Very Real Pyrokinesis video

Woodsman

The Living Force
Pashalis said:
all I can say about this man and this video is that we should be very careful.
there are some darn good magicians and illusionist out there and it is sometimes almost impossible to find out what kind of tricks they use.

I've experienced this myself I saw videos were people did something strange and I couldn't find any real explanation ,
then it was easy to believe them that they really possess those forces.
but then after I searched for answers of how they did it, I came to pretty good explanations and I was like: "Oh my god :shock: it is that easy ! how the hell couldn't I noticed that ?" I was even able to make those tricks myself (before I knew how this works , I believed that this is a miracle).

you know, I know a little bit about magic and illusionism and it is a art fore itself.
when I saw this man a few things stood out for me (I couldn't saw the subtitles but the body language):
- it seems that every time he performed his "Pyrokinesis" he tried to confince the people that he doesn't use tricks. something like that :
"hey people look at the paper I use, look at the plastic cups, they are real, nothing is faked you can even touch them and test it
fore yourselfs!"
you have to ask yourself:" would somebody who really possess those powers, try so hard to convince the spectators that he
doesn't trick them ?"
is there a reason for this ?

- his ongoing talking to the people: maybe he tries to distract them from other things, or he tries to program them into believing him,
that he really possesses those powers in order to get them into a mode were they don't think critical anymore and just believe.

- when he performs the real "convincing" presentations he is the last one that touches those objects, and he is the first one that
touches them "after" the "miracle".
.......... etc.

maybe he is using a laser ? I think there are strong lasers that produce an invisible light beam

Agreed!

I think what it comes down to is that pretty much any effect can be achieved through technology. A hidden laser or microwave beam, or a pair of microwave beams crossing at a certain point could have been used to achieve these effects.

This is not to say, however, that using the body and its energy fields, using a Kung-Fu energy technique of some kind, (or whatever), isn't entirely possible. Our bodies and energy fields and minds are just another manifestation of technology, after all. Using the materials and energies provided to us by the universe to do things.

The question is which technology is being used here? One based on the methods accepted within the sandbox of official culture, or one based on hidden sciences of body and mind, (of which all who post here have accepted to be real in some way)?

I don't know. I do know that I've seen this sort of thing up close and have had some training in the area of the 'impossible' myself. I didn't go far with it and I lost interest because I learned something important; The thing to remember is that while this kind of thing is fascinating, one must always be aware that the people who can perform these tricks are no more spiritually advanced or wise by virtue of their skills and genetic traits than anybody else. In fact, there is often a lot of ignorance and misleading ideas in such people, especially those who focus their energy on the ritual rather than in trying to plumb the mechanics of the processes they are engaged in.

In short, these kinds of people often fall prey to the danger of phenomenon chasing.

It's fun to explore the world and all its people, but we shouldn't lose sight of the important stuff.

What's the point of having X-Ray vision if one is still a marionette being pulled around by TV and highschool trauma programming?

That's my two cents, anyway.
 

walkers

A Disturbance in the Force
Hello everybody,

this is Walkers but new user and I'm not native to speak this excellent language. As I don't have any choice to post on here if I don't have time but it's worth to write something news.

Finally, I can write something... Please don't be easy to start to believe this because I don't have strong evidences like you saw this videos and it's hard to confirm this stuffs that they are real deal.

I have found few people but there are 3 types and are from my country Croatia, some are from France and Belgium that they confirmed positively this video (I meant this video is real deal)...

Croatian people gave me this knowledge and rules but they don't forbid foods such as meat and other foods but they didn't mention this mantra and doesn't requires this "spin"... They showed me their proofs but they are weak, weaker that this russian guy. It's not worth to accept their knowledge.

French people, I don't like them because they killed small animals but atleast they proved this pyrokinesis, they are powerful as well as this russian guy's master because they can do burn quite powerful. They can move things but not in the air. There is a private group which is called "The noble and arcane arts" in English language... I tried to make an application but they refused me and decided to give me this meditations for Samadhi and Vipassana and other informations... Too bad that they refused to answer on my question "what are you practicing?".

People from Beligum, they are fine and aware people. Clear and pure "real deal" that they don't like to make a difference. Of course it's boring and true but not true enough. People subconsciously knowing that the "not making a difference" is a boring life because they don't know how to control themselves, that is true enough.

They gave me this several knowledge for basic psychology and philosophy, understanding this non-concept subconscious such as they mentioned this "never make a difference" and other stuffs... There is no group that does not exists... It's an open... Not to be confused, their knowledge is not for normal people with a normal point of view... Most normal people doesn't agree this and they keep making differences... Oh wait, I forgot to mention, I didn't check their proofs because I don't expect animals to suffer.

They didn't give me any techniques for training because they said that "training" is a big word like we didn't need a big training to learn to walk when we were children, right? All I say that you need is psychology.

I finished this, so, I'd like to give you a try, so you can try this basic pyrokinesis that I got this from people (from Belgium)... Here is:

"The first phase
The first step - Feeling heat
Keeping one hand up front of you with your palms directed to the ground, try to create heat and feel it and trust me, this seems simple but it's not.
And yet its system is very simple.

Basically what you're trying to do here is building your skill of "knowing" and getting comfortable with this way of accomplishing something.

Knowing
The combination of desire, intent and being sure about the future (what is to come, to happen).
Being sure you'll feel the heat and know that once you do you WILL get fire around your hands.
This could be dangerous when you don't make sure you know you will stand the fire, obviously...

The second step - Feeling heat with both hands up front
Repeat the same method and use both hands...​


The second phase
Now you can use both hands (left, right or both) you need to know you will generate a fire"

If you don't understand this basic pyrokinesis, I cannot help because of my english. I failed and gave up on teaching people.
 

angelburst29

The Living Force
forge said:
Humming II.
Session 020731 July 31, 2002
Q: (I) Several of us have recently discussed the idea that the Zulu people are - as their name means in the Zulu language - Light Warriors. Does this idea have any foundation in fact?
A: In a sense, but not precisely in the way thought. Groups of people represent energy portals in cosmic rather than global terms. Light warriors are "connectors" on a cosmic level.
Q: (L) Connectors between what and what?
A: Transducers of energy of transition rather like capacitors!
Q: (L) What's a capacitor? (M) It's an electrical way of collecting and dumping a flowing charge; a way of accumulating charge and releasing it later in a sudden burst of energy. You can send enormously strong pulses from capacitors by putting in small amounts of energy over a long period of time. They used to be called accumulators. (J) What transition?
A: Transition of your sector of space/time.

Q: (I) So Light Warriors - are they accumulating energies and is it at a particular point that we may need help to transition that they...(S) Provide the energy necessary, is that what you mean?
A: Partly. It will depend on how much awareness you manage to generate to direct the energy.
Q: (I) Zulus, Light Warriors. Is this a genetic function?
A: More or less.
Q: (L) Well. You know they throw you something you don't expect and what do you do? You have all your little preconceived notions and you have it all figured out and you think you're going to get a little confirmation and then they toss you something that says uh-uh. (S) Well this is a whole new concept...well not really. (I) The Zulus and other Black peoples are more in tune with the Earth... And the C's say it is up to us as to how much awareness we can generate to vector this energy from the Earth... So if we don't generate this awareness they're going to transduce a different kind of energy?
A: They can be "food for the moon" or food for the soul.
Q: (I) Well, God they've been food for the Moon for a long time. (L) So has everybody else. (S) It's the same for all of us though, so is there anything special about them or different than anybody else?
A: Absolutely.
Q: (J) So their genetics...it's a function of genetics... (A) I would ask if there is any other say nation or tribe of similar make-up? (S) Yeah, maybe there's a tribe in every section of the world, or something.
A: There is a "spectrum" as Mouravieff suggests, however the Zulu compose a sort of "drone" tone.
Q: (S) So is this something they do deliberately or is it something unconscious?
A: It is a function of the 4th density energies they "represent."
Q: (A) Okay, so it is a drone tone. That is the main tone which is foundational to the harmonics. You build the music on this infrastructure, so to say. (L) There's the drone, there's the bass, there's the melody. (J) They said a spectrum as in Mouravieff, the spectrum of the genetics able to carry light or to act as a light for transition. I'm not really sure on how that...(L) I think they're talking about a soul tone. (I) Is the unique singing that the Zulus do symbolic of that drone tone?
A: Indeed, as is all of reality symbolic of things at other levels and "depths" of being. For the Zulus, the "ancestors" are also the "future selves." Those are specific terms that carry meaning unfamiliar to your cultural context.
Q: (I) Well ancestors are a big part of their culture. (S) Right, so the C's material is a...bridge between cultures I guess. (A) The issue of "agents" has been a subject of recent discussion, especially after all the odd things that occurred during our conference in the past week. What are the clues that we could look to in order to discern "agents?"
[Planchette spirals momentarily]
A: Since you asked...[group laughter] let your imagination be your guide.

Light warriors are "connectors" on a cosmic level.

I happened to come across this short video - while looking for something else. There are three short clips that show "light energy". In the first clip (dubbed #5) a blue energy is coming out of the palms of this individual. He gives the impression, he hasn't learned how to control it? In the other (#2), a bright glow is detected by security cameras, in the back of an individual who is helping someone reach a product from an upper shelf. The same woman is then tracked by another security camera, where she waves her hand in the direction of a store cart that was moving towards a little girl checking something out on a lower shelf, altering it's direction. In the last clip (#1) bright light can be detected coming from the figure hands in dark clothing and hood.

I watch the video several times and wasn't able to pick up on anything that would make me think - it was fake?

I also find it strange, that these individuals are generally described as tall and slender and wearing dark clothing with hoods?

I wonder, if these examples might be considered Light Warriors?

5 People With Superpowers Caught On Tape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn1sY8zB87E (8:50 min.)
 

Voyageur

Ambassador
Ambassador
FOTCM Member
There was a type of deja vu aspect to seeing this.

When I was a kid at a school function, this elderly man did a burning trick on me and a couple of others with our wide-eyed shock and disbelief. Near fifty years later I still have a slight scare on my hand. What the trick was involved Bichloride of Mercury mixing with a smallest amount of water (a fine film of water) and aluminum. I believe this mercury salt can react with other substance raising heat. It is dangerous.

This was my first though watching the guy, yet don't know. There are likely many chemical compounds that react with heat when mixed with another element, even delayed reactions. With the salt of mercury, it was used as a powder on a fingertip rubbed onto an aluminum foil surface and then folded, with the reaction not instantaneous yet growing in heat until unbearable.
 

Eulenspiegel

Jedi Master
This seems to have been exposed as a fraud:

Besides Hadith and Sunna, there was another hoax I had to deal with. I was hearing from my hosts about a Russian guy with paranormal powers. According to many eye-witness testimonies, he was burning holes in things with sheer mental concentration. As a rational monotheist, as a critical thinker, I did not hesitate to reject the claims to be 99.9 percent a hoax. They laughed at me. They had in the past taken extreme skeptics who did not give even a 0.1 percent chance. One of their recent guests was a philosophy professor from Moscow University, who had become a total believer in pyrokinesis. They wanted to take me to a session so that I could witness the paranormal event. I could not pass up the offer.


During the nine days in Almaty, I met three Kazaks who shared the name Serik (from Arabic Sherik, that is Partner or Friend). This Serik was educated in the United States and was a successful businessman and financial advisor. He was in his early thirties. He had two Mercedes cars, one driven by his private driver. He enjoyed trying to scare me by accelerating his new Mercedes G Wagon in Almaty's narrow streets. The Russian guy lived on the fifth floor of a dilapidated apartment building. The door had multiple locks on it. Upon our entry, he gave an envelope to the Russian who called himself Alexander. Later, I learned that he had popped-up 2,000 dollars for the half-an-hour session. Alexander was a skinny man in his forties. He had a very serious demeanor and all-business attitude. I noticed that before leading me to a chair across from him, he rushed to sit at a chair in front of a little desk with a circular top. He started talking in Russian about his talents of collecting energy from nature and focusing on things he wanted to burn. Serik was a fluent translator and experienced disciple. Alexander was claiming connections with Russian military.


Alexander then produced an inflated little balloon and put it between my right hand and his left hand. I was expecting some kind of laser hidden somewhere, but nothing appeared suspicious; he wore a simple shirt with short sleeves. He was talking about the special energy he had that would not pop the balloon. The balloon stayed suspended between his palm and my palm for about thirty seconds. He was making low humming noises. I started feeling warmth in the middle of my palm. Then the heat increased and I felt as if there was a ball of fire in my palm. I had to let the balloon fall. It was a very unusual experience. I had in the past studied hypnosis and participated in hypnotic sessions, but this had nothing to do with it. I was not even informed beforehand that I would feel heat inside my palm. But, I was open to every scientific and "normal" explanation before believing that all my lost socks were indeed stolen by Martian visitors. Unfortunately, I knew that for many people Martian thieves were the first explanation for the disappearing socks phenomenon!


I was not paying much attention to what was he telling me through Serik. I was carefully watching like James Randi who had exposed Uri Geller, the notorious Israeli fraudster. Alexander moved to his second show. He opened his hand and let me feel it. It was colder than usual. He then pressed against my right hand palm and started doing the same thing: concentrating and humming. I heard a puff sound and felt a burning pain in the back of my hand between my thumb and index finger. I tried not to overreact. I wanted to take the picture of him, but I respected his wish not to be photographed.


Then, Alexander showed me several plastic cups and placed them on the floor next to my feet. He went all the way into another room which was connected to his office. He sat on a chair about 20 feet away. He started humming and I noticed the plastic cup starting to melt from the side facing him. Within a few seconds he carved a hole in the plastic cup. He did a few similar burnings and poking holes in plastic. Noticing that he was burning and poking holes on the same straight line, I grabbed a cup and put it on the floor at another location and asked him to burn it there. He grabbed it and located it somewhere else in an animated fashion and rapid talking. He made me sit on another chair and from behind started concentrating on the cup. He excitedly claimed that he burned it by sending his energy through my eyeglasses or eyes. I then took a dollar bill from my wallet and put it on his desk and asked him to burn a hole in it. He put it inside his palm and pointed his right hand's index finger accompanied with exaggerated concentration and bragging words about his powers. He did poke a little whole in the American dollar that had already been turned to doughnut by the "robber banks", Wall Street and corporate thieves who stole billions of taxpayers dollars during their recent heist in American history.


I asked Alexander a few questions about the source of his powers. He talked about his veins, about a special diet of 400 gram of vegetables and 40 gram of nuts, about earth, water, fire, air and ether. Long live Empedocles! I had already witnessed so many red flags that when he started to diagnose my potential health problems and missing the ones I already had, I tried my best to endure his insults to my intelligence. I also wondered about his knowledge about the Randy Foundation, which has been offering 1 million dollars for anyone that could prove paranormal powers. I asked him to go there and claim the money. He made up an excuse: he had a contract with the military for four more months and he would not be able to go out during this period. When I left his office, I was impressed by his talents and showmanship, yet I was sure that he was using some devices to create the burning effect. I suspected two things: laser engravers and chemicals that could have delayed the burning effect.


The following day I asked Serik to take me there so that I expose the hoax. I recorded my encounter with the fraudster. To make my job easy, Serik arranged this session with Alexander for Aidar, the journalist. At the door, I entered his office with a camcorder. I demanded him to apologize for three things: for insulting my intelligence, for burning my hand and for defrauding thousands of dollars from my friends. I added that he had to give back all the money he received from them. He appeared to be composed and cool. Serik was doing very well in translating our conversation. At a point, I grabbed a plastic cup and put it by the entrance door and challenged him to perform his powers there. He accepted with a condition: he would do it only with the presence of Aidar, the new "recruit." I had no choice but to accept since I had no clear idea what his trick was about and the two of my friends were not sure about my allegations. Serik and I got out and he locked the door behind us. Taking advantage of this period, I decided to climb to the attic from the opening. I climbed the metal stairs on the wall and pushed the square door all the way pulling myself to the attic. It was dark and dirty. I looked for wires and vertically installed laser engravers in the ceiling of his office room. I was disappointed, nothing was there. I came down and asked Serik to call Aidar and learn what was going on. We had to wait a few more minutes. When the door opened I entered, Aidar put his arms on my shoulder with his head down, "Let's get out of here; he is real. I am hundred percent sure, he is genuine." I could not believe my eyes and ears. Aidar appeared pale and shaken. He was very scared. There was big hole on his nylon windbreaker on the right side of his chest. He had not responded to my challenge by poking hole in the cup by the door. Instead, he had chosen to have a new recruit. He had chosen offence. I asked him whether he was injected with some kind of medication. I could not explain his betrayal of me through normal circumstances.


Alexander was now working on Serik, perhaps his best disciple. I had to interrupt. I searched under the desk. I saw sticky stuff under it. I thought they were the secret chemicals he was using; but they were most likely gum pieces as he claimed. Then, I opened the little door under the desk. There I noticed a pedal, exactly as a I had predicted. When Serik and Aidar saw it, they were shocked. But, this would not last long. Alexander pointed at a little camera on the corner of the wall and claimed that the pedal is for the camera; he was recording the sessions secretly. I did not buy his explanation. I immediately jumped over the seat by the wall and pulled off the device that looked like a small camera. I suspected it to be a laser, disguised inside a camera cover. But, after a brief inspection I was disappointed in myself. I was wrong in my accusation; indeed it was a camera. But, I was still not convinced that the pedal was for the camera. I suspected a clever cover up. If someone discovered the pedal, then Alexander has a convincing explanation for it. I felt the urge to discover the devises he was using. I had promised Aslbek and others that I would surely expose the hoax and now I was nowhere near close to it. The attic had not produced any clue, nor the pedal hidden under his desk.


I sat down on the chair and held the balloon in my hand and challenged him to do his trick there. He appeared to accept my challenge. But after a brief moment of concentration, he started telling Serik that he had accumulated too much energy and could blow my hand off. I did not swallow his bluff. I challenged him to blow my hand off and while at it he should also blow my head off. I started timing him, using my watch. I told him that he had only five minutes to unveil his tricks and apologize for his three crimes; otherwise I would call the American embassy and ask them to send police here to ransack his office. He was not giving up. He was trying to influence Serik to ask me to give up. I would not. I informed him about the few minutes left for him to avoid the police.


When the five minutes finished I asked Serik to call the US embassy. I was going to tell them that a Russian crook had defrauded me, an American citizen, and I needed police to come to the address. Serik did not respond to me. Losing my patience, I decided to use some force. I charged the desk which was attached to the floor, and kicked it hard, breaking the jar and spreading some knickknacks to the floor. From the bottom of the table, a bundle of white cables were exposed. They were curving back to the room in the back. Following the lead of the wires, I went to the other room where he had his bed. At that point I heard Serik telling me that he confessed his trick. He was using chemicals. I knew that he was still trying to hide his real trick. So, I continued my search. Behind the bed there was a section covered with blankets. When I removed the blankets an electronic devise comprising of two big boxes was exposed. My friends were in shock. They never expected such a professional set up. The devices, according to Alexander, were generating microwaves. He also mentioned using chemicals in combination. I did not pay much attention to his explanations, since I never trusted him. I am not yet sure exactly how it worked, but either he was filling the room with microwaves which would activate the chemical that he would secretly attach to things. Most likely, he was sticking the chemical to the back of our hands with his thump when he was shaking our hands. In fact, the location where he burned our hands was exactly corresponding to where the tip of his thump would land. It would be difficult to explain why he was not able to produce the same effect when I challenged him in different locations. Perhaps, he would not have chance to obtain extra chemicals and attach it under scrutiny. I am not sure. Considering all the locations that he performed his tricks, they were on a straight line across his bed room. Regardless of the details, it was now clear that he was using a high tech device to create the burning effect on his subjects.


I recorded his apology. He apologized for insulting the intelligence of a philosopher, for burning my hand and for defrauding my friends. Later I felt compassion for him and gave him a heart-to-heart advice. I kept my word and did not call police on him. Serik took the envelope containing several thousand dollars. Then, he asked for all the money previously given to him by him and his friends. He told him that he was stashing his money somewhere else. Serik's chauffeur took them; he retrieved about ten thousands dollars.


Two days later, Aslbek wanted Abu Eesa to experience the same show. He was curious about his reaction. I went with Abu Eesa pretending being there for the first time. We recorded his experience and reaction. He was acting like a scientist, but a very gullible one. He appeared to be trusting every word of explanation given by Alexander. Alexander was using natural terminology to explain his powers, but he was also mixing the word spirit with them. Abu Eesa was eager to explain his powers with Jinnies or ghosts. So, he was trying to hear more about the spirit part. I asked Abu Eesa a few short questions so that he could elaborate on his jinnies theories. I reminded him about the paintings containing Christian figures and symbols. He was convinced that it was jinny power. Before leaving Abu Eesa invited Alexander to read the Quran. It was refreshing to hear Abu Eesa promoting the Quran. I could not stop myself interjecting: "Brother Abu Eesa, you are peddling Bukhari to us, but I see that you are advising the Quran to outsiders. Why don't you ask him to read Bukhari?" I am sure; Abu Eesa knew that no sound person would accept Islam by starting from Bukhari. None would have any respect or sympathy for the fictional Muhammad depicted by Bukhari. For converts, Bukhari would be inserted into the scene afterwards to distort the message of the Quran!



The trick is uncovered in part 4. Seems like a combination of microwaves and chemicals.

So pyrokinesis might exist, but this guy is a fraud. In any case, the big red flag was that he was earning a lot of money for "training courses" and demonstrations. It seems likely to me that any person who is striving for self-realization and stumbles upon such "powers" on the way would likely not turn it into a business as he did. When someone shows off, seeks attention/fame and asks for a lot of money, you can be sure that something is fishy, and I am glad that this philosopher took the pains of uncovering this scam.
 
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