Tigersoap said:
On another note, the specific theme of the show, apocalypse/zombies got me thinking that we are as much being primed by the show to dismiss such events as make believe, we are as much part of the experiment as the person in the show osit.
I've also been struck by the theme of comets and their bringing along viruses that effect disease resulting in zombies. I find it mind-boggling every time I notice it how the (matrix) control system moves in for damage control, how it steps in continuously to counter every bit of truth which has been made public on the theme of what awaits this world in terms of cosmic house-cleaning. While it does seem to work as a dismissive force for uninformed people, I think it would just as well work as a seeding process for people who're at least in some way receptive/responsive to these levels - just like the dynamic of 'evil does eventually do good despite its contrary intentions'. (Hope that makes sense.)
Alada said:
Nuke said:
Now I wonder : If you don't know that you are going to get hypnotized, would you be still able to fight it ? If the "seduction/suggestion" cames slowly, step by step, would one even realize that he is getting "hacked" ?
But we
have already been hypnotized slowly, bit by bit – by life itself. All that we identify with, the things we desire, the things we fear, the programs we run in response. I think it adds up to pretty much the same thing, sleep, a state of hypnosis, the ‘terror of the situation’.
I agree. When watching it, I was especially struck by how well it depicts our collective situation of how thoroughly and easily we've been programmed and are made to believe the themes we've been being fed our entire lives in every aspect of life, and completely identify with what's been written on our hardware. The implications are... somehow beyond adequate words to me.
no-man's-land said:
Another thing is, as others already mentioned, how long this shock will last? We all know that sleep comes in rather quickly again. I am not even sure if he really grasped what was happening. The impression i had was the he constantly looked overcharged, somewhat disconnected from reality. I think, 2 days are way to less to let such a situation really sink in and cause major changes within the person. He constantly lived a shock and then, before real changes took place, he was released.
I had the same impression. Apart from the very probable possibility of it being a complete fake, whenever I switched to the mode of assuming it was for real, the guy struck me as pretty emotionally shallow and disconnected, as you've also pointed out, no-man's-land. And as others have pointed out, the depiction of him having 'developed' a sense of responsibility and caring for others didn't compute with his behaviour. Even if it was real, his behaviour was full of discrepancies regarding these aspects; he was imo still primarily thinking of himself and he had to be pushed and things had to be pointed out to him for him to be seemingly acting along the lines of 'service to others'.
I had the same thoughts concerning the length of the experiment and how the depiction of him having truly changed was ludicrous, given for one, as to what we know about man the machine, and how, even if it was real, there was not the slightest chance of processing what has happened, and integrating it. The relief from the situation came much too fast for anything of substance to sink in.
no-man's-land said:
But the theme also was very interesting. Why a meteor shower combined with a zombie apocalypse? Derren Brown sure have a good sense of humor, but how would Steve react, if this happens for real, now that he gone through a similar shock? Will he even belief it?
I don't think that Derren Brown has a good sense of humor - what could be humorous about manipulating someone and depicting it as beneficial? (Assuming he actually did manipulate the guy for real.)
But it's an interesting question you're posing about how Steve would react to being faced with the reality of experiencing a meteor strike. Don't know the answer, but as I mentioned above, I think some people would be primed to not believe what's happening and not being able to deal with it due to the PTB's specific priming of the masses, but in some people a strong enough seed may have been planted for them to better react to what is,
because they have been exposed to the possibility of the reality of such a situation to be happening, and because they had a certain fertile ground/internal set-up for it to take roots.
