Joe Rogan is a very deceptive con artist who without question is a 3rd Density Minion of the 4thDS2S Consortium.
This is *Fear Factor Joe* before he became *Joe Rogan MMA Bro*
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I would need more details for this image to mean very much. Hell's bells! I was a Democrat libtard myself in the beginning even though I had suspicions that all was not well...
I would be very cautious with Tucker and Alex Jones also.
We are always cautious with anyone/everyone, thus the existence of this thread.
I could post detailed files proving AJ is an agent for Mossad and always has been. He is likely a strategically placed Cointel agent from day 1. (And yes I was a fan for a long time until I started paying much closer attention)
We didn't much like Alex Jones years ago. There was a thread about him that I think was moved into archives and was full of "exposure". Same with Jeff Rense and a whole host of the "New Age/Alternative" gang back 20 years or more ago.
But, at present, Alex is saying a lot of the right things. Is he an agent? Possibly. But for the moment, friend of my friend is my friend.
Tucker is very likely a well placed Cointel Pro Agent (similar to Jones) who is lots of truth with highly strategic error. (Project Mockingbird anyone?)
I don't buy this.
How likely is it that any Newscaster could ever rise to such a position of prominence in 3rd Density without being placed there?
He is a Tortoise on top of a lamppost to me. And he is really good at his job of playing the aww shucks, I AM just a humble and ignorant media person.
Lets not forget all of these people are highly paid actors.
Rarely is anyone allowed to have these kind of followings or audiences unless expressly permitted.
It would not surprise me if all 3 of them are in cahoots with one another for the Great Disclosure Psyop that is coming.
Actually, it seems that the "rules" that prevail at higher densities more or less mandate that the truth MUST be made available so that those who choose lies, do so in the presence of truth they have denied. It makes them "tastier" and "juicier." Read:
This is drawn from a series of articles written by a fellow named Michael Topper, who uses the nom de plume “Marshall Telemachus” or even “Mother Terasu” and others. After p…
cassiopaea.org
... where these principles are laid out.
Each of should KNOW from Laura’s incredible work and research that true disclosure is not possible and never coming due to the horrific nature of the truth.
Well, actually, there has been disclosure all along - witness our work, websites, and the work of some others. It's there. It's available for those who are really seeking.
Will there be "official" disclosure. No, probably not. But still, "the truth is out there"...
I also read the transcript from the German Doctor & Tucker convo and his intel meshes well with what the C’s have said about the 4thDS2S Consortium’s goal of creating a society of mentally deranged low vibration humans to reincarnate into at the realm border crossing.
I wouldn't call them "mentally deranged". Psychopaths are not deranged. They are often more normal appearing than you and me. Read Cleckley's "Mask of Sanity".
Seems there isn’t much time left until now until their program is complete and their long ago (past/future/present) planned attack begins.
Oh, it has already begun. Cs pointed out long ago that 4 D battles were represented in our reality as WEATHER. And there is the ongoing battle for minds and hearts. I doubt that there will ever be an "in your face" invasion that can be faced and fought in the way we would like. This warfare is far more subtle than that. Everything is far more ambiguous. And it HAS to be that way because of the RULES of engagement at 4 D. Again, read article linked above.
Thankfully or Hopefully we have 6th Density S2O beings to defend us from 4th Density Nasty Critters.
There will be none of that. It's up to us, and Cs have said this plainly.
Or maybe, we are lucky enough to ride the wave (literally & figuratively) to 4th D S2O New Earth before the final battle of 3rd Density occurs?
I would say that the so-called 'battle' is part and parcel of the Wave itself.
Me, I prefer to mix it up a bit before exiting thuis realm for hopefully the last time.
I don't know what that means?
One last message, Part 1 of Laura’s Podcast with me and Hunter Williams is now only 3 weeks from tomorrow and going to blow the world away. :)
As long as enough people are able to hear and or see it!
Yes, it was a great series of recordings and we'll be glad to see it get launched.
I want to include here a passage from the above linked article entitled "Stalking" that seems to be
a propos. It directly addresses the problem for those who acquire certain knowledge without having yet developed the physical/psychological/psychic system to handle it.
When you acquire new, frightening knowledge, as one does when being exposed to the Cs' material, it can be terribly destabilizing. That is one reason we have this forum. Seeing the unseen reality can cause all kinds of bizarre reactions in a person. One of the most dangerous is that, once a person is exposed, they usually come under serious attack from hyperdimensional spheres in an effort to put them back to sleep. This is described in Gurdjieff's tale of the Evil Magician.
"But there are a thousand things which prevent a man from awakening, which keep him in the power of his dreams. In order to act consciously with the intention of awakening, it is necessary to know the nature of the forces which keep man in a state of sleep.
"First of all it must be realized that the sleep in which man exists is not normal but hypnotic sleep. Man is hypnotized and this hypnotic state is continually maintained and strengthened in him. One would think that there are forces for whom it is useful and profitable to keep man in a hypnotic state and prevent him from seeing the truth and understanding his position.
"There is an Eastern tale which speaks about a very rich magician who had a great many sheep. But at the same time this magician was very mean. He did not want to hire shepherds, nor did he want to erect a fence about the pasture where his sheep were grazing. The sheep consequently often wandered into the forest, fell into ravines, and so on, and above all they ran away, for they knew that the magician wanted their flesh and skins and this they did not like.
"At last the magician found a remedy. He hypnotized his sheep and suggested to them first of all that they were immortal and that no harm was being done to them when they were skinned, that, on the contrary, it would be very good for them and even pleasant; secondly he suggested that the magician was a good master who loved his flock so much that he was ready to do anything in the world for them; and in the third place he suggested to them that if anything at all were going to happen to them it was not going to happen just then, at any rate not that day, and therefore they had no need to think about it. Further the magician suggested to his sheep that they were not sheep at all; to some of them he suggested that they were lions, to others that they were eagles, to others that they were men, and to others that they were magicians.
"And after this all his cares and worries about the sheep came to an end. They never ran away again but quietly awaited the time when the magician would require their flesh and skins."
This tale is a very good illustration of man's position.” (P. D. Ouspensky: In Search of the Miraculous (1950) Routledge and Kegan Paul Ltd London.)
You have to be very careful once you acquire this knowledge because you just ain't smart enough to out-think the manipulations of 4D STS. It takes a network. Without a network against which to test your thoughts, ideas, assumptions, experiences, you are very, very vulnerable.
Again, there is also the problem of taking on information/insights that a person is not prepared for. Recivership capability is very important and that is related to the nature of one's BEing. Knowledge and BEing must advance together. All the old ways of thinking and understanding have to be set aside. Not always forever, but for a time. Some things can be taken back later, and others will be discarded forever.
In other words, you can't think with the way you have been thinking anymore. And this brings me to the passage I want to quote here. In the following quote, things are couched in Sufi terms. Replace the words "scale of the law" with "feedback from a sincere network" that is doing 4th way work. Consider the Cs material as an "unveiling".
So, here is the passage:
Ibn al-‘Arabi addressed this problem in detail. He tells us that “the unveiling that the traveler experiences, (i.e. the results of meditation or acquisition of knowledge) “adds nothing to the principles and corollaries of faith. At most, it fills in some of the details. […] Given that we enter the path and follow the guidance of God, and given that we experience an “unveiling” that makes all sorts of things clear to us that we never understood before, can we be sure that the unveiling is from God? Is there no possibility of satanic intervention and our going astray? Is not a person who claims that he is following his own “tasting” in effect claiming independence and setting up his own religion, at least for himself?”
And the answer he gives is that: “Any knowledge, any “tasting,” any “unveiling,” witnessing or self-disclosure must submit itself to the Scale of the Law. (i.e. networking.)
“The traveler who wants to reach the goal safely must avoid the deceptions that lie in wait for him on the path. Once he has reached the stages of unveiling and witnessing, he will be tempted by Satan and his own caprice to depend upon himself rather than follow the “scale of the law.”
“He must move forward according to the scale of knowledge derived from [networking].
“If a “divine command” should come to him in that which is made manifest to him, that contradicts the scale, then he has been duped.
“Many of those who wish for God have been duped in their states without being aware. This is a hidden deception. a strong divine guile, and a being led on step by step without their being aware.
“Beware lest you throw the Scale from your hand… If you understand from it something different from what the people (meaning those of the path) understand such that your understanding comes between you and them, then do not rely upon your understanding! For it is a deception of the ego in a divine form without your being aware.
“We have come across sincere people among the Folk of Allah who have been duped by this station. They prefer their own unveiling and that which becomes manifest to them in their understanding. They depend upon this in their own case. Anyone who relies upon it is totally confused and has left his affiliation with the Folk, thereby joining the “greatest losers.” Their striving goes astray in the present life, while they think they are working good deeds.”
“When the friends of God climb in the ascents of their aspirations, the goal of their arrival is the Divine Names, since the Divine Names seek them.”
“They receive only in the measure of their own preparedness.
“We do not ask those who have opinions of their own. We say to them, “Has it been revealed [among the Folk, Friends of God?]
If he says yes, then you must weigh it against what you have come to know and what has been said to you. You should also weigh it against what is known to others. This is the scale.
“The spiritual traveller who is not sufficiently rooted in the Scale of the Law may think he no longer has need for it.
“The friends of God witness the angels, but they do not witness the casting itself; or they witness the casting and they know that it was done by an angel, but they do not witness the angel. No one can combine the vision of the angel and the casting except a messenger. This is how the friend is differentiated from the messenger.
“As for how the casting takes place, I can tell you that it occurs through affinity. The heart of him who receives the casting must have the preparedness for what is cast into it. Without it, there is no reception. But preparedness is not identical with reception, since preparedness depends upon divine designation. Indeed, certain souls may walk upon the path which takes them to the door from behind which, when opened, there takes place this specific casting. Then, when they reach the door, they stop until they see that through which it will be opened for them.
“When it is opened, the command emerges one in entity, and they receive it from outside the door to the measure of their preparedness. They perform NO WORKS in achieving this. On the contrary, God specifies each of them with a preparedness.
“It is here that distinctions are drawn among the various groups, between followers, or friends, and those who are messengers.
“He who has no knowledge imagines that traveling to this door is the cause by which was earned that which was gained when opening took place. Were this the case, those who experience the opening would all be equal.
“The states present dangers to the person who experiences them. Though they are divine bestowals, there is always the risk of taking them too seriously, thinking that one has deserved the states, becoming proud, losing one’s mental equilibrium. States are trials that the traveler has to undergo. The sooner they are done with, the better.
“Though “divine inrushes” may come without self-exertion, the traveler who is not prepared for them [is in grave danger.]
“There are three levels of this:
1) When the inrush is greater than the strength of the soul, so it rules over the soul. Such a person has no ability to govern himself.
2) The inrush takes away the person’s rational faculties and nothing is left but animal faculties.
3) The inrush does not last, the state disappears, and the individual is able to return to his fellows with his reason intact. He governs his own affairs, and he understands and acts based on deliberation. Such is a messenger and the friends of God.
“When the inrush is balanced with the individual’s own capacity, no one will even be able to detect that the inrush has occurred. In such a case, even if you do not see anything with your eyes, you notice that something has distracted him from you, as if someone were speaking to him. Or he has suddenly begun to think about something, so his senses turn toward it and his eyes become veiled.
“Sometimes the individual’s capacity is greater than the inrush so that when it comes to him while he is conversing with you, you are aware of nothing. He is able to receive the casting, and to continue to attend to what you are saying.
“The traveler seeks to increase their capacity to receive inrushes so that they will NOT be affected by them.
“They also avoid those states which become manifest as “extraordinary.”
According to the Koran, God is the “Best of Deceivers.”
These deceptions are the many tests to determine if the traveler can “see through” and navigate the path.
“So, preserve yourselves, my brothers, from the calamities of this place, for distinguishing it is extremely difficult! Souls find it sweet, and then within it they are duped, since they become completely enamoured of it.”
[Excerpts from William Chittick’s translation and exegesis:
The Sufi Path of Knowledge, State University of New York, 1989]
I spent 44 years researching and more before I felt that I had any degree of competence to teach others especially on so important a topic with so many ambiguities and subtleties. That is why the Wave series is so long. I came at the topics from many directions to help many people understand, and I think I am pretty precise and careful in my use of words.
I learned from practicing hypnosis that one must take GREAT CARE in using words especially to a person who has submitted their will to me. DO NO HARM. And sometimes, carelessness with words can cause great harm.
Great specificity is required when using language. Because you can bet that in the times ahead of us, literally ever jot and tittle will be accounted for.
In the beginning, it is tempting and easy to see psychopaths and agents everywhere. But we always strive to UNDERSTAND and LEARN as much as possible so that we will not make the mistake of causing harm. I would rather be wrong on the side of giving the benefit of the doubt, than be wrong condemning another unjustly. In the first instance, I think I'm strong enough to learn the lesson of being wrong; in the second case, my being wrong could really harm another person and that would be a black mark against my frequency.
We HAVE learned a lot over the past 30 years, though, and often, we can easily spot at least those who are not interested in learning, or who are pathological in some way. Just as often, it can take a long time to get beneath the surface and find out the truth. It truly does take a network. And it can't be just any group of friends; in this kind of work, it has to be people who are in 'this kind of work'. That, at least, is clear.
So, in cases such as Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, and others, we seek first to analyze carefully based on as much data as we can collect and based on our studies of similar cases. We have a whole list of reading material that helps develop the knowledge necessary to practice what Gurdjieff called "External Considering". (See: In Search of the Miraculous, or use the forum search for discussions of this.) This amounts to having a great knowledge of the self AND of human nature in general, and individuals in specific.
And finally, again, the RULES of engagement seem to mandate that truth tellers have SOME presence, that Truth be available for those who seek for it, otherwise, the 'invasion' can be deemed in violation of Cosmic Law and the consequences to 4D STS are unpleasant.
I hope I haven't bored anyone with this disquisition, but we really should be careful in our analyses.
