Trump's Jerusalem decision

Neil said:
Windmill Knight said:
So far I haven't seen anything positive coming from Kushner. I've noticed Meyssan tends to make the mistake of optimism or giving too much benefit of the doubt to all things Trump. I think that, like the Cs said, Trump is 'buying powerful friends', but I have yet to see that any of his admin's actions in the ME will solve anything. Compare and contrast with how Russia sorted out Syria.

A lot of people notice that Trump is not a typical politician, that he has certain aspirations, and they project their hopes onto him. I thought that Trump had a window of opportunity when he was first elected and that if he was a genius he might be able to actually do something. He's smart, but I don't think he's that smart. Reading between the lines of what the Cassiopaeans said in the most recent session, I think this is a desperate self-preservation strategy for Trump and he's hoping against hope that he can turn the tables at some opportune moment. The Zionist lobby is very powerful and could provide a very good shield against the neoliberal/globalists backing the Clintons who are still causing problems for him; running interference against antagonistic factions of the Deep State and giving him room to maneuver. In reality, "buying a Zionist" is like putting a collar on a cobra and taking it to a dog park and expecting to have a relatively peaceful stroll with it; hoping it will only bite the bad dogs or people that deserve to be bitten. When the serpent has had enough of being a pet, it will turn on its owner and anyone else it wants.

I thought Meyssan's piece was an interesting take, because oftentimes there IS a lot more going on than meets the eye. BUT, he tells quite a wild tale about all this based on very little evidence (he doesn't provide sources for his most important claims, yet he implies he knows more about what's happening behind closed doors than even the most senior US administrators!).

As for Trump, as Neil said, it kind of makes sense from his perspective to "make friends" with the Israel lobby - they are powerful, and they are ideologically linked to the "anti-SJW" movement and other forces that oppose Clinton-style neoliberalism. Yet these forces are very "shifty" as well and I'm very skeptical that Trump can handle such powerful forces on his terms. It looks like a pretty desperate move to me.
 
luc said:
Neil said:
Windmill Knight said:
So far I haven't seen anything positive coming from Kushner. I've noticed Meyssan tends to make the mistake of optimism or giving too much benefit of the doubt to all things Trump. I think that, like the Cs said, Trump is 'buying powerful friends', but I have yet to see that any of his admin's actions in the ME will solve anything. Compare and contrast with how Russia sorted out Syria.

A lot of people notice that Trump is not a typical politician, that he has certain aspirations, and they project their hopes onto him. I thought that Trump had a window of opportunity when he was first elected and that if he was a genius he might be able to actually do something. He's smart, but I don't think he's that smart. Reading between the lines of what the Cassiopaeans said in the most recent session, I think this is a desperate self-preservation strategy for Trump and he's hoping against hope that he can turn the tables at some opportune moment. The Zionist lobby is very powerful and could provide a very good shield against the neoliberal/globalists backing the Clintons who are still causing problems for him; running interference against antagonistic factions of the Deep State and giving him room to maneuver. In reality, "buying a Zionist" is like putting a collar on a cobra and taking it to a dog park and expecting to have a relatively peaceful stroll with it; hoping it will only bite the bad dogs or people that deserve to be bitten. When the serpent has had enough of being a pet, it will turn on its owner and anyone else it wants.

I thought Meyssan's piece was an interesting take, because oftentimes there IS a lot more going on than meets the eye. BUT, he tells quite a wild tale about all this based on very little evidence (he doesn't provide sources for his most important claims, yet he implies he knows more about what's happening behind closed doors than even the most senior US administrators!).

As for Trump, as Neil said, it kind of makes sense from his perspective to "make friends" with the Israel lobby - they are powerful, and they are ideologically linked to the "anti-SJW" movement and other forces that oppose Clinton-style neoliberalism. Yet these forces are very "shifty" as well and I'm very skeptical that Trump can handle such powerful forces on his terms. It looks like a pretty desperate move to me.

I used the word angst to describe Kushner, and that has not changed, and agree that Meyssan has a 'wild' narrative running, and as usual in the Middle East, things don't work out most often as intended with so many dynamos running against each other. I'm highly skeptical too that Trump could even possibly deliver something meaningful in the region; yet the Saudi house has certainly realigned itself and that was something not expected - to what end I don't know.

In the mean time, the world leaders (as seen in the vote) lined up at the UN against Trump's moves (and as Neil said, Trump knows to make friends with the Israel lobby), yet they were never rally lined up behind Palestine in the last 70 years so they can never be taken seriously e.g. they react like reeds in the wind blowing this way and that with the prevailing direction.
 
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