Tribute to Yuri Gagarin

[Alma.Innovadora]

So sorry to learn this, hope you guys didn't loose too much work because of the cancellation.

Well, interestingly, it was the opposite, I was willing to spend $150 for printing a 3D helmet, exact copy of Yuri's helmet, but I let things come naturally when the wind started to blow in the opposite direction, I could read several warnings in the environment so I didn't rush. I didn't spend that money so we'll see what comes up soon on what was necessary not to spend it now. Finished with Yuri but now the road takes me to another situation, my friend is back sick from a trip, ovarian cyst, two and large and we have no job that guarantees us a steady income so... let's see what other plans life has when it puts me in this kind of situation. I may soon talk about it in another thread as she had the vaccine and it caused a problem with her menstruation, she was several weeks late and those issues are beyond my comprehension, so who knows.... maybe some of that money I will have to use to help her later on. I don't know what exactly, but something will come to me, it's usually the pattern. I just know that she invested her money to support me so it's time to return that help.

 

[PERLOU]

J'ai appris dernièrement que Gagarine avait disparu en 1968, pas mort mais personne ne sait ce qu'il est devenu, confirmez-vous ?...

I recently learned that Gagarin disappeared in 1968, not dead but no one knows what happened to him, can you confirm this?

 

[Amor]

Some blood boiling speech you got there. It sure ignites some sparks to do something. Good luck

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

I recently learned that Gagarin disappeared in 1968, not dead but no one knows what happened to him, can you confirm this?

Well... an important starting point for this is that "everyone sees what he wants to see".

Following the official story, I can think superficiallywhich in my opinion points to the fact that he was "murdered". The little I have investigated about the way in which they hid the evidence to take care of the interests of those involved for so long, to prevent him from continuing to rise in his military career and perhaps the presidency, the suicide mission of Vladimir Komarov and that Yuri tried to avoid and was blocked. All the influence he lost and was taken away.... it just makes me think that a group of individuals did not have his best interest for him by becoming a danger and that he was going against their control agendas during the Soviet union and was already sticking his nose into things he shouldn't have.

Maybe connecting the dots about important political and social events that may have occurred after the return of his space achievement, it might throw up more clues, if only he had information of his goals thoughts since he and Sergey Korolyov by all accounts had views contrary to how the Soviet union was doing things and already that tells us it's going against the agenda. But beyond that, I don't know anything, just the obvious "hypothesis" that if you go against the agenda, you should be silenced immediately according to the influence the person has.

Yuri is described as a very humble person who, seeing him surrounded by so much materialistic temptation that allowed him to live his position as a world celebrity, anyone with hidden intentions expects him to accommodate better to that materialistic life and stop fighting for noble interests, but it seems that this was not the case.

Gagarin pointed to the success of the space flight as a symbol of world unity and peace when those on the ground sent him only with the intention of winning yet another war, two opposing visions. The Soviet Union won their propaganda victory over their enemy but they now had another problem with Yuri's return and his world influence if they let him orbit freely in higher positions. That's all I can see based on those "facts".

But! on the other hand, what Alexey Leonov said that is like an ockham's razor, because it makes me think that it is better to weave all a conspiratorial information before accepting the worst shot in the foot as it is to have accidentally killed the most important person in the Soviet Union at that time, just because an irresponsible did not follow the rules. They won the space propaganda and now the brutal propaganda against them for foolishly killing the one who helped them get that victory... it definitely has no name and is more indignantly than any subjective or fictitious hypothesis.

A matter of propaganda.

Every time there is a certain kind of information like that, I remember this over and over again:

 

[Alejo]

Well, interestingly, it was the opposite, I was willing to spend $150 for printing a 3D helmet, exact copy of Yuri's helmet, but I let things come naturally when the wind started to blow in the opposite direction, I could read several warnings in the environment so I didn't rush. I didn't spend that money so we'll see what comes up soon on what was necessary not to spend it now. Finished with Yuri but now the road takes me to another situation, my friend is back sick from a trip, ovarian cyst, two and large and we have no job that guarantees us a steady income so... let's see what other plans life has when it puts me in this kind of situation. I may soon talk about it in another thread as she had the vaccine and it caused a problem with her menstruation, she was several weeks late and those issues are beyond my comprehension, so who knows.... maybe some of that money I will have to use to help her later on. I don't know what exactly, but something will come to me, it's usually the pattern. I just know that she invested her money to support me so it's time to return that help.

oof, that is rough about your friend.

I hope it's something that may be treatable, has she seen doctors about it? or is this the first time she learns about them? And you're right, sometimes things don't workout for a reason. And sure keep us posted.

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

oof, that is rough about your friend.

I hope it's something that may be treatable, has she seen doctors about it? or is this the first time she learns about them? And you're right, sometimes things don't workout for a reason. And sure keep us posted.

I have not asked him in depth. She is 37 years old and was on treatment for three months with some drops. If the balls she has reduced in size in three months, there was no need for surgery but apparently she did not do the treatment correctly (if the doctors themselves knew it was correctly what she had, which I highly doubt) and the size increased. She must have surgery and it is $1000. So far I can see that she is a little overweight, stress and the doctors told her she has menopause to complete the picture and that does not help her emotionally. One of the doctor's solutions was that the only way it could be removed was to have a baby or put her on a device to prevent menstruation.

I am waiting for her to send me the echo pictures and a brief description of what she has so I can post them here to see what you guys tell me, in the meantime I am researching and so far some of the information both here and on sott, is diet change mainly and paleo diet, but the problem is she can't eat much meat. As much as you want to help someone, it's more up to her to open up to new information, so well, I've just presented her with the information, but I don't know if she's read it. In addition, a previous illness seems to have accelerated his aging some time ago, and now the vaccine that also affected her... it's a box of surprises, until I have enough information, I can't provide anything more concrete.

 

[PERLOU]

Un Grand MERCI pour votre réponse concernant Gagarine, je comprends votre point de vue et vous suis reconnaissante de l'avoir partagé avec moi...
Je suis aussi vraiment désolée pour votre amie, puisse-t-elle voir la lumière...

A big THANK YOU for your answer about Gagarin, I understand your point of view and am grateful to you for sharing it with me...
I am also very sorry for your friend, may she see the light....

 

[dennis]

I don't know how common the name Gagarin is in Russia, or whether Yuri was of this line, but there is this-

The history of the Russian Empire shows that many of the Gagarin Princes, both in ancient times as well as in more recent times, were granted fiefdoms for their service to the fatherland, and were rewarded with several Orders and other tokens of the Monarch's favor. According to many rulings of the Imperial Senate of Russia, the members of the family were reconfirmed many times as Russian Princes.

Les Princes Gagarin: Home Page

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

I don't know how common the name Gagarin is in Russia, or whether Yuri was of this line, but there is this-

Humoristically it comes to my mind that Yuri comes from the passionate adventure of a peasant love of a nobleman tired of so much height. Because the bearer of the Gagarin surname was Yuri's paternal grandfather and his grandparents were also peasants and the lineage of the info you posted, is directed at "Keeping the blood pure" over high positions, publicly as in the old days, high royalty and commoners are not linked. If someone wanted to find a connection of his family tree to high royalty and a symbolic connection to his role in the Soviet union, he will have to go to other sources, many, many sources, quite an arduous job. Whatever is true, few will know, and those who know more will have come to the conclusion to which Alexei Leonov found himself at the end of his search: will "fix nothing."

A big THANK YOU for your answer about Gagarin, I understand your point of view and am grateful to you for sharing it with me...
I am also very sorry for your friend, may she see the light....

You are welcome and thank you, I hope so.

 

[Alejo]

I have not asked him in depth. She is 37 years old and was on treatment for three months with some drops. If the balls she has reduced in size in three months, there was no need for surgery but apparently she did not do the treatment correctly (if the doctors themselves knew it was correctly what she had, which I highly doubt) and the size increased. She must have surgery and it is $1000. So far I can see that she is a little overweight, stress and the doctors told her she has menopause to complete the picture and that does not help her emotionally. One of the doctor's solutions was that the only way it could be removed was to have a baby or put her on a device to prevent menstruation.

I am waiting for her to send me the echo pictures and a brief description of what she has so I can post them here to see what you guys tell me, in the meantime I am researching and so far some of the information both here and on sott, is diet change mainly and paleo diet, but the problem is she can't eat much meat. As much as you want to help someone, it's more up to her to open up to new information, so well, I've just presented her with the information, but I don't know if she's read it. In addition, a previous illness seems to have accelerated his aging some time ago, and now the vaccine that also affected her... it's a box of surprises, until I have enough information, I can't provide anything more concrete.

Oh man, yeah it sounds rough, and it sounds like you've done all you can? the rest could be up to her I daresay. But I will leave it here, I do not wish to hijack the thread. Will wait for you to post further on elsewhere.

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

Oh man, yeah it sounds rough, and it sounds like you've done all you can? the rest could be up to her I daresay.

I could do more, but it's up to her how much she allows me access to her reality because right now she is in depression mode and hasn't shown up, she is disconnected and I have no idea what she is doing, in that case, the only thing I can do for her is provide her with information (I already did) and respect her time, I don't know her depressive states or how volatile she really is, sometimes even a message of support can be upsetting to some people, depending on their emotional levels. It will depend on her how long she decides to stay in that state since her answer was "when I feel up to it I will read the information, thank you". For the time being I will continue to look for ways to generate income because as we know the world keeps turning no matter what, since the additional help from me would be to support her financially at some point.

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

Greetings,

Well, I am stopping by here again mostly to respond for the good wishes that all of you expressed for the illness of the person who worked with me and because I had agreed to keep all of you posted in case I needed help.

Help will not be necessary and thank you all for the good vibes. The last time I talked to her, she told me that part of her family is taking care of her, sending money from Spain to pay for her treatments here. That's why I didn't post anything else, until now.

On the other hand, it seems that having presented her with the text I shared with you, ignited her red dots and then some. Something short-circuited in her. The situation became absurd enough that it is not worth detailing on that so as not to extend the topic as the dynamics presented are present in many diverse forms in other threads and I do not intend to make this a swamp. Just because of that text that all of you read, which had nothing to do with his personal life, just a message of support to third parties. That's how delicate it is to share knowledge, you never know which vampire will catch fire next to you.

After evaluating his actions and attitudes, I decided to cut off contact with her. I had a hunch that it would happen. We all have a Candy in our lives and a Terry warning us (laughs). These kinds of situations remind me a lot of that part of the Wave.

A person we sympathize a lot but who brings us much more deep down.

I hadn't thought about it until now, but perhaps it was she herself who cancelled everything beforehand, due to the fact that I didn't validate all her thoughts and dashed her false hopes of making easy money by working with me.

An interesting twist at the end.

 

[Alejo]

Well, I am sorry that you lost that connection, but I am glad you found out at a rather inexpensive price, if you will.

It's one of those reasons for me not to share too much from here out there, or at least not directly.

And if it all goes well, her removal from your life could turn into new opportunities, I hope it does.

Thanks for the update!

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

Well, I am sorry that you lost that connection, but I am glad you found out at a rather inexpensive price, if you will.

Thank you, well, it's not that she and I were really "best friends" either and as the Cass taught: "Celebrate the balance. Don't mourn the death of an illusion of an imbalance".

Regarding the cost, I'm contemplating it a lot more now that you mention it.

It's one of those reasons for me not to share too much from here out there, or at least not directly.

Yes, although I have never shared anything from the forum. With this girl she has been the first and only person to whom I mentioned to send me the test to present it here, if she wanted to.

"There are people who have gone through and are going through the same thing as you and maybe they can tell me something about it about the medicines they have taken and the positive effects they have had, it is a forum for objective research on world events, health, among other things, purely serious people" I just said (laughs).

As a curious fact, because there is always something related to the paranormal with these people with whom I interact:

I do not rule out that even so, something had to do with it because he had nothing to lose with that (send me the test) because she told me that she even went to a woman healer in a remote place in the interior of the country, like the witch in the middle of the forest in a movie, and the lady put her hand on his belly and that was it. The lady seems to be able to heal with her hands and is known for that, but she did not heal anything.

I just said: "Maybe because of your core beliefs it had no effect, if she is known for doing that with her hands, it is for a reason. Core beliefs play an important role more than we think".

And maybe, just because of that, she might have had something related to her drastic change as well, I don't rule it out. For less than something like that, surely someone has almost lost their life or seen their pet do it.

The political part is also very delicate. That's why I was saying that we all have a Candy in our lives, on the one hand because of the dynamics with friendship relationships but also the people with whom the people with whom we relate are associated. On the wave there is a lot of talk about people who simply have a relationship with a military man, a member of the CIA and since they are the figures that we have the most in high priority related to this material, we ignore that the fan has only opened a little and is much larger than shown. She also had a kind of frustrated relationship with a Russian and she had strange dreams about it and already that is a terrain that escapes of my hands and ability to face.

And if it all goes well, her removal from your life could turn into new opportunities, I hope it does.

Oh yes!, in addition to new opportunities opening up, there are a number of synchronicities that were present during that interaction that still present themselves separately today through other people who reappeared, especially one of them. Each one brings me something for which I must pay. Because it seems that part of what I had to observe in myself with that interaction, just how much I give when I am within an illusion versus when I am not imprisoned by my own illusion and the reasons for them and all the underlying dynamics.

How one is able to lose oneself, through the same dynamic, with two different people but one under the illusion and the other being as objective as possible and aware of me.

Well, very thank you for the clues. Always opportunely in your words. Sometimes with a few words you say a lot and make one think a lot more.

 

[Alejo]

And maybe, just because of that, she might have had something related to her drastic change as well, I don't rule it out. For less than something like that, surely someone has almost lost their life or seen their pet do it.

well, maybe... people have a hard time when they feel their choices questioned. And I think it is a good test of any relationship, how well they take your words whenever you disagree with them. It's like the scratch test from Gurdjieff, some people remain decent and appreciate it, some correct you, some simply lash out and leave the minute they know you're not someone that will support their worldview.