Weather Control: 3D and 4D Phenomenon? Who's on first? What's the science?

Ryan

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
During various sessions, the C's have hinted that humans may have some degree of influence over the weather, while outright stating that severe weather is often a form of "battle" between 4D forces, amongst the natural Earth Changes taking place:

C's Session 17th Feb 1996 said:
Q: (L) Can I ask my other questions? Some people on the net want me to ask about this HAARP thing... seems to be some sort of antennae thing...
A: Disguise for something else.
Q:
(L) What is that something else?
A: Project to apply EM wave theories to the transference of perimeters.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: If utilised as designed, will allow for controlled invisibility and easy movement between density levels on surface of planet as well as subterranially.
Q: (L) Who is in charge of building this thing?
A: More than one entity.
Q: (L) What groups?
A: INVELCO is one guise as well as UNICON and banking interest.
Q: (L) Who is in disguise as INVELCO and UNICON? Are they just dummy companies for cover?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Can you tell us if this is a human organization or aliens, or a combination?
A: Human at surface level.
Q:
(L) Whose idea was this project?
A: Not applicable.
Q: (L) Is there more you can tell us about this?
A: It has nothing to do with weather or climate. These things are emanating from 4th density, as we have told you before.
C's Session 22nd Feb 1997 said:
Q: [..] (L) Is the weather being controlled or changed or in any way affected by HAARP?
A: Climate is being influenced by three factors, and soon a fourth.
Q:
(L) All right, I'll take the bait; give me the three factors, and also the fourth!.
A: 1) Wave approach. 2) Chlorofluorocarbon increase in atmosphere, thus affecting ozone layer. 3) Change in the planet's axis rotation orientation. 4) Artificial tampering by 3rd and 4th density STS forces in a number of different ways.
C's Session 4th December 1999 said:
Q: [..] (L) But, the fact still remains, in my opinion, that there are a LOT, LOT, LOT of planes flying above us in the past few years! Whether they are dumping anything on our heads, or what, there are an extreme number of planes flying in these upper level criss-cross patterns. Now, whether they are just playing war-games, or they are spy planes, they are doing SOMETHING! What is the reason for all of this upper level flying that results in these criss-crossed contrails that everybody is seeing?
A: A lot of it is "training maneuver"oriented.
Q:
Why are they training so many pilots? What are they preparing for?
A: Military budgets must be justified, you know. Review "Military-Industrial Complex 101."
Q: So, this is just training flight, justification of budget, and nothing more than that?
A: Well, we would not say "not anything more to it than that," but, when you say "M-IC," you have said a lot!
Q: Are you implying that there is a build-up of the Military-Industrial Complex for a reason?
A: To preserve status quo during "peacetime." This peace business is not very profitable, you know.
C's Session 14th Sept 2001 said:
Q: Okay, what is causing this prolonged rainstorm. Besides the fact that it is a tropical system, it sure is sitting on top of us for a long time.
A: 4th density battle.
C's Session 20th October 2005 said:
Q: [..] (Perceval) I want to know about these strange formations on the radar image of Hurricane Rita.
A: 4th density “battle.” Also includes some “practice.”
Q: (L) They’re practicing with new weapons.
(Perceval) Some people said Katrina was the product of HAARP heating up the waters in the Gulf.
A: We’ve already dealt with HAARP and weather. Read transcripts.
Q: (DW) (Quoting transcripts) “HAARP has nothing to do with the weather or EM associated with same.” (Galahad) Which suggests that there is EM associated with the weather. There could be some EM stuff associated with the weather that isn’t part of HAARP. (L) 4th density. (Perceval) Were any of the storms manufactured from 3rd density or was it a natural storm?
A: Mfg in 3D? No. As we have said… 4D battles represent as weather. But the “veil” is thinning.
C's Session 7th Nov 2015 said:
Q: [..] (Perceval) What caused the downing of the Russian plane in the Sinai?
A: External, think Mossad and energy weapons.
Q:
(Andromeda) That was my first guess.
(Perceval) That was my first guess, as well.
(Approaching Infinity) Did it have anything to do with the US/Israel wargames happening then?
A: Cover for same.
Q: (L) What was that flight that went down over the Atlantic way back when? The C's talked about it.
(Perceval) TWA Flight 800?
(L) Yeah, Flight 800.
A: Yes. Similar system.
Q: (Niall) Did that incident have anything to do with the cyclone that was going toward Yemen?
A: Utilized energy.
Q:
(Perceval) Utilized energy in the 3D sense, or in the sense that weather can be associated with 4D?
A: Charged atmosphere enhances the effect.
Q:
(Pierre) During 9/11, there was a similar high-energy weapon in conjunction with an unexpected cyclone...
A: Yes
Q: (L) So they're just experimenting with this kind of stuff. They're playing with it.
A: Yes [..]
Q: (Perceval) Similar to that... Hurricane Rita on 9/11?
A: Yes
Q: (L) And it's funny: Everybody forgets about the fact that there was this hurricane there at that time.
(Pierre) Going straight to Manhattan, and then it turns!
(Niall) The one that hit Yemen was the first one ever to hit there.
(Perceval) Yeah, the first one to make landfall.
(Chu) So, that could mean they had some help from the 4D quarters.
A: Yes. We told you that the battles would be disguised as weather.
C's Session 27th Aug 2022 said:
Q: (L) Um... Since he's asked the question, are there indications that we could notice if we were paying attention and had a clue what we were supposed to be looking for, that would indicate to us the death or termination or something of any 4D beings that were engaged in this battle in the sky, so to speak?
A: Not that you would think of as different. That is, a volcanic eruption could represent the degaussing of a 4D STS being... or just a volcanic eruption.
Q: (L) So you're saying that some natural phenomena such as floods, fires, earthquakes, gigantic thunderbolts and all that kind of stuff, could represent this kind of conflict, and it could represent a degaussing event, but it doesn't always have to. Is that it?
A: Yes
Q: (L) And so because of that, we would not necessarily be able to tell. Is that it?
A: Yes
The image coming into focus here seems to be one of significant, localised 4D influence over natural processes, with humans having only the most rudimentary understanding of the physics and technologies behind such influences. Even 3D 'secret super-weapons' appear to lack the power to direct the forces of nature - only to tap them.

So, what IS the science behind all of this? Let's start the discussion with one example: cloud seeding. Here in Australia, cloud seeding has been experimented with quite a lot and from what I've read about the topic, it's an energy-intensive process that has delivered very modest results compared to the sorts of phenomena referred to above. From Australia's main government scientific organisation, the CSIRO, we find:

CSIROpedia said:

Cloud seeding​

By Colin Ward
March 18th, 2011

At the cessation of the Second World War Taffy Bowen and his staff at the Division of Radiophysics began to look around for work of interest to themselves and of importance to Australia. One of those areas was cloud and rain physics which Bowen initiated and led until his retirement in 1971. For over five decades, the study of clouds, rain and the atmosphere has been the work of the CSIRO Division of Cloud Physics, now known as Marine and Atmospheric Research.

The ‘rainmakers’ carried out experiments over South Australia, Tasmania, the Snowy Mountains, the Warragamba Dam catchment area west of Sydney and New England. They used dry ice and silver iodide to ‘seed’ clouds, which resulted in the production of rain.

The first year’s results were tremendously heartening, with rainfall increases of up to 30 per cent in the target areas. But frustration followed. Rainfall appeared to deteriorate and was more variable in the target areas than before the experiments started.


Today, CSIRO uses the lessons learnt from their cloud seeding experiments to develop better models for weather forecasting and changes in climate.

Early success​

In 1946 USA researchers I Langmuir and V Schaefer reported that rain could be induced by seeding clouds with dry ice. While many reacted cautiously to these claims Bowen immediately saw the potential importance of the technique for dry Australia. Within months, two members of his staff had investigated Langmuir and Schaefer’s work and, on their return, had carried out a trial in eastern New South Wales using RAAF aircraft. Success was immediate – the date was 5 February 1947. It was a day when deep cumulus cloud covered the country inland from Sydney. All the clouds appeared similar in type and size which was important for a clear-cut result. A plane dumped dry ice into one cloud and within minutes rain started to fall while the cloud-top mushroomed explosively. The rain lasted several hours and more than 12 millimetres fell over an area of 80 square kilometers. Surrounding clouds gave no rain. This is believed to be the first documented case anywhere in the world of an appreciable man-made rainfall reaching the ground and the first time that dynamic cloud growth had followed seeding. This striking result held such promise that a systematic program of cloud seeding was set up in February 1947 and continued for the next twenty-four years.

In Australia, where fickle rainfall has elated and then downcast countrymen from the time the first pioneers saw once brimming rivers and lush pastures fade to muddied waterholes and dustry earh, it was almost inevitable that the weather modification work of the Division of Cloud Physics should concentrate on rain-making. The Division’s work included theoretical, laboratory and airborne investigations of cloud structure and reaction.

The challenge​

Natural variability of rain has been the rain-makers’ single biggest headache. As the scientists recalled:
It makes it terribly difficult to prove anything. You can go to an area and influence rain-potential clouds so that it looks as if you have increased the rainfall. But how much rain would have fallen if you hadn’t interfered with them? On one occasion you simply can’t tell. But if you keep on repeating the experiment, and keep on increasing the rain, eventually you can prove you caused the increase.
In this cloud seeding research, the Division of Cloud Physics worked closely with State Departments of Agriculture. Each Department had regional referees to evaluate rain needs and public opinion in various areas. Before any rain-making program started, public meetings were held to vote on the issue. But the weather is never right for everyone and the Division received letters from irate landowners blaming rain-making experiments for unwanted downpours.

Multiple approaches​

As little was known about the properties of clouds in Australia or the mechanisms of rainfall, Bowen initiated a vigorous research program of cloud studies. This included not only the effects of adding dry ice to cold clouds, but also the effect of spraying water into warm clouds which are responsible for much of the rainfall in the warmer parts of Australia. Bowen took part in the latter work himself and during 1950-55 published papers on the theory of coalescent rainfall and directed experimental trials.

Dry ice has a temperature of -80 °C or colder. If a piece the size of a pea is dropped into a supercooled cloud it will fall as far as three kilometres before evaporating completely, leaving a wake of ice crystals. In the right conditions, each crystal will feed on cloud droplets to form a large snowflake which melts to a raindrop as it reaches lower and warmer levels. This attractively simple principle was used from 1947 to 1950 near Sydney when 45-kilogram loads of dry ice were dropped into suitable clouds, their near neighbours being left unseeded to provide a basis for comparison. The principle seemed to work best with continental cumulus cloud masses where the air was dirty so that lots of small droplets were formed which were unlikely to coalesce of their own accord.

The difficulty with this method of stimulating rainfall was that only a few clouds could be treated on any one day and large amounts of dry ice were required. This limitation was overcome by the discovery, again in the USA, that tiny quantities of silver iodide smoke could be used as a seeding agent. Unlike many of his contemporaries, Bowen saw the potential for seeding large areas from the air using silver iodide burners mounted on an aircraft. Silver iodide smoke particles provide ‘kernels’ on which ice crystals can grow in a supercooled cloud. Theoretically, grams of silver iodide will do much the same job as kilograms of dry ice, so that smaller and cheaper aircraft can be used. Silver iodide seems to work best in layer clouds formed in air coming in from the sea.

From 1955 to 1963 the rain-makers carried out four intensive experiments over South Australia, the Snowy Mountains, the Warragamba Dam catchment area west of Sydney, and the New England region of NSW. For each experiment there was a target area of 2 000 to 8 000 square kilometres and a neighbouring control area of the same size which was not seeded. A network of up to 150 rain gauges covered each area. The first two years were so successful, with an estimated rainfall increase of 25%, that several more regions were quickly selected. There the early indications were also successful, but in many subsequent years all areas showed a gradual decay of the induced rainfall with time. Most people would have become discouraged by such a result and given up. Bowen, however, proposed a simple explanation, based on the idea that a persistence phenomenon

The Tasmanian cloud-seeding experiments​

Tasmania was chosen for subsequent cloud-seeding trials. The experiments were designed to compensate for quirks in the results of previous experiments, which had frustrated the rain-makers and led them to a serious re-evaluation of their programs. This experiment in 1971 was a success but since Bowen had now retired, the result was not immediately attributed to the correctness of his persistence hypothesis

Subsequent work by EK Bigg has done much to explain the detailed mechanism of the phenomenon.
With the continuing success of cloud seeding work by the Australian states of Tasmania and Victoria and the recognition of the role of persistence, there appears now to be a promising future for the rain making techniques that Bowen did so much to pioneer.

Bowen’s theories on periodic rainfall​

Bowen’s remarkable energy and enthusiasm were evident also in other programs. He was not afraid to speculate and presented his intuitive ideas with a persuasive and engaging optimism that was either inspiring or alarming to his colleagues, depending on their views of science. Two of his well known theories about periodic rainfall variations illustrate this.

The influence of meteor showers​

From the daily rainfall records for Sydney over the period 1859 to 1952 and for stations elsewhere in New South Wales and in other countries, Bowen found well defined peaks of rainfall in January and February. These anomalies he correlated with the passage of the Earth, 30 days earlier, through specific meteor streams that orbit the sun. He suggested that the smaller particles fell through the atmosphere to cloud level in 30 days, where they induced the observed rainfall.

The apparent physical implausibility of this hypothesis attracted a wave of criticism: the number of particles was insufficient, the fall time would not be fixed, and the particles would not form ice crystals. Even the reality of the anomalies was vigorously questioned, but independent analysis showed that they were statistically significant. But Bowen was not impressed by purely statistical arguments and insisted that his staff probe crucial aspects of his hypothesis by empirical tests in clouds. Whether he was right to invoke meteor showers to explain the rainfall anomalies and if so, how they influenced clouds after a fixed time interval, has yet to be demonstrated.

Lunar effects​

In 1962, following a paper published in the USA, Bowen and Adderley showed that there were similar lunar effects in the monthly rainfall records for fifty New Zealand stations with comparable magnitude and closely related phase. The reality of the effect was beyond doubt. Independent frequency analysis revealed an amplitude variation of 20% and a periodicity of 29.5307 days. The mean period between full moons is 29.5306 days.

Bowen suggested that the Moon, revolving about the Earth, could modulate the amount of meteor dust reaching the Earth, and later showed that meteor rates in both the northern and southern hemispheres varied similarly with lunar phase. He argued that the Moon could intercept the particles or alternatively could deflect them because of electrostatic charges on the Moon and particles.
Modern studies by his colleague, EK Bigg, however, suggest that the Moon’s influence on rainfall is more likely to be caused by the lunar tides in the Earth’s atmosphere.

Conclusion​

The cloud and rain physics group, under Bowen’s leadership, worked in a most stimulating environment. Even his more speculative ideas sometimes drove his critics to discover truths that would otherwise have remained hidden. Over twenty-four years, the group established a high international reputation with its achievements and an impressive number of sound scientific publications.
Bowen's interest in cometary and meteor particle streams and electrostatic effects influencing rainfall is worth noting. Maybe he was on to something?

For all this excellent research though, there's little evidence of any kind of applied technological outcome. It seems that if we want to understand the possibilities humans have of influencing the weather in any acute sense, we need to look less at chemical and material processes and more towards principles of physics that can transcend the boundary between densities. That looks to be where the real power to 'change the climate' resides.
 
For all this excellent research though, there's little evidence of any kind of applied technological outcome.
There is almost no evidence of the weather modification technologies. That does not mean these technologies are not applied. Moreover we find out that these technologies were heavily researched since 80 years ago, but were abandoned as being unable to integrate with natural unpredictability.
What we do not know is anything about current level of tech research. Kept in the dark, and since we are and heavily so, no wonder the rational accepts supernatural as the first logical explanation, and turns doing into reading signs from above. After all, as helpless little bugs we should stick to our tiktok neck of the woods.
I am not excluding any parallel dimensions and I remember what the Cs said, but shouldn't there be a 'something' that says, Thou shalt thinketh of higher dimensions IF and only IF you have exhausted the reasons created by the one you're ineth.
 
You are absolutely correct, there is little evidence that we can effectively change the weather with current knowledge. You can’t just go sprinkling faerie dust on a cloud and expect it to change appropriately.

First you need to know how weather is formed, it is not from faerie dust, it’s from a deeper understand of the subject.

I’ve seen this in times past, a thermal event in the magma of the planet swirls below a storm … it flows in the same direction as the storm … magma circulates hotter during a high pressure and colder during a low pressure. Now is it the magma circulating following the storm or the visa-versa, that is a good question. I believe it follows another source.

Moreover, to move these storms and magma circulations you need something pretty big to do that like our sun, the sunspot activity is dense right now, it could always get worse. Now I see it … and I expect others are seeing it too … our weather is in turmoil right now, could that be because of the sunspot activity … I see a definite correlation.

So, in my understanding here, the easiest way to affect the weather here is that you have to produce an effect in the sun to cause it. Cause and effect, that is all there is … just remember that there are repercussions to all elements of this. What you do to change something here changes something everywhere, all planets, all densities and all realities … to me this is a scary thought.

I guarantee you there is knowledge out there to do this and I am pretty sure that a fourth density or above soul will be able to access it. And I am pretty sure that they wouldn’t let a third density soul do this as they don’t have enough of an understanding of what they could do … just to make it rain in this one spot they want it to. Don’t get me wrong, we need to try these things, test and get results to learn, these who do this today may be the ones who really do this in another density, another reality. Pretty much proves how much human interference we would need to do to cause any effect, we ain't even close.

Out there somewhere in the densities is the control panel for the sun, it is manned by a higher soul right now … and they are tweaking with the sun as we speak … and they know what they are doing and the repercussions … but it can only go so fast, or we have destruction at all levels. Haiku …

‘We have so little understanding of what we do yet, what we can do in the future’

‘This life is but a shadow of a complete life, and there are many shadows. It’s where you came from before this life, it’s where you will go after this life, it all about the lessons you learn on the way’, it all starts with a thought …
 
During various sessions, the C's have hinted that humans may have some degree of influence over the weather, while outright stating that severe weather is often a form of "battle" between 4D forces, amongst the natural Earth Changes taking place:

The image coming into focus here seems to be one of significant, localised 4D influence over natural processes, with humans having only the most rudimentary understanding of the physics and technologies behind such influences. Even 3D 'secret super-weapons' appear to lack the power to direct the forces of nature - only to tap them.

So, what IS the science behind all of this? Let's start the discussion with one example: cloud seeding. Here in Australia, cloud seeding has been experimented with quite a lot and from what I've read about the topic, it's an energy-intensive process that has delivered very modest results compared to the sorts of phenomena referred to above. From Australia's main government scientific organisation, the CSIRO, we find:

Bowen's interest in cometary and meteor particle streams and electrostatic effects influencing rainfall is worth noting. Maybe he was on to something?

For all this excellent research though, there's little evidence of any kind of applied technological outcome. It seems that if we want to understand the possibilities humans have of influencing the weather in any acute sense, we need to look less at chemical and material processes and more towards principles of physics that can transcend the boundary between densities. That looks to be where the real power to 'change the climate' resides.
Will be collecting these (and more) for a Substack post. If anyone has other quotes that come to mind, post them here and we'll be sure to include them.
 
The interesting thing about the CSIRO article is that dry ice was used as a cloud seeding agent. Dry ice is frozen CO2 so if 4D has an interest in reducing CO2 levels in the atmosphere, perhaps they were behind the persistence phenomenon that led to dropping the use of CO2 in favour of silver iodide.
 
The interesting thing about the CSIRO article is that dry ice was used as a cloud seeding agent. Dry ice is frozen CO2 so if 4D has an interest in reducing CO2 levels in the atmosphere, perhaps they were behind the persistence phenomenon that led to dropping the use of CO2 in favour of silver iodide.
zero CO2= zero plant, animal and human life. I would not count on the friendliness of the 4D.
 
The interesting thing about the CSIRO article is that dry ice was used as a cloud seeding agent. Dry ice is frozen CO2 so if 4D has an interest in reducing CO2 levels in the atmosphere, perhaps they were behind the persistence phenomenon that led to dropping the use of CO2 in favour of silver iodide.
The article explains it. It's simply more efficient due to the much lesser mass of silver iodide required.
 
If you want a summary picture of the weather modification technologies, ask chatGPT.

If you want to see the research gap opportunities, start searching SCI HUB. Just remember to look at the current situation of peer reviewed paper retractions.

One more thing, do not expect to find real complete and comprehensive information ( including data) newer than 2015. Private companies do not publish and any NDA has min 10 years duration.
 
During various sessions, the C's have hinted that humans may have some degree of influence over the weather
Here is the session you are referring to, though back in 1997 they spoke about it as something that would start happening in the future:

February 22, 1997

A: Climate is being influenced by three factors, and soon a fourth.

Q:
(L) All right, I'll take the bait; give me the three factors, and also the fourth!.

A: 1) Wave approach. 2) Chlorofluorocarbon increase in atmosphere, thus affecting ozone layer. 3) Change in the planet's axis rotation orientation. 4) Artificial tampering by 3rd and 4th density STS forces in a number of different ways. Be vigilant. Be observant. Be cautious in your planning and be aware. Do not let emotional anomalies cloud your knowledge base. This is not a "time" to let one's guard down. Be especially careful of travel to unfamiliar locators, as well as sleeping in unfamiliar surroundings!!! You are being watched. Or, at least, it is best to assume you are, and act, think, and prepare accordingly. Remember what you have been warned about concerning attack. As you learn more and know more, you become more interesting... and, when your ranks swell, you are more vulnerable unless you are more aware!!

Q: (L) All right, were those given in the order in which they are occurring? The fourth being the one that's coming later?

A: Maybe, but remember this: a change in the speed of the rotation may not be reported while it is imperceptible except by instrumentation. Equator is slightly "wider" than the polar zones. But, this discrepancy is decreasing slowly currently. One change to occur in 21st Century is sudden glacial rebound, over Eurasia first, then North America. Ice ages develop much, much, much faster than thought.
 
Here is another quote that might fit into the substack article. This whole 28 May 2013 session I think should be reviewed since there is a long discussion and quotes from other sessions relating to weather, 'sheets of rain', comets, etc.

28 May 2013 said:
Q: (L) Her idea that it was strange and unknown is probably the one correct thing. But her answers, her Hutchison Effect and Zero Point stuff, that is just all her assumptions. It's allgiving the wrong answers. It's also giving the wrong answers for the alternative people who believe it, and causing them to lose information. It's driving away people who might be able to observe the problem and solve it by the absurdity of those answers and by her behavior. (Andromeda) Same thing with those actors people. There was a setup, and a drama, but they made it totally absurd. (L) It's what Jacques Vallee described as the Truth Train. If people are on a train headed for truth, the best way to divert them since you can't stop the train or you don’t want to be seen stopping the train, is you get there in the engine and you just start stoking up the fire until the train goes so fast that it runs off the track and they all get killed. (Perceval) The only thing I can think of is that somebody else was coming along parallel to Judy Wood who was going to go in that direction, and they got her in there first as their man. At such a late stage, it's better that her book is out there instead of nothing. (Anart) But you're reading it already informed. Other people aren't reading it with that same lens, so they're reading it and they just come to her conclusions. You never did that. You said there's great info here, BUT... (L) Did Hurricane Erin play a role in the 9/11 attacks?

A: Indeed: portal for the utilized energies.

And another quote and full session that might be worth re-reading for the fuller discussion, which might apply.

12 Dec 2010 said:
Q: (L) Well, on that point, McCanney says that when the Earth gets into this kind of situation where there’s a discharge thing going on, between the sun and another body and the earth gets involved in it, that the earth itself becomes comet like during that time and it begins also to attract what he calls pollution events. It starts picking up all kinds of dust and stuff from outer space – and even the water volume on the planet gets increased because of this precipitating, because the planet’s picking stuff up from space. It’s growing from accumulating stuff, from acquiring stuff. And if that’s the case, we could be attracting dust loading in the upper atmosphere-regardless of whether or not we pass through cometary dust clouds. All these things that we’ve been noticing going on in the upper atmosphere – strange clouds, long-lasting contrails, extreme cooling - could be exactly as he described. There could also be atmospheric effects of these electric sheets, because he says that there are different kinds of ways of currents and layers of currents. He’s got like a five layer model of how the electromagnetic field of the planet goes, and he says that it’s the cause of El Nino, it’s the cause of Earthquakes, volcanoes , storms, changing of the Jet Stream, and just a whole host of things: it’s all electrical phenomena. He says that the electricity from the sun creates and drives hurricanes and that it is not the temperature of the water. Because he said that if it had to do with the temperatures of the water, one hurricane comes along, sucks all the heat out – then it would be impossible for another hurricane to form for a period of time. And yet you see very often, hurricane after hurricane. So, is he on to something with this theory?

A: Oh you bet!
 
I had never seen this short interview or heard of this woman, Kristen Meghan, before I saw this recently. She is a US Air Force Veteran that came out as a whistleblower in relation to chemtrails and weather modification by the US military/gov't. Let me know if it is worth it and I can transcribe the interview or try to find more information online.

 
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