What globe? Flat Earth and Flat-Earthers

[Beau]

Re: Is the Earth an enclosed technologically created world, and NOT a globe?

That was one of the point of the vid. If you { as a human} would walk across the ice and find a wall/dome, you think, wow a wall! then you think, what's this here for? and who built it? why? and then when the populous finds out, we have common prepose....

You're assuming that you'll find a wall/dome. Everything after that is dependent on that assumption, which is in no way a given. Not to mention that this whole idea rests on that idea. I agree, I find this whole discussion preposterous, the argument for flat earth seemingly based wholly on the above. Isn't there more important things to worry about???

 

[mkrnhr]

Re: Is the Earth an enclosed technologically created world, and NOT a globe?

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[Buddy]

Re: Is the Earth an enclosed technologically created world, and NOT a globe?

I think education has a lot to do with it, but more so I think it's addictive. Kind of like a roller coaster, it's thrilling to not be grounded.

Similar to other addicts, recovering alcoholics particularly, it happens that once they feel "I'm ok", that "I got this" and "I've quite for good," they are then compelled to "flirt" with it, to somehow "prove" to themselves they don't need a drink by taking a drink. Then, one leads to another until they've forgotten themselves and they question why they were even on the wagon to start with. It's a different mentality.

...it's the level of delusion that is stunning.

Yeah, once upon a time, this kinda stuff compelled me to want to find the "silver bullet" that will go right to the heart of the matter in order to put it to rest permanently. I still feel tempted sometimes, but I recognize that for most people, this "heart" is a distributed organ and mutates as needed to stay alive.

But this is enough of my philosophizing. Personally, I'm done with the investigation insofar as my own curiosity is involved. All the Administrators and the rest of you say what I'm thinking much more beautifully than I can say it!!

 

[RedFox]

Re: Is the Earth an enclosed technologically created world, and NOT a globe?

That was one of the point of the vid. If you { as a human} would walk across the ice and find a wall/dome, you think, wow a wall! then you think, what's this here for? and who built it? why? and then when the populous finds out, we have common prepose....

I think if it's that important to you, you should go find that wall.

In the mean time, the rest of us have other more urgent things to focus on:

Why don't you focus on the important things in your life. Being a better human being. Being more aware of the situation that actually has a real, possibly deadly, affect on you. Why don't you pay attention to the police who might taser you, the loss of your freedom of speech, the encroaching specter of social authoritarians. The possible economic crash that could put you on the street, and make you starve.

This flat earth crap is a just a distraction. Jesus effing Christ, you're running through the jungle from a Dire Wolf about to eat you alive and you wanna stop to muse about the shape of the earth. Run you fool.

 

[Chu]

Re: Is the Earth an enclosed technologically created world, and NOT a globe?

"Why would the world being flat really be such a problem? Why bother to maintain the lie? Exactly how would the people with guns and power lose their power based on the shape of the earth? The idea that this is some catastrophic piece of information that would change the world for the better or worse, or that people would rise up in revolution against the elite, for what? The earth was flat all along."

That was one of the point of the vid. If you { as a human} would walk across the ice and find a wall/dome, you think, wow a wall! then you think, what's this here for? and who built it? why? and then when the populous finds out, we have common prepose....

I hear you Duke, but in that case, then people are more idiotic and have less fiber than we could possibly imagine. Let's say it's true, and there is a wall/dome. Did you really need THAT in order to ask questions about why we are here, who "God" is, how humanity is mechanical, how we are being controlled in much cleverer ways than with a silly "dome", etc.? People have thousands of signs in this nicely "round" world already to notice that something is not quite like they tell us. Flat Earth or not, the questions should and have been posed for ages (by a few), while the big masses just stay asleep. If we can so easily be convinced that we live in a dome contrary to the simplest of observations, then.... well, I'm at loss for words. Someone must have watched the movie The True Man Show way too often.

Humanity SHOULD have a common purpose already, but psychopathology and probably the very design of this world/density prevents that. The whole idea of a dome could just as well be designed as a distraction, for them to chase after ridiculous theories, just like the whole chemtrail movement. Then they would have a government to blame, etc. But they would be so easily discredited that the whole thing would be in vain.

Is there a better point/explanation/proof for this flat Earth business than that? Because again, this is just... well... why are we even discussing it if this is their whole banana? In the meantime, the REAL world, what we can see AS IT IS, is burning. Geez...

 

[lucasraffablog]

Re: Is the Earth an enclosed technologically created world, and NOT a globe?

Traveling by plane solves the problem.

1) A thousands meters, one can see the curvature of the Earth.
2) In a plane, you have two diametrically opposed points, which (say Los Angeles and Tokyo) 25-30-40 should take hours to arrive, but it takes only 11 hours because it is by the Pacific. The same applies in the transpolar flight of Aerolineas Argentinas between Buenos Aires and Sydney, thats 14 hours. A flight Buenos Aires-Cape Town-Sydney at least 20-24 hours.

I think there is much more to discuss.

 

[Duke]

Re: Is the Earth an enclosed technologically created world, and NOT a globe?

That's the whole "jists" of the video!!!! not that the earth is flat. It's flat because it's MADE flat..... the whole thing is just a construction and ant farm so to speak. Still no one watched the video...... Yes it hurt my head to do so BUT I watched it and now I comment on the whole presentation. Yes It's stupid... but there are questions that are relevant.
If you told someone that the earth was flat and the whole place is a construction. Or you tell them there are beings that throw people into a blender and drink there juices though their skin. they are both bloody weird story's. NO???
At this point I'm not making sense to myself !!! lol hahahah I'm going out for a Smoke.

 

[Buddy]

Re: Is the Earth an enclosed technologically created world, and NOT a globe?

with Mkrnr...

That crew are masters of parodying the preposterous pronouncements and pjeroatives of the puffed up puffery of the perennial pronouncements and politics of the populace.

Not to mention damning the dogmatic dogmatisms of the doggone dummies dominating the demographics.

 

[Laura]

Re: Is the Earth an enclosed technologically created world, and NOT a globe?

That's the whole "jists" of the video!!!! not that the earth is flat. It's flat because it's MADE flat..... the whole thing is just a construction and ant farm so to speak. Still no one watched the video...... Yes it hurt my head to do so BUT I watched it and now I comment on the whole presentation. Yes It's stupid... but there are questions that are relevant.
If you told someone that the earth was flat and the whole place is a construction. Or you tell them there are beings that throw people into a blender and drink there juices though their skin. they are both bloody weird story's. NO???
At this point I'm not making sense to myself !!! lol hahahah I'm going out for a Smoke.

Please list the relevant questions/issues posed by the video.

 

[Laura]

Re: Is the Earth an enclosed technologically created world, and NOT a globe?

Traveling by plane solves the problem.

1) A thousands meters, one can see the curvature of the Earth.
2) In a plane, you have two diametrically opposed points, which (say Los Angeles and Tokyo) 25-30-40 should take hours to arrive, but it takes only 11 hours because it is by the Pacific. The same applies in the transpolar flight of Aerolineas Argentinas between Buenos Aires and Sydney, thats 14 hours. A flight Buenos Aires-Cape Town-Sydney at least 20-24 hours.

I think there is much more to discuss.

Could you please make your points more clearly? I have NO freaking clue what you are intending to say here.

 

[Buddy]

Re: Is the Earth an enclosed technologically created world, and NOT a globe?

That's the whole "jists" of the video!!!! not that the earth is flat. It's flat because it's MADE flat..... the whole thing is just a construction and ant farm so to speak. Still no one watched the video...... Yes it hurt my head to do so BUT I watched it and now I comment on the whole presentation. Yes It's stupid... but there are questions that are relevant.
If you told someone that the earth was flat and the whole place is a construction. Or you tell them there are beings that throw people into a blender and drink there juices though their skin. they are both bloody weird story's. NO???
At this point I'm not making sense to myself !!! lol hahahah I'm going out for a Smoke.

One of the points flowing this discussion is that ordinary people are simply in no shape at all to formulate accurate, coherent thought. Ponerization matters. To the extent we can deal with it as best we can and then move on.

 

[Keyhole]

Re: Is the Earth an enclosed technologically created world, and NOT a globe?

This flat earth crap is a just a distraction. Jesus effing Christ, you're running through the jungle from a Dire Wolf about to eat you alive and you wanna stop to muse about the shape of the earth. Run you fool.

Couldn't have said it better.

I think education has a lot to do with it, but more so I think it's addictive. Kind of like a roller coaster, it's thrilling to not be grounded and even better that by not committing to anything you don't have to ever get close to life or take responsibility.
Both end up falling into wishful/magical thinking and story telling. Either because it's exciting and addictive or because it's rewarding to follow a particular authority.

I think this is really the crux of the matter. From what I have seen, most of the followers seem to have already become disillusioned with the false reality presented by the official authorities, and once they realise that we are lied to alot in this reality, suddenly ALL critical cognitive faculties switch off. Its like complete black and white thinking kicks in, and from that point onward EVERYTHING that is officially accepted among the masses MUST be a conspiracy. An example that comes to mind is that of a rebellious teenager who actively seeks to defy all forms of authority.

To fully acknowledge the state of the world and the position of man is a hurtful process which may begin, only then be diverted off track toward an idea that ultimately (somehow?) negates a person of all responsibility and detracts from the REAL issues on this planet. This is what it seems like with my parents anyway, a partial awakening quickly followed by a complete reversion into an even deeper delusional state than before.

Hey, apparently the "stars are just lights hanging in the sky" ... "Who are we to know eh? Everything we have been told is a lie ;)"

FWIW I watched this video when researching flat earth. It is a mechanical engineer who is an ex-flat earther and he has a few videos briefly explaining the problems with the theory from his perspective and theorizes that it is basically a COINTELPRO op. Hes a bit of a querky character but I enjoyed watching him speak. This is the first part. To watch the others you need to go onto his channel and find p1,p2 and p3.

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[Duke]

Re: Is the Earth an enclosed technologically created world, and NOT a globe?

Redfox you didn't call me a fool now did you??

 

[RedFox]

Re: Is the Earth an enclosed technologically created world, and NOT a globe?

That's the whole "jists" of the video!!!! not that the earth is flat. It's flat because it's MADE flat..... the whole thing is just a construction and ant farm so to speak. Still no one watched the video...... Yes it hurt my head to do so BUT I watched it and now I comment on the whole presentation. Yes It's stupid... but there are questions that are relevant.
If you told someone that the earth was flat and the whole place is a construction. Or you tell them there are beings that throw people into a blender and drink there juices though their skin. they are both bloody weird story's. NO???
At this point I'm not making sense to myself !!! lol hahahah I'm going out for a Smoke.

Duke, have you read the Wave Series? The world is a farm, but it's more complex than is being presented in the video.
It sounds like this flat earth thing is similar to David Ickes take on it, some truth mixed with lots of absurdity and lies.

Redfox you didn't call me a fool now did you??

No, but I believe that if something is really important to someone they should peruse it.

 

[Richs]

Re: Is the Earth an enclosed technologically created world, and NOT a globe?

"Why would the world being flat really be such a problem?

I'll try to put this in a way that should be easy for anyone to understand. If the Earth really were flat, that in itself might lead to lots of questions, but would itself not be a problem.

The "problem" is that the Earth is NOT flat, but a spheroid, and any statement to the contrary by anyone for any reason is either because they are deluded, can not interpret the massive amount of evidence which proves it is so, or they are lying for whatever purpose they may have.