The work sub-forum

jhonny said:
... so we got all new to the forum the same thing happens to us, but sharing our thoughts and doubts of our own observation we realize that we are really going well on the way , and this can only be done with people who have already passed this process.
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Okay, you're right and I've heard it many times but thanks for repeating it again.
 
I guess that the worthiness of someone can not be really measured by how much he knows or how much he writes. And I guess that Laura and team would never start making somekind of judgment of that kind. To me is the willingness of that person to participate. To feel free to participate because that, IMHO, is part of the beginning of following the wave. To just feel like at home and just share what you know or what you are doing. Sometimes I just feel a little down but as someone said in a thread I just ask to myself. What else could I do? Doing EE and trying to self-observe is a must for me.
 
Re: Access Denied

cicero said:
As a Newbie (only 16 posts now), I don't want to appear as one who is deliberately 'making waves' (pun seriously intended), but there is something very wrong in a system where the Cs (our Mentors?) have suggested that we begin acting like we're already in 4th density, but the forum administration seems to be carrying on 'business as usual' as though we should continue to be practicing 3rd density STS where the 'access denied' policy relies on a wholly contrived premise that somehow one qualifies simply because he/she has reached a certain number of posts.
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Hello cicero,

many good advices have been given already and something comes to my mind too:

Laura said:
There is no free lunch, and if you think there is, you ARE lunch.
[...]
You get out of life what you put into it.
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Here are two videos where Laura is speaking and talking, maybe take your time and watch them:

Knowledge and being

Project Camelot Interview
 
Mixtli said:
I guess that the worthiness of someone can not be really measured by how much he knows or how much he writes. And I guess that Laura and team would never start making somekind of judgment of that kind. To me is the willingness of that person to participate. To feel free to participate because that, IMHO, is part of the beginning of following the wave. To just feel like at home and just share what you know or what you are doing. Sometimes I just feel a little down but as someone said in a thread I just ask to myself. What else could I do? Doing EE and trying to self-observe is a must for me.
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Yes, this is a very important thing to keep in mind. This can help to prevent us from judging others as more or less worthy than us. When I first started posting one of the things that really helped me was to try and help others who were having a rough time. Before I knew it, I had quite a few posts! As soon as we begin to shift our focus from ourselves to others, amazing things can result. :)
 
Plus, it give me the chance to say Thank You Thank You Thank You!

I like saying thank you when thanks are really due. I really liked the comment by Mixtli about participating, it makes me more comfortable.

Truth Seeker really capped it with her comment on "not judging" and being helpful, or at least trying to be.

This forum is quickly becoming a venue for me to be able to exercise my present knowledge of human dynamics.

"Learning IS Fun" !!!!!!!!!
 
truth seeker said:
Yes, this is a very important thing to keep in mind. This can help to prevent us from judging others as more or less worthy than us.
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In reading this thread, I've noticed what I perceive to be some confusion between use of the words "worthy" and "trustworthy" To me, asking if a poster is "worthy" implies some kind of broad character judgment whereas the concept of establishing "trustworthiness" (to a small degree) indicates taking the time to try an ascertain if a person can be "trusted" with access to semi private posts, editing features, etc.. "Is that new account a spam bot, known troll, psycho, etc.?" type of thing.

Of course a serious psycho, agent, etc could probably get past the 50 posts pretty quickly, but then a serious psycho, agent, etc. wouldn't need access to see anything he wanted on this forum...or any other.

What the low limit access requirement does do is help identify your classic crystal twink, perv looking for a date, psychic vampire, Jehovah's Witness, etc. etc. To me, all human beings are "worthy" but not all of them are worth the time it takes to read their "I made mad passionate love with a gorgeous alien from Alpha Centauri last night in my dreams...do you think I should take the Morning After Pill just in case?" posts, and I surely wouldn't trust them in a Thread were people might have posted personal details about themselves. :rolleyes:

With the kind of training and experience the Cass Team has, I'm betting they can tell an awful lot about a person after 50 posts. :D
 
opossum said:
Okay, you're right and I've heard it many times but thanks for repeating it again.
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When I'm getting to know a new group of people, the first things I want to observe is their humor, and how they view/treat their animals. To me, these are the fastest ways to spot cruelty and predation....of course your mileage may differ :-)

It's also the best way for me to share myself with whoever I'm getting to know..because they're looking for compatibility, shared values, etc. too ....or food, in which case I'm really tough to chew ;D
 
Guardian said:
truth seeker said:
Yes, this is a very important thing to keep in mind. This can help to prevent us from judging others as more or less worthy than us.
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In reading this thread, I've noticed what I perceive to be some confusion between use of the words "worthy" and "trustworthy" To me, asking if a poster is "worthy" implies some kind of broad character judgment whereas the concept of establishing "trustworthiness" (to a small degree) indicates taking the time to try an ascertain if a person can be "trusted" with access to semi private posts, editing features, etc.. "Is that new account a spam bot, known troll, psycho, etc.?" type of thing.

Of course a serious psycho, agent, etc could probably get past the 50 posts pretty quickly, but then a serious psycho, agent, etc. wouldn't need access to see anything he wanted on this forum...or any other.

What the low limit access requirement does do is help identify your classic crystal twink, perv looking for a date, psychic vampire, Jehovah's Witness, etc. etc. To me, all human beings are "worthy" but not all of them are worth the time it takes to read their "I made mad passionate love with a gorgeous alien from Alpha Centauri last night in my dreams...do you think I should take the Morning After Pill just in case?" posts, and I surely wouldn't trust them in a Thread were people might have posted personal details about themselves. :rolleyes:

With the kind of training and experience the Cass Team has, I'm betting they can tell an awful lot about a person after 50 posts. :D
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Good point Guardian! Yes, I should have put the word worthy in quotes. We can become caught in the misperception of what value and attempt to place that burden on other people. Some may be "valued" as less because they are seen as being "not as knowledgeable" or more because they are seen as "more knowledgeable". What I believe is happening is that we are really judging ourselves as not valuable enough or too valuable. This can happen an endless amount of times in a given day. We speak to someone who we perceive as being uneducated and judge them based on our own skewed view of ourselves. The reverse happens with those we perceive as intelligent.

As for the Alpha Centurian, I actually spoke with someone once who tried to convince me that this was the best experience they ever had and that I should try it! :scared:
 
And also one important thing about the forum is that it is open for anyone. And in a way all the participants are contributing even if they are not being that constructive, as everything is lessons, we can learn from the MO of "agents" and others that pass through the forum.
I have realised also that writing and reading other people s opinions or your own gets you a glimpse of your little "I"s. And the forum offers us a chance to be sincere about us and, in this way, start to aim for the goal of finding the real I. After all the forum is a reflection of our planet as a school.
 
truth seeker said:
As for the Alpha Centurian, I actually spoke with someone once who tried to convince me that this was the best experience they ever had and that I should try it! :scared:
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OMG!

Either we met the same person, or there's at least two of them :scared:

Edited to add: I'm not sure which one of those two possibilities bothers me more :huh:
 
Yes, when I asked about who is worthy, I was implying in terms of knowledge and experiences.
The posts of cicero gave me the impression that he thinks himself more worthy than other posters because he is more knowledgeable.
I had in mind that you cant discriminate against the contribution of a poster merely because he is a begginer in a given subject.
Like the moderators and Laura pointed out many times, sometimes the question that you think its foolish is what may lead a discussion in a totally unexpected, and productive turn.

I should have written with more clarity.
 
Guardian said:
When I'm getting to know a new group of people, the first things I want to observe is their humor, and how they view/treat their animals. To me, these are the fastest ways to spot cruelty and predation....of course your mileage may differ :-)
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You are right and may I add-
I've always heard that you can tell the character of a person by how they treat a waiter or servant. :cool:
 
opossum said:
I just realized that my favorite topic "the work" was unavailable to me. I know 25 more posts does not seem like a lot but it has taken me several years to get the first 25. I am trying hard not to make " noise" posts in order to be included again. I am not criticizing the decision. I would like to say that I probably would not have become a member if "the work" had not been available to me in the beginning (not that it would matter if I was not a member but I do like the forum :)). I found the forum because I was a serious Fourth Way enthusiast. I have since become interested in other areas of the forum. Why not just make "the swamp" and other more personal areas private?
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Hi opossum,

Have you tried to have a look at your favorite topic "the work" recently ?
 
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