What are you listening to?

Musicinventor said:
Some food for thought…
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Thank you, that was an instructive video!
Even after listening to them just once, these pop songs 'stick' in your head. It's hard to get rid of them; they are so repetitive!
Classical music doesn't have that effect. I feel like classical music doesn't violate my free will!
Laura said:
Q: (Joe) True. (Scott) I wonder if that's why there are certain bands where the people totally can't sing, but everyone thinks they're great - I mean, above and beyond marketing and all that kind of stuff?

A: Yes! And some of them activate "interesting" frequencies!

Q: (L) When you say "interesting", what does that mean?

A: Shall we say that it is planned and deliberate for nefarious purposes.

Q: (Joe) What music were you thinking about, Scottie? (Scottie) I was just thinking after our talk the other day about objectively and subjectively good music and everything. I was thinking about some of the popular music, like pretty much everything... Like my workout music, grunge music, electric guitar music, rap music - all these different types of popular music. And some of it is actually done by somebody who can't even sing at all and people just absolutely love it. So there are all these different genres where some bands become popular, whereas you can go to a bar and here's somebody singing a song and they're ten times better, but... (L) But they're not famous. (Scottie) So why do these people who have absolutely no talent become famous, beyond the fact that they were "discovered", or advertising, etc...

A: Laurel Canyon anyone?
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(Scottie) So why do these people who have absolutely no talent become famous, beyond the fact that they were "discovered", or advertising, etc...

I recall an interview with Joan Baez who was talking about why she left the business. She said that todays "stars" are picked based on how easy they are to handle.

Natus Videre said:
Thank you, that was an instructive video!
Even after listening to them just once, these pop songs 'stick' in your head. It's hard to get rid of them; they are so repetitive!
Classical music doesn't have that effect. I feel like classical music doesn't violate my free will!
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Classical composition is actually full of repetition! The difference is, Classical music is based on variation, or what Arnold Schoenberg termed "varied repetition". Pop is just pure, unadulterated, repetition.

Developing variation - Wikipedia

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Musicinventor said:
Classical composition is actually full of repetition! The difference is, Classical music is based on variation, or what Arnold Schoenberg termed "varied repetition". Pop is just pure, unadulterated, repetition.
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And then there is the other side of the spectrum—no repetition at all!
I recently came across a TEDTalk by a mathematician named Scott Rickard who set out to create the “ugliest” piece of music possible. It’s a fun clip, and can be viewed in its entirety here:

The basic premise is that “beauty” in music comes from patterns and repetition, and so our perception of “ugliness” results from the lack of these things. And this is basically true. As Rickard points out, the music we love is full of repeated patterns, and as listeners–consciously or unconsciously–we try to predict how these patterns will unfold. This is not to say that good music is endlessly repetitive (though some gets close)–just like a good book or film, there is joy both in the fulfillment of something we saw coming, and also in the surprise plot twist that subverts our expectations. Of course, we can only really have expectations when we are able to recognize a pattern in the first place.

At the end of the video, Rickard shares an original piece of music for piano where he has applied mathematical principles to ensure that no musical material is repeated. Not only is each note on the piano played only once, but the distance (the pitch interval) between each pair of notes is never repeated. Even the amount of time between two notes is unique to each pair.

You’d be hard-pressed to identify any patterns in this music, let alone predict which note was coming next (or when it would appear). It’s played for laughs in the moment, but it also raises an interesting question: would it be possible to use a lack of repetition to produce music that might be, in fact, beautiful?

Usually elements that are not pattern-based occur at an extremely local level in music, meaning that they are very brief in duration, or limited to certain instruments, but not others. For example, even though all popular music is built on top of a steady beat, there are (almost) always moments where the pattern is disrupted. Sometimes the same note of the beat is played on a different instrument for emphasis (for example, using the crash cymbal instead of the hi hat). Or the rhythm may change to make a passage more exciting, as in a fill at the end of a musical phrase. In both cases, it’s a momentary variation that the listener can compare directly with the pattern preceding and following it–it is meaningful to us to the extent that we can recognize its difference.
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Music Without Repetition – Drake Andersen

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Liliea said:

Dobranotch - Du Hast​

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Haha nice, lighthearted rendition of a fairly dry song, musically speaking. That is the case with Rammstein in general (I mean, you cant expect much nuance from germans..), something I was reminded of recently when listening to old playlists.

It prompted me to queue something similarly folky and soothing, orginal not a cover

 
I would like to share one singer that I had discover recently. She has astonishing voice. Almost, as if it is not from this world. Some info about her, especially is interesting her early life:

Diana Dmitrievna Ankudinova (Russian: Диана Дмитриевна Анкудинова, born May 31, 2003) is a Russian singer. Diana Ankudinova's performances were posted on the NTV web site and the NTV YouTube channel, where they soon gained hundreds of millions of views around the world. Diana Ankudinova sings mostly in Russian, English and French. She has also sung in other languages including Spanish, German and Arabic.
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Early life:
At the age of three, Diana was left at a bus stop in the winter with a broken collarbone. Diana's biological aunt rescued Diana from the street, but was unable to care for the traumatized child. Diana's aunt made a statement about the abuse of Diana to the local prosecutor, and it was agreed that the young Diana should be turned over to the care of an orphanage in Primorsky Territory which provided for the care of abandoned young children in the general area.

Children from the orphanage were periodically sent to a sanatorium in Arsenyev to help them regain and maintain their physical and mental health. A massage therapist, Irina Anatolyevna Ponik, who worked at the sanatorium developed a special affection for Diana. The daughter of Irina Ponik, who sometimes visited her mother at work, was the one who first began to insist that her mother adopt Diana.

In 2008, Irina Ponik filed the necessary paperwork to assume formal legal guardianship of Diana Ankudinova with the territorial department of guardianship and trusteeship. The new family lived in Arsenyev. In 2012, the family moved far away to the city of Tolyatti in the Samara Oblast of southwestern Russia. The move to Tolyatti was mostly due to Diana's fears that her biological mother might try to find and abuse Diana or even attempt to regain custody of Diana. These fears were so intense that they had been significantly affecting young Diana's mental health.
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More about Diana and her career you can check out on Wikipedia.

DIANA ANKUDINOVA (Диана Анкудинова) Last Dance (Dernière danse) "First Audition" (Age 14 yo)​


DIANA ANKUDINOVA (Диана Анкудинова) Wicked Game (Age 15 yo)​


Can't help falling in love (Stereo) – Diana Ankudinova @ ShowMaskGoOn, Round 1 (Grammy awards)​

 
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