Retake creation of my reality and become fully responsible for that, myself and my doings.ark said:Now, if you can use your imagination, just try, imagine that you woke up. What would you do then?
I'm not a good teacher either, nevertheless it is one of my goals.Gimpy said:My goal follows along with what Johnno listed. The exception is that I'm not a good teacher. I just work along as best I can, and sometimes people get something out of it, sometimes not. :) I'm a budding writer, and the plan is to find a way to work my Work into that somehow. (does that make sense?) In the process, its Do and Be, Do, Be...Do-Be-Do-Be-Do. :) :)
You cannot wake up, in the esoteric sense, in the 4th density. If you are in the 4th density, by necessity, you must have already woken up.aurora said:ark wrote:
Now, if you can use your imagination, just try, imagine that you woke up. What would you do then?
That if I woke up in the 4th density...
I think there is possibly some confusion about what Ark means by waking up. Does he mean "entering 4th density" or crossing some knowledge/awareness threshold while on 3rd density? I think the latter but could be wrong. And which threshold? There are different "levels" of waking up. Maybe he means developing a fully conscious "I"? I don't think he meant most of the "lower level" waking up like realizing the governments are psychopaths and seeing the pathocracy, or realising that we're a machine etc as most of us already know these things. So I think he probably meant the conscious "I", but I could be wrong.hoangmphung said:You cannot wake up, in the esoteric sense, in the 4th density. If you are in the 4th density, by necessity, you must have already woken up.aurora said:ark wrote:
Now, if you can use your imagination, just try, imagine that you woke up. What would you do then?
That if I woke up in the 4th density...
Gimpy said:My goal follows along with what Johnno listed. The exception is that I'm not a good teacher. I just work along as best I can, and sometimes people get something out of it, sometimes not. :) I'm a budding writer, and the plan is to find a way to work my Work into that somehow. (does that make sense?) In the process, its Do and Be, Do, Be...Do-Be-Do-Be-Do. :) :)
"Assist" doesn't necessarily mean to directly and intentionally teach ;) Sometimes assisting can be lending energy to a particular effort, like participating in this forum, or something as simple as finding a piece of information someone else asked for help in finding, etc.Gurdjieff said:And the fifth: the striving always to assist the most rapid perfecting of other beings, both those similar to oneself and those of other forms, up to the degree of the sacred `Martfotai' that is up to the degree of self-individuality.
To wake people up and to give them what they ask for (become STO really),ark said:So what is you goal in this life?
Its a bit like "The Matrix" really. But that would be assuming that some of us are awake to a certain extent and are starting to see that all is not 'as it seems to be'...anart said:Scream like a little girl at the horror - and then start working to find others who are awake so we could get the heck out of this nightmare! Until we could, I would hopefully try to help others who were stirring in their sleep to awaken as well, if they so chose.ark said:Now, if you can use your imagination, just try, imagine that you woke up. What would you do then?
I'd have to respectfully disagree here Ruth.Ruth said:Its a bit like "The Matrix" really. But that would be assuming that some of us are awake to a certain extent and are starting to see that all is not 'as it seems to be'...
Unplugging from "The Matrix" is not the end goal. The end goal would probably be dismanteling it completely and sending the Lizzies away and telling them 'don't come back'!
Doesn't STO think that you don't want to control others, so by dismantling the lizzies "completely" you would be in fact taking away their free will because you are attempting to control them so they don't control others? Or am I mistaken? Is dismantling just for yourself or the group who can see, in that case it wouldn't really be anything wrong...Ruth said:Unplugging from "The Matrix" is not the end goal. The end goal would probably be dismanteling it completely and sending the Lizzies away and telling them 'don't come back'!