What supplements do you take?

Holy ! I thought I was supplementing more than enough. I gotta speed up on the health forum on vitamins.

Vitamin C: 1 g and only 2 g when the workout is excruciating. Sometimes I just take 500 mg.
One glass of water with 3 lemons in the morning, and sometimes before sleeping.

Electrolytes in powder, sometimes I add more electrolytes from fluids only when my workout is hard.
Potassium: 99 mg
Magnesium: 12 mg
Calcium: 30 mg
Manganese: 2 mg

Beta Alanine
L-aspartic acid
Glycerol
L-Leucine
Glycine
These come in powder form too, 1000 mg each one

Another blend for recovery and endurance only in workout days, though they are needed aminos: 1,230 mg
Taurine, Acetyl-L-Carnitine, L-Tyrosine, psoralea, yohimbe, L-ornithine.

Complex B vitamins, after workout to absorb nutrients.
phosphatidylcholine: 5 mg
phosphatidylserine: 5 mg (my couch told me to take these to improve my sleep and rebuild neurological connections, i've found they usually come in vitamin b complex too)

And pretty much 300,00 mg of fish oil that includes vitamin A and D.

And 6 eggs daily, for one reason eggs are becoming very expensive. Anyways, what I'm amazed is the amount of supplementation some of you take, as it really fits the supplementation a pro athlete takes, every type of pro athlete, endurance, power lifter, bodybuilder, fitness model, sport athlete. It seems that those responsible for telling the recommended doses everywhere is doing a wrong job, as the needed amount of nutrients is almost impossible to receive by natural food. In bodybuilding they ask you to take creatine 3 grams or 5 grams, before and after to rebuild the muscle and recover the nervous system. Creatine comes in red meats, but to be able to take all the creatine daily you need to eat believe me, an incredible quantity of meat, plus the other food you have to eat. One day may not seem expensive, but try to do it daily is just... at least here is very expensive.

I can consider you high esoteric performance athletes. :P
 
Having trawled the numerous discussions from neurotransmitters to going keto, I put together a shopping list and invested the last of my pennies in a supplement plan. Over all it should last about 3 months and though for now I have limited finances, I hope to be able to assess what is working and where to next..

Issues: whiplash around my back and chest (resulting in shallow breathing and daily aches and pains from the knots). Anxiety and stress, general but informed by child hood trauma. Debilitating insomnia related to the aforementioned but aggravated by an unhealthy party lifestyle in my 20's. The only other issue I would mention, though there are others, is this sensation I have had in my stomach/bottom of rib cage/solar plexus (?); it happens when I anticipate a stressful issue, and feels like a 'trickling' sensation, lasts seconds and i can preempt and stop it sometimes, as if the cortisol is being dripped into my stomach. So it's like butterflies, but a friend said it's a common report from the children she has worked with, it's like anxiety and anticipation? This happened often enough during my childhood, especially my teens, due to the abuse of my alcoholic father, the sensation would be trigged by the stress and I wouldn't be able to eat. I wonder if it actually is something being pumped, or whether i'm dumping the contents of my stomach into my blood stream? I mention it mainly because I haven't concluded what it actually is, but also because it has informed my 'supp plan' ie. Enzymes, L-gluatmine

I am familiar with supplementation, and the vitamins I choked on as a child were probably the only real nutrition I was getting! I particularly enjoy experimenting in this area, especially where results are tangible.

So about a week has passed since starting and I welcome any advice or guidance, though if anything , at least my attempt is noted here for others.

As i'm currently looking for work, my finances are limited, but my stress levels are – in some ways - as low as they can go. So I'm thinking this is an optimal time to repair my gut, my frazzled nerves and to prepare.

Nutrition (i eat backwards, heavy at night and light in the day, used to skip breakfast, i'm trying to change this..)
Breakfast: 1 x slice of Buckwheat toast ( with an inch of butter, ground sea salt and a few seeds (I need to leave off of the seeds but is small and provides nice crunch!) + Espresso with butter, 1 tsp of Xylitol + 1 tsp of sugar (i'm running out of xylitol...so have to ½ & ½)

Lunch: Few bits of chicken with olive oil/butter. Handful of cashews/nuts (I don't yet soak them)

Snacks: Infrequent but if I do, i've been trying the advice, from butter wrapped in ham to nuts

Dinner: For about 6 months I have been having bone broth with about 75-100g butter most weeks, say 3-4 times a week. Usually beef bones from the butchers and left over chicken bones, added to this 1-2 root vegetables, seasoning and a chicken leg or some pulled pork. The meat is not pastured of organic... is called 'higher welfare' (LIES!).

Dessert: chocolate of any kind, recently 75% dark (with sugar...) / but more recently homemade choc pot with butter with xylitol and cocoa BUT prior was store bought with all the nasties that entails.

Exercises:
Daily 1 hour stretching: with 3 stage breathing when possible.
EE – due to the whiplash I have been practising the 3 stage breathing and POTS daily, however I haven't 'gone the whole hog' since January as the physical effects of the oxygenation – due to the whiplash were too intense (as noted on the EE discussion). I am recovering and so am beginning to feel the need to get back into it as a regular practise.
Spinning: At least 4 times a week, sometimes x 33, sometimes x 99 spins =D

Supplements simplified:

AM - 8 billion bacteria

Breakfast: Cod liver oil x 2, 1 x B-100, 1 x C-1000 with bio flavanoids, 1 x magnesium citrate 200mg

After: L-Glutamine

Lunch: 1 x Enzyme, 1 x Mag

Bed: 1 x 3 mg Melatonin, 1 x 5 mg TR Melatonin, 1 x 750mg GABA, 1-2 200mg Magnesium Citrate

Detailed:

What Per Day Time Nutrient Qty RDA
Cod liver oil 2 – 3 WITH FOOD
(Carlson)
Vitamin A 2000 IU 40%
Vitamin D 400 IU 100%
Vitamin E 10 IU 33%
(EPA) (80mg) -
(DHA) (100mg) -

B-100 1 WITH FOOD
(now foods)
Thiamin (B-1) 100mg 6667%
Riboflavin (B- 2) 100mg 5882%
Niacin (B-3) 100mg 500%
Vitamin B-6 (pyroxidine) 100mg 5000%
Folate 400mcg 100%
Vitamin B-12 100mcg 1667%
Biotin 100mcg 33%
Pantothenic Acid 100mg 1000%
Choline 30mg --
Inositol 100mg --
PABA 10mg --

Super Enzymes 1 WITH FOOD
(now Foods)
Betain 200mg *
Pancreatin 4X 200mg *
(Amylase) (20,000 USP)
(Protease (20,000 USP)
(Lipase) (3,400 USP)
Ox Bile Extract 10mg *
Bromelain 50mg *
Papain 50mg *
Pepsin 50mg *
Papaya Powder 45mg *
Pineapple 45mg *
Cellulase 10 IU *

Magnesium Citrate 4 WITH FOOD 800mg (total taken)
BEDTIME
Magensium Citrate 200mg

8 Billion Acidophilus & Bifidus 1 – 2 NO FOOD
(now Foods)
Keep refrigerated!
Lactobacillus acidophilus 4.0 Bil 50%
Bifidobacterium Lactis 3.2 Bil 40%
Bifidobacterium Longum 0.8 bil 10%

C-100 with Bioflavanoids 1 – 2 WITH FOOD
(now Foods) Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) 1g 1670%
Citrus Bioflavanoid Complex 100mg --
Rutin Powder 25mg --

GABA 1 BEDTIME GABA 750mg *
(now Foods)

L-Glutamine 2 NO FOOD L- Glutamine (free form) 3g *
(now Foods)

Potassium Tartrate (as Cream of Tartar): 1/4 teaspoon mixed with lemon & lime juice water
- is this an effective way to get potassium?? i found this 'Adrenal cocktail' which advises CoT plus Sea Salt and some vit c, so i've adapted that.

I replaced the 5-HTP i was taking for the GABA but i think since i haven't noticed much, not even the 'shortness of breath or tingly sensation' from the GABA, where I remember taking a double dose of 5-HTP and i felt a slight tightness in my chin (aka: gurning) but then i ran out and so haven't had chance to check which i prefer, though i suspect i will go back to 5-HTP as i feel like my seratonin is probably off...

Of note: I take the L-glutamine after my vitamin C as i read you must activate it with Vit C, is this correct?

Magnesium is because we all need it, and i'm playing between 600mg & 800mg - whatever i can handle :P - also i find it REALLY helpful for my whiplash and helping me settle to sleep. I'll post in the Mag Miracle my experience. Any tips on when to take to avoid an unsettled tummy would be great.

I'll leave it at that, and i hope the above isn't too long or unnecessary,do let me know.


Finally, BIG thank you to Gaby, whose relentless advice to others has been invaluable to me (though don't hold her accountable for the above!).
 
Hello itellsya!

Hope you'll benefit from the changes, the important thing is that you are making progress and doing your best. Don't hesitate to network about what you are going through and if you haven't had the chance to read "When the Body Says No", at least check out this video: http://www.sott.net/article/277046-When-the-Body-Says-No-Caring-for-ourselves-while-caring-for-others-Dr-Gabor-Mate

:flowers:

Diet wise, there are a couple of red alerts that stand out for me...

itellsya said:
Having trawled the numerous discussions from neurotransmitters to going keto, I put together a shopping list and invested the last of my pennies in a supplement plan. Over all it should last about 3 months and though for now I have limited finances, I hope to be able to assess what is working and where to next..

Issues: whiplash around my back and chest (resulting in shallow breathing and daily aches and pains from the knots). Anxiety and stress, general but informed by child hood trauma. Debilitating insomnia related to the aforementioned but aggravated by an unhealthy party lifestyle in my 20's. The only other issue I would mention, though there are others, is this sensation I have had in my stomach/bottom of rib cage/solar plexus (?); it happens when I anticipate a stressful issue, and feels like a 'trickling' sensation, lasts seconds and i can preempt and stop it sometimes, as if the cortisol is being dripped into my stomach. So it's like butterflies, but a friend said it's a common report from the children she has worked with, it's like anxiety and anticipation? This happened often enough during my childhood, especially my teens, due to the abuse of my alcoholic father, the sensation would be trigged by the stress and I wouldn't be able to eat. I wonder if it actually is something being pumped, or whether i'm dumping the contents of my stomach into my blood stream? I mention it mainly because I haven't concluded what it actually is, but also because it has informed my 'supp plan' ie. Enzymes, L-gluatmine

I am familiar with supplementation, and the vitamins I choked on as a child were probably the only real nutrition I was getting! I particularly enjoy experimenting in this area, especially where results are tangible.

If you have the L-glutamine in powder, you can put some underneath your tongue when you feel anxiety. Likewise when you crave sugar. The ketogenic diet will help enormously to stabilize your brain chemistry. The supplements are a plus, but focus on improving your diet so that it will help you heal is the best way to go.

So about a week has passed since starting and I welcome any advice or guidance, though if anything , at least my attempt is noted here for others.

As i'm currently looking for work, my finances are limited, but my stress levels are – in some ways - as low as they can go. So I'm thinking this is an optimal time to repair my gut, my frazzled nerves and to prepare.

Nutrition (i eat backwards, heavy at night and light in the day, used to skip breakfast, i'm trying to change this..)
Breakfast: 1 x slice of Buckwheat toast ( with an inch of butter, ground sea salt and a few seeds (I need to leave off of the seeds but is small and provides nice crunch!) + Espresso with butter, 1 tsp of Xylitol + 1 tsp of sugar (i'm running out of xylitol...so have to ½ & ½)

This is basically sugar and perhaps a little bit of fat. Then, the espresso further stimulates your adrenals and you are likely to start the day in a frazzled way.

When you are first addressing the diet, it is best to start BIG: bacon, sausage and egg yolks if you are unsure about tolerating eggs. People who are intolerant to eggs often react to the egg whites. The coffee is not a good idea, really. Black tea with xylitol would be better.

The buckwheat can trigger an immune response if you are gluten intolerant as it cross-reacts very often with gluten. Seeds are full of lectins.

I think you are instinctively starting the day like this to "extract the juice" of your adrenals. It is really not a good breakfast nor friendly for your nerves. The only good thing you are having is the butter. This is really a bad breakfast to start the day!

After some time on a diet, with a good fatty breakfast, you can experiment with intermittent fasting. But at this stage, I think it is a priority to remove the "starting the day with sugar".

Lunch: Few bits of chicken with olive oil/butter. Handful of cashews/nuts (I don't yet soak them)

If it is not organic chicken, it would probably be best to stick to other meats: pork, veal, etc. Nuts and cashews are infamous for triggering articulation problems. You really have to spend some time off from them to notice the difference. You could have some green beans with fat or butter to go with your meat here.

Snacks: Infrequent but if I do, i've been trying the advice, from butter wrapped in ham to nuts

Dinner: For about 6 months I have been having bone broth with about 75-100g butter most weeks, say 3-4 times a week. Usually beef bones from the butchers and left over chicken bones, added to this 1-2 root vegetables, seasoning and a chicken leg or some pulled pork. The meat is not pastured of organic... is called 'higher welfare' (LIES!).

Dessert: chocolate of any kind, recently 75% dark (with sugar...) / but more recently homemade choc pot with butter with xylitol and cocoa BUT prior was store bought with all the nasties that entails.

How about giving the "fat bomb" a try: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,34453.0.html. It would take care of most cravings and you could probably come off easily from nuts.

Of note: I take the L-glutamine after my vitamin C as i read you must activate it with Vit C, is this correct?

Magnesium is because we all need it, and i'm playing between 600mg & 800mg - whatever i can handle :P - also i find it REALLY helpful for my whiplash and helping me settle to sleep. I'll post in the Mag Miracle my experience. Any tips on when to take to avoid an unsettled tummy would be great.

The magnesium has an alkaline effect on the tummy, so when you take it, take it away from foods. Like one hour before eating or two hours afterwards. Or before going to sleep. You'll need all the stomach acid to digest meat and fat. For the same reasons of aiding digestion, try to not drink a lot during meal times. Also, if your tummy doesn't tolerate big doses of magnesium at a time, divide them throughout the day.

Take the enzymes with the biggest meals and perhaps you can add some apple cider vinegar to further help with digestion.

I think it will be a good idea to test for iron overload in your next check-up: transferrin, iron, ferritin, TIBC. If it comes okay, then you know you can up your dose of vitamin c and that will help with inflammation.

The L-glutamine you can take regardless of vitamin C. Perhaps there is a theory background as to why people suggest it with vitamin C, but in practice, it works by itself.

There are lots of experiments with "brain chemistry" supplements. What you got looks good to me. I would only focus more on improving the diet to finally remove everything that has a bad reputation of being inflammatory. You are nearly there! :) I think the fat bomb from the recipe section will make a lot of difference, mood wise, diet wise and energy wise. When you get enough fat (that is super yummy!), it will make it much easier for you to remove the sugar (i.e. buckwheat) you are eating.

The "fat bomb" recipe has evolved, make sure to check the last few pages for the changes. Guar gum is an evil ingredient contained in some coconut creams, so you can either get some without it, or make your own coconut milk to experiment with. Or if you want to make sure, just use the modified recipe with lard.

I haven't heard of anyone using cream of tartar, although it seems it is a good source for potassium in the ketogenic diet: _http://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/pab9s/remember_to_keep_an_eye_on_your_potassium_levels/

Another good thing to keep in store, finances permitting, is DMSO cream. It really has a soothing effect and it helps with pain and inflammation :) Have you tried medical taping? It is also extremely helpful: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,17544.msg157927.html#msg157927

Once you adjust your diet, you'll likely have a better idea which supplements are worth keeping and which ones can go. As it is, it looks good for me ;)

Hope this helps :flowers:
 
Ahh Gaby! I was delighted to read your reply yesterday :clap:

I have the L-gluatmine tablets, but they are pure so I will just bash one in my new pessel and mortar and see how it works.

I have been following the Gabor Mate thread and i'm familiar with his work (via youtube but will get his book when I can). I posted the link to the - now removed- 3 hour video but hadn't gotten round to watching it! I did however download it and watched it today.

Gabor mentions the kidneys and how they release cortisol and adrenaline, so I went to google images to see their location in the body is exactly where I experienced the 'dripping' sensation! I expect EE will assist here. As will the recommended reading i'm going through: Martha Stout and Trauma, the Narcissistic Family, and i'll look into ways to support the kidneys just incase.

The 'fat bomb' thread I have also been gleefully following, – I told you I love experimenting – but I thought I wouldn't be to afford to participate at the time. That said, the updated recipe is much more accessible:

Laura
“Chu made an experimental batch of our fat bomb with just water, lard, butter, egg yolks, a little xylitol and cocoa”

An informed assessment is probably what I sorely needed. Even if I had just perfected my buckwheat bread recipe!! I think i've been comparing my 'success' with the diet, to those around me who eat 'normally' where I should really be using you pioneers as my focus. I am so so glad you all trialled the 'ultra simple diet' without me, it didn't sound as appealing :P

I do deep fry in lard, cook all vegetables in a block of butter, eat fermented vegetables, only really eat blueberries if I do eat fruit; but I have my weaknesses which you so easily spotted and my routine is still ass backwards (as they say). I will devise a gradual move and i'm toying with the idea – suggested in the thread – of a 'coffee flavoured fatty phat bomb', I think the flavours will work well and i've found coffee has less of an effect when laced in fat. And I obviously have issues with giving it up. :cry:
“ I think you are instinctively starting the day like this to "extract the juice" of your adrenals. It is really not a good breakfast nor friendly for your nerves. The only good thing you are having is the butter. This is really a bad breakfast to start the day!"

And I think you are right, at times i have felt dehydrated/depleted afterwards.

I'll start with the bomb. move the suggested breakfast to Lunch, and eventually my body should shift to hunger to the morning, a lifetimes habit to break! Once i've reshuffled my main meal to breakfast and my metabolism/psychology adjusts,as you say, the rest should follow

I've listened to a lot of the Keto presentations, the Sott blogtalks and particularly enjoyed the work of Nora Gedgaudas who treated her imbalances through diet. I do see that diet will do so much more where neurotransmitters and the like won't. So whilst i'm kinda derailing the thread, the money i have should be going to the best foods and the supplements are secondary. I was obviously too focused on sampling the supplements... :wow:

“The magnesium has an alkaline effect on the tummy”

This is gold, and you've saved me weeks of 'fun' experimenting with said tummy =D

“I think it will be a good idea to test for iron overload in your next check-up: transferrin, iron, ferritin, TIBC. If it comes okay, then you know you can up your dose of vitamin c and that will help with inflammation. “

Again, this is great and gives me something tangible to work with. I will bear this in mind and report back to the appropriate thread.
“Guar gum is an evil ingredient”

And it is present in my preferred – the cheapest - coconut cream... you've saved me a few hours of research.
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The adrenal cocktail I mentioned I got from here:
_http://gotmag.org/the-adrenal-cocktail/

Outlined below is a mineral mixture that one of our colleague’s, Susan Blackard, NP, ND, PhD, has developed for her clients at the Rejuvenation Health Center (Springfield, MO) to take to nourish their adrenals when in need of a lift. This protocol was originally developed by Larry Wilson, MD, a noted expert in adrenal fatigue syndrome.

(for anyone interested)
–-------------------------
“Another good thing to keep in store, finances permitting, is DMSO cream. It really has a soothing effect and it helps with pain and inflammation :) Have you tried medical taping? It is also extremely helpful: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,17544.msg157927.html#msg157927”
I did read through the taping thread and I think it would be beneficial, if a little fiddly, and the DMSO thread I had followed but I thought it's benefits were undecided, I know the c's mentioned it. I did take MSM powder for a while which made me feel a little funny, but I think a little better; but i've run out now so I will definitely get some DMSO next.

“Hope this helps :flowers:

It lifted my spirit and has given me alot to work with. Hopefully my experience will be of use to others in the same way you're help to them helped me. Either way, i have taken your words of wisdom :guru: on board and will make the necessary changes.

I really appreciate the reply, thank you Gaby :flowers:
 
I take omega-3, choline and artichoke extract every day, melatonin every night,
sometimes I take magnesium, vitamin D, selenium and zinc.
 
I've just put in an order for a new batch that should hopefully last me until November/December.... God Jesus Christ... health comes at a price... :-[ but I figure, if you'll spend money, might as well invest it in good health...

L Glutamine (by far the best supplement I have EVER taken!)
L Carnitine
Probiotics
CO Q10
MG Citrate
Krill Oil
Vit D
Vit A
Wormwood
Turmeric

Still have

Vit K
B-Complex Vitamins
Melatonin (haven't taken in months - no need)


Decided not to get Alpha Lipoic Acid this time round...
 
Yeah, you probably don't need Melatonin yet, Luke. In your twenties your body produces a lot of it, but less and less as you get older.
 
Yes, I have to see the issue of health as an investment, because for me it is also very expensive, only a note with the L-glutamine to me dizziness causes, another aspect to consider is the effect it can have on viruses, bacteria, because they can use glutamate as food, this was mentioned by RedFox and Gaby in the thread of Autoimmune Diseases Caused by AN INFECTION?
 
riclapaz said:
Yes, I have to see the issue of health as an investment, because for me it is also very expensive, only a note with the L-glutamine to me dizziness causes, another aspect to consider is the effect it can have on viruses, bacteria, because they can use glutamate as food, this was mentioned by RedFox and Gaby in the thread of Autoimmune Diseases Caused by AN INFECTION?

I thought it was l-arginine not l-glutamine? Added: Just seen it. God forsaken critters!!! LOL! Oh well, for me L Glutamine definitely helps my body so I'll stick to it for now.

You get dizzy from using L-Glutamine? I haven't read this as a side effect before... I've used it for some time now and why I like it so much is that it helps my body repair itself, it's also a huge energy boost that becomes self-evident when you do strenuous physical activities. If it makes you dizzy, don't use it!

Mr. Premise said:
Yeah, you probably don't need Melatonin yet, Luke. In your twenties your body produces a lot of it, but less and less as you get older.

I think you are right... Based on my usage of it thus far, I don't think I need to use it regularly, maybe one every now and again.
 
luke wilson said:
You get dizzy from using L-Glutamine? I haven't read this as a side effect before...

If I had a reaction as a kind of dizziness (vertigo), when I was taking L-glutamine, and there is a bit of information here on because some people do not recommend this supplement or failing in very small quantities:

https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=357386;topic=22916.3615;last_msg=566032
"Life Without Bread"


MB said:
Another thing I have just phased out, though, is L-glutamine. I have been taking it for a long time and probably don't need it any longer. But apparently there are concerns that it might be bad for some people. I encountered this in this podcast:

_http://chriskresser.com/the-afternoon-sugar-crash-green-smoothies-and-liver-detoxification

Steve Wright: ...I think I’ve heard from other people in our natural health world that if you’re having, like, a really bad sugar craving and you’re kinda searching your cabinet for something to do, that you can take, like, 10 grams of l-glutamine and it will help you subside the craving. And I’ve tried it, and I’ve seen a little success, and I was just curious if you had ever heard of that or if you ever recommend that.

Chris Kresser: Yeah, I’ve heard of it. L-glutamine I have mixed feelings about. Certainly it has some therapeutic effects and it can be beneficial, but for some people it seems to really trigger kind of a state of agitation or anxiety, and there’s some controversy about whether glutamine can end up as glutamate, which is the major excitatory neurotransmitter in the brain, and I just see that some patients have a bad reaction to it, so I would be a little bit cautious with it. But another option along the same lines is coconut oil. A lot of people, if they’re feeling that kind of sugar craving and they have, like, a teaspoon or a tablespoon or whatever of coconut oil just straight in the mouth, that will take care of it because coconut oil does not require bile acids for digestion because it’s primarily medium-chain triglyceride, so it gets absorbed very quickly and easily, and it’s a very accessible form of energy, and that’s usually what sugar cravings are about.

So you might possibly want to test for glutamine sensitivity. I did that myself when I started taking it, but if I had had the above information then I might have done it more carefully. Now I wonder if eggs could have been preventing problems with glutamine, although that would be a long shot.

I had a mild but persistent carb craving a few days ago, something that has been common for some reason since I stopped eating eggs several weeks ago, and in frustration I made myself a concoction of all-organic cocoa powder, coconut milk, and coconut oil, with a few drops of stevia for sweetener. It contained 7 grams of carbs, but it was delicious and it worked! No more carb cravings since. I never noticed a blood sugar rise (I'm sure there was some) and there was no subsequent crash. But I don't plan to repeat it too often.
 
riclapaz said:
luke wilson said:
You get dizzy from using L-Glutamine? I haven't read this as a side effect before...

If I had a reaction as a kind of dizziness (vertigo), when I was taking L-glutamine, and there is a bit of information here on because some people do not recommend this supplement or failing in very small quantities:

https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=357386;topic=22916.3615;last_msg=566032
"Life Without Bread"

This article would also help to clarify:

Is Glutamine Supplementation Helpful or Harmful?
_http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2004/05/01/glutamine.aspx

Those with a history of the following conditions should avoid glutamine, even for short-term use:

Stroke
Neurodegenerative disease
Pregnancy
Malignancy
Recent vaccinations
ADHD
Hypoglycemia
Autism
Multiple sclerosis
Other neurological disorders

Glutamine is also a preferred fuel for cancer cells:

Ketogenic Diet in Combination with Calorie Restriction and Hyperbaric Treatment Offer New Hope in Quest for Non-Toxic Cancer Treatment
_http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/30/dagostino-cancer-research.aspx

Although it is recommended in some gut healing protocols, I would be careful if you are dealing with the conditions quoted above.
 
I don't really take much, though I think of and would like to take a good multi vitamin, a B complex, and digestive enzyme.

About all I intake:

Is 2, 00 sized cap. of black cumin seeds and Bio plasma cell salts once daily.

Two to three times a week I have a dose of liquid minerals to my lemon/lime water.

Once if not twice a week I do a dose of iodine in lemon water.

I've had to back off on the Lip. Vit. C because even at a teaspoon once in the am every other day, had my body saying this is too much, so now I only do it twice a week once in the am.

Apple cider vinegar about two teaspoons everyday usually in the am but sometimes after a bite of supper.

I have to say that to keep myself above 90lbs on a strict clean sourced Keto diet, I seem to have to eat more veggies- usually cabbage, green beans, carrots or celery. Beets and turnips are a new addition as I've read they help with Biofilm breakup/dissolving.

And fruit - usually dried figs, I've read they have anti parasitic properties; on occasion some raspberries and mango, mango's naturally help the body produce melatonin. I try to choose the ones lowest in carbs but I'm not too strict because I've noticed if I consume too much fat my weight drops below 90lbs. (I'm 5 feet 2in tall to give a visual)

I handle coconut oil much better than I did before. I make a version of shortbread using all organic; butter, coconut flour, arrowroot, a speck of vanilla and small amount of xylitol. Each time I make it the amount of xylitol is lessened I don't feel the need for sweetening it too much. I also occasionally make a brownie using butter, cacao powder, speck of vanilla, a few eggs and a dash of xylitol.

I do make my own herbal teas, lately I've been making up a brew that I have in the am and then pm after dinner followed by a drinking green and black tea for breaking up dissolving Biofilm /parasite, cleaning blood & strengthening organ detox function. I do not add any kind of sweeteners to my teas. I have felt as if my muscles and joints have had a good workout, a bit more tired than normal, could feel like my body was detoxing but as time has gone by I feel less of this more energized, a lightness yet stronger.
I'm always drinking green, black or some other hot herb tea. Only preparing once in a great while meaning once a month if that but more often once in three/four months do I drink coffee and I have yet to finish a 4oz cup; to it I'll add coconut oil, spices, and sometimes I'll add a dash of Organic hemp milk.

Yep, still smoking organic tobacco. :cool2:
 
Gaby said:
riclapaz said:
luke wilson said:
You get dizzy from using L-Glutamine? I haven't read this as a side effect before...

If I had a reaction as a kind of dizziness (vertigo), when I was taking L-glutamine, and there is a bit of information here on because some people do not recommend this supplement or failing in very small quantities:

https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=357386;topic=22916.3615;last_msg=566032
"Life Without Bread"

This article would also help to clarify:

Is Glutamine Supplementation Helpful or Harmful?
_http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2004/05/01/glutamine.aspx

Those with a history of the following conditions should avoid glutamine, even for short-term use:

Stroke
Neurodegenerative disease
Pregnancy
Malignancy
Recent vaccinations
ADHD
Hypoglycemia
Autism
Multiple sclerosis
Other neurological disorders

Glutamine is also a preferred fuel for cancer cells:

Ketogenic Diet in Combination with Calorie Restriction and Hyperbaric Treatment Offer New Hope in Quest for Non-Toxic Cancer Treatment
_http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/30/dagostino-cancer-research.aspx

Although it is recommended in some gut healing protocols, I would be careful if you are dealing with the conditions quoted above.

Thanks for the article. All new information!

I only supplement before/after exercise with L-glutamine, to provide muscle fuel.

Looks like it's something to use moderately... Maria Emmerich in Keto-adaptation raved about l-glutamine, she sure didn't talk about this other side..
 
I would like to correct a spelling mistake I made in my post of cocoa to what I meant to say I use cacao powder. :-[
 
Quick question. I got my batch of vitamin a (retinaol acetate) and looks like I got one on the higher end of the spectrum - 25000iu. Apparently you can take to much of this stuff (which is bad) and having to little (bad also) so need to strike a balance. However, now that I have the supplements and don't want to throw them away, if I were to take lets say 2 a week, spaced out... is that ok? or maybe I should do 1 a week?

_http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=106

Here are some numbers to provide you with a concrete example. When chronic vitamin A toxicity occurs, it typically involves many months of daily intake of vitamin A in retinoid form in amounts exceeding 14,000 IU (4,200 mcg RE) in children and 25,000 IU (7,500 mcg RE) in adults. Let's compare that amount to the largest amounts found in food. At 135 mcg RE of retinol per cup, cow's milk is the animal food on our WHFoods list that ranks highest in retinol content. As you can see, an adult would have to consume over 55 times this amount every day over a period of several months in order to reach the toxicity level described above.

While vitamin A toxicity can be a problem for our health, it comes from improper use of retinoid-containing supplements, not from our diet. Most causes of vitamin A toxicity are due to accidental ingestion of supplemental doses exceeding 660,000 IU (200,000 mcg retinol equivalents) and 330,000 IU (100,000 mcg retinol equivalents) by adults and children, respectively.

I think 1 a week would be more than safe but the supplements would literally last years...
 

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