Trump Elected: The True MAGA Era Begins, Now What?

iamthatis said:
This war with Iran thing that the neocons/Mossad have been dreaming about for decades - I don't see how it's possible. Their weaponry is quiite far advanced from that of Iraq in 2003, including missile defence (they have their own native version of the S-500) and offensive hypersonics.

Plus, they have nukes. I'm not sure, but this is probably known by US/Israeli forces. So an outright war on Iran is off the table, because you literally cannot start a war between nuclear powers. If US/Israeli forces don't know about those nukes, 4D STS sure does, and so will likely prevent their attack dogs from starting a war. Basically, Iran is just too powerful - and the American elites hate it.

So I think their only options are the same tactics that Prouty wrote about in Secret Team, commenting on the changing nature of warfare between nuclear-capable enemies - economic warfare, information warfare, and social warfare, ie. terrorism, psyops, creating internal strife through sanctions, maybe trying to create a West-aligned internal fifth column, something like a domestic ISIS. Or their proxies will continue to fight it out elsewhere. Stuff like that.

But hard times make strong men, and Iran is currently strong because of the imposed hardship, and Iran has strong alliances, too, including military. Increasing the hardship may only strengthen their resolve and those alliances. Even a major false flag directed against the US, blamed on Iran, would run up against the military facts on the ground. I mean, the Pentagon can't even take out the Houthis.

So Trump is making noise, but I don't think it will go anywhere.
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I absolutely agree, not to mention the obvious consequences for the oil trade. So obvious that I would have to conclude that it was intended. It doesn't seem likely, or make any financial sense, yet it's always been on the cards. Because of Israel.

The issue, as always, is Israel. The C's have warned us about insane people in power. There is a certain cold, calculating rationality to their actions but there is also a kind of madness. We don't know how far they would go. We don't know what the changing cosmic environment might also be doing to their rationality, or the disposition of their overlords as they feel the pressure of the approaching changes.

Whatever happens, Trump will fail to deliver on his promises because of Israel. How willingly, I can't say. He doesn't seem particularly disturbed by their actions. They just violated the ceasefire again last night, as predicted. They will resume massacring people. He owns that conflict now and I have little respect left for him.
 
Maybe Trump and Putin are speaking more frequently these days, especially regarding strategic positioning. Trump, as a long-time businessman, can see the growing power of Russia, while Europe continues to struggle with bureaucratic challenges and migration issues. In this context, Trump may be shifting his focus entirely to the Middle East, where the money and oil are. This allows Putin to handle Europe, pushing NATO out of countries like Poland, Slovakia, and Bulgaria. Western Europe will either bend to these pressures or crumble from within, and meanwhile, Trump will capitalize on the resources and opportunities in the Middle East, leaving Europe to its own devices
 
Mayb said:
This allows Putin to handle Europe, pushing NATO out of countries like Poland, Slovakia, and Bulgaria.
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Maybe if NATO dissolves as a whole and even then it seems unlikely that Russia would try to assert dominance over Poland in particular.

Mayb said:
Trump will capitalize on the resources and opportunities in the Middle East
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If that is his plan, then he is doing it in the worst possible way. The resources in the Middle East are all in Muslim countries and Trump's seemingly blind devotion to Israel and its genocidal actions is antagonizing all of them. Other than Jordan or Qatar, the US has basically no Muslim allies left. Even the Emirates joined BRICS already and the Saudis seem to be close to joining too.
 
JEEP said:
This ought to be interesting - I haven't watched it yet, but Larry Johnson generally provides solid information and perspective:


Trumps Biggest Blunder - Yemen's Attack Devastates US Arsenal! | Larry C. Johnson & Mark Sleboda
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Summary of the interviews of Johnson and Sleboda:

Nima Alkhorshid's Interview with Larry Johnson and Mark Sleboda on Yemen, U.S. Foreign Policy, and Middle Eastern Geopolitics

This interview covers a broad range of geopolitical topics, including the U.S. attacks on Yemen, the role of the Houthis, U.S.-Iran tensions, Trump's foreign policy approach, Israel’s role in the region, and broader Middle Eastern conflicts. Mark Sleboda takes over the interview after 22:10.


1. U.S. Attack on Yemen and Its Implications
  • Larry Johnson condemns the U.S. airstrikes on Yemen, calling them unjustified acts of war.
  • The Houthis had upheld a ceasefire, warning only that they would retaliate if Israel continued to block humanitarian aid to Gaza.
  • Despite this, the U.S. attacked Yemen, killing civilians (estimates range from 13 to over 100 deaths).
  • Johnson emphasizes that this was not collateral damage but deliberate killings of innocent people.
2. Houthi Response and the Red Sea Crisis
  • In response, the Houthis allegedly fired missiles at the USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier.
  • The Pentagon has neither confirmed nor denied the attack, fueling speculation.
  • Johnson argues that the U.S. is miscalculating the Houthis' strength—they are a well-organized force with strong retaliatory capabilities.
  • He draws a parallel between the U.S. stance on Yemen and its approach to the war in Ukraine, suggesting Washington is willing to fight until its adversaries are completely eliminated, regardless of consequences.
3. U.S. Justifications vs. Reality in Yemen
  • U.S. politicians like Marco Rubio, Michael Waltz, and Pete Hegseth claim the Houthis are blocking shipping routes and threatening global trade.
  • Johnson refutes this, stating that Israel’s actions in Gaza triggered the crisis, not Houthi aggression.
  • The Houthis have effectively downed multiple U.S. drones, with reports estimating at least 30 MQ-9 Predator drones lost, totaling hundreds of millions of dollars in damage.
  • Johnson also notes that many U.S. airstrikes hit decoys instead of real targets, proving Washington’s struggle to neutralize Houthi forces.
4. The Bigger Picture: U.S. Using Yemen as a Pretext for War with Iran
  • Johnson believes the U.S. is deliberately using the Yemen crisis to justify future military action against Iran.
  • He highlights how the Biden administration previously attempted to weaken Houthi forces but failed, primarily due to their mobile and decentralized missile launch systems.
  • The U.S. is now framing the Houthis as Iranian proxies, despite a lack of clear evidence.
  • This aligns with a long-standing neoconservative push for war with Iran, which Johnson claims has been in motion for at least 30 years.
5. Trump’s Shift Toward War and Zionist Influence
  • Johnson expresses disappointment in Trump, stating that while he campaigned as a "peace president", he is now fully controlled by pro-Israel lobbyists.
  • He accuses Trump of acting as a puppet for Zionist interests, saying that whenever pro-Israel forces demand action, Trump complies without independent thought.
  • Johnson states that Trump had the opportunity to bring peace to Ukraine and Gaza but instead is escalating tensions in both regions.
6. The Regional Impact of a Potential War with Iran
  • If the U.S. attacks Iran, the conflict will not be limited to just those two nations:
    • Other Arab states and Israel would be drawn in.
    • Iran controls key waterways (Strait of Hormuz, Bab el-Mandeb), which could be blocked.
    • A major disruption to global oil supplies could follow, leading to an economic crisis.
  • Johnson warns that Trump’s foreign policy decisions could provoke a wider conflict involving Russia and China, both of whom have military ties to Iran.
7. Mark Sleboda Joins the Discussion at 22:10
  • Sleboda shifts the focus to Trump’s relationship with Israel and Netanyahu, arguing that Trump has fully aligned with Netanyahu’s aggressive policies.
  • Trump has backed Israeli settlements and plans for Palestinian displacement, with efforts to force Palestinians out of Gaza and into countries like Somalia and Egypt.
  • Biden had previously attempted to push Palestinians out of Gaza, but Egypt and Jordan resisted.
  • Trump is now applying economic pressure on Egypt to achieve the same goal.
8. U.S. Hypocrisy in Foreign Policy
  • Sleboda and Johnson highlight how the U.S. justifies its own military actions while condemning those of its adversaries.
  • Sleboda states that the U.S. media falsely portrays Israel as a victim while labeling Palestinian resistance as terrorism.
  • The U.S. bombing of Yemen, which killed civilians, is framed as necessary, while Houthi actions are condemned as terrorism.
  • The U.S. ignores Saudi and UAE involvement in Yemen, focusing instead on Iran as the "real" aggressor.
9. Iran’s Response and the Role of Russia and China
  • Iran refuses to negotiate under U.S. pressure and has indicated it will retaliate if attacked.
  • Russia and China are deepening their military cooperation with Iran:
    • Iran holds joint naval drills with Russia and China.
    • Russia has offered Iran advanced air defense and electronic warfare systems to counter U.S. threats.
  • Sleboda adds that Russia has positioned itself as a mediator and could facilitate U.S.-Iran negotiations, but Iran has little trust in Washington.
  • If the U.S. attacks Iran, Russia and China may intervene militarily.
10. The Future of Trump’s Foreign Policy
  • While Trump is pushing toward conflict with Iran, Sleboda believes he wants to avoid a full-scale war.
  • Instead, Trump’s team is trying to balance U.S. interests, Israel’s demands, and broader strategic objectives.
  • Russia is positioning itself as a mediator, suggesting that it could facilitate U.S.-Iran negotiations.
  • The U.S. may seek a limited conflict rather than an all-out war, but miscalculations could lead to escalation.
11. The Global Power Struggle and China’s Role
  • The U.S. sees China as its main rival, and Trump’s real goal is to pivot toward Asia.
  • However, ongoing Middle Eastern conflicts keep pulling the U.S. back into regional disputes.
  • Sleboda suggests that Trump wants to let Israel do what it wants while preventing a wider war with Iran.
  • Russia may use its leverage over Iran to prevent escalation, but tensions remain high.

Final Takeaways
  1. The U.S. airstrikes on Yemen were unjustified and killed civilians.
  2. The Houthis retaliated, and the situation risks escalating further.
  3. Washington is using Yemen as a pretext to justify future strikes on Iran.
  4. Trump, despite promising peace, is now fully aligned with pro-Israel hardliners.
  5. Iran will not back down, and Russia and China may intervene if tensions escalate.
  6. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is being used to justify broader military interventions.
  7. The U.S. may be miscalculating its ability to neutralize the Houthis.
  8. The potential for a regional war remains high.
  9. Trump’s true foreign policy priority is China, but Middle Eastern tensions are derailing his strategy.
  10. The U.S. risks a multi-front geopolitical crisis.
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Trump now is completely entangled , he looks like a silk scarf in a thorn bush.
To extricate is difficult and without creating tears unavoidable.
Egg all over his face is the least he will worry about.
Russia watches and Iran and China are like hawks . They say nothing
They know that stupidity is contagious .
And then the beginning of sorrows starts.
 
Mayb said:
Maybe Trump and Putin are speaking more frequently these days, especially regarding strategic positioning. Trump, as a long-time businessman, can see the growing power of Russia, while Europe continues to struggle with bureaucratic challenges and migration issues. In this context, Trump may be shifting his focus entirely to the Middle East, where the money and oil are. This allows Putin to handle Europe, pushing NATO out of countries like Poland, Slovakia, and Bulgaria. Western Europe will either bend to these pressures or crumble from within, and meanwhile, Trump will capitalize on the resources and opportunities in the Middle East, leaving Europe to its own devices
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There should be an attack on Iran soon, so the US is distancing itself and wants to stabilize the Ukrainian conflict or force it on Europe to fight with the Russians.
While the US is shifting its focus to Iran.
 
@Adobe
Tulsi in 2018: "It is absolutely outrageous that the United States has continued its support for years now for Saudi Arabia’s genocidal war in Yemen"

Tulsi in 2025: "Trump has taken decisive action [against Yemen] for our own safety, security and prosperity"
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I could swear this reminds me of something specific. I cannot stick my finger on it exactly. Held at gun point?
 
We currently see Trump hitting mithril nails in Israel's coffin (the JFK files), while at the same time seemingly giving a green light to Israel for bombing Palestinian children (+bombing Yemeni children) :ninja:

The Palestinian spec hasn't changed, it was already present during Biden's. The President changed. I find that the continuity should not follow that closely... Does reality really works like this? It's really tit-tat-toe.

Like a cover up to this very bugging situation, Trump goes on ... bombing Yemen. "first month of my mandate - let's bomb Yemen".

There seems to be a buffer of some sort, somewhere in-between.

I do believe that Trump's most urgent needs is to rebuild:

- new US infrastructure
- new US jobs
- US people
(etc)

Something he actually does. Like the JFK files.

And so, if wewere to paint a portrait of "Trump today", we would have something a bit puzzling.
 
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