Was Julius Caesar the real Jesus Christ?

[Breo]

@AzarHyun, thank you very much for sharing!

 

[palestine]

Francesco Carotta - The Gospels as diegetic Transposition: A possible Solution to the Aporia “Did Jesus exist?”

Until little more than two centuries ago nobody questioned the histori-
cal existence of Jesus.

This was put in doubt by the Enlightenment.

The reason given is that Jesus only appears in the Gospel and that there are
no certain references in the historiography of the time. On the other
hand, the appearance itself of Christianity demands the historical exist-
ence of its author. These two arguments neutralize each other recipro-
cally and,

from the French Revolution to today, we attend a trench war-
fare

between the defenders and detractors of the historical existence of
Jesus. Between those who consider the Gospel to be true history and
those who think that it is mere diegesis: the latter exposing the incon-
gruences of the Gospel, and the former replying that if it had been in-
vented it would have been done with less incongruences.

Pretty interesting to me than to spectate a precise point featuring what appears to be a loss of objectivity.

Pretty bugging as well than to figure out that "Christ" decreases in favour of "Enlightenment".

 

[lilies]

Francesco Carotta - The Gospels as diegetic Transposition: A possible Solution to the Aporia “Did Jesus exist?”





Pretty interesting to me than to spectate a precise point featuring what appears to be a loss of objectivity.

Pretty bugging as well than to figure out that "Christ" decreases in favour of "Enlightenment".

Laura discusses this extensively in her book From Paul to Mark. I think the doctrine of Original Sin was a similar insert of special importance. I particularly was bothered by it. Because criminals are usually bothered by the Truth, so my rejection of it was strong. See below rant.

I believe that per crimes of my original tribe that I'm an original sinner. Genetic imprint of this original cosmic crime (see explanation below) and thus mental rejection of it, is so deep, that it had to be explained to me by Laura what was really meant of this in The Bible. Why was this insert necessary. St. Augustine primarily associates the introduction of sin in the human family with sexual acts. Maybe he intended this focus in his teachings as a tool, so the simple flock understands. Similarly, I think, how Gurdjieff used The Moving Center as a meme - working tool and primary example in his teachings to help people understand, what he meant in a much greater context. Both are good as simple tools, I think. But of course probably both teachers understood that The Moving Center and sexual acts are merely a side component / issue in a much larger system of Can of Worms-Class problems:

Pelagius therefore, I think, was a hopeless fool with his FUBAR-ed polemic:

that all of Adam’s offspring did not suffer any repercussions from the event, and all of Adam’s offspring were actually born inherently good.

and rightfully deserved excommunication.

I rather think that the Original Sin is an intentionally encoded Cosmic genetic profile*:
and here I fully agree with Justin Martyr - see From Paul to Mark and there Laura's emphasis in context [!]--search there for the phrase "unknowing Christians",

What I mean is *similar to how people [in a life-and-death situation] write supremely important knowledge onto their skin, so they don't forget. In Hollywood movies people write it with blood onto the asphalt or on walls, so the police knows or their combatant family gets the message.

Except this was done - I think - by Team Intelligent Creation of 6th and 7th Densities, so the true Original Sinners never forget what they did!:

1. C's emphasized multiple times that there must be balance in everything. I think it is especially important in this Universe. Is probably the belief-notion of not only some Quorum members, but probably most objective reality observers in the cosmos share similar beliefs about the importance of the preservation of balance.

2. I state as per my possibly "regained tribal memory" thanks to the effects of Laura's Romance Book Project - that my tribe originally came from an Exo-Universe. Similar to how the Kantekkian sinners came from Kantek. Where, in that other Universe, we failed to respect and observe The Cosmic Importance of Balance and went the Kantekkian way and destroyed balance in that other Universe so it became an unlivable utter Chaos. ..so this bunch of criminals, my cutthroat cosmic hacker tribe, saw that Cosmic Balance was utterly destroyed in that other Universe, my tribe's Original Home, we came here as refugees. By the Clemency of Souls here we were allowed - into this Universe.

But we were completely unwanted here and therefore watched. Understandably. I believe this unwanted tribe of Exo-Universe thiefs and hackers and Violators of Gravity of mine were: Ra, Seth, and their followers-in-crime like me. Just like a bunch of crazy Kantekkians. But the Kantekkians only wanted power. The problem with us was that we: Thug Ra, Idiot Seth, and similar others like me, we directly violated Gravity! Gravity - all consciousness - is the underlying fabric of this Universe from which all Fundamental Order and Creation is woven. And in our original universe these laws we violated with reckless abandon via our activities of Hacking of Gravity on the fundamental level of Creation = a direct manipulation of the underlying fabric of this universe.

Therefore I believe when we arrived into this Universe as refugees - we were scolded by Team God of 6th and 7th Densities. We were especially warned that if we dare to pull a similar number, a direct offense - Violation of Gravity - a true Original Sin here in this Universe and go against The Balance Laws that preserve all life in this Universe, then we will no longer welcome here! We will be no longer tolerated as refugees and will be expelled from this Universe.

Ra mentions these hackers, in his communications (rather what is truly is) The Confessions of Thug Ra [sic]. That's why, I think, idiot Seth desperately tried to mend his criminal ways with his teachings - as if he was sentenced to do - a Community Service.

Gurdjieff called this activity Worse Than Black Magic = a direct violation of Gravity - of All Consciousness - and therefore a direct violation of The Holy Awareness in All Creation! All true Original Sinners in this context become aware of this, I think, of their past crimes, as the time of density change approaches.

 

[palestine]

Hello lilies!

Thank you for your message!

I have been reading it with the utmost attention. There is something that I felt I wanted to tell you, immediately after several lines Almost compelled! But since it is a thread about Paul, I am not sure if I should expand on it because it would be a digression from the thread. I believe that it could be good in a separate thread?

I wish to tell you how I have the strong feeling that you are taking much on your shoulders, and it makes me ... uncomfortable in the sense that I would find it too unfair. Wouldn't... the Universe be proud, of you, if you were to walk a full STO path?
Wouldn't he, in this case, look at ONE seer, one "you", and really really making a difference with all those lazy other tribe members? This would ... count I believe. You are entitled to STO. Why would it stop?

Wouldn't... the Universe actually endorse such a will, if you had it? Do you have room for this in mind? I don't think that God cursed you and your tribe to the extent that nothing is actually possible. This ... souds fallacious. God and the Universe generically work the other way. In the case of a curse there would be "small paragraphs" down the page... I believe it would be more accurate, in the case of "a curse", to remember the STO path / the C way: severe teacher stuff "in order to get out of this, you need to ... and ...". There is never "there is no getting out of this". At least it cannot be "absent", so if you don't see it, I believe there still is.

I believe that per crimes of my original tribe that I'm an original sinner.

I have some teachings, from the C's - the sessions about the human race. They portray the sin in a different fashion. I still understand your sin is around "we broke laws of gravity". I have been noticing that one a few years ago, on a personal level. Is the fabric you guys broke repaired? In the sense that the breach has been fixed?

I rather think that the Original Sin is an intentionally encoded Cosmic genetic profile

If so, could be that God wanted it to happen that way (you guys breaking the gravity fabric).

search there for the phrase "unknowing Christians

I will. I have the book in English. I will have a look, thank you.

hackers and Violators of Gravity of mine were: Ra, Seth,

Is it the same Ra as in the Law of one? Isn't Ra supposed to be 6th STO?

Lilies, I wish to tell you how sorry I am to hear about your personal concerns that you have been expressing me, in regard of your tribe's burden. Those things happen, and I am the first sorry about that. I have been through similar events, and I am very sensitive to the concepts of common responsibility. I wish to find precise answers in regard of models allowing individuals to bypass such "global burdens". Everything exists - or at least much, and this idea shouldn't be outside of the range of "the possible".

Let me know more but if we don't want to get kicked out of the thread, could be, best talk in a separate thread!

 

[JGeropoulas]

Several times, I've come across this diagram attempting to map out the web of deceit on this planet. But today was the first time I noticed a curious detail (I've circled in red). It seems to link Jesus Christ ("JC") with Julius Caesar (in a Christmas tree formation, crowned with a cross) confirming that modern-day Christianity is one of the strands in the grand web of deceit. I'm not sure why "Library of Alexandria, 48 BC" is included as the bottom of it all. What do you think?

 

[Moine]

What do you think?

I've got something from The Celestial Code of Scripture: The Astral Cupher Underlying the Miracle Stories of the Bible and Qur'an, by John McHugh. I'll portray the entirety of Chapter 5, for educational purposes. I was wanting to save it for an eventual post on The Odyssey thread, but I guess I'll just refer to this post later on.

Greek Magi Learn to Read the Heavenly Writing

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How did ancient Greek scholars come to recognize punning in the cuneiform constellation titles as the basis for the astronomical and mythical origins of Aries as the golden-fleeced Ram, Pegasus’ birth near the springs of Ocean, Perseus as the embodiment of the Bull-slayer constellation, who was also “ruler of the universe,” and Argo as the bow-less Ship that plied the celestial sea backwards past the Clashing-Rocks?

Over the past six decades scholars have shown that monumental Mesopotamian literary works such as The Epic of Gilgamesh and Enuma Elish strongly influenced the leitmotifs of the earliest Greek poets. Bona fide clues can be found in the writings of Homer’s younger contemporary, Hesiod, who wrote Theogony (“Genealogy of the Gods”) at the end of the eighth century BC. The Oxford Classical Dictionary states that Theogony “has striking parallels in Akkadian and Hittite texts, and seems originally to have come from the Near East.” In his analysis of Near Eastern influences on Hesiod’s Theogony, Peter Walcot comments:

Its closest companions in Greek literature are the Homeric Hymns, but even closer is the picture of Zeus in the Theogony and that of Marduk in Enuma Elish, and it is to Babylonian tradition and the eighth century BC that we should resort if we wish to assess Hesiod’s debt to the Near East. (1966, 129)


The archaeological record supports the possibility for such intellectual contact and indicates that by the second half of the eighth century BC—contemporaneous with Homer and Hesiod—Greeks had established amicable trading communities on the coastal Syrian sites of Al-Mina, Al-Basit, and Tell Sukas. Of particular interest is Al-Mina, where Greeks from the Aegean isle of Euboea had established a thriving two-way trade. Mercantile exchange between Al-Mina and Euboea is intriguing because it indicates friendly relations between coastal Syria, a territory under the political control of Assyria and a place that afforded Hesiod one of the most memorable experiences of his life. It was in Euboea that Hesiod won a handled tripod as a prize for a song he performed at the “games of wise [king] Amphidamas.” Walcot notes that Euboean Greeks “seem to have been extremely active here [at Al-Mina] during the eighth century [BC], for part of which time the Assyrians were in control of the region. Al-Mina is an obvious place for the Greeks to have acquired a knowledge of Enuma Elish or any other work of Babylonian literature.”


The influence of The Epic of Gilgamesh and Enuma Elish on Homer and Hesiod was pertinent to my research because both of these Mesopotamian texts provide numerous instances in which wisdom was conveyed through wordplay and both are standard reference manuals for the elite magi (ummânu) of the Mesopotamian world.


Greek alphabetic writing first appeared in the early eighth century BC, when it was adopted from the seafaring Phoenicians who inhabited the Syrian coast. The Phoenicians had had extensive, intimate contacts with the Greeks since the second millennium BC, with the Old Testament referring to Phoenicia as a “son” of Greece (Genesis 10:4; 1 Chronicles 1:7), which may explain why the Greeks came to adopt the Phoenician alphabet. Proof of the Greeks’ keen awareness of Semitic vocabularies is evident in a mere glance at the first two letters of the Greek alphabet, A (Alpha) and B (Beta). Walter Burkert points out that both letters (and the twenty-two subsequent ones) have no meaning in Greek and are instead based on the Phoenician letter A, called ’Aleph, which means “Bull,” and the Phoenician letter B, named Bet, which means “House.” Burkert stresses that, “These are Semitic words—bull, house, and so on—which have no sense at all in Greek. They were preserved for one particular reason: All teaching of reading and writing began with learning this sequence by heart.… Thus, it is clear that the adoption of the Phoenician script by the Greeks was more than the copying of letter forms; it included the transmission of the technique of teaching and learning how to read and write. This presupposes a certain intimacy of contacts.”

Burkert adds:

Akkadian cuneiform side by side with Aramaic, Phoenician, and Greek alphabetic script produces a continuum of written culture in the eighth century BC which stretches from the Euphrates to Italy. Cuneiform tablets are found not only as far as Syria but also on Cyprus and Tarsos, where the Greeks were definitely present…, which proves that Greek literary practice is ultimately dependent upon Mesopotamia. It is necessary to postulate that Aramaic leather scrolls [which have since rotted from the archaeological record] formed the connecting link. (1992, 29–32)


In other words, ancient Greek poets studied and understood cuneiform and the literary tradition in which it was embedded. If accurate, then it implies that the earliest Greek authors were also privy to the Mesopotamian precepts that accepted the starry sky as a hallowed script that imparted epiphanies via wordplay.

The renowned classical scholar M. L. West is more direct in defining how Mesopotamian literary practices came to appear in the Hellenic world:

But how was this influence transmitted from one poetic tradition to another across the language barrier? … I see no alternative to the assumption of a certain number of bilingual poets, probably easterners who had settled in Greece and learned to compose epics in the Greek manner.

In other instances we seem to detect close relationships between Homeric or Hesiodic passages and other “classic” Babylonian texts such as Atraḫasis [i.e., the oldest Flood story] and Enuma Elish. To account for them we must surely postulate poets educated in the Levant who subsequently became Hellenized and practiced in Greece. (2011, 1, 71)


This comment left me astonished. Here was one of the most respected classical scholars of our day saying that Babylonian or Assyrian magi must have had direct contact with their Greek counterparts, learned their language, and disclosed their literary traditions to them.

I mentally sifted through the remarkable implications. If Homer and Hesiod were recycling themes from Enuma Elish into Greek epic poetry, then they were likely to be familiar with the Babylonian-Assyrian conception of the starry sky as Heavenly-Text that revealed their stories through constellation-writing wordplay. Bilingual Hellenic scholars familiar with the style of punning found in Enuma Elish tablet VII and other works of literature could begin to make their own discoveries about numinous incidents that had once taken place on earth. A Hellenic interpretation of this celestial code could have produced accounts of a flying, golden-fleeced Ram; a Flying-Horse constellation named Pegasus that simultaneously sprang forth from Medusa’s severed head near the streams of the god Ocean; and a Ship constellation that sailed through the sky backwards, had its bow cut off, and passed through the terrifying Clashing-Rocks on its journey through the celestial Sea.

But just how did Mesopotamian scholars come into intimate contact with their counterparts from Greece? Amazingly, that answer can be found enciphered in the name of the father of Greek epic poetry himself: Homer.

* * *

Soon after grad school I had become fascinated by a phenomenon practiced throughout the ancient world, one that would have led to extended contact between Greek and Mesopotamian scholars. Highly literate Mesopotamian magi (ummânus) were often sent as ambassadors to political allies; and such magi were also conscripted into the service of foreign monarchies that had seized political control of their nation—where they served as hostaged magi.

Some of the best examples of this custom are found in the Bible. One scholar with astrological skills who went willingly to serve a foreign ally is seen in the Book of Numbers, Chapters 22–24. In that passage the Babylonian diviner Balaam heeds the call of the king of Moab. We can assume that at least one of Balaam’s skillsets was astrology, as he reports of a portentous star in verse 24:17: “a star will come out of Jacob” to crush the enemies encountered by the Israelites.

The Old Testament’s Book of Daniel (1:1–6) tells how this young Jewish prophet and three of his countrymen were forced to serve the conquering Chaldean king, Nebuchadnezzar II (604–562 BC). The passage reports that Nebuchadnezzar ordered his chief court official to

bring in some of the Israelites from the royal family and the nobility—young men … showing aptitude for every kind of learning, well informed, quick to understand, and qualified to serve in the king’s palace. He was to teach them the language and literature of the Chaldeans [i.e., Babylonians]. … They were to be trained for three years, and after that they were to enter the king’s service.


Here we have four Jewish neophytes being conscripted into the services of the Babylonian king. The language they were to learn was Akkadian (i.e., Babylonian and Assyrian) cuneiform, and surely consisted of the lexical commentaries that listed equivalences between Sumerian words, their logograms, and their Akkadian meaning, as well as the “literature” (sēper) that included works such as The Epic of Gilgamesh and Enuma Elish. In verse 5:11 the Babylonian queen confirms that Daniel had become an expert in the Babylonian magical arts: “King Nebuchadnezzar your father—your father the king, I say—appointed him [Daniel] chief of the magicians, enchanters, astrologers, and diviners.”

* * *

It’s clear there were abundant instances of direct amicable contact between Assyrians and Greeks—especially at the Syrian site of Al-Mina, which was under Assyrian control during the advent of Greek writing. Yet adversarial encounters between them are also recorded. The historic record indicates that around 743 BC Assyrian king Tiglath-pileser III forcibly gained control of Syria and Cyprus. Shortly thereafter, an Assyrian officer reports a maritime raid by Ionians (Greeks) off the Phoenician coast. Bradley Parker writes:

The text does not actually tell us very much about the Ionians themselves except that they were evidently a small band of pirates who conducted raids, not with the explicit intention of annexing any part of the Phoenician coast, but rather for plunder. They had conducted a series of raids on the coast of what is today Lebanon, and seem to have had a substantial enough force to successfully attack and loot coastal towns. But they had neither the political will nor the military force to take on the Assyrian army when it arrived. The knowledge of exactly who these raiders were, and the fact that this relatively minor incident was being reported directly to the king, implies that this was not the first time [the Assyrian governing official] Qurdi-Aššur-lamur had had trouble with Ionian pirates.


One valuable form of plunder was the taking of slaves as booty, a common practice in ancient Greece, and one attested in the writings of Homer and Hesiod in the noun dmōs (“slave taken in war”). The Jewish prophet Ezekiel 27:13 bemoans the slave-trade between Greece and Phoenicia, and Joel 4:4–8 recounts how Phoenicians had taken Jewish slaves and sold them to Greeks. Homer twice describes sea-going Phoenician slave traders interacting with Greeks in his Odyssey. Moreover, the Homeric Hymns recount how the god Dionysus, while walking the beach in human form, was taken by pirates as booty to be sold for a handsome ransom.

While reflecting on Parker’s description of Greek pirates seeking booty in Assyrian-ruled territory alongside the lucrative Phoenician-Greek slave trade reported in the Bible, the pieces of this riddle suddenly seemed to fit together.

“Homer,” I whispered to myself.

It is not known if there was a single epic poet named Homer. West summarizes one viewpoint held by a consensus of Classical scholars: “There was no original Homer, the Homeridai were not named after a person, but not knowing any better, they invented a Homer as their ancestor or founder.”

In the second century BC, Zenodotus of Mallos contended that Homer was a Chaldean (i.e., Babylonian). Three-hundred years later, in A True Story, the second-century Syrian satirist Lucian (circa AD 125–180) holds a mock interview with Homer, asking the father of Greek poetry where he came from. Homer’s jaw-dropping retort follows:

As a matter of fact, I am a Babylonian, and among my fellow-countrymen my name was not Homēr but Tigranes. Later on, when I was a hostage (homēr) among the Greeks, I changed my name.


Whether Homer was an actual person or not, here Lucian revealed his awareness that the name Homēr is the Greek word, hostage, and that the legendary poet acquired that name because he had been a Babylonian magos that was taken as a hostage by the Greeks.

If “Homer” referred to a Babylonian astrologer-magician, then he would have known that the starry sky depicted Heavenly Writing of the astral gods and that puns encrypted in the hallowed text were a source of revelation. Moreover, if his experiences resembled those of Daniel, then the first thing a Babylonian hostage would have had to learn was the Greek language and script. Once fluent in Greek, Homēr (Hostage) would then be able to transcribe cuneiform constellation-writing puns into stories that we today know as Greek mythology.

The comments of classical scholar George Dimock suggest this was so:

The sixth-century [BC] Homeric Hymn to Delian Apollo and the scholiast on Pindar Nemeans 2.1 on the Homeridae provide attractive evidence that Homer founded a clan or guild on the island of Chios which possessed written texts and continued to foster their honored ancestor’s reputation after his death.


This explained how and why Greek scholars transfigured the Mesopotamian Hired-Worker into the Greek flying, golden-fleeced Ram; how the Mesopotamian Field morphed into a Flying-Horse named Pegasus, born near the streams of the god Ocean; how Ocean came to be conceptualized as a River that circled the earth; and how the truncated Argo came to simultaneously lose its bow in astronomy and its stern-ornament in religious mythology while passing through the Clashing-Rocks.

* * *

One final piece of data illuminated how cuneiform wordplays encrypted in the Mesopotamian constellations could come to be recorded as history in Greek mythological literature. Walter Burkert, an expert in tracing aspects of Near Eastern culture into the Hellenic world, has remarked on the frustrating phenomenon that occurs whenever Akkadian words are adopted into the Greek language:

Greek language … absolutely rejects the use of unadapted foreign words; they are accepted only in perfectly assimilated form as to phonetics and inflexion. Thus there can be no method to discover borrowed words: They imitate and go into hiding, adapting themselves to the roots and suffixes of native Greek. (1992, 35)


What Burkert was getting at is that when Semitic (Akkadian, Hebrew, Phoenician, Aramaic, Arabic, etc.) words were borrowed into Greek, they typically retained their consonantal root but were then altered to suit the phonetic rules of the Greek language, thereby losing their original Semitic appearance. As an example, he cites the Greek unit of weight, mina. The Akkadian form of this word, manû, appears in Greek as mnea or mna. Thus, the Akkadian consonantal root m-n-’ was refitted with Hellenic vowels to suit the Greek language: mnea, mna.

As I perused Burkert’s published work (he is a friend of BYU professor Paul Hoskisson, who taught me Akkadian), I noticed another crucial cuneiform word that had possibly reemerged in the Greek language. The cuneiform logogram that preceded every star, constellation, and planet in Mesopotamian astronomical annals was MUL (star). And cuneiform grammatical texts—which were studied by both Mesopotamian magi and their Greek neophytes—unequivocally state that MUL also stood for the word šiṭru (“text, document, inscription”). I found this remarkable because šiṭru renders the consonantal root spelling, s-t-r, which after being reoutfitted with vowels to suit the grammatical rules of Greek, renders historia (“history”)—implying that this Hellenic word may have been a Mesopotamian loanword. Thus, one form of historia/history could be MUL (star, constellation)—which included lumāši-writing wordplays embedded in the constellation images and titles. This would explain why characters, props, and fantastical incidents encrypted in the Heavenly Writing of the Greek stars were reported as factual events.

This elucidated another perplexing fact from Mesopotamian history, one that had always baffled me. In the year 281 BC a Babylonian magos named Berossus wrote a work, called Babyloniaca in the Greek language, that had provided a history of Babylonian origins since the beginning of time—a history that even included a rendition of the Mesopotamian Flood story. I had wondered why a Babylonian astrologer would be selected to write an anthology of mythical events that were regarded as “history” by his countrymen. The answer was now obvious. Because he was a magos, Berossus would know how to decode and chronicle the immortal events that had taken place in Babylonia because they were encapsulated as pictures and puns in the constellation-gods’ images and titles.

Berossus’ idea of history was the product of the Babylonian mental map. I suddenly realized that because the astral sky was conceptualized as divine “writing,” a Babylonian astrologer would be the perfect chronicler of the stories encoded in this pun-based text, which were then translated into writing as history. This, I presumed, was the template for Greek and Mesopotamian religious mythology.

* * *

Once a cadre of elite, bilingual (cuneiform-Greek) Hellenic magi had been indoctrinated with the belief that the starry sky was a sacred scripture imbued with divine wisdom encrypted as wordplay, it was possible for them to decipher and compose their own independent record of the past. The stellar images and concealed puns that comprised each tableau were then woven into a storyline that was transcribed as a written history of the deities, their divine accessories, and magical feats we today regard as classical Greek mythology.

What I’ve exposed and presented thus far was, in truth, not all that difficult to discover. So how did the remarkable linguists and archaeologists of the modern era come to overlook this cipher?

I found the answer to that question in a debate that raged a century ago.

Basically, as both the story and the trope go, the mythologies presented as foundational to the structures of contemporary civilizations and cultures, through the written record, are in fact a purposeful byproduct of the creative synthesis of poets, playwrights, and learned men, as you would know them (astrologer-priests in Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia; sophisters, mathematicians and philosophers in Ancient Greece, and so on), who would often associate in collegiate settings, and would thoroughly draw upon the inspiration/traditions of their peers while composing their own works.

This tendency is often known as allusion, parody, reference .... all the wonderful literary devices which do significant work in masking the nativity of an adapted story, which might as well have been the birth child of another author or culture, while also paying homage and giving literary credit to said author/culture. It is one thing to transliterate a narrative from its mother tongue into that which a foreign reader might apprehend. It is a completely different thing to translate a narrative into a setting, and most importantly an ethnic psyche, with which that foreign reader will then not only understand, but also identify with and emulate its fantastic virtuosity in ethical character.

Think about all of the values with which a given mythology gives to its readers, especially the youngest ones, whose minds are formed while being thoroughly inculcated with the legends, myths, or histories. They're quite foundational, aren't they? They're also quite hard to get rid of, or to question their validity, since all it takes is merely a few generations of repetition for a mythological cycle to be cemented, and its origins largely forgotten ... only to be inquired with via those reclusive scholastic types, who simply find all the little philological links from what they read to be all too interesting.

Now from any sort of collaborative scholarship, you get dizzying troves of commentaries, colloquial derivatives, scholarly notes and treatises ... all of it coalesces into a damning sort of evidence that would undermine any effort to "reset" a paradigm of human memory, and especially that of human "progress". That's why the Library of Alexandria was burned down, several times?, all under the guise of martial strife, even accidentally by your own Julius Caesar, during his legion's encampment in the city. The later devastation purportedly took place during the Imperial period, however under the account of details in the transcripts, were actually in the dark ages due to the comet catastrophes shortly after Caesar's time, in which the historical years were wildly off mark -- so who knows how much of its chronology, or narrative, is not the result of creative cover-ups.

For libraries of smaller stature or renown, subsequent burning could have been easily done in haste, formally, or by scraping off the ink of vellum based parchment for eventual re-purpose of a bound tome. It's easy to justify it, by claiming pagan heresies, or whatnot.

So, I'm rather curious as to how far back your "Greek Enforcers" actually go, and if they're not synonymous with notorious groups today. Given your nice graphic -- they're all the same thing!?!