What's happening in Serbia

Vutchich: USA will buy North Stream by the end of 2025. In new interview in Handelsblatt.
Buy from whom and for what purposes?
Nord Stream is said to be owned by 5 companies (Wiki) and it takes Russian gas to Germany, so don't understand what's the deal here.

He also said that "Serbia will be a column of Germany's automobile industry. And will export its lithium only to Germany".
If remember right, recently it was reported that there is basically no more automobile industry in Germany, in a sense of factories, that all has been moved to the US. In that sense, yeah, a German factory in Serbia would be a pillar of German industry.
By the way, how was that situation with Fiat factories in Serbia resolved?
 
Buy from whom and for what purposes?
Nord Stream is said to be owned by 5 companies (Wiki) and it takes Russian gas to Germany, so don't understand what's the deal here.


If remember right, recently it was reported that there is basically no more automobile industry in Germany, in a sense of factories, that all has been moved to the US. In that sense, yeah, a German factory in Serbia would be a pillar of German industry.
By the way, how was that situation with Fiat factories in Serbia resolved?
I think that no one, except Vutchich knows how anyone can buy North Stream. Thats why he's Vutchich and we are not :D

But, goes nicely with "sanctions on NIS", while its legally not posible.

If you "missed the gist" Germany will make only electric cars, and Serbia will help it by export lithium from non existing mine ONLY to Germany. And thus "save Germany's auto industry".


For Zastava - Fiat, I only know that there should start making electric cars by the 2023 - 24. They still don't. So, the same story as any other from Vutchich and his criminal government. The workers were offered severance or to go to work in Slovakia.
 
iamthatis said:Trump plans to balkanize America?! Says who?
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I should have written "balkanization", in quotes.

Among his intentions when he assumes power is to return the Panama Canal to the USA.
which now belongs to Panama.Also the intentions he has for Mexico.

See references to this in recent tweets: by Trump, news from journalists in Mexico City, twitters of the presidents of Colombia, the president of Panama, the party opposed to Trump, etc. etc.

Mr,Trump AND THE SUPREME WISHFUL THINKING.

Just a day ago: Trump names his residence at Mar-a-Lago as the Center of the Universe.

@realDonaldTrumpWhere are you? When are you coming to the “Center of the Universe,” Mar-a-Lago. Bill Gates asked to eat, tonight. We miss you and x! New Year's Eve is going to be AMAZING!!! DJT

It seems very strange to me not to be aware of this news.

By the way, regarding US politics, I have no preference for any of its parties. I don't play that game.
We already have enough problems in Mexico with the PRIANMC parties, losing parties but unbearably desperate and conflictive,
 
Haaretz: Serbia buys weapons from Israel for 335 million dollars

Serbia will purchase advanced artillery systems and unmanned aerial vehicles from the Israeli company Elbit Systems in a major deal worth $335 million, writes the Israeli Haaretz.

Serbia is at the height of an arms race with its Balkan neighbor Croatia – which belongs to both NATO and the European Union – and Serbian President Aleksandar Vučić has boasted that the new systems are even better than the American-made systems that Croatia has purchased, writes Haaretz .

New acquisitions will enable Serbia to respond to any challenge, Vučić added, including those "who think they have an advantage over us."

In a press statement in late November, Elbit announced a deal with an unnamed "European country."

But Vučić revealed the next day which country it was in his address to the nation.

The purchase came amid a thaw in Israeli -Serbian ties that included mutual arms sales .

Elbit said in a statement that it had been awarded a $335 million contract to provide PULS artillery rockets and launchers, as well as Hermes 900 drones, with delivery over the next three and a half years.

The PULS is a multiple rocket launcher developed by Israel Military Industries, a subsidiary of Elbit. It can launch many different types of missiles, including Grads and LAR, and has a range of up to 300 kilometers. The Hermes 900 is an advanced surveillance/attack drone that can carry heavy payloads for extended periods of time. It has been sold in the past to India, Thailand, Azerbaijan, and other countries.

Although Elbit did not reveal the name of the buyer's country, Vučić's speech the next day gave plenty of hints, the Israeli media outlet writes.

The media in both Serbia and Croatia closely followed the arms race, and therefore reported extensively on the Elbit Agreement.

"I would like to inform you that after persistent negotiations, we have signed a contract to purchase the most powerful artillery systems in the world. We have also purchased some of the most sophisticated drones in the world," Haaretz reports.

He continued:

"This is the most sophisticated weapon in the world, with direct communication from the command center through drones to missiles, which instantly launch and destroy everything. It is undoubtedly more powerful than HIMARS. Now you understand what we are buying."

HIMARS is an advanced American artillery system that has been sold to many other countries, including Ukraine, which is using it to fight Russian forces. The system was recently sold to Croatia.

Vučić's words were widely reported by the leading Serbian aviation magazine Tango Six, as well as other Balkan media. Unlike Croatia, Serbia is not a member of NATO or the EU.

Elbit and the Defense Ministry declined to answer Haaretz's questions about whether Serbia provided any guarantees as part of the agreement, or whether the agreement included any usage restrictions that would ensure that Serbia would not use Israeli weapons against a NATO member.

"Generally, Elbit Systems sells defense solutions abroad in accordance with specific licenses issued by the Ministry of Defense for each product and capability. In other words, not every product or known capability is sold abroad. Elbit Systems does not provide specific information about the content of any specific deal with a customer, but we emphasize that the company takes care to act in accordance with its licenses," the company said.

The sale of weapons from Serbia to Israel jumped

Over the past year, Israel and Serbia have developed closer ties. President Isaac Herzog visited Belgrade a few months ago, and Haaretz previously reported that since the start of the war in the Gaza Strip and Lebanon, the number of arms shipments from Serbia to Israel has jumped by thousands of percent.

Haaretz reported last week that Serbia's internal security service hacked the phones of Serbian journalists and social activists, using a tool purchased from the Israeli company Cellebrite.

It is no coincidence that Vučić said that the systems Serbia had just purchased were superior to those of its rivals. Not long before that, Washington approved the sale of HIMARS to Croatia.

In his speech, Vučić also mentioned a huge deal with France, worth around a billion euros, for the procurement of helicopters and 12 new Rafale fighter jets.

Vučić then sent a warning to Croatia - and indirectly to the EU and NATO, which refused to include Serbia in their ranks.

"This acquisition will allow us to respond to any challenge and to all those who thought they had an advantage over us," he said.

His statements, along with the deal with Elbit, have raised concerns in Croatia, which, in addition to new artillery systems, recently purchased 12 second-hand Rafale fighter jets.

The chance that these two countries, which fought a bloody war with each other approximately 30 years ago, will again find themselves in a military conflict is extremely small, writes the Israeli media.

However, Croatian analysts point out that lately there has been a lot of tension between them.

A political source in Zagreb, the Croatian capital, said he wondered why Israel was arming Serbia rather than trying to promote defense ties with his country.

One possible explanation is that Croatia preferred to buy American and European weapons. A few years ago, the Israeli aviation industry tried to sell used F-16 fighter jets to the Croatian Air Force, but the sale was not approved by the United States, which manufactures the aircraft.

Israel had extensive defense ties with Croatia up until then. This included deals worth hundreds of millions of dollars with Elbit and IAI to upgrade old Soviet tanks and aircraft, as well as Croatia's purchase of Rafale Spike anti-tank missiles.

 
Vučić: US imposes sanctions on NIS; We will have 60 days to complete the process

The US will impose sanctions, not general ones, but comprehensive sanctions on our company NIS, Serbian President Aleksandar Vučić said today at a government session.

"These will not be sanctions against companies that have Russian ownership, but direct sanctions on the Serbian oil industry. This puts us in a very difficult position," the president said.

As he adds, after a certain time, not only will there be problems with oil supply, but also with refining, petrochemicals, the essential survival of the economy we have today.

"We have already managed until today, we have been entering through Srbija Gas, trying to preserve everything that can be preserved. I told the undersecretary that we cannot be happy about that decision, but such a decision is coming," he said.

As he says, the question arises as to why they make such a decision now and at this moment.

"They will say that it is directed against the Russians and because they finance part of their war effort with it. The Russians did not finance their war effort with it, but it is possible that they are bothered by the fact that a Russian company made a high profit at least in one year, but this year it is many times lower, and it cannot be high in the years to come."

"Whether this is some kind of external attempt to destabilize the situation in our country - I am not sure and cannot say, but this certainly puts our country in a difficult situation."

He says that he asked how long we would have, that is, how much time.

"What I understood from Mr. Fernandez is that he will give us 30 days to consider all our options and initiate action, and in 60 days we have to complete the entire process. They will officially come out with that decision before January 15th, which means that we have to complete everything by March 15th, and by February 15th we have to know what we are doing."

"We cannot allow ourselves to wait until March 15th without resolving the situation with NIS. We have to imagine the negative consequences for the economy, the budget, we will not even have enough for salaries and pensions in the end, not to mention the fact that we have to find money in the meantime if that happens. We have to resolve this as soon as possible," said Finance Minister Siniša Mali.

The president responded that Fernandez had also blurted out that he expected us to immediately nationalize it, while the West would have accepted that we would take it without compensation.

"I know that many saw this as our opportunity, without asking where the money came from, because they thought it was time to seize something. I believe that none of us should accept the logic of '45. So I think that we should not seize property from the Russians, but rather sit down and talk to the Russians. I think we have a good connection with the new secretary, with whom I can meet in the first 7 or 8 days of his rule. Will he say that there is a 3 or 5 percent chance that something will change - we will see. The last option must be a hostile takeover - the absolute last option. I share the concern, all the reserves we have would create chaos in the market, we must not allow that. Before that, there are countless possibilities that we must consider," the president said.

He adds that this will bring a lot of instability for us.

Addressing Finance Minister Siniša Mali, the president said that even if we go to pay the Russians a price, it will end up directly on their battlefield.

"I don't understand the point of the sanctions, because that money will go directly to them on the battlefield. We are not for looting, we are not pirates. I will talk to President Putin around the time of Saint Sava {27th January}, when I see if the talks with the new American administration have brought anything."

As he says, when it comes to gas - both the Russians and Azerbaijan have been reliable partners for us.

"We consume 13.5 to 14.5 million cubic meters of gas daily, which is a lot of consumption {It is not. Majority of people in Serbia are still not using gas for heating.}. We still have about 430 million cubic meters of gas in reserve, both in our and Hungarian storage facilities. This is important for electricity, the refinery, it is important for everything. We would have even more problems if we did not have storage facilities."

 
We will see. Bajatović is making no comments about NIS. But he confirms that consumption of gas, like I said, is not high.

Bajatović spoke about the suspension of transit of Russian gas through Ukraine to Europe: Will the price of gas change in Serbia?

The director of Srbijagas, Dušan Bajatović, said today that until the end of the heating season, gas prices for households will remain unchanged, stating that Serbia has a stable supply via the Turkish Stream, so supplies are secured.

"We don't have to worry until the end of the heating season, we have more than enough gas." We have prepared well. We have 100 million cubic meters in Hungary, the Banatski dvor is filled.

We withdraw up to 2.5 million from Azerbaijan, and all together we can deliver up to 19 and even 21 million cubic meters of gas per day, and at the peak of winter we do not anticipate more than 17 million," said Bajatović, commenting on the suspension of Russian gas transit through Ukraine.

As he added, "we will not change the price of gas for households, we have enough gas and we don't need to worry", RTS reported on its website.

Speaking about the situation with gas in the world, primarily in Europe, Bajatović explained that the Americans now supply a larger part of the European market.

"Deliveries in Europe are 10 percent less. It is interesting that although there is no withdrawal of Russian gas from the pipeline, deliveries of Russian gas from liquefied natural gas (LNG) have increased significantly. "Americans now occupy a large part of the European market, and gas storages are quickly emptying primarily because of power plants, because green energy is not enough," said Bajatović.

 
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