UFO In Jerusalem Over Mt Temple: Look For Flash ( Excellent Footage! )

[Mikey]

The lights and various lens flares would not remain static when a camera panned across them.

Here you make an error I think. The first camera does not pan. The video is filmed off an TV or computer screen by a second camera. The video on the screen is indeed static in motion. You can see the screen pixels when the second camera zooms in.

I believe we can call this hoax for what it is at this point. Though, interestingly, people still seem to have fallen hard for it.

We should be more careful before say anything definite!

I think it's pretty easy to show that the third video is a hoax. It's pretty obvious that it is a still picture, being filmed as the background. The lens flare lighting effects don't change at all with the movement of the camera.

See above.

 

[Mikey]

I have to disappoint you/me it's maybe a hoax: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdd1XBX74Dk

Yeah, in this video it looks as if they are on a rocking ship. :)

The "rocking ship" effect is just the rest movement of a not completely movement stabilized video!

That the background (city) seems to move differently than the foreground (wall and person) is caused -- in my opinion -- by the strong video compression. In technical terms, those are called B-frames, which encode the relative movements between the frames. The wall is lower in contrast than the city lights, so the algorithm encodes it differently. In other words, the used video encoding algorithm reduces the accuracy of movements, in the same fashing as the JPEG encoding algorithm reduces the accuracy of the shapes.

Judging from the various debungking videos on youtube, there seems to be a huge cover up going on!

This is the first thing I thought too. If you look at videos taken from newer cell phones/smart phones, something about the compression or the way the video is taken does make this effect happen.

I would agree to that.

 

[Woodsman]

The lights and various lens flares would not remain static when a camera panned across them.

Here you make an error I think. The first camera does not pan. The video is filmed off an TV or computer screen by a second camera. The video on the screen is indeed static in motion. You can see the screen pixels when the second camera zooms in.

I believe we can call this hoax for what it is at this point. Though, interestingly, people still seem to have fallen hard for it.

We should be more careful before say anything definite!

I think it's pretty easy to show that the third video is a hoax. It's pretty obvious that it is a still picture, being filmed as the background. The lens flare lighting effects don't change at all with the movement of the camera.

See above.

Oh boy! I'm not so sure now.

I was under the impression that the lines of light in lens flare tracked with the center of the camera lens; that is, the flare 'bloom' would rotate as the camera panned across a scene. I went to look for examples which would clearly indicate the difference between what I was certain was a static image and a real scene.

I needed to find a shot of a city at night with flaring lights. There are many where car head lights flare and the flare changed shape as they move across the screen, but I need one where the lights themselves were stationary, the video was in focus and of good resolution and where the camera operator was panning. After a long-ish search, I found this. . .

http://www.thoughtequity.com/video/clip/331410_007.do

Well, well! It seems my memory of the effect I was basing my judgment on was false. Lens flare blooms of the sort in the Temple Mount video are apparently behaving correctly as per a real video.

Also. . , I know that YouTube videos undergo re-compression some time after upload. That is, you can watch them almost immediately after they've been uploaded, but the YouTube engines will re-crunch the data and try to make it fit more efficiently and look better, and that their re-compressed version will replace the original after some hours. I don't know if that plays into account here, but I know my first impression yesterday of this video was very different than my impression today.

It's also possible that I was under some sort of influence. I 'felt' very, very certain of myself, and I didn't stop to question that feeling.

Anyway, I'm now rather more intrigued by this.

 

[Woodsman]

Yeah, in this video it looks as if they are on a rocking ship. :)

The "rocking ship" effect is just the rest movement of a not completely movement stabilized video!

That the background (city) seems to move differently than the foreground (wall and person) is caused -- in my opinion -- by the strong video compression. In technical terms, those are called B-frames, which encode the relative movements between the frames. The wall is lower in contrast than the city lights, so the algorithm encodes it differently. In other words, the used video encoding algorithm reduces the accuracy of movements, in the same fashing as the JPEG encoding algorithm reduces the accuracy of the shapes.

I generally discounted the rocking ship aspect of the video because I didn't know enough about compression artifacts. However, the flash effect illuminating the back side of the second observer struck me as odd. Maybe another compression effect due to contrast compensation. . ?

I definitely need to review my original reactions. They came on fast and clear.

It's so hard to trust oneself!

 

[Laurentien2]

It's so hard to trust oneself!

Don't be to hard upon yourself, Woodsman.

As the saying goes, do not believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.

It is hard upon every one, that why networking is the way to go, learning is fun but it is hard work as well. ;)

 

[Mikey]

It's so hard to trust oneself!

So true, especially in those matters. I'm still open regarding the first two videos, but to be honest, sceptical about the third video (the UFO close up). I've looked at it again very closely.

First of all, it's strange that it was filmed off an computer screen. Why not release the original? Also, the audio seems to be copied over directly and does not come indirectly from loudspeakers. The audio quality is too good for that.

Second, the city background looks a lot as if it was taken with a regular photo camera, taken via long exposure. Plus, you can see the typical artefacts of very strong image compression (like JPEG), especially around the streetlights (I've marked them in the attached image). The problem is, even those artefacts are completely static. Even if it was filmed by a statically mounted camera, there should be at least a minimal fluctuation in those artefacts, but there isn't. So it would be reasonable to suspect that the author of this video just took a normal photograph and overlaid it with some kind of glowing light. Then he filmed it off his computer screen and shook his camera to make it more realistic.

That does not mean that the first two videos are fake. The third one could be a cover up for the first two. I just don't know any more.

 

[anart]

I definitely need to review my original reactions. They came on fast and clear.

It's so hard to trust oneself!

I just want to interject here for a second to say that it's impressive to see how you are capable of taking on new information, even when you were sure of your initial impressions. Not everyone can do that - and it's a vitally crucial thing to be able to do. In fact, even this topic ends up being completely understood and your initial impression was correct, the point is to be able to keep one's mind open enough to continue to take in information and adjust ones understanding accordingly - even when it goes against previously held impressions or beliefs! Without the ability to do that, a person is lost completely. Networking works!

That does not mean that the first two videos are fake. The third one could be a cover up for the first two. I just don't know any more. Shocked

True - and all of it could be a distraction from other things seen in the sky these days!

 

[celtic]

I agree. The lights do seem to be part of the larger object. You know, I have always believed that life existed on other planets and or in different realms-dimensions...However, my concern is whether these beings will be working in the best interest of mankind or of themselves.

Hi Gaiamystery if you have not already I would encourage you to read the wave series

cassiopaea.com
cassiopaea.org

And also vist the newbies section.

I just want to interject here for a second to say that it's impressive to see how you are capable of taking on new information, even when you were sure of your initial impressions. Not everyone can do that - and it's a vitally crucial thing to be able to do. In fact, even this topic ends up being completely understood and your initial impression was correct, the point is to be able to keep one's mind open enough to continue to take in information and adjust ones understanding accordingly - even when it goes against previously held impressions or beliefs! Without the ability to do that, a person is lost completely. Networking works!

I totally agree 100% Anart I come to learn that networking is vitally important. No one man can do anything alone epescially in this world. I come here to the forum and get a lot of my answers solved because it is others with questions and thoughts just like me.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

True - and all of it could be a distraction from other things seen in the sky these days!

Like the multiple videos of that comet. Any time anything important/revealing is happening, there seems to always be a distraction along with it. And if this UFO is not the distraction in question, then I'd expect another diversionary tactic like a terrorist attack or "shocking" political revelation or something else. The real meat and potatoes of Joe's article, as I saw it, are the links with truly escalating signs of the times. You can't look at all these things and not see that something is definitely "up". A video can be fake, but all those bizarre events are not fake, and they are escalating.

 

[Gaiamystery]

I agree. The lights do seem to be part of the larger object. You know, I have always believed that life existed on other planets and or in different realms-dimensions...However, my concern is whether these beings will be working in the best interest of mankind or of themselves.

Hi Gaiamystery if you have not already I would encourage you to read the wave series

cassiopaea.com
cassiopaea.org

And also vist the newbies section.

I just want to interject here for a second to say that it's impressive to see how you are capable of taking on new information, even when you were sure of your initial impressions. Not everyone can do that - and it's a vitally crucial thing to be able to do. In fact, even this topic ends up being completely understood and your initial impression was correct, the point is to be able to keep one's mind open enough to continue to take in information and adjust ones understanding accordingly - even when it goes against previously held impressions or beliefs! Without the ability to do that, a person is lost completely. Networking works!

I totally agree 100% Anart I come to learn that networking is vitally important. No one man can do anything alone epescially in this world. I come here to the forum and get a lot of my answers solved because it is others with questions and thoughts just like me.

Hello Celtic, thanks. I will be sure to read the wave series and visit the newbie sections.

 

[Woodsman]

I just want to interject here for a second to say that it's impressive to see how you are capable of taking on new information, even when you were sure of your initial impressions. Not everyone can do that - and it's a vitally crucial thing to be able to do. In fact, even this topic ends up being completely understood and your initial impression was correct, the point is to be able to keep one's mind open enough to continue to take in information and adjust ones understanding accordingly - even when it goes against previously held impressions or beliefs! Without the ability to do that, a person is lost completely. Networking works!

Thanks. It was definitely one of the hardest things I've ever had to learn, and I must say that it was largely due to my interactions with and reading of the work done here over the years that even made the nature of the challenge evident.

I'm sure I'm not unique in this pattern of learning about ego; That is, I still struggle with it, though things are easier. In the beginning, when my monkey was largely in charge, I'd feel shoot-the-messenger anger when I was shown to be wrong. That seems quite an alien concept now, thankfully. But then that changed to anger with myself when in error, which is also destructive and disrespectful to the creation. I still have to struggle with that one, but not nearly as much as earlier years.

Mostly these days, my primary fear is that I might have put something destructive into a valuable dialogue and thus misled people. That's the thing which really freezes my innards; that and being afraid of being labeled a disruptive force and ejected. (A *very* primary fear, I know. Herd thinking to the max, but there it is. I think that belongs almost in a different category). I'm not sure what the answer to that one is, except to breathe deeply, do the best I can in spite of those fears, and trust that my chosen company, being on this particular path of learning, are wise enough to exercise critical thinking and not be afraid to offer correction when needed, and in general, not be easily misled.

Networking is indeed very valuable! :)

 

[Cosmos]

another video from this sighting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RF87eEUXmM&feature=autoplay&list=ULn3caNI70wL0&index=1&playnext=1

 

[Keit]

another video from this sighting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RF87eEUXmM&feature=autoplay&list=ULn3caNI70wL0&index=1&playnext=1

That's interesting. Group of Israeli youngsters are driving back home after going out. They are talking, laughing, etc. One of them drank too much (from the video it is also clear that he speaks or at least curses in Russian) and is begging his friends to stop the car. After awhile they stop it, he comes out, and after that the girl comes out to see what he is doing. This is when the rest of them probably notice that they are looking at something, and this is when they record the object. They are all very surprised and even frightened, especially after seeing the flash.

 

[Nicholas]

I have noticed that three of the four videos now show the flash before the object zooms up into the sky. Makes me have doubts on the third tourist video that doesn't show the bursts of lights.

 

[Cosmos]

all three videos syncronized: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggzl8z9Csho