Was Julius Caesar the real Jesus Christ?

[Breo]

@AzarHyun, thank you very much for sharing!

 

[palestine]

Francesco Carotta - The Gospels as diegetic Transposition: A possible Solution to the Aporia “Did Jesus exist?”

Until little more than two centuries ago nobody questioned the histori-
cal existence of Jesus.

This was put in doubt by the Enlightenment.

The reason given is that Jesus only appears in the Gospel and that there are
no certain references in the historiography of the time. On the other
hand, the appearance itself of Christianity demands the historical exist-
ence of its author. These two arguments neutralize each other recipro-
cally and,

from the French Revolution to today, we attend a trench war-
fare

between the defenders and detractors of the historical existence of
Jesus. Between those who consider the Gospel to be true history and
those who think that it is mere diegesis: the latter exposing the incon-
gruences of the Gospel, and the former replying that if it had been in-
vented it would have been done with less incongruences.

Pretty interesting to me than to spectate a precise point featuring what appears to be a loss of objectivity.

Pretty bugging as well than to figure out that "Christ" decreases in favour of "Enlightenment".

 

[lilies]

Francesco Carotta - The Gospels as diegetic Transposition: A possible Solution to the Aporia “Did Jesus exist?”





Pretty interesting to me than to spectate a precise point featuring what appears to be a loss of objectivity.

Pretty bugging as well than to figure out that "Christ" decreases in favour of "Enlightenment".

Laura discusses this extensively in her book From Paul to Mark. I think the doctrine of Original Sin was a similar insert of special importance. I particularly was bothered by it. Because criminals are usually bothered by the Truth, so my rejection of it was strong. See below rant.

I believe that per crimes of my original tribe that I'm an original sinner. Genetic imprint of this original cosmic crime (see explanation below) and thus mental rejection of it, is so deep, that it had to be explained to me by Laura what was really meant of this in The Bible. Why was this insert necessary. St. Augustine primarily associates the introduction of sin in the human family with sexual acts. Maybe he intended this focus in his teachings as a tool, so the simple flock understands. Similarly, I think, how Gurdjieff used The Moving Center as a meme - working tool and primary example in his teachings to help people understand, what he meant in a much greater context. Both are good as simple tools, I think. But of course probably both teachers understood that The Moving Center and sexual acts are merely a side component / issue in a much larger system of Can of Worms-Class problems:

Pelagius therefore, I think, was a hopeless fool with his FUBAR-ed polemic:

that all of Adam’s offspring did not suffer any repercussions from the event, and all of Adam’s offspring were actually born inherently good.

and rightfully deserved excommunication.

I rather think that the Original Sin is an intentionally encoded Cosmic genetic profile*:
and here I fully agree with Justin Martyr - see From Paul to Mark and there Laura's emphasis in context [!]--search there for the phrase "unknowing Christians",

What I mean is *similar to how people [in a life-and-death situation] write supremely important knowledge onto their skin, so they don't forget. In Hollywood movies people write it with blood onto the asphalt or on walls, so the police knows or their combatant family gets the message.

Except this was done - I think - by Team Intelligent Creation of 6th and 7th Densities, so the true Original Sinners never forget what they did!:

1. C's emphasized multiple times that there must be balance in everything. I think it is especially important in this Universe. Is probably the belief-notion of not only some Quorum members, but probably most objective reality observers in the cosmos share similar beliefs about the importance of the preservation of balance.

2. I state as per my possibly "regained tribal memory" thanks to the effects of Laura's Romance Book Project - that my tribe originally came from an Exo-Universe. Similar to how the Kantekkian sinners came from Kantek. Where, in that other Universe, we failed to respect and observe The Cosmic Importance of Balance and went the Kantekkian way and destroyed balance in that other Universe so it became an unlivable utter Chaos. ..so this bunch of criminals, my cutthroat cosmic hacker tribe, saw that Cosmic Balance was utterly destroyed in that other Universe, my tribe's Original Home, we came here as refugees. By the Clemency of Souls here we were allowed - into this Universe.

But we were completely unwanted here and therefore watched. Understandably. I believe this unwanted tribe of Exo-Universe thiefs and hackers and Violators of Gravity of mine were: Ra, Seth, and their followers-in-crime like me. Just like a bunch of crazy Kantekkians. But the Kantekkians only wanted power. The problem with us was that we: Thug Ra, Idiot Seth, and similar others like me, we directly violated Gravity! Gravity - all consciousness - is the underlying fabric of this Universe from which all Fundamental Order and Creation is woven. And in our original universe these laws we violated with reckless abandon via our activities of Hacking of Gravity on the fundamental level of Creation = a direct manipulation of the underlying fabric of this universe.

Therefore I believe when we arrived into this Universe as refugees - we were scolded by Team God of 6th and 7th Densities. We were especially warned that if we dare to pull a similar number, a direct offense - Violation of Gravity - a true Original Sin here in this Universe and go against The Balance Laws that preserve all life in this Universe, then we will no longer welcome here! We will be no longer tolerated as refugees and will be expelled from this Universe.

Ra mentions these hackers, in his communications (rather what is truly is) The Confessions of Thug Ra [sic]. That's why, I think, idiot Seth desperately tried to mend his criminal ways with his teachings - as if he was sentenced to do - a Community Service.

Gurdjieff called this activity Worse Than Black Magic = a direct violation of Gravity - of All Consciousness - and therefore a direct violation of The Holy Awareness in All Creation! All true Original Sinners in this context become aware of this, I think, of their past crimes, as the time of density change approaches.

 

[palestine]

Hello lilies!

Thank you for your message!

I have been reading it with the utmost attention. There is something that I felt I wanted to tell you, immediately after several lines Almost compelled! But since it is a thread about Paul, I am not sure if I should expand on it because it would be a digression from the thread. I believe that it could be good in a separate thread?

I wish to tell you how I have the strong feeling that you are taking much on your shoulders, and it makes me ... uncomfortable in the sense that I would find it too unfair. Wouldn't... the Universe be proud, of you, if you were to walk a full STO path?
Wouldn't he, in this case, look at ONE seer, one "you", and really really making a difference with all those lazy other tribe members? This would ... count I believe. You are entitled to STO. Why would it stop?

Wouldn't... the Universe actually endorse such a will, if you had it? Do you have room for this in mind? I don't think that God cursed you and your tribe to the extent that nothing is actually possible. This ... souds fallacious. God and the Universe generically work the other way. In the case of a curse there would be "small paragraphs" down the page... I believe it would be more accurate, in the case of "a curse", to remember the STO path / the C way: severe teacher stuff "in order to get out of this, you need to ... and ...". There is never "there is no getting out of this". At least it cannot be "absent", so if you don't see it, I believe there still is.

I believe that per crimes of my original tribe that I'm an original sinner.

I have some teachings, from the C's - the sessions about the human race. They portray the sin in a different fashion. I still understand your sin is around "we broke laws of gravity". I have been noticing that one a few years ago, on a personal level. Is the fabric you guys broke repaired? In the sense that the breach has been fixed?

I rather think that the Original Sin is an intentionally encoded Cosmic genetic profile

If so, could be that God wanted it to happen that way (you guys breaking the gravity fabric).

search there for the phrase "unknowing Christians

I will. I have the book in English. I will have a look, thank you.

hackers and Violators of Gravity of mine were: Ra, Seth,

Is it the same Ra as in the Law of one? Isn't Ra supposed to be 6th STO?

Lilies, I wish to tell you how sorry I am to hear about your personal concerns that you have been expressing me, in regard of your tribe's burden. Those things happen, and I am the first sorry about that. I have been through similar events, and I am very sensitive to the concepts of common responsibility. I wish to find precise answers in regard of models allowing individuals to bypass such "global burdens". Everything exists - or at least much, and this idea shouldn't be outside of the range of "the possible".

Let me know more but if we don't want to get kicked out of the thread, could be, best talk in a separate thread!