This thread is meant to discuss mainly the ordering of recommended books as well as related tips and experiences.
To begin with and to my knowledge there are two lists of recommended books.
The first and oldest one is posted by Johnno: Recommended Books from the QFS for reference called: QFS list.
The second which differs slightly from the first, probably because it was intended for a different purpose, is compiled/posted by Laura: Spirit board - Ouija Video for reference called: SB list.
A fair number of books on the QFS were already ordered and read, but still many were waiting, and the way things look in the world, the thought came to do the research and most necessary shopping now and read later, rather than wait now and and maybe repent later. This is an individual choice. Along the way discoveries came and what follows is a review.
Sources that are helpful for purchasing are of course.
_http://www.amazon.com (U.S.A.)
_http://www.amazon.de (Germany)
_http://www.amazon.co.uk (The United Kingdom)
_http://www.amazon.fr (France)
Be aware that that not all listed book sellers send outside of their own country. If you need it good to find out if International Shipping is available. (Learned this the hard way.)
Not all books are easily available through Amazon; or they do not have a seller with International Shipping. This led to the search for other sales networks.
The following were helpful:
_http://www.abebooks.com/
_http://www.alibris.com/
Sometimes a book in English will be lying around in a book shop of a non-English speaking country, even as new, though out of print elsewhere.
If a bookshop is not doing international shipping according to the sellers network page, one may try to contact a seller directly and find out if he can help. We are trying to do that in one case that proved difficult. The alibris pages will list the name of the seller with a hyperlink but one will still stay within the alibris web site. To go out and find the contact details, take the name of seller and put it in the Google search engine, it might help.
COSTLY BOOKS FROM THE SB LIST
A few books are expensive, some even very much so. A couple of titles worthy of mentioning.
(If these book in spite of price are worthy of purchasing is still for me an open question.)
The Origins of Biblical Israel - Philip Davies
_http://www.amazon.com/Origins-Biblical-Library-Testament-Studies/dp/0567043819/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221737283&sr=1-23 has it for $ 115, POUNDS 54 ON AMAZON UK. Above book is published by _http://www.continuumbooks.com
Their catelogue: _http://www.continuumbooks.com/download/TTC.pdf has:
Where Troy Once Stood - Iman Wilkens
_http://www.amazon.com/Where-Troy-Once-Stood-Revealed/dp/0312059949 122 $, AMAZON UK POUNDS 54 AND UP. But you might be able to get the new edition from the authors home page: _http://www.troy-in-england.co.uk/troy-books/troy-books.htm
The Cosmic Serpent - Victor Clube and Bill Napier
_http://www.amazon.com/Cosmic-Serpent-Victor-Clube/dp/0876633793 had it for 93$, though AMAZON UK were selling it from £19.90 _http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_b/026-6910181-7954040?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=The+Cosmic+Serpent+-+Victor+Clube+and+Bill+Napier&x=9&y=24
The Cosmic Winter - Victor Clube and Bill Napier
_http://www.amazon.com/Cosmic-Winter-Victor-Clube/dp/0631169539 275$, 240 POUNDS ON AMAZON UK! (available in French on Amazon.fr)
For this costly book there is a good review by Cyre: _http://cyregray.newsvine.com/_news/2008/05/17/1495355-book-review-the-cosmic-winter-by-victor-clube-bill-napier
Occult & Scientific Mentalities in the Renaissance - Brian Vickers (editor)54 $
Power of the Pendulum - T.C. Lethbridge 75 - 100 $ but found an informative review on _http://www.thewhitegoddess.co.uk/articles/dowsing.html
see also: _http://www.tc-lethbridge.com/anthological_review/the_power_of_the_pendulum/
However looking at the global library network there were 201 copies: _http://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n50-50363
Comments
On the SB list there is: "Evidence of Survival After Death by Sir William F. Barret and James H. Hyslop", I ordered it but it turns out to be a booklet of only 20 pages of printed matter extracted from a book called "On The Threshold of the Unseen" available from the same publisher for 25 $. So $ 9.44 plus $ 12.49 in postage for the 20 pages, is it worth it? And was it only that chapter that Laura had in mind, or was it the whole book, or something else?
Some books are available in several editions. One such example is The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall where I ended up with a new, simple, black and white version from A & D Publishing, Radford Va (Virginia, USA) from 2007, whereas a friend got one from 2003 with a few reprints of the beautiful original color plates.
The shops vary quite a lot in terms of, to what length they go in making sure one gets the book. Some come within a week, that was from US to SA! Some send email notifications for every order received and every order dispatched. Some send as priority mail and with custom declarations. Here in SA it means these parcels go as registered and a slip appears in the mail that books are ready to be picked up at the post office counter.
Some shops wrap the books very carefully, others put it in a very simple paper envelope that gets into the mailbox slightly opened! If I had been able to place order with Amazon themselves, they would have put it in their cardboard box, but because they stopped sending that way to SA, I had to take whatever was available and hope for the best. Seeing what is coming and how, it is possible there will be a couple of titles that need to be reordered as part of the game.
Actually I had to order through a friend, and since he does not usually order that many 'funny books' (as he call them) from Amazon, the fraud department at his bank called him first thing in the morning to find out what was going on, as they were suspecting ID theft. And as the latest the customs sent a notice to the mailbox. They have stopped a parcel. I guess they wish to get some money or VAT unless I can prove to them that it is for personal use and not meant to stay in South Africa.
Some books are available in other languages than in English. For example I had a difficulty ordering the book of Allan Kardec from the SB list, but I knew someone who had told she had him in Portuguese. What a surprise when I came around to visit the family. She landed a set of six books on the kitchen table as a gift. They were originally sponsored by the Brazilian Spiritist association which has been very active propagating his ideas throughout the world.
To begin with and to my knowledge there are two lists of recommended books.
The first and oldest one is posted by Johnno: Recommended Books from the QFS for reference called: QFS list.
The second which differs slightly from the first, probably because it was intended for a different purpose, is compiled/posted by Laura: Spirit board - Ouija Video for reference called: SB list.
A fair number of books on the QFS were already ordered and read, but still many were waiting, and the way things look in the world, the thought came to do the research and most necessary shopping now and read later, rather than wait now and and maybe repent later. This is an individual choice. Along the way discoveries came and what follows is a review.
Sources that are helpful for purchasing are of course.
_http://www.amazon.com (U.S.A.)
_http://www.amazon.de (Germany)
_http://www.amazon.co.uk (The United Kingdom)
_http://www.amazon.fr (France)
Be aware that that not all listed book sellers send outside of their own country. If you need it good to find out if International Shipping is available. (Learned this the hard way.)
Not all books are easily available through Amazon; or they do not have a seller with International Shipping. This led to the search for other sales networks.
The following were helpful:
_http://www.abebooks.com/
_http://www.alibris.com/
Sometimes a book in English will be lying around in a book shop of a non-English speaking country, even as new, though out of print elsewhere.
If a bookshop is not doing international shipping according to the sellers network page, one may try to contact a seller directly and find out if he can help. We are trying to do that in one case that proved difficult. The alibris pages will list the name of the seller with a hyperlink but one will still stay within the alibris web site. To go out and find the contact details, take the name of seller and put it in the Google search engine, it might help.
COSTLY BOOKS FROM THE SB LIST
A few books are expensive, some even very much so. A couple of titles worthy of mentioning.
(If these book in spite of price are worthy of purchasing is still for me an open question.)
The Origins of Biblical Israel - Philip Davies
_http://www.amazon.com/Origins-Biblical-Library-Testament-Studies/dp/0567043819/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221737283&sr=1-23 has it for $ 115, POUNDS 54 ON AMAZON UK. Above book is published by _http://www.continuumbooks.com
Their catelogue: _http://www.continuumbooks.com/download/TTC.pdf has:
All the books from this company are costly, and since there are other books on similar subjects in the SB list, I am wondering if it is essential buying considering the 192 pages. Fortunately we found it in a library.
Where Troy Once Stood - Iman Wilkens
_http://www.amazon.com/Where-Troy-Once-Stood-Revealed/dp/0312059949 122 $, AMAZON UK POUNDS 54 AND UP. But you might be able to get the new edition from the authors home page: _http://www.troy-in-england.co.uk/troy-books/troy-books.htm
The Cosmic Serpent - Victor Clube and Bill Napier
_http://www.amazon.com/Cosmic-Serpent-Victor-Clube/dp/0876633793 had it for 93$, though AMAZON UK were selling it from £19.90 _http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_b/026-6910181-7954040?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=The+Cosmic+Serpent+-+Victor+Clube+and+Bill+Napier&x=9&y=24
The Cosmic Winter - Victor Clube and Bill Napier
_http://www.amazon.com/Cosmic-Winter-Victor-Clube/dp/0631169539 275$, 240 POUNDS ON AMAZON UK! (available in French on Amazon.fr)
For this costly book there is a good review by Cyre: _http://cyregray.newsvine.com/_news/2008/05/17/1495355-book-review-the-cosmic-winter-by-victor-clube-bill-napier
Occult & Scientific Mentalities in the Renaissance - Brian Vickers (editor)54 $
Power of the Pendulum - T.C. Lethbridge 75 - 100 $ but found an informative review on _http://www.thewhitegoddess.co.uk/articles/dowsing.html
see also: _http://www.tc-lethbridge.com/anthological_review/the_power_of_the_pendulum/
However looking at the global library network there were 201 copies: _http://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n50-50363
Comments
On the SB list there is: "Evidence of Survival After Death by Sir William F. Barret and James H. Hyslop", I ordered it but it turns out to be a booklet of only 20 pages of printed matter extracted from a book called "On The Threshold of the Unseen" available from the same publisher for 25 $. So $ 9.44 plus $ 12.49 in postage for the 20 pages, is it worth it? And was it only that chapter that Laura had in mind, or was it the whole book, or something else?
Some books are available in several editions. One such example is The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall where I ended up with a new, simple, black and white version from A & D Publishing, Radford Va (Virginia, USA) from 2007, whereas a friend got one from 2003 with a few reprints of the beautiful original color plates.
The shops vary quite a lot in terms of, to what length they go in making sure one gets the book. Some come within a week, that was from US to SA! Some send email notifications for every order received and every order dispatched. Some send as priority mail and with custom declarations. Here in SA it means these parcels go as registered and a slip appears in the mail that books are ready to be picked up at the post office counter.
Some shops wrap the books very carefully, others put it in a very simple paper envelope that gets into the mailbox slightly opened! If I had been able to place order with Amazon themselves, they would have put it in their cardboard box, but because they stopped sending that way to SA, I had to take whatever was available and hope for the best. Seeing what is coming and how, it is possible there will be a couple of titles that need to be reordered as part of the game.
Actually I had to order through a friend, and since he does not usually order that many 'funny books' (as he call them) from Amazon, the fraud department at his bank called him first thing in the morning to find out what was going on, as they were suspecting ID theft. And as the latest the customs sent a notice to the mailbox. They have stopped a parcel. I guess they wish to get some money or VAT unless I can prove to them that it is for personal use and not meant to stay in South Africa.
Some books are available in other languages than in English. For example I had a difficulty ordering the book of Allan Kardec from the SB list, but I knew someone who had told she had him in Portuguese. What a surprise when I came around to visit the family. She landed a set of six books on the kitchen table as a gift. They were originally sponsored by the Brazilian Spiritist association which has been very active propagating his ideas throughout the world.
