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[RAJAWANG]

Although there are many signs everywhere directing to a probable (bad) future, I chose to think that all of them are a sort of a ground work prior to the coming of the Wave. No worries at all, and I don't think it's gonna happen this year. One thing that will happen in November, my opinion is: Obama will get re-elected, as I believe the American public is becoming more aware of the dilemma they're facing: better the devil you know rather than the alternate puppet, whom seems to me to be slightly thicker in the face.

As for the new agers, they'll do what they do when they started the prediction : makeup another lie :P

In my part of the world, actually it's a much better situation overall. No strange weather, the rainy season is starting, as scheduled around this time. Our new Governor of the Capital City, elected this week, is a good and proven man. Not for the big Corporation nor affiliated to any political parties, the (little) people's choice. More and more corruption are being exposed and investigated and high officials getting tried and jail terms. Oh, we had one volcano erupting, but no serious damage nor human casualties. Again, not bad considering 15 of them are on high alert status for a while. Just another day in this Ring of Fire Nation.

But most of all, I am thankful for this post to Laura. Not only did she remind us of the vision and mission of this Forum and The Fellowship of CM, but also, she spells out the proper way to think and behave for the remaining time we have in this BBM. Thank you all.

 

[MikaelYosef]

As I see it, the problem with the second route is that the focus is physical survival no matter the cost, and the cost may very well be that instead of truly serving others, I'm just obsessed with saving myself - and then justifying it by saying I'm reading the signs and acting accordingly.

Assuming that something big happens in the near future, the benefit of being focused on preparation for physical survival in the short term may be to survive an event so that you can can be of service to others in the aftermath.

Depending on the scale of a future event, and the severity of it, the following chaos would need to be waited out until the dust settles. After this I assume mankind will still want to continue on or start fresh. From what I can tell, the forum members here are an eclectic mix and are dotted all around the planet. The amount of shared knowledge here is incredible and the survival of this knowledge is paramount in my opinion.

If there is ever a case for a temporary STS mindset for the purpose of long term STO - would this not be it?

 

[United Gnosis]

As I see it, the problem with the second route is that the focus is physical survival no matter the cost, and the cost may very well be that instead of truly serving others, I'm just obsessed with saving myself - and then justifying it by saying I'm reading the signs and acting accordingly.

If there is ever a case for a temporary STS mindset for the purpose of long term STO - would this not be it?

As Osho used to say, "A rose must grow for itself before it can offer its fragrance to the world". But if this growth is with the intent of increasing STO potential, without directly being STS (or at least not hurting other beings), I feel it is right. I wouldn't even call it "temporary" STS, but rather quasi-STS or even better, passive-STO. A consolidation phase of sorts.

But I am convinced that adopting a true STS mindset for supposed STO long term purposes is never OK. This is probably one of the top 3 insights I've had in my life, so listen closely (then agree or disagree, I don't mind, but do listen attentively): The Ends never justify the Means, it is rather the Means that are Ends unto themselves.

Seeing this from the time-transcendent perspective, remember that the past does not exist anymore and the future will never exist; they are respectively, imprints and projections of the mind in the ever-changing Now. Their only true existence is when they take place in the Now; only the Now ever exists.

Hence, adopting means that are in conflict with your claimed ends is a corrupting process. Claiming that the ends justify the means, an attitude that is opposite to your goals is adopted in the only true Reality, while the end remains ever a projection of the mind into the unreal future.

Ultimately, the end is never reached, or is promptly redefined, while the Now is spent in a corrupted state of inversed values.

How this applies in this situation is that a retreat hurts no one, and if it is done to regroup and your time is spent building a strong foundation, there is nothing inherently wrong. But from the moment the foundations are ready, if you get scared and decide to stay in retreat and use these only for your own safety then that is necessarily STS, not STO.

That's the difference, for instance, between going off the grid in an independent shack in the woods hoping not to get caught in the tempest, or going to work in an urban permaculture project to learn about and manifest a greater independence and resilience of communities.

At least that's my understanding - what do you think?

 

[Gwenllian]

But I have a question for you, Laura and the other teachers here. Do you worry and if so what do you do about it? And what is on your mind?
How do you prepare mentally, apart from the obvious?
Also, some of you have children: is/was it hard to accept that they have their own paths? At some point we may have to let them go.
I am grateful that I decided to break the cycle of abuse more than a decade ago, because my kids might turn out fine when facing challenges, because they did not have to stifle their creativity nor their courage.

I might be new here but I feel I can contribute to this. Being very left brain oriented, when I first took the red pill and started discovering the lies of deep politics/economy/secret history, my analytical mind used to just get a life of its own and start endless cycles of worry.

A very simple lesson that is useful to remember here is that worry can never be useful (except as a potential sign that an issue has not been properly considered yet). That is, if the problem has no remedy, then there is no usefulness to worry, and if the problem has a solution, then the proper thing to do is to look for it and work on it.

In this case, having a definite penchant for the Way of the Yogi, I couldn't agree more with Laura/the C's that knowledge protects. Just remember that knowledge without action is empty, and that the real wisdom lies in applying it.

As for preparing mentally there is nothing better than simply accepting the reality of the situation, facing it and going deep into it; i.e. research and analyze what happens in time of war and chaos, face the fact that it might happen to you, and get started with at least the basic preparations to deal with such a situation. Kind of like the Samurais that nearly constantly meditated on death so that it became part of their life until where imminence of death had no effect at all on their willpower or decisions.

For the rest I'm only 25 so I'll let older, wiser posters give their take on it :)

Thanks, United Gnosis.
I agree, worry is not useful. The fact that I worry about my kids indeed shows me that this is an issue that I have not properly considered. And you are right if the problem knows a solution I can go and look for it. And I have indeed observed that when I am busy making ghee, buying soap and candles, taking care of my (mental) health and those around me, reading SOTT and the threads that worry tends to disappear. I am applying knowledge whenever, wherever I can. But with regard to my kids I become emotional and then I lose sight of things. So that is definitely an issue I have to work on.
I have been contemplating my own death, but the death of my kids is another matter. So, there is another lesson here. I also have to come to terms with the fact that my kids could die. And that is something I have been very afraid of.
Wow, all of a sudden it has become clear where the crux of the matter lies. Thank you for giving me a little nudge. :) And you, Laura. :)

 

[Voyageur]

Had not thought about the date until renewing my insurance yesterday for three months with an expiry date of 12.22 – the day after. It seems to me that the day will just roll itself over to this “day after” as a continuing calendar function. As for changes, can’t predict, as the rhetoric in politics is running high – to extremes. There is a growing hatred of the “city on the hill” and these cities can be represented as the ruling tops in many countries. Also, see much internal agitation in many people as they may be aware of the system corruptions and discontinuities that don’t seem to match their internal beliefs, yet they cannot reconcile what they see and hear.

As was mentioned, late Oct/Nov may prove to be a catalyst of change; from out there, in both our 3d environment and social structures, inclusive of disease, monetary reformations and general control measures. The winter feels like it will be nasty in the North of Europe, swinging into North China and Japan even. North Eastern and Western seaboards may find precipitation extremes as will the western mountains – food/warmth would be a big issue.

As for war, the drum beats never seem to go away and will try and keep answering the lies as best as possible, even if it can only be done on a conscious intentional level, never giving in to the lies – this takes constant vigil. What will happen with the powderkeg’s and those who want to ignite them, don’t know exactly. Israel factors to the extreme, yet they may find a surprise or two if they make moves.

If I See something, and I decide to prepare for it, do I just take certain steps and then let the chips fall where they may, or do I end up obsessing about it? It's always the "obsession" part that seems to indicate that I've gone off the tracks.

Indeed. Could obsess about building a bomb shelters and then be hundreds of miles away if and when it was needed. Also, what would be left outside and would you want to be there anyway. Am still trying to work on self, see and correct flaws, change health/body adaptions and being prepared to help people/community should condition become extreme of these natures.

It's not perfection that is important, it is the STRIVING, the continued movement, the refusal to stagnate, the constant efforts to give and help in whatever way is available to you that counts.

Yup, keep DOing.

I'm not leaving out the 4D influences, the hyperdimensional realities - in fact, I am taking them more into account than ever, what I am trying to say to people is being a literalist in interpreting these things only gets you bitten on the backside.

Thinking about these things too. These are tricky matters for 3d minds and should be approached with knowledge of our infancy of 4d understanding. Networking is a must, as these matters it seems can lead many astray if left to ones own interpretation.

Thanks for comments all. :)

 

[Carl]

I just watched the first episode of the 1970's version of Survivors. It really got me thinking, and if I'm honest I feel quite excited for whatever we may be facing soon. The situation may not feel truly 'real' for me until the whole thing comes crashing down, but I am really trying to get serious about preparation in any way that I can. I purchased a pressure canner last night after reading Laura's brilliant post. Thank you for the alarm clock.

It is clear that physical preparation is only a small part of the picture, but as I am now slightly better off financially I think it's time to start investing my talents in any way possible. With so many factors likely to come into play, ie. plague, PTB, pathology among regular people, ice age, comets, the wave (and all high strangeness that may come with it), it is mind boggling to consider and can lead to confusion and despair.

Laura's post really cleared this up for me in a big way. It's not about having some grand plan for the future, but taking baby steps based on what we See, understanding the results of those steps, and proceeding accordingly. Constantly asking ourselves how we can invest our talents to be useful to others right now and in the future. There may be many good people who are still trapped in the big illusion and couldn't care less about these issues now and don't want our help, but when the **** hits the fan you can bet that we will have plenty of opportunities to be of service. Even just the presence of a calm, psychologically healthy person who Sees reality could be enough to keep people from breaking down and giving up. It may be our job to be that person.

Of course, the hard part will be learning to distinguish pathological people and to have the confidence and strength to say No to them. Countering their influence on groups will be very difficult, and for this we must have developed the virtues of the warrior.

The only thing that has me worried is the weather in England. It's very cold here already, and I don't know how I would cope with super low temperatures, short days and no warmth. But we've lived through ice ages before, so maybe we'll just have to harden up and get on with it.

 

[Shinzenbi]

There is much anti-islam propaganda in the western countries, and even provocations in France with the Charlie Hebdo magazine affair, to push to hatred against the Muslims and prepare the opinion to support an attack on Iran. There are military manoeuvres (sea-mines clearing training) in the Gulf. We can expect a civilisations shock between the muslim and the western worlds that would set the whole middle-east on fire, with Israel being considered the only "civilized stronghold" in the region and must be protected. Protected means that it has to attack Iran. It would be considered in charge of bringing peace and ruling the region, and would this way achieve the Great Israel spreading from the Nil to the Euphrate rivers.

However, apart from the Israeli interests, war seems to be the solution to the western countries bankruptcy. But again, there is an obvious link between Israel and the Bank.

The positive thing is that there are not much islam protests, and the french CFCM (french muslim cult council) has even appealed for calm. No violent reaction, so no hatred swelling between the two communities.

Well... there are also the fireballs, the animal die-offs... I wonder what will come first.

 

[Adobe]

Mayan Calendar…too highly co-opted, so I don’t put much value into the chatter. More thought being put into the Kali-Yuga cycle.

Thoughts of preparation for….Surviving and remaining in 3D, Transfer to 5D, Transfer to 4D, Got to navigate the present until something changes the landscape.

Surviving in 3D:
I’ve been looking at how some people are making incredible things out of debris, or trash. Plenty of utube videos on making a alcohol stove out of a soda can and boiling a quart of water in 7 minutes out of stuff we will find everywhere after a societal collapse. Basic survival/Boy Scout stuff. Mentally going over what I believe my position would be in a particular self defense situation for me and others. I keep telling myself the only investment worth the while now is in my mind, body, and spirit. They are the only things I can keep with me. All the “stuff” preparation doesn’t mean you’re not going to find yourself wet and muddy under a bridge somewhere. I do materially prepare, and believe others should also, just saying what’s inside is safer…and can re-make what is needed.

5D transfer:
How to not be surprised if this becomes the situation and go through the pain ECT of giving up the physical body and hopefully there is assistance on the other side finding ones place in 5D.

4D transfer:
“If” that becomes the reality….dunno how to do that, I hope 3D schooling helps the transition. If I remember a C’s session on this subject, the 4D dark shirts will be out in force to capture the newbie’s, so it would be use your eyes, ears, vibrational frequency and start moving forward?

How much momentum will what I am doing now with body, mind, heart, carry me into the bad times, i.e. if vitamin supplements, proper food, relaxation, mediation all come to an abrupt halt, then what I have built at this point is going to have to last until a healthy life style can be re established or…uhh…5D

It wouldn’t be fair to say the above mentioned issues don’t leave a underling anxiety, but EE, food, exercise, and rest, all of which I have time and place to do, is leaving me pretty calm and collected at present.

If a dart tragedy truly appears, and it doesn’t take everybody out in a day, than there could be some really soul changing days, weeks, or months where the human spirit could shine, even if the ultimate trip would be to 5D, the short time periods before the flight could be a good time of meaningful growth . Brief shining moments as they say.

I’d like to thank Laura for her latest book, and the forum members for all the hard work.

 

[United Gnosis]

Mayan Calendar…too highly co-opted, so I don’t put much value into the chatter. More thought being put into the Kali-Yuga cycle.

Thoughts of preparation for….Surviving and remaining in 3D, Transfer to 5D, Transfer to 4D, Got to navigate the present until something changes the landscape.

Surviving in 3D:
I’ve been looking at how some people are making incredible things out of debris, or trash. Plenty of utube videos on making a alcohol stove out of a soda can and boiling a quart of water in 7 minutes out of stuff we will find everywhere after a societal collapse. Basic survival/Boy Scout stuff. Mentally going over what I believe my position would be in a particular self defense situation for me and others. I keep telling myself the only investment worth the while now is in my mind, body, and spirit. They are the only things I can keep with me. All the “stuff” preparation doesn’t mean you’re not going to find yourself wet and muddy under a bridge somewhere. I do materially prepare, and believe others should also, just saying what’s inside is safer…and can re-make what is needed.

5D transfer:
How to not be surprised if this becomes the situation and go through the pain ECT of giving up the physical body and hopefully there is assistance on the other side finding ones place in 5D.

4D transfer:
“If” that becomes the reality….dunno how to do that, I hope 3D schooling helps the transition. If I remember a C’s session on this subject, the 4D dark shirts will be out in force to capture the newbie’s, so it would be use your eyes, ears, vibrational frequency and start moving forward?

How much momentum will what I am doing now with body, mind, heart, carry me into the bad times, i.e. if vitamin supplements, proper food, relaxation, mediation all come to an abrupt halt, then what I have built at this point is going to have to last until a healthy life style can be re established or…uhh…5D

It wouldn’t be fair to say the above mentioned issues don’t leave a underling anxiety, but EE, food, exercise, and rest, all of which I have time and place to do, is leaving me pretty calm and collected at present.

If a dart tragedy truly appears, and it doesn’t take everybody out in a day, than there could be some really soul changing days, weeks, or months where the human spirit could shine, even if the ultimate trip would be to 5D, the short time periods before the flight could be a good time of meaningful growth . Brief shining moments as they say.

I’d like to thank Laura for her latest book, and the forum members for all the hard work.

Great post, Adobe! I couldn't agree more with everything you said. Seeing the situation as a whole, getting prepared to deal with all the problems and opportunities that will come up according to the different paths that could manifest, Working integrally on all aspects and keeping a positive attitude focused on growth through all of it. +1000

 

[Tchaka]

Many curious thoughts have i about this date, which i do contemplate more than just occasionally.
But the day, specifically, I think is less important than the symbol it offers of what is coming around the mountain, when it comes.
Which must be change.

Whether it be the arrival of a cosmic wave, a cataclysmic visit of comets galore, the fact that "winter IS coming" or simply the inevitable collapse of an unsustainable world system. Somethings gotta give. And I think this date is sort of a cosmic/symbolic/literal water mark and or rally cry for individuals to wake up (or sleep on, for that matter) and choose sides/pick paths. And then run with it. I have high hopes that WHATEVER occurs on the outside will give more people a chance to see SOMETHING is up and act accordingly on the inside.

am i worried? for myself, no…i'm a scrapper. And come hell or high water, as long as i try and learn the lessons, I'm doing all I can do, i imagine. be it level 3,4, or 5. However i am worried for those who, i perceive to have no clue at all. As i fear they will get it coming and going so to speak, having on the one hand, no real knowledge and thus making no real effort to further accumulate that protective knowledge which truly seems to inoculate you from certain levels of fear and attack…and on the other hand, facing the the chaos to come, confounded by that already misconceived outlook (predators mind) so well indoctrinated in all of us at some point in our lives, just seems like a recipe for some real suffering.

All i can do is read as fast and as thoroughly as possible all things LKJ, SOTT and C's.org (almost done with vol. 5/6 of wave), breathe (got about 3 weeks of EE under my belt…which i must say, after years of kundalini, shambala and vippasana meditation, i feel lucky to have found, as it just feels right as rain) and try and interpret the signs, attacks and answers as they enter my (hopefully) ever expanding field of view…all the while trying not to be distracted by "the girl in the red dress" in her oh so many manifestations. A difficult task at best.

and these very issues, everything discussed on all these glorious forums, ARE "what is occupying my thoughts" all the time. And so it goes…

 

[Navigator]

Haven't thought about the particulars of this date, but in a general term I sense the coming of food shortages for the last part of 2012 as we have been seeing in some sott news recently, so I expect some unrest towards the beginning of "lucky" 2013. I concur with others, gathering food doesn't work if we are set for prolonged scarcity, but I think that the shortages and following unrest, the economic collapse will not last that much, at least according to what the C's have said.

So I am thinking on the gathering as a means to get through that "last stretch".

 

[cubbex]

But I have a question for you, Laura and the other teachers here. Do you worry and if so what do you do about it? And what is on your mind?
How do you prepare mentally, apart from the obvious?
Also, some of you have children: is/was it hard to accept that they have their own paths? At some point we may have to let them go.
I am grateful that I decided to break the cycle of abuse more than a decade ago, because my kids might turn out fine when facing challenges, because they did not have to stifle their creativity nor their courage.

Well, United Gnosis gave a pretty good response above that well represents my personal attitude. Many people really don't seem to understand the necessity of facing into reality as it is on a daily basis, really grokking the "Terror of the Situation". It is immunizing in the same way that meditating upon one's death can be.
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Psychological knowledge can help us to know what persons to be involved with and what persons to avoid being tied to because they drain energy which drains our brain and understanding and deprives us of the ability to see and do.

Interesting. Just what has been on my mind lately. Thinking about my death and about who can be depriving my ability to see :/

the above makes me think of something else...

On the one hand, we have the idea that maybe preparing for potential futures based on reading the signs is a useful endeavor for several reasons, one of which would be that it might even change the future in a positive direction.

On the other hand, I think it's also possible to become so involved in "preparing" for possible futures that we forget what is really important. I could think of a million different possible futures, and try to prepare for each one, but if I'm not really "in the moment" and truly focused on the Signs, I might end up going the whole "off the grid, stocked up, and ready for Armageddon" route (with my trusty Bible, of course!).

As I see it, the problem with the second route is that the focus is on physical survival no matter the cost, and the cost may very well be that instead of truly serving others, I'm just obsessed with saving myself - and then justifying it by saying I'm reading the signs and acting accordingly.

Or, looked at another way, instead of just seeing the signs and preparing, I could go overboard and effectively shut out or reduce the possibility of a better future because I'm so fixated on the negative possible futures. I mean this in a sort of "you get back what you give" type of creating one's own reality. It's kind of like when you are just SURE that everyone is out to get you, so you push other people away without realizing it... and then suddenly, everyone is pushed away and you've fulfilled your own prophecy. Probably not the best analogy, but it'll have to do.

So, I think it can be a rather fine line to walk, and I always try to ask myself if what I am doing is serving the greater good, and serving others, or not. If I See something, and I decide to prepare for it, do I just take certain steps and then let the chips fall where they may, or do I end up obsessing about it? It's always the "obsession" part that seems to indicate that I've gone off the tracks.

Can I act in preparation for something I See as a message to the Universe that says, "Oh boy, I see it! I'm gettin' ready!", or do I get "lost in the role" so to speak?

I agree too much with your words sir. I remember in the past how much I was obsessed with the possible negative aspects of the future, what bad things could happen? that occupied my mind, without fully realizing that the climax of my future was there, on the present, dealing with most of my programs, fears, insecurities, repressed emotions. So what I do is try before some rock falls over my head so the opportunity to read what is offered stops, focusing on the present lesson. That's why the future is impossible to predict, there's always something new into the equation.

 

[Gwenllian]

In fact I had thought in DMSO but I am not able to get it here in Spain. So far, my search had not been fruitful.

Elisa, I can't get DMSO, either, at least not without a doctor's prescription. But if you look at e-bay, you can find DMSO (in liquid form) in larger quantities, which you could then mix with distilled water. You could even make your own gel with it.
I have found several German companies that ship DMSO to other European countries.
And I also found some DMSO gel, but it is pricey, OSIT.

 

[jhonny]

zero worries about the "new ages" thoughts.
I'm rather worried about the political and social changes that can be managed throughout the psychopathic thoughts of our rulers, seizing the opportunity, and as we say in Colombia, "fishing in troubled waters"(pescar en rio revuelto) which means seize the moment that the minds of all humanity are open to give one blow.
Also a hit from outside, comet/asteroid. And the consequences of a mini ice-age.
I think the most important thing is being awake to all that happens, with our tools, ofcourse, which are: EE meditation, our diet, our sources of information(SOTT.net), and living our live learning from what happens to us.

 

[Gwenllian]

As I see it, the problem with the second route is that the focus is physical survival no matter the cost, and the cost may very well be that instead of truly serving others, I'm just obsessed with saving myself - and then justifying it by saying I'm reading the signs and acting accordingly.

Assuming that something big happens in the near future, the benefit of being focused on preparation for physical survival in the short term may be to survive an event so that you can can be of service to others in the aftermath.

Depending on the scale of a future event, and the severity of it, the following chaos would need to be waited out until the dust settles. After this I assume mankind will still want to continue on or start fresh. From what I can tell, the forum members here are an eclectic mix and are dotted all around the planet. The amount of shared knowledge here is incredible and the survival of this knowledge is paramount in my opinion.

If there is ever a case for a temporary STS mindset for the purpose of long term STO - would this not be it?

The example of being a mum came to mind. A mother that has to take care of her very young kids has to be in shape and healthy, otherwise she won't be able to do her work. IMO, it is not selfish if I take good care of myself, so that I can take good care of my kids and others. :)

I just watched the first episode of the 1970's version of Survivors.

Carlise, where did you find the series? My son couldn't find it, so we watched the first episode of the series based on the series from the seventies. Also, quite interesting and got me thinking, too.

Edit: Found it! Read the thread on this series, too.