Uk - Horrific Stabbing & other events

Matty F said:
The worry is it gets so bad that the people will plead with the government to do something. I’m guessing the government have all the draconian legislation written up already.
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I think this is what will happen if the riots don't stop. Ultimately this will be used as the justification for more draconian powers and such powers will be supported by a portion of society that feel like the country is heading towards a state of emergency.

I'm seeing videos of people literally attacking each other on the streets based on nothing but race. Things up north are looking particularly violent from the video clips. It's also crazy how many young kids are involved - in some clips it looks like whole families are out on the streets.

I don't think the violence from the mobs out on the streets will result in whatever it is they want. I also don't think they can "overthrow" the government if that's what they think this will all lead to.
 
Listen to this guy:


Reading between the lines, he's essentially saying that there needs to be a revolution. I'm not fan of Starmer but he's only been in for a month yet he's being accused of all sorts. All the buzz words being used too "socialist" "marxism" etc.

Actually, I'm thinking this is quite serious now as it sounds like if the government doesn't do what the rioters are asking for, then the rioters will look to overthrow the government. Is that even possible? Maybe we are headed to a nationwide state of emergency in the coming weeks. 🤷
 
I doubt the government will get overthrown. There is simply not enough unification among people for that at all. I suspect this is like a carefully managed safety value to let the peasants blow off steam and to justify more controls upon them. There has never been a successful revolt in this country in centuries and the establishment are too good at manipulating and brainwashing the population. Look at how they steered Brexit into oblivion! Oh no. They have much too much control over people here. We're far too nice. Too trusting. Too tolerant. It will need to be like 1789 French revolution levels of violence. I can't see that happening. This is just looting and smashing stuff up it's mindless uncontrolled rage. There is no direction.
 
Jebra said:
I doubt the government will get overthrown. There is simply not enough unification among people for that at all. I suspect this is like a carefully managed safety value to let the peasants blow off steam and to justify more controls upon them. There has never been a successful revolt in this country in centuries and the establishment are too good at manipulating and brainwashing the population. Look at how they steered Brexit into oblivion! Oh no. They have much too much control over people here. We're far too nice. Too trusting. Too tolerant. It will need to be like 1789 French revolution levels of violence. I can't see that happening. This is just looting and smashing stuff up it's mindless uncontrolled rage. There is no direction.
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I hope you are right. I agree that they can't overthrow the government. Ignoring the foot soldiers on the streets I do think the guys above the foot soldiers do have an agenda and that appears to be the seizing of power. I think the elections being called early was a move to undercut this movement from firmly taking hold and seizing parliament via reform UK. Now they have to wait a number of years which will give Labour / Conservatives enough time to mobilise and plan on how to keep the likes of Tommy Robinson (or similar) from being the next British Prime Minister 😳.

Also, how many migrants are in the country now? According to this (How Many Immigrants Are in the UK? - UK Immigration Data | IAS.), it's at least 10 million people. What's the solution if someone like Tommy Robinson became PM? Round all 10 million up? And do what next? 😳

Anyways, tomorrow is Monday, maybe it'll go quiet for a bit and then the chaos will resume next weekend. Football is also starting soon.
 
Tuulikki said:
Like him or dislike him, you have to feel a bit of sympathy for Keir Starmer. Only Prime Minister for a month and he is having to deal with widespread rioting which seem to be escalating exponentially, plus a 20 billion black hole in the treasury. He must be thinking Labour's election wasn't as fortuitous as he first thought.
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Asked my 3rd degree mason friend what this means, this is all I revealed to him and his reply is below the snip
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No sympathy.
 

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Here's a good analysis of the situation from someone who has lived in this country a lot longer than I have. We've had worse riots than this, it's not even that uncommon to have rioting somewhere in the summer. The difference here is that the government rhetoric is not calming the situation but both exaggerating it and inflaming tensions.


Also, after almost a year of huge crowds waving Palestinian flags, and relatively little violence, we now have scenes like this. Who benefits?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820613898673729838

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820557833953505383
 
The next big trigger, it seems obvious to me, will be the verdict in the Southport stabbing case. Watch carefully how the government prepares to address the fallout from that, if it turns out to be a fairly lenient sentence. Something like mitigating circumstances on the basis of mental health issues. If he isn't convicted of murder, or he is but the sentence is short, then chaos seems inevitable.
 
Thank you Ben for the Alexanders video :thup:

We see the problem of borders, that is to say limits, now almost everywhere at all human and national levels, etc.
The traumas go beyond the limits, which are neither recognized nor restored and so the abuses take place.
This is a very organized and long-awaited destruction; it is a superior means of governments' conduct over their population in order to destroy them through absurdity.
The organization of chaos !
 
Twitter has made things worse, it's a cesspit at the moment for agitators trying to stir things up, like Ian Miles Cheong. Also, did anyone notice Musk has been going after Starmer, I wouldn't be surprised if all this is just the response to the 'UK reportedly suspends arms export licence applications for Israel ‘pending review’. I've got off musk lately and Alex jones after their response to the Venezuela election.
 
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