UFO and paranormal phenomena in USSR

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There is not much awareness in the West about UFO and paranormal events in Russia. There are people like Paul Stonehill and George Knapp who do talk about such cases, but still a lot is unknown due to a language barrier. I decided to look into it and see if we can gain some insight.

Here is an incident that is very weird and was mentioned both in the Soviet and the West media at the time.

Petrozavodsk phenomenon. Below is the concise version, but you also can read the wiki page about it, including the collage of what people described. On the upper left corner is a supposedly real footage of the object. That was taken with a camera.


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So the question to the C's would be: What exactly happened on September 20, 1977 in the nothern regions of the USSR nd Finland, that later was called a Petrozavodsk phenomenon. What was it? What was the nature of it?

❓PETROZAVODSK Phenomenon (Petrozavodskoye divo) - an anomalous phenomenon that occurred around 4 a.m. on September 20, 1977 and was accompanied by mass UFO sightings in the northern regions of the USSR and in Finland.

❓The most impressive sightings were made in Petrozavodsk, where a huge jellyfish-like object was reported by random night passersby to have hovered over the city.

❓The eyewitnesses first saw the appearance of a bright star that slowly moved from west to east. The visible diameter of the "jellyfish" is estimated to be several more than 100 m, and the hovering altitude of 5-7 km.

❓It passed strictly along Lenin Street, the main street of the city, then stopped, increased in size and took the shape of a luminous jellyfish, while showering the city with many thin ray-like red "hollow jets", which gave the impression of heavy rain.

❓Apparently due to the action of these "jets" in the morning, round holes were found in the windows of the upper floors of the houses. Melted glass "tortillas" were lying on the window sills.

❓ Physicists could not identify the chips, the physical nature of these rays was also unclear, since even a powerful laser does not produce such an even, crack-free chip. Rarely at such an early morning, cars were stopped by stalled engines under the influence of this "something".

❓ After hovering over the main street UFO moved to the port area on Lake Onega, hovered over the dry cargo ship "Volgobalt" and repeated irradiation for 10-12 minutes. Then it departed upwards over the lake.

❓The reports about these observations leaked to the press, before and after that did not publish information about UFO sightings. In addition to this object in neighboring settlements eyewitnesses saw dozens of other unidentified objects.

["Izvestia", "Pravda", "Soviet Russia", 23.09.1977].

Here's an article in English about it.

And there is also anomalous zone that is similar to Skinwalker Ranch. Specifically the "Molebsky triangle". The concise version is below:

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🛸 MOLEBSKY TRIANGLE (M- triangle or Perm zone) is a well-known geoanomalous zone located opposite the village of Molebki (on the border of the Perm and Sverdlovsk regions) on the left bank of the Sylva River.

🛸 The discoverer of this zone is the Perm geologist Emil BACHURIN, who in the winter of 1983 discovered among the snow a circular trace with a diameter of 62 meters.

🛸 Thanks to the propaganda activities of journalist Pavel MUKHORTOV from Riga, many fans of the mysterious in the USSR and abroad learned about the existence of the zone, and the peak of visits to the zone by numerous amateur and professional expeditions came in 1989-1991.

🛸 Further research showed the presence of a strong biolocation anomaly in the zone.

🛸 Huge black figures, glowing orbs and other bodies were observed in the zone, allegedly demonstrating intelligent behavior: they lined up in regular geometric figures, watched expedition members, flew away when approaching a stranger, etc.

🛸 In September 1999, during the 70th Cosmopoisk expedition, sound mirages were repeatedly observed in this area.

🛸 Everyone present several times clearly heard the sound of an approaching motor, a "humming car" even drove out into the clearing, but.... no one saw the car itself. According to the tracks in the surrounding taiga, there had been no cars at all for many months.

🛸 The location of the zone is quite well known to ufologists and tourists. In the early 1990s, when the number of visits to the zone by tourists exceeded the permissible limits, it became almost impossible to conduct any research in the area (there were cases of falsification of traces of alleged UFOs, which were made by tourists for joking purposes).

🛸 In the press there was information that the Perm anomalous zone ceased to exist, and in the mid-90s, the tourist business in this place significantly decreased.

There is much more information about the Molebsky zone and the research/measurements that were done there.

The question to the C's: Is the the Molebsky triangle in Russia an anomalous zone similar to the SkinwalkerRange. If so, what is the nature of the phenomena. If not, in what way it is dissimilar and what is the nature of what was happening there.
 
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Dear Keit,

Yep, i have heard of a lot Karelia cases.
There are a lot of Soviet military commanders revelations about UFOs in that region as well.

"UFO accident": what abnormal event happened in Karelia after Gagarin's flight

"Petrozavodsk phenomenon" is the name of the anomalous phenomena that took place in the Karelian capital in the late 1970s. But it turns out that back in 1961, just a few days after Gagarin's flight, inexplicable events began to occur in Karelia. It was then that a local forester came across a huge pit with black balls on the Corbozer. Some sources report that around 8 a.m. on April 28, 1961, that is, just 15 days after the legendary flight of Yuri Gagarin, people living near Korbozer, a small branch of Lake Onega, saw a rounded object in the sky that was moving low above the ground. Suddenly, the object changed its trajectory, cutting an angle, hit the ground, but there was no catastrophe. The object continued to fly and soon disappeared from sight. However, M.B. Gerstein, the author of the Encyclopedia of UFOs, claims that local residents interviewed by police officers, on the contrary, showed that they did not observe anything like this that morning. Unexplained phenomena followed after the discovery of the "consequences of the UFO turn." They were found on the same day by forester V.M. Brodsky. He immediately informed the military and the KGB. Sappers of the Leningrad Military District, including mine clearance specialist V.I. Demidov, as well as divers with all necessary equipment arrived at Korbozero. Apparently, the listed persons appeared on the spot only a few days later, because residents, especially women, informed the police that for two nights after Brodsky made his sensational find, they heard a rumble from the lake that resembled the noise of aircraft engines.

Divers could not find any unidentified flying object at the bottom of the Corbozer. But the experts had enough work without it. The fact is that without any explosion, a crater 27 meters long, 15 meters wide and about 3 meters deep formed on the shore of the lake. One end of the pit almost touched the reservoir, and its continuation was a huge sagebrush, pierced by an unknown object in the lake ice. At the bottom there was earth and patches of frozen turf, which lay in narrow and long "paths". Experts also noticed that very little ice floated in the polynya. Most likely, the impact was so fast and strong that the ice simply did not rise to the surface, but was pressed to the bottom. According to Andrey Suldin, author of the publication "History of the USSR", experts found small black balls in the pit, painted from below in a bright emerald color. The collected "grains" were sent for analysis. It turned out that they are not destroyed either in sulfuric acid or in its mixture with hydrofluoric acid. From the "grains" it was only possible to obtain a powder (in general, the balls were easily rubbed just between the fingers), which, however, also did not dissolve even in hydrochloric acid. Leningrad chemists unequivocally stated that such balls are of non-natural origin, and can be produced only with high-temperature processes.


The researchers concluded that the unidentified body collided with the ground at high speed, tore out the frozen soil, part of which was found in the water. Then the object (most likely cylindrical in shape) drilled through the bottom of the Corbozer, not only leaving a characteristic trail behind it, but also pushing the ground in front of it, forming a shaft about 1.5 meters high. The version about the meteorite was immediately excluded, as well as the versions about the explosive device and the spy plane. The specialists found themselves in a difficult situation. Moreover, the analyses of the seized black balls, as well as soil and water, did not show any deviations from the norm. Even the radiation level was within acceptable limits. The mystery of Korbozer was never solved. But the incredible incidents did not end there. In 1970, ufologist Yu.M. Raitarovsky came to the site of the "UFO accident", who noticed that the funnel was literally buried in all kinds of vegetation. 8 years later, an expedition led by E.S. Gorshkov visited the same place. The members of the expedition, like Raitarovsky, drew attention to the exuberant flora. Actually, at that time the crater was already completely absorbed by the forest. And this despite the fact that the pit, left over from some construction of the pre-war years, was perfectly visible. In 1979, when the mine clearance specialist V.I. Demidov visited Korbozero again, several more water samples were taken, but again nothing abnormal was found.

 
There is a strange story about angel figures that cosmonauts saw while onboard Salyut-7 station in the 80's.

"Seven Angels: what the Salyut-7 cosmonauts actually saw in orbit

In the 1980s, the cosmonauts on the Salyut-7 station witnessed an unexplained phenomenon. Despite the fact that a similar picture was observed by American astronauts, the information about what happened was classified.

"Salyut-7"

On April 19, 1982, the Salyut-7 station, which was a modernized version of the Salyut-6 station, was launched into Earth orbit. The complex of scientific equipment of the new station was enriched with such devices as X-ray telescope RT-4M, installation "Kristall" with electric furnaces "Magam-F" and "Korund", biotechnological installation "Tavriya", medical equipment with diagnostic function "Aelita", French photographic equipment "Piramig" for studying extraterrestrial space.

It was the extraterrestrial space that later surprised the Soviet cosmonauts. It was originally planned that Salyut-7 would serve for 5 years and host 5 major expeditions, but the station lasted much longer. In total, 6 main expeditions and 5 visiting expeditions visited the station during its operation until 1991.

In February 1984, another manned spacecraft Soyuz T-10, commanded by Leonid Kizim, went to Salyut-7. Also on board the ship were flight engineer Vladimir Solovyov and cosmonaut-researcher Oleg Atkov. They became "old-timers" of "Salyut-7", then "guests" joined them: Svetlana Savitskaya, Igor Volk and Vladimir Dzhanibekov. All of them were destined to witness an unexplained phenomenon, information about which was classified in those years.

Angels in Space

On the 155th day of the flight, commander Leonid Kizim transmitted to Earth, probably one of the most unusual messages in the history of space exploration. As Anatoly Bernatsky writes in 100 Great Mystical Mysteries, Kizim said that an orange cloud of unknown origin appeared on the path of the Salyut-7 station. While the Mission Control Center was analyzing the information received, the station entered the cloud.

Immediately the orange glow, like a gas, "penetrated" inside. The blinding light enveloped each cosmonaut, and for a few seconds they all lost the ability to see. When their sight returned, the space conquerors looked out the portholes in search of answers to the questions that had arisen at that moment. On the other side of the solid glass the astronauts saw 7 giant figures.

There was no doubt in anyone's mind that the angels in front of them were real angels. It is not known whether the figures had wings or halos around their heads, because Kizim and his comrades were struck by something else - the expression of angelic faces. Astronauts later recalled that the creatures, noticing the close attention of people, turned to them, smiles shone on their faces. Remarkably, the cosmonauts claimed these were not welcoming smiles, rather they expressed delight and joy.

"We don't smile like that," the occupants of Soyuz-7 told the crew. After 10 minutes, the angels disappeared along with the cloud. Later, the cosmonauts were examined by medics, but no abnormalities were detected. Miracles in orbit It was forbidden to talk about such phenomena at that time. Therefore, it is not surprising that the report of the astronauts immediately ended up in a folder under the heading "Top Secret".

However, in fact, strange incidents in space, which could not be explained by science, have never been rare. For example, Vladislav Volkov reported hearing a dog barking from the darkness. "It sounded to me like the voice of our Laika (a dog that died in orbit)" - Volkov said. Then the cosmonaut clearly heard a baby crying and someone's voices. Georgy Grechko recalled that when he flew over Cape Horn, where many ships crashed in ancient times, he was seized by an unpleasant sense of danger, from which he barely got rid of.

Yuri Gagarin, as well as Grechko and other cosmonauts, mentioned the electronic-like music he heard while in orbit. As Anton Pervushin writes in his book "Space Mythology", test cosmonaut Sergei Krichevsky, largely thanks to whom the experts paid attention to this topic, called such visions "Solaris effect" with a reference to the novel of the same name by Stanislav Lem in 1961.

Most astronauts felt the "Solaris effect" on themselves, when, being in orbit, "reincarnated" in other entities. And cosmonaut Valentin Lebedev in his memoirs told of "flashes in the eyes." However, scientists have already explained this phenomenon: this phenomenon is associated with the passage of high-energy cosmic particles through the eyeball.

The story was also told on History Channel:


Question to the C's: On 12th of July, 1984, while on board Salyut-7 station, several cosmonauts encountered an orange cloud on the path of the station. As the station continued moving, it entered the cloud, and the orange gas penetrated the station and engulfed the cosmonauts. Then they were blinded by a strong light, and when they were able to see again, they saw seven giant angelic figures floating in space in front of the station. The angels looked at them with an expression of delight and pure joy. After 10 minutes, the angels disappeared along with the cloud. The question is, what really happened to the cosmonauts, and who were the angels?

Another question to the C's: There are other examples of cosmonauts while in space hearing strange noises, electronic music, baby crying or dog barking (the cosmonaut though it was Laika, the dog who died in space). What is the nature of these experiences?
 
There is not much awareness in the West about UFO and paranormal events in Russia. There are people like Paul Stonehill and George Knapp who do talk about such cases, but still a lot is unknown due to a language barrier. I decided to look into it and see if we can gain some insight.

Here is an incident that is very weird and was mentioned both in the Soviet and the West media at the time.

Petrozavodsk phenomenon. Below is the concise version, but you also can read the wiki page about it, including the collage of what people described. On the upper left corner is a supposedly real footage of the object. That was taken with a camera.


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So the question to the C's would be: What exactly happened on September 20, 1977 in the nothern regions of the USSR nd Finland, that later was called a Petrozavodsk phenomenon. What was it? What was the nature of it?



Here's an article in English about it.

And there is also anomalous zone that is similar to Skinwalker Ranch. Specifically the "Molebsky triangle". The concise version is below:

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There is much more information about the Molebsky zone and the research/measurements that were done there.

The question to the C's: Is the the Molebsky triangle in Russia an anomalous zone similar to the SkinwalkerRange. If so, what is the nature of the phenomena. If not, in what way it is dissimilar and what is the nature of what was happening there.
Good afternoon, there is a good impartial researcher of anomalous phenomena in the Russian Federation, Mikhail Gerstein. If, suddenly, you haven't read it, then I highly recommend it. It is also available on youtube. He has a good lecture on anomalous places, and the conclusion he draws is that all lights can appear and disappear at a certain time. I.e. they were not stable. He also has an explanation about the Petrozavodsk phenomenon, I do not remember, in my opinion, he does not consider it abnormal. and related to the launch of space objects of the USSR
 
Good afternoon, there is a good impartial researcher of anomalous phenomena in the Russian Federation, Mikhail Gerstein. If, suddenly, you haven't read it, then I highly recommend it. It is also available on youtube. He has a good lecture on anomalous places, and the conclusion he draws is that all lights can appear and disappear at a certain time. I.e. they were not stable. He also has an explanation about the Petrozavodsk phenomenon, I do not remember, in my opinion, he does not consider it abnormal. and related to the launch of space objects of the USSR

Thank you for the recommendation :flowers:

I guess this thread will have to be updated whenever the questions would be answered.:-) First, if you know Russian, I recommend vising this site, because it has all the recent sessions translated into Russian, and also all the recent Cassiopaea substack articles. There is also a special section that has sessions specifically about Russia and Putin.

Here's the excerpt about Petrozavodsk phenomenon and Molebsky triangle in Russian.

And here is an excerpt in English from this session:

(Keit) What exactly happened on September 20, 1977 in the northern regions of the USSR and Finland, that later was called a Petrozavodsk phenomenon. What was it?

(L) Describe it, inquiring minds want to know. Keit, where are you? [Temporarily off camera]

(Approaching Infinity) If she's not there, I can describe it.

(L) All right, Approaching Infinity, describe it.

(Approaching Infinity) It was a UFO with multiple sightings. It was over the town and there's allegedly even a low quality photograph of it, and it basically looks like a circular flying saucer with these streamers coming out of it. And so they called it like a jellyfish phenomenon, and that's really all the details I remember. It was just this... it was there for a while. Lots of people saw it, and basically, the drawings of it looked a saucer with these kind of tendrils or something coming out of it above the town, and they called it the Petrozavodsk phenomenon because that was the name of the town where it occurred.

(Andromeda) Did it move, or did it just appear and stayed stationary?

(Approaching Infinity) I think it was stationary, but I'm not a hundred percent sure.

(Andromeda) Like plasma?

(Approaching Infinity) Yeah... Keit just posted about it on the forum. I can bring it up to read the description really quick.

UFO and paranormal phenomena in USSR | Cassiopaea Forum

(L) 1977. Wow, that's bizarre! All right. What the heck was it?
A: Mass transfer between densities.
Q: (L) Are you suggesting that it was a chunk of 4D that was transferred to 3D?
A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) A "chunk of 4D"?
(L) Well, how else are you going to put it? A mass transfer of what?
A: Status.
Q: (Approaching Infinity) Like 4D status?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was it like a ship?
A: Similar but would not be seen as a "ship" on 4D.
Q: (L) Was it alive?
A: Something like that.
Q: (Joe) Was it to do with transferring, creating a variable 4D environment beneath the area of Finland or Russia?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is this something that's just kind of really hard to conceptualize in our reality?
A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) What was the purpose of it?
(Chu) Here is the image. [On screen]
Jellyfish-like UFO

(Gaby) And why did it happen?
(Joe) Is that a picture or a drawing?
(Niall) It looks like a photo.
(Andromeda) Is it like a symbol of a type of energy status?
(Niall) It looks a bit like that lightning that happened...
(Andromeda) The sprites...
(Joe) What was the purpose of it?
A: No purpose. The conditions allowed the transfer. Those of 4D involved were surprised as well.
Q: (L) So in other words, like a grand window falling event without an actual window faller?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Well, you know, it's a weird world!
(Keit) Is the Molebsky triangle in Russia an anomalous zone similar to the Skinwalker Ranch?
A: Close.
(Keit) What is the nature of the phenomenon?
A: Thinning of the "veil".
(Keit) What is the nature of what was happening there?
A: Energetic transfers.
Q: (L) Was it like a portal?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Bizarre.
 
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Thank you for the recommendation :flowers:

I guess this thread will have to be updated whenever the questions would be answered.:-) First, if you know Russian, I recommend vising this site, because it has all the recent sessions translated into Russian, and also all the recent Cassiopaea substack articles. There is also a special section that has sessions specifically about Russia and Putin.

Here's the excerpt about Petrozavodsk phenomenon and Molebsky triangle in Russian.

And here is an excerpt in English from this session:
Thank you, I'm studying the site using the link. It will be interesting to read about Putin in particular))
 
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