Thinking, Fast And Slow
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shellycheval
The Living Force
Laura
As the years go by, there appears to be more and more young people in the college classroom with this type of "brain lock" or limitation--lack of system 2 thinking. Their responses are formulaic and nothing seems to stir them out of their comfort zone, apathy, or challenge their black and white, locked, belief systems. Indeed it is near impossible to get them to understand that they are full of belief systems/ideologies--acceptance of ideas without evidence, and that it is an important skill to develop critical analytical thinking skills.
At least in a class of twenty or so students there are usually at least 2-3 students who look out at me with "lively eyes" and appear to be thinking on multiple levels. Most of the others, I think, have had their higher cognitive processes underdeveloped, atrophied, and have become passive "robots" depending on technology, cell phones etc. to know what to "think." Some of them sometimes seemed to be "salvageable" if you can find a topic that has some emotional hook for them--then they seem to wake up somewhat.
shellycheval
As the years go by, there appears to be more and more young people in the college classroom with this type of "brain lock" or limitation--lack of system 2 thinking. Their responses are formulaic and nothing seems to stir them out of their comfort zone, apathy, or challenge their black and white, locked, belief systems. Indeed it is near impossible to get them to understand that they are full of belief systems/ideologies--acceptance of ideas without evidence, and that it is an important skill to develop critical analytical thinking skills.
At least in a class of twenty or so students there are usually at least 2-3 students who look out at me with "lively eyes" and appear to be thinking on multiple levels. Most of the others, I think, have had their higher cognitive processes underdeveloped, atrophied, and have become passive "robots" depending on technology, cell phones etc. to know what to "think." Some of them sometimes seemed to be "salvageable" if you can find a topic that has some emotional hook for them--then they seem to wake up somewhat.
shellycheval
Psalehesost
The Living Force
Laura said:
Apart from characteropathy through brain injury, and imprinting that puts a strangehold on higher cognitive processes, I thought of one other thing with regard to this.
By now we know the impact gluten and dairy can have on thinking, this having been discussed and researched. I remember reading (don't know where the post is) that the inflammation caused reduces blood flow to the neocortex. As such, it would reduce the functioning of System 2. People react in different ways and with differing severity, but here might be a further key to the dumbing down of many - in those whose brains are most impacted, higher brain circuits are literally shut off as a consequence of what they eat. Then, the emotional part of their brain is left to run their life.
lilies
The Living Force
Luck management
Google's story, what factors contributed to success and how much talent was there and how luck played a role.
Arriving to page 196 this whole phenomenon made me think:
Kahneman gives a considerable weight to luck and "unseen forces" [my words] in his explanations about the performance of golfer's, athletes' and companies that the success / failure ratio naturally balances toward the mean.
Terms of the Work, the three forces and the esoteric pendulum came to my mind. These are natural processes and are okay.
However regarding luck, what produces luck, what drives luck, when does luck appear, especially in Google's case and similar success stories that turned out to have an enormous effect on the life of humanity I couldn't help, but think about this:
Session 941022
It's as if luck and strange accidents sketch out a large God's hand reaching into the Laboratory Glovebox to make the necessary modifications for the Grand Experiment to continue the way that pleases the Unseen Controllers .
Google's story, what factors contributed to success and how much talent was there and how luck played a role.
Arriving to page 196 this whole phenomenon made me think:
Kahneman gives a considerable weight to luck and "unseen forces" [my words] in his explanations about the performance of golfer's, athletes' and companies that the success / failure ratio naturally balances toward the mean.
Terms of the Work, the three forces and the esoteric pendulum came to my mind. These are natural processes and are okay.
However regarding luck, what produces luck, what drives luck, when does luck appear, especially in Google's case and similar success stories that turned out to have an enormous effect on the life of humanity I couldn't help, but think about this:
Session 941022
It's as if luck and strange accidents sketch out a large God's hand reaching into the Laboratory Glovebox to make the necessary modifications for the Grand Experiment to continue the way that pleases the Unseen Controllers .
lilies
The Living Force
Finally finished. Contestant for the most boring book I ever read. Compared to this Ponerology was an exciting page-turner. Maybe Kahneman did an excellent job to make these subjects interesting, judging from the sources he cites.
Toward the end of the reading I observed an interesting effect: a feeling of rising above the agonizing boredom surrounding these statistical topics and became hungry for something more.
Toward the end of the reading I observed an interesting effect: a feeling of rising above the agonizing boredom surrounding these statistical topics and became hungry for something more.
Buddy
The Living Force
lilies said:
Kahneman and Tversky repeatedly made the mistake of challenging Gerd Gigerenzer's work. In answering that challenge in order to set the record straight, Gerd was forced to point out how legitimacy is gained by some psychological studies that create the problems they find. Here is just one of his papers that address that issue:
Gigerenzer, Gerd. "On Narrow Norms and Vague Heuristics: A Reply to Kahneman and Tversky." Psychological Review 103 (1996): 592-96.
_http://library.mpib-berlin.mpg.de/ft/gg/GG_On%20Narrow_1996.pdf
Palinurus
The Living Force
I checked the whole thread albeit cursory and obliquely but didn't find the following video about Kahneman's work:
happyliza
The Living Force
I don't know whether anyone else has come across this yet, but I have just watched a Ted Talk that happened to be sent to me on Facebook. It turns out that it is a very humorous, yet serious example of the use of Algorithms. Funnily enough it is about how this Jewish lady overcame dating sites and used her own algorithms to keep emotions out of the picture - intuition too, as Daniel Kahnemann recommends.
I am sure she has based her method on this book!
I am not looking at dating sites! But would be an interesting experiment if FOTCM forum could come up with a method of using such algorithms to cast an accurate net to help those like-minded people find us that have not yet managed to do so before TSHTF. There are many people joining us now so perhaps many people have also been searching but not found the right lighthouse yet? Could it be possible to use algorithms as a Lighthouse project?
It certainly sounds STO to me....n'est pas?
This lady certainly went about her search the right way and loves crunching probabilities so perhaps she may be able to give us a few pointers? She is a consultant and the video proves her success!
Anyway enjoy the video - it certainly gives another dimension to the examples in the book.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tedtalks/amy-webb-ted-online-dating_b_5460048.html
I am sure she has based her method on this book!
I am not looking at dating sites! But would be an interesting experiment if FOTCM forum could come up with a method of using such algorithms to cast an accurate net to help those like-minded people find us that have not yet managed to do so before TSHTF. There are many people joining us now so perhaps many people have also been searching but not found the right lighthouse yet? Could it be possible to use algorithms as a Lighthouse project?
It certainly sounds STO to me....n'est pas?
This lady certainly went about her search the right way and loves crunching probabilities so perhaps she may be able to give us a few pointers? She is a consultant and the video proves her success!
Anyway enjoy the video - it certainly gives another dimension to the examples in the book.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tedtalks/amy-webb-ted-online-dating_b_5460048.html
know_yourself_1234
Jedi
I stumbled upon this "riddle", in the first post of the thread; I would like to solve it by myself and understand...
I would like to ask you if, in this case, "one machine produces one widget", or are the 5 widgets the general output of the 5 machine's work.
Thank you!
curious_richard
Jedi Master
If it takes 9 months for 9 women to make 9 babies, how long would it take 100 women to make 100 babies?
How many women would be needed to make 100 babies in one month?
This kind of question and answer is actually useful in business planning. Some things can not be done quicker no matter how many people you throw at it. And it is a fact that with too many people, the work goes slower. Always. There is always a best number of workers for a task, and it is usually better to have fewer than more.
How many women would be needed to make 100 babies in one month?
This kind of question and answer is actually useful in business planning. Some things can not be done quicker no matter how many people you throw at it. And it is a fact that with too many people, the work goes slower. Always. There is always a best number of workers for a task, and it is usually better to have fewer than more.
I would like to share with you a very interesting and insightful article, and equally useful lecture on the topic of "recognizing and managing cognitive errors". The big catch is, that both the article and the video are intended for veterinary students and practitioners. But I still think that it could be useful for others too, if they would simply substitute "making diagnosis" with "making decisions".
Basically, the authors of the article (and one of them is speaking in the video) took ideas presented in Daniel Kahneman's work, and applied them to veterinary medicine, particularly the art of making a proper diagnosis. What's good about the article, that it gives concrete examples to each bias and cognitive error, and not only medical ones, but also those that general public can understand. And there are quotes by Sherlock Holmes! ;)
Anyways, maybe someone will find it interesting.
Basically, the authors of the article (and one of them is speaking in the video) took ideas presented in Daniel Kahneman's work, and applied them to veterinary medicine, particularly the art of making a proper diagnosis. What's good about the article, that it gives concrete examples to each bias and cognitive error, and not only medical ones, but also those that general public can understand. And there are quotes by Sherlock Holmes! ;)
Anyways, maybe someone will find it interesting.
Skyalmian
Jedi Council Member
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