What's happening in Serbia

Yes, I know what Informer is, but the video looks legit. Time will tell how things will develop in Macedonia.



If that happens, we could build another Yugoslavia. :-)
You and I can make such video in just a couple of minutes. Or in another words, if everything else there is fake, why that video wouldn't be?

Nothing with Yugoslavia there. If Croatia buys NIS, that would mean that the US owns it. Because US owns Croatia. To be more precise, US' hedge fonds, shady companies and essentially organised crime.

There is no circumstances for anything significant to happen in Macedonia. Or any other Ex-Yugoslavia country. I would say that there is more chance for Germany or France, than ex-yu countries, except Serbia.
 
You and I can make such video in just a couple of minutes. Or in another words, if everything else there is fake, why that video wouldn't be?

Because nobody so far said that it isn't? We will see what will happen, if anything, down there.

Nothing with Yugoslavia there. If Croatia buys NIS, that would mean that the US owns it. Because US owns Croatia. To be more precise, US' hedge fonds, shady companies and essentially organised crime.

In that case, Russia should perhaps instead of that sell NIS to Hungary. Hungary is at least still buying Russian oil. And they already own a half of INA.

There is no circumstances for anything significant to happen in Macedonia. Or any other Ex-Yugoslavia country. I would say that there is more chance for Germany or France, than ex-yu countries, except Serbia.

Not so long ago, I would have said that same for Serbia, but things change swiftly when you have powerful elements pushing the events.
 
Yes, I know what Informer is, but the video looks legit. Time will tell how things will develop in Macedonia.
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If that happens, we could build another Yugoslavia. :-)
In a way we already are in another Yugoslavia, just a lot meaner version of it, with EU and NATO, but maybe more importantly with the political globalist anti-human establishment elitist clique that works hand-in-hand in most states across the countries' borders.

When Šešelj, who was apparently Vučić's mentor and boss at the time he was learning the craft of governing, if understood Nenad's previous posts correctly, was still playing his role in public space, almost as a cuckoo clock he would appear with his seemingly radical rhetoric every time when HDZ, which is considered as a right-center party in Croatia, needed sort of a distraction from domestical affairs. Like following a script, if some regulation or a law or a tax or whatever unpopular thing was to be done in Croatia, Šešelj would pop up and "draw" all media attention to the ol' Croats vs. Serbs story that would saturate all public discourse for just enough time for the unpopular thing to be done. And it's still similar today, as I can see, Croatian government's been justifying buying new weapons, planes and helicopters, while sending what they had to Ukraine, as a needed thing because "look at those ill-intended Serbs and what they do, up to no good for sure".
From Nenad's previous posts, it seems to be almost identical in Serbia and with Vučić, he apparently justified spending a lot of public money to buy used Israelis planes because Croatia was buying, also with public money of course, Sikorsky's choppers.

So, in principle and with very rare exceptions, local political elites in Europe play as directed from their handlers and for their own personal gain, and "help" each other when needed in a "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" kinda fashion. Which is especially noticable in Croatian-Serbian relations since the time of sowing divisions and hatred among people by bloody events during early 1990s.

In fact, when looked below the surface, there's a thread of a guy who can be linked to almost every event with huge negative repercussions exploited later by the West in setting things among Yugoslav people as they have been since 1990s and in getting what the West apparently planned since even before Tito died. Mladić came onto stage by commanding military actions on Kosovo in mid 1980s against Albanian Kosovar protesters and miners at that time, in apparently rather cruel and bloody manner, like a proper unscrupulous military guy. Those events might have been the initial attempt in breaking Yugoslavia just about 5 years after Tito's death, and they set up the stage and put the Kosovars in the right state of their minds to be used as a justification for the entry of NATO, or KFOR or whatever they are called today, in Serbia on Kosovo and basically as a main reason to sell to the Western population the bombing of Serbia in 1999, with its start anniversary being these days of the year.

The same Mladić, who's surname ironically translates as a young man, was apparently commanding, among other high officers, the shelling of Dubrovnik that turned the public in the West in favor of recognizing newly established Croatian so called statehood. He was apparently personally in charge of the units when the ex-Yu military purported masacres in Dalmatian villages of Škabrnja and others. He was shown on TV as commander of the military units when the Vukovar situation happened, standing and smiling next to the caravan of poor-looking and wounded people presented as all civilians walking from Slavonia to concentration camps somewhere in Serbia. He was apparently also the commander who was personally responsible for Srebrenica, or at least for what was presented to had happened there.
Didn't look further, but from all that presentation, it seems Mladić was a psycho or cold blooded military commander, identified by the West in his first appearance on Kosovo in mid 1980s, as a perfect let's say patsy to do the planned job of turning people against each other and cementing that in their memory and collective consciousness with a strong seal of all the spilled blood.

End result of the bloody events in ex-Yu, besides sowing division among people to the point of hatred against each others, is that everything that was worthy of anything in those countries has been "expropriated" either for nothing or for a change money, that is plainly it was stolen and/or ruined, under the disguise of different various fancy sounding economic then-invented names and terms to mainly big Western companies.

In relation to Vučić, he was filmed to had been a part, as a political support from Serbia, in meetings in Udbina that riled people up to start so called balvan-revolution in 1990, basically a year before anything serious as perceived from the outsides had even started in ex-Yu, which was apparently used as a kind of pretext of instability in Yugoslavia and for organizing the referendum more than half year later in Croatia, the event that officially got the ball rolling with everything that happened afterwards.
His presence there does not conclusively mean Vučić had his fingers in the events that transpired later, but it shows he is no newby when it comes to being exposed to manipulating tactics that stir the people in desired directions. And a waving scene to basically nobody outside in the train with Orban during the visit in Hungary few years ago, speaks that Vučić knows really well how to play the game of propaganda and present himself and things for the optics to "outsiders".

Apologies for a bit off the main current discussion topic trip down the memory lane.
 
Nothing with Yugoslavia there. If Croatia buys NIS, that would mean that the US owns it. Because US owns Croatia. To be more precise, US' hedge fonds, shady companies and essentially organised crime.
There was a support petition for the protests a while ago doing rounds in public state controlled, more a less, places in Croatia, like among universities' employees. With the apparent attempt deal to transfer NIS to the West via Croatia, it seems there are things going on in the background that might have been using the protests in Serbia as a kind of a burgeoning chip to have Vučić do what's wanted from him. In that regard, it would not be completely ludicrous to assume or even to expect the foreign element involvement in organization of the protests and direction which they take. Regardless of how genuine and devoit of any manipulation they might appear from the inside, that is to most of the protests participants.
FWIW.
 
There was a support petition for the protests a while ago doing rounds in public state controlled, more a less, places in Croatia, like among universities' employees. With the apparent attempt deal to transfer NIS to the West via Croatia, it seems there are things going on in the background that might have been using the protests in Serbia as a kind of a burgeoning chip to have Vučić do what's wanted from him. In that regard, it would not be completely ludicrous to assume or even to expect the foreign element involvement in organization of the protests and direction which they take. Regardless of how genuine and devoit of any manipulation they might appear from the inside, that is to most of the protests participants.
FWIW.
Vutchich "sale" of NIS started after the start of the protest. There is no need to "make" Vutcich to do anything, he already does everything that the West asks. Even more.

Last week Vutchich was in oficial visit to Mark Rutte, the head of the NATO. Needless to say that Serbia is not in NATO, and that president of the republic (which is Vutchic's title) is just protocol function and its not his job to do any negotiations with everyone.

Anyway, immediately there were rumours that Vutchic offered NATO Serbia to step in into NATO, but through the "back doors", by bilateral agreement with some NATO country, and that Serbia will hold big military manoeuvres with NATO. Everything in exchange for NATO's and the West turning blind eye to him to deal rebelion in Serbia by force.

Today, we have the news which said that Vutchich spoke with Hungary's Orban on widening "military cooperation". We are waiting to see about those big military manoeuvres.

I don't think that Seselj or Mladic where any significant players. Only psychopaths or useful idiots that were user by real, smarter players.
 
Because nobody so far said that it isn't? We will see what will happen, if anything, down there.



In that case, Russia should perhaps instead of that sell NIS to Hungary. Hungary is at least still buying Russian oil. And they already own a half of INA.



Not so long ago, I would have said that same for Serbia, but things change swiftly when you have powerful elements pushing the events.
As I did understood it, Russia don't wont to sell NIS to anyone, that's why Gasprom Neft (which is under US sanctions) move part of their shares in NIS to Gasprom (which is not under US sanctions). The same was done already for other Russian companies in the EU, in order that the EU can still buy russian gas. But Vutchic stays relentless in attempt to snatch big money in that....

For Macedonia, I think that there are two major reasons why something like in Serbia cant happen.

First is that Macedonians don't have particular focus point or face to focus their rage on (in Serbia its Vutchich).

Second reason is that they have big number of Devil's little helpers, known as "Albanians", that can be used anytime by the Devil himself (or the US) to do anything in Macedonia. And to thwart down any case of people's rebellion against the government installed by the West. So, if there would be some start of something like in Serbia, we also will see armed rebelion of "Albanians" such was in 2001.

People in Serbia (not just Serbs, but the others too), in cases like this act as one, and slowly reject "government" and its apparatus, as a body would with foreign object (because it really is foreign object) as we witness by day. Macedonians cant do that. Also, nationalism and national myths helps in unification, which Macedonians also cant do.
 
This is fun. This video is shared among members of Vutchich party SNS. It says that those are cars with serbian licence plates in Zagreb, Croatia. And those are cars of the student protesters who gone to Croatia to get their money for their colored revolution. That's the narrative that Vutchich pushes.


But, on the video is Block 38, New Belgrade (part of Belgrade, Serbia) 😄


How do I know that? I live in that four story building on the left 😄😄😄

 
Yes, they are getting desperate, throwing everything that they can come up with. Another example is a "destroyed school" in Leskovac that was already falling apart last year.

BTW, I identified the leading student who was teaching the Macedonians in that video. She seems to have been activist for quite some time. And it is interesting that she says that she is connected to the famous murders from two years ago:

"It's very nice to see people who instill confidence, so I'll start with the Belgrade story of a twenty-year-old who is alone in Belgrade, while her parents live in a small town. The "Vladislav Ribnikar" school is five minutes from my faculty, and I remember that the unexpected turn of events began that Wednesday when I arrived at the faculty from Vranje," Staša addressed the Vranje residents who listened to her in a silence unusual for such gatherings.

Staša Cvetković then continued her Belgrade story.

"There were murders of children in this school, I remember, at that time even the professors didn't want to give lectures. News came one after another about the terrible event, students contacted their parents that everything was fine with them, while I was sitting alone in the reading room, and then my friend who was a student of that school arrived," Staša Cvetković told the crowd, herself moved by the tragic memory.

“I remember her words that were accompanied by tears, ‘they killed our Drakče’, the man who was a guard at that school, so I could only imagine the grief of the parents and families of the guards, but also of all the children at that school who had to go through everything that happened on that tragic Wednesday,” said Staša Cvetković.

“And then two days later the murders happened in Mladenovac and my friend’s friend committed those murders. Everyone says that he was reserved as a person, but that they never expected that to happen. And then the children start imitating those murderers on a mass scale, sensationalist news starts, among other things, that a brother cut his sister with a knife, so I ask if we are the kind of society that wants to see the dismembered body of an eighteen-year-old girl in the square,” asked the student from Vranje.


And since she is from Vranje that would explain why is she communicating with Macedonians.
 
Yes, they are getting desperate, throwing everything that they can come up with. Another example is a "destroyed school" in Leskovac that was already falling apart last year.

BTW, I identified the leading student who was teaching the Macedonians in that video. She seems to have been activist for quite some time. And it is interesting that she says that she is connected to the famous murders from two years ago:



And since she is from Vranje that would explain why is she communicating with Macedonians.
She could be that "colored revolution" part. They love activists type. Not that is of any importance though.
 
Today in Serbia is totally irrelevant which person is on what political function. Everything is run by Vutchich. But, everyone became angry when one of Vutchich henchman announced that the next prime minister probably would be serbian-american businessman Desko Nikitovic.

The man himself is not important, but bringing anyone from the US is consider a another heavy mockery to the people which already think that Serbia is under West's occupation (and thats majority of the nation).


Another mockery came from Trump. He appointed "serbian-american" for the US ambassador in Serbia. The general feeling is: "is he laughing at us? Is he thinking that we are native americans and will trade with pearls and mirrors".


 

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