Train derailments and explosions and chemical spills


An interesting website someone on Twitter chose to highlight this problem ;-)

My hypothesis of what these fires of processing plants and toxic dispersion events on land may be doing in the end goes like this.
Destroying these businesses in the end is slowly centralizing/concentrating the sources from where people will get their food. When these plants are gone other businesses take on that business and grow larger as a result. What then happens is that you will have the same situation as with the clot-shot,
"Your option is Moderna or Pfizer. Nothing else is available or allowed."

Additionally, it will be these large food corporations that will now have bigger control of what is in the food (along with additives "for your health") and what will be available to eat .

Taking out agricultural land has the same effect,
"You can get your product from Mr. Gates the local farmer. How much corn do you want ? Sorry, Amish stuff will no longer be sold. It is poisoned."
 

When they will dominate the food markets they will be able to do what they want.


Sure, boycott works, but only WHEN YOU HAVE ALTERNATIVES.

People think this is not possible. Well I didn't think it was possible to see trans-somethings in kindergartens and in high government positions.

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Have the byproducts from the burn gotten to Ontario, which is directly NORTH of East Palestine ????

 
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But we know, ALL STATES have their own air quality monitoring stations thus have data of what is happening. Just watch, like Pfizer they will ask to have is made secret for 75 yrs.
I sent the "There's Fire in Our Crowded Theater" article to my cousin the chemist - he thought it was a lot of exaggeration and potential fearmongering. Seems a bit overblown to me as well. I do think the background death rate will increase over time with effects lessening the further away from the accident site. Chornobyl killed people all over the world, but only in very small percentages if very far away.
 
I sent the "There's Fire in Our Crowded Theater" article to my cousin the chemist - he thought it was a lot of exaggeration and potential fearmongering. Seems a bit overblown to me as well. I do think the background death rate will increase over time with effects lessening the further away from the accident site. Chornobyl killed people all over the world, but only in very small percentages if very far away.
At the end of the day the people will have exactly the same problem as the one currently happening with the clot-shots and heart problems. Silence. The media is being used to make the problem disappear by suggesting it is Con-19 illness and not the injection.

Any hope to get reliable data on the burned product distribution ? Well if NOAA is removed their results of dispersion patterns after the accident, I say not likely. Can we trust the government ? A fool can ,which the Plandemic clearly showed. The chemicals that were burned are carcinogenic. The burn byproducts likewise. If you can smell something then that has gone to your lungs. If you see birds/fish/animals dying that a sign it is there and will stay there. Can they tell where those plum products went ? I think they can but I bet we will not see this data.

Bottom line is this stuff went up in the air and then down. Where exactly is really just an academic problem for most of us but a real one for the people who get touched by it. Effects won't be seen immediately but with time they will show themselves. When they do it will be swept under the carpet. That is certain.

It's also wise to recall that Fukushima is not a problem that has been solved. Yet if you monitor the news-media it seems that it doesn't exist any more as it has effectively disappeared from sight. I bet no research money or grants will be available to do in-depth studies of its effects on people's health in the century.

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captainoverchuck
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I hate to tell you this, I’ve worked for a class one railroad for 12 years. If you took every possible bad thought you had about corporations and balled them all up together, you would still fall so short of the abusive and greedy nature of these companies. They were born out of manifest destiny and grew to essentially control the US government. With the consolidation of the last 60 years it has only gotten worse. Think BofA is too big to fail? Meet Union Pacific. Regulatory capture is a way of life for these people. There will be zero accountability, zero serious fiscal punishment, zero regulatory change. It’s “fuck everybody, we are gonna get RICHER, and there isn’t a damn thing you can do to stop us!” The railroads were on a short leash until 2017. That’s when all hell broke loose. Getting the cow back in the barn may require nationalization/heavy regulation, and we all know the likelihood of that is near zero. Get used to getting “railroaded”, there is a reason that is a term of speech.
 
I'll be honest, I have a problem believing that ;-)
Even wax melts slowly in a small flame. Ice takes considerably more energy (time) to melt. And because the cold surface of the ice absorbs so much energy, the flame will have lower temperature in some parts, so the gas burns only partially, creating residue on the surface. A spoon will also get black if you put if closely over a flame like from a candle. (there it is more the lack of oxygen that makes the material burn only partially).
That's what I think anyway. Unless gas doesnt burn partially like candlewax would do(?).
 
Looks like the stuff from the burn in Ohio is in Canada.



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0.1 to 0.3 ppm of phosgene gas can kill a human. It % is a byproduct of burning vinyl chloride. Over 20,000 ppm can be released from just burning 100 gallons of vinyl chloride. Do some research people.

And Biden goes to Europe while the gov. of Ohio

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this guy :Former nuclear engineering specialist, robot designer & power generator. Now a Petro-chemical Design Engineer. Working as an environmental scientist living/working in Montreal right now. He sounds legit to me....

Talking about Ph level of 4 in snow in Montreal, acidic - the Ph of 4 is acidic enough to kill fish. Found also, contaminates measuring 1400 to 1800 ppm. and water above 500 ppm is considered unfit for consumption. From newly gathered data. Also Phosgene forms when Vinyl Chloride burns, Phosgene, a chemical weapon used WW1. Levels of Phosgene found on the ground but not enough to 'quickly cause' long-term effects but enough to make people sick and have complications later in life.

 
Normal procedure for big corporations, fool the public.


Then a bit about "Food Supply"

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What these people say makes you wonder what to expect down the line after this completely disappears from News. Not that it is very visible now.

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Dioxin is the big issue as it accumulates in fatty tissue , man and animals.


What does EPA say about dioxin.

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What does WHO say about dioxin.

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Local Farmer Sounds the Alarm: Why Did East Palestine Launch ‘MyID’ Emergency Service to Surveil Biometrics 1 Week Before Ohio Train Derailment?​


A man who lives nine miles away from where the Norfolk Southern train carrying toxic chemicals derailed in eastern Ohio reached out to The Gateway Pundit to sound the alarm on the bizarre coincidences that continue to pile up surrounding the incident.

Bob Moore, a 70-year-old farmer and longtime resident of East Palestine, initially ignored local news reports urging residents to sign up for “MyID” to receive a new biometric tracking device that provides first responders updates about an individual’s health conditions amid an emergency or “major disaster.”

Mr. Moore has quite a lot to say and some of what we've already heard but coming from a resident lends context, Mr. Moore is wide awake.
He was asked to be in the movie White Noise but declined. What I found chilling was the secrecy surrounding what is going on in Palestine. I had an X Files flash. What are they hiding? Reading the other posts in this thread, this shut down on information seems to be blanketing the whole unfolding event.

When pressed for more information about the disastrous train derailment, Moore’s associates who are first responders and railroad workers are tight-lipped. They were required to sign a non-disclosure agreement prohibiting them from discussing the incident.

“The local major hospital institute has told all of their employees that they are forbidden to speak out about anything related to this toxic spill. They are not allowed to do interviews, they are not allowed to go on camera, write quotes or comment about anything going on. Experts from the local community have been told, ‘Do not speak, this is not your business this is the business of the federal government, the state government, and the railroad company,” Moore said. “They all received emails and work calls. Some of them have inquired about speaking and they were told to keep out of it."
 
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