Toxic Heavy Metals Urine Test - Micro Trace Minerals

Joe said:
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Although as I mentioned on the iodine thread, you can probably still get a good idea of what your levels are if you reduce that amount significantly. For you I would take 1gram for example. Then collect your urine for the next 3 hours, fill the tube with that, and send it off. Easy peasy!

Thanks for the clarification Joe. I was pretty shocked by the high dose, but found the section where Gaby talks about this method for testing:

Gaby said:
Very interesting! That test is pretty reliable to indicate your heavy metal burden. There is a summary in the book "Why Can't I Get Better" by Richard Horowitz on how to measure heavy metal toxicity based on current guidelines and research. Here are some points:

- Horowitz says blood serum levels are not highly reliable unless there had been a recent acute exposure.

- Hair analysis shows elevated levels of heavy metals in some people, but nowhere near the elevated levels that came back on the DMSA urine challenge on the same people. The urine test consistently shows higher levels of mercury, lead, arsenic and other heavy metals when DMSA was used as a provocation agent.

- 30mg/Kg challenge of DMSA (a weight-dependent dose) with a six-hour urine collection yielded superior results to a 24 hour collection with just 500mg of DMSA. The reasoning for this is that only 20% of DMSA is absorbed from the digestive tract and almost all DMSA is cleared by the kidneys in approximately 4 hours.

-Horowitz reports the differences between doing a low dose DMSA challenge with 500mg and the results with a 30mg/kg of DMSA with a six hour urine DMSA challenge. Lead levels went from 9 to 70, and mercury levels went from 1.4 to 9.3 using the higher dosage of DMSA, in the same patient.


- He says that high dose DMSA (30mg/kg) has been safe and well tolerated with only a rare patient reporting nausea, flu like symptoms and a rash if there is an unknown sulfa sensitivity. However, he recommends this "high dose" just for the urine test, to determine your burden of heavy metals. For detox, the very low dose of 100-200mg every two nights or other "low dose" protocol would do just fine. Specially if you are very sick and toxic loaded!

Evil heavy metals!
 
Joe said:
Hi Cleo, maybe you could find a "normal" dentist that would do it more cheaply and over a few visits in a short period of time? I mentioned on the iodine thread that the idea would be to tell the dentist why you are doing it, and ask him/her to drill as little as possible to avoid creating mercury 'dust'. Any large particles that you happen to ingest are not so much of a problem. Just be sure to take chlorella for a couple of days after each visit.

Lilou said:
My regular dentist removed mine (I had 6 or 7, can't remember now, as it's been 27 years ago!). He used a rubber dam and continuous air suction. The only other thing the bio-dentist does is have the patient wear an oxygen mask. I read if oxygen is not available, you can simply put a wet paper towel over your face to cover the nose & eyes.

At a regular dentist, having amalgam replaced with white resin should cost about $100 per tooth. You may want to search the web for recommended before and after protocols to help move any ingested mercury out, there are quite a few.

Hi, good to know of this other option! Will be looking into it further. Hadn't even really considered the idea of going to a regular dentist-due to what I'd read I guess about the health risks having them removed the normal way. Relief to think I might be able to go about it this other way. Thanks much.
 
Cleo said:
Hi, good to know of this other option! Will be looking into it further. Hadn't even really considered the idea of going to a regular dentist-due to what I'd read I guess about the health risks having them removed the normal way. Relief to think I might be able to go about it this other way. Thanks much.

After reading how even some holistic practitioners said it was a valid option, I did it through a regular dentist as well in Costa Rica. I had a mouth full of mercury at some point.

It is recommended to schedule one replacement at a time, spaced enough from the next appointment. About one amalgam per month sounds reasonable, doing detox throughout the process. A suction device is very important, and dentists usually use them. Remember not to swallow any mercury bits as well.

:flowers:
 
Gaby said:
It is recommended to schedule one replacement at a time, spaced enough from the next appointment. About one amalgam per month sounds reasonable, doing detox throughout the process. A suction device is very important, and dentists usually use them. Remember not to swallow any mercury bits as well.

:flowers:

Good to know about spacing the replacements out :)

Quite a bit of info available on this topic, and areas to research..think I may eventually chart some of how the teeth thing is going in the 'dental health' thread, as there are a few questions already forming in my mind.
 
Thanks for the links, Joe and Lilou. I've ordered my heavy metals test kit and I'll keep you all posted when I get the results. This should be very informative.
 
I just got my HM test results back. 10x the reference range for lead (10.7 ug/g) and almost 3x the reference range for Mercury (6.27 ug/g).

My functional medicine doctor gave me two options:

1) DMSA - proven effectiveness, shorter treatment duration, more expensive

2) Metagenics MetalloClear (http://www.metagenics.com/mp/products/metalloclear). Slower acting, would be at least 9 months before she would retest for HM. More affordable. Does anyone have experience with this product?

(note: I also posted in this in the iodine thread before I saw this one... oops. Now I can't find how to delete it. Mods, feel free to remove that post)
 
mk1154 said:
I just got my HM test results back. 10x the reference range for lead (10.7 ug/g) and almost 3x the reference range for Mercury (6.27 ug/g).

My functional medicine doctor gave me two options:

1) DMSA - proven effectiveness, shorter treatment duration, more expensive

2) Metagenics MetalloClear (http://www.metagenics.com/mp/products/metalloclear). Slower acting, would be at least 9 months before she would retest for HM. More affordable. Does anyone have experience with this product?

(note: I also posted in this in the iodine thread before I saw this one... oops. Now I can't find how to delete it. Mods, feel free to remove that post)

Hi Mk, I have no experience of metalloclear or the ingredients it contains, so can't comment on it. Personally I would go with the DMSA, or try the cilantro-chorella drops.
 
Thanks for starting this thread, Joe. It makes it easier to pinpoint the info and for comparing results. I will order the kit and let you know the results, though I will have to wait a few weeks, as I have to pass an exam soon and can't afford to be off colour before then. :)
 
Hi Mk, I have no experience of metalloclear or the ingredients it contains, so can't comment on it. Personally I would go with the DMSA, or try the cilantro-chorella drops.

Also, raw garlic is excellent to help detox from lead.
 
mk1154 said:
2) Metagenics MetalloClear (http://www.metagenics.com/mp/products/metalloclear). Slower acting, would be at least 9 months before she would retest for HM. More affordable. Does anyone have experience with this product?

I have no experience with that particular product but my wife has tried a couple of other products fromn that company and they are very good. fwiw
 
Thanks to Joe for starting this thread -- I'm sorry I'm late to it, but I wanted to second what Lilou posted earlier about Doctor's Data being a good resource for heavy metal testing in the US. It's the lab that I've used the two times that I've had my heavy metal levels checked, and I've attached the results. My first test was last November (first sheet), and it showed that my mercury level was problematic but my lead level was particularly high. At that point I started chelating with a product called Chelex by Xymogen in two-week cycles, five days on and two days off:

Chelex ingredients said:
DMSA 100 mg
EDTA (as calcium EDTA) 300 m
Cilantro 300 mg
Chlorella 300 mg
Allicin (as organic garlic extract) 6000 mcg
Fulvic acid (as Humet-R®) 160 mg
N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine 200 mg
Alpha-Lipoic Acid 100 mg

I took a two-week break at the beginning of last June, and then got tested again (second sheet). My mercury and lead levels had both started coming down, but my lead was still way higher than I wanted it to be, so I began supplementing with extra EDTA on the on days. I continued this through the end of 2015 -- I had started the iodine protocol with co-factors in December, and for the first couple of weeks I took about the equivalent of 150 mg using Lugol's five out of seven days, but I started to get pains in my back on the left side just under my ribcage (at first I thought it was my kidney, but I now think it may have been my adrenal gland), so I cut back to 50 mg using Iodoral tablets. I also started to experience some cardiac symptoms in the latter half of December similar to the ones I had a couple years ago, so I decided to take a break from the chelation for a couple of months and just stick with the iodine. I restarted a cardiac supplement protocol, and the symptoms cleared up after about seven weeks; the back pain resolved as well in about the same amount of time. I'm going to ask to be re-tested later this spring to see where my levels are at, and I'll decide at that point whether or not to resume the chelation (it will be without the DMSA, since Xymogen is no longer allowed to include it in their Chelex, so I hope that my mercury levels are within range at that point).
 

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Lilou said:
For those in the states, I found this lab in Illinois that does heavy metal testing for $129.95, postage paid and they include the DMSA you need to take as well. http://www.dmsachelation.com/urine-test-for-heavy-metals/

The results look similar to Joe's test results. They test for 20 different metals. Seems like a pretty decent deal.

I just received my test results from this lab Lilou linked above. I have very high lead levels. Also high with Barium and Cesium. Not too surprised working for the semiconductor industry for over 30 years working with solder.

Looks like I have work to reduce these metals but I am not sure which is the best way to go about it. Is DMSA better or EDTA? Loading up on garlic looks like an option as well.
 

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Nicolas said:
I just received my test results from this lab Lilou linked above. I have very high lead levels. Also high with Barium and Cesium. Not too surprised working for the semiconductor industry for over 30 years working with solder.

Looks like I have work to reduce these metals but I am not sure which is the best way to go about it. Is DMSA better or EDTA? Loading up on garlic looks like an option as well.

I'll be getting my results back soon and I expect to see high levels of lead, mercury, and nickel, and probably others. Some years back I had a dream that there was a heavy metal band playing in my front yard, it took me some hours to realize that it was probably a signal to myself - LOL.

Anyway, I did a quick Google search on 'detox for lead' and there's a load of info available, some of the stuff mentioned includes, garlic, selenium, chlorella, spirulina, clay, DMSA, and EDTA. I haven't read in depth about any of yet though. But I will :)
 
Nicolas said:
I just received my test results from this lab Lilou linked above. I have very high lead levels. Also high with Barium and Cesium. Not too surprised working for the semiconductor industry for over 30 years working with solder.

Looks like I have work to reduce these metals but I am not sure which is the best way to go about it. Is DMSA better or EDTA? Loading up on garlic looks like an option as well.

I would use EDTA first and/or whatever you have available right now. Lead excretion with DMSA is quoted to be less than lead. I think both are perfectly good, but EDTA could be prioritized.

I dreamed recently with Han Solo frozen in a block of carbonite, just like in the movie :P. After that, I had a strong suspicion that there were some heavy metal issues. I guess I'll find out soon!
 
Shijing said:
Thanks to Joe for starting this thread -- I'm sorry I'm late to it, but I wanted to second what Lilou posted earlier about Doctor's Data being a good resource for heavy metal testing in the US. It's the lab that I've used the two times that I've had my heavy metal levels checked, and I've attached the results. My first test was last November (first sheet), and it showed that my mercury level was problematic but my lead level was particularly high. At that point I started chelating with a product called Chelex by Xymogen in two-week cycles, five days on and two days off:

Chelex ingredients said:
DMSA 100 mg
EDTA (as calcium EDTA) 300 m
Cilantro 300 mg
Chlorella 300 mg
Allicin (as organic garlic extract) 6000 mcg
Fulvic acid (as Humet-R®) 160 mg
N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine 200 mg
Alpha-Lipoic Acid 100 mg

Thanks for sharing that Shijing. How much of the Chelex were you taking a day on the cycles?
 

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