the C's said about the power of intent. It is not fully clear in the end why they followed them, but didn't approached them, or just followed him on the beach.
I also wonder if the the other kid the boy saw at one point belonged to that family. The boys intuition told him to connect with him, but his dad didn't even acknowledged that there was a kid and kept him from going after him. So it could be that they had been followed for a while, but were not open enough to "receive" (his Dad at least) support and help.
On and all, it may be that the kid survived and found help because he "vibrated" on a STO frequency through the purity of his heart and showed the "Universe" that he still had faith. It certainly didn't come from wishful thinking, as he as seen the horror of what people are capable of, when locked in pure physical self-centered survival mode (STS).
Just my two cents....
Mrs.Tigersoap
The Living Force
Spiral out said:
It was also my take on it, that they had been following the boy and father for a while, because when they find the food cellar and hide in it, at some point the father wants to leave because he heard a dog (probably in his mind, a dog means people and people are dangerous and cannibals). And we see on the beach that the following family has a dog. So maybe they were already following them when they were at the food cellar. The father, since he was so scared of people eating them/the boy, could have reasoned that people with a dog were maybe unlikely to be of the cannibalistic kind: people so desperate for meat would probably eat the dog first, IMO.
Meager1
Dagobah Resident
Or, they could simply have kept the dog because the dog was better at sniffing out other people, and finding things that they themselves might miss without ever seeing.
Like the food cellar.
The boy was at the "mercy" of the new family, no doubt about that.
The saving grace, or what I thought was the saving grace in the new family was the fact that there was a woman in the group..and she seemed to be the child "gatherer" more so then her mate, who gave the simple directions of what to do if the boy wanted to stay on his own. One of my own programs about women being safer to be with though, no doubt.
Like the food cellar.
The boy was at the "mercy" of the new family, no doubt about that.
The saving grace, or what I thought was the saving grace in the new family was the fact that there was a woman in the group..and she seemed to be the child "gatherer" more so then her mate, who gave the simple directions of what to do if the boy wanted to stay on his own. One of my own programs about women being safer to be with though, no doubt.
Wunjo
Padawan Learner
The Road
Wow. Just saw The Road. To me it was pretty rough, just dealing with the emotions it brought up. I felt it was an accurate portrayal of the end of the world in a more realistic sense which makes it all the scarier. No wise heroes overthrowing villains, just regular humans fighting starvation. It brought into a greater relief my level of childishness regarding my thoughts about life and attachments. Fear of knowing the whole world is dead but you keep on trying to survive for survival sake with no end in sight, just pushing past the dead and dying for years on end. The end of the world has been on my mind for years but always with some concept of some victory coming out of it, not really a slow painful death. Anybody else have any reactions or thoughts?
Thank You
Wow. Just saw The Road. To me it was pretty rough, just dealing with the emotions it brought up. I felt it was an accurate portrayal of the end of the world in a more realistic sense which makes it all the scarier. No wise heroes overthrowing villains, just regular humans fighting starvation. It brought into a greater relief my level of childishness regarding my thoughts about life and attachments. Fear of knowing the whole world is dead but you keep on trying to survive for survival sake with no end in sight, just pushing past the dead and dying for years on end. The end of the world has been on my mind for years but always with some concept of some victory coming out of it, not really a slow painful death. Anybody else have any reactions or thoughts?
Thank You
Hey Wunjo, I merged your thread with the one started earlier. :)
Very sad, depressing movie. I was afraid it'd leave no light, no hope, so appreciated the end as it was. Could be much darker...
Very sad, depressing movie. I was afraid it'd leave no light, no hope, so appreciated the end as it was. Could be much darker...
I'm usually a fan of distopian films, and I even like some movies that are dark, but The Road was horrific. I thought it was well made but like Mrs. Tigersoap, the images and scenes haunt me. While there was a little bit of hope in the movie, I thought it was extremely grim. It was a seemingly accurate portrayal of what one earth could look like one day. And in terms of conscience and emotional feeding, the film seems a near accurate symbol of our world today. But still, I had a hard time with it. I suppose what affected me so much was that while the individual human spirit pressed on, the collective human spirit felt like it hadn't survived.
shellycheval
The Living Force
One of the more likely scenarios for post-apocalypse "life"--one day the lights go out and you never really know for sure what happened and how far it extends because in real life there is no omniscient narrator who reveals the big picture and explains it all to you. This movie is like a punch in the gut--a painful, but potent wake-up to very real possibilities for the near future. It certainly makes one pray to be at ground-zero and vaporized at the beginning. The book is better--even more visceral, but at the same time written in a beautiful poetic prose style that works by contrast to emphasize the horror.
shellycheval
I watched this movie. frankly I watched only half in normal pace. I felt intense depression and ended up doing the pipe breathing, which calmed me down. Only after week later, I got the time to watch the remaining, I simply skimmed through it. I was scared to watch the remaining. Most depressing movie after a long time, I guess. This is a drama that might have played out millions of times on this planet, due to periodic cometary bombardment nature of our reality . Those who survived might have lived like mythical noah to tell the story to the remaining generations. Cannibalism is most terrifying part of it. Occasional human feelings expressed by different characters or the memories are the opiates to continue to watch the movie. Watching the kids to be rescued at the end by another family is the best part of it. One way, this is not the first time I saw this type of depression.
There are some movies I saw based on poverty in india and family suffering , when watched with narcissists mind can create this type of impressions.
There are some movies I saw based on poverty in india and family suffering , when watched with narcissists mind can create this type of impressions.
At the weekend I´ve watched this film, and at the end I was distraught about the story, my
first thought was, oh no this is something we possibly have to go through. I knew the future is open,
but such films make my thoughts run wild, cause it isn´t a so far-fetched idea.
The sequence were the father talk to the old survivor and the old man says, humans had better watched the sings so there had been a chance for preparedness,
and the father answers even though they had known, preparedness haven´t help them in such a situation… let me think of all my
preserving bottles and how long they will last ( Horrible ! I never could eat one of my neighbours !
).
Even though two days have passed , I have a dull feeling and trouble to deal with this
story.
I think for me it is better to read a good book, then to watch such stirring films.
first thought was, oh no this is something we possibly have to go through. I knew the future is open,
but such films make my thoughts run wild, cause it isn´t a so far-fetched idea.
The sequence were the father talk to the old survivor and the old man says, humans had better watched the sings so there had been a chance for preparedness,
and the father answers even though they had known, preparedness haven´t help them in such a situation… let me think of all my
preserving bottles and how long they will last ( Horrible ! I never could eat one of my neighbours !
).Even though two days have passed , I have a dull feeling and trouble to deal with this
story.
I think for me it is better to read a good book, then to watch such stirring films.
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