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Currently working as Internet Tech Supporter. And it is quite a challenge with Israeli customers. It's a fertile ground for training the "external consideration and not taking things personally" muscle. But that's not a problem, really, and actually fun and satisfying sometimes, especially after a job well done of turning a potentially explosive situation into a working one.

The work environment itself is also quite noisy with shift managers constantly screaming (have to end the conversation within specific time) and myriad of regulations that have to be followed (wasn't in the army, so that's the Universe compensating ;) ). I joke about it, that it would be great to be a shift manager for a day and be able to release all the anger by screaming my lungs out (though doing it toward other workers doesn't look appealing at all, just the idea of it) . Would be such a release. :D
 
Alana said:
mabar, have you had a chance to read Gurdjieff's book, Meetings with Remarkable Men? It's an autobiography in a way, and in it Gurdjieff discusses all the techniques he used to make money when he had all those people to feed who dependent on him, during the years of the wars in Russia, then in Turkey, Paris and New York. Knowing how to make money to meet your needs and those who depend on you, as well as to be able to contribute monetarily to a worthy cause or help others in need, is not something to feel bad about. It's actually about being a good obyvatel. Here you can read a definition of the term obyvatel. Fwiw...

Hi, …no I had not, Gurdjieff’s books are either almost impossible to get or too expensive in this country, I have one (Tales from Belcebu to his grandson? that I found just by pure luck, an used one), now that I found that amazon is capable of sending books here, I have contradicted feelings about it, in one side I am happy because I will be able to buy books that I won't find them here, but in the other side…I do not earn that much money to get them, so …ones for others.

"Meetings with Remarkable Men?", I think I will put it in the next orther, and will read the definition. It been quite difficult these years, due to many circumstances, I am earning pretty much the same as the employees do, I am in “their shoes” literally, so I can't close my eyes or turn around …is like choices, like when you decide to tell a lie assuming the consequences or responsibilities as well, you just do it, considering that will be in behalf of others, that's how I see it,

Thanks
mabar
 
I was a Process Engineer, Project Engineer, Materials Engineer, Production Manager, Plant Manager, worked as a Sales Rep., taught technical classes, all in the plastic manufacturing industry.

Worked in Real Estate, in steel product manufacturing, a chemical dependency counselor, and currently work as a Corrections Officer at a county Sheriffs Dept.

Its all been fun and rewarding, with all the people I've worked and met.
 
my "working passions" filmmaker, photographer, musician, audio engineer....

What pays the bills.......Media technician and IT support for University....
 
Have been a radiobiologist, an anatomist, a hospital manager and a management consultant.

Serious ill health then intervened, 5 major operations later I'm a part-time practice manager for a physiotherapist ( which I can do mostly from home ) and am back studying. Due to complete a DipMus next Sept. And the Open University BA(Hons) a year later. Have also been accepted to do a PhD on the effects of workplace stress on mental health, but ironically I'm not sure that my own health is up to it yet.

But at least the future has possibilities for me. At one time it looked otherwise.
 
I was a musician for about ten years. Tried to subsidize my performer income with warehouse work for a few more years. Stopped gigging to take a janitor position in a hospital, and finally ended up as a stockist in said hospital, and in two walk-in medical clinics, as well.

I am now writing Work-related music with the intention of getting out and performing it, and possibly recording it for selling CDs off the stage (I want to stick each CD with EE stickers, too). But right now I'm in the writing stage.
 
mocachapeau said:
I am now writing Work-related music with the intention of getting out and performing it, and possibly recording it for selling CDs off the stage (I want to stick each CD with EE stickers, too). But right now I'm in the writing stage.

Hi mocachapeau

What type of music are you writing? Is it vocal, instrumental, how do you approach the composition process etc? I'm very interested in the creative process behind composition, and like to find out what influences composers. I saw a performance of 'In C' at the weekend and was just blown away!




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ec1968 said:
What type of music are you writing? Is it vocal, instrumental, how do you approach the composition process etc? I'm very interested in the creative process behind composition, and like to find out what influences composers. I saw a performance of 'In C' at the weekend and was just blown away!

Hi ec1968,

I don't know if this thread is really the place for this, so the mods can move it to the music board if they like. But I will try and answer your questions as best I can.

I would call it 'songwriting' more than 'composing', although much of what I do is actual written notes on the staff. And it is vocal, although I have thought about writing some instrumental music for my saxophone. I like writing blues tunes - I've played a lot of that - and everything else kind of falls under 'my own style'. Sometimes it has a Latin feel, sometimes folk/rock, sometimes funk, and usually with horns. I am not one to try and categorize anything, and I like to write as many different styles as I can. Or at least, I write it the way I feel it and it very seldom sounds like the one before it. I hope that makes some kind of sense.

I have a computer program called "Finale" that allows me to write notes on the staff. I can have as many staffs as I like and each one can be assigned a different instrument. At any point in the writing I can hit play and it will play back, with the sounds of the chosen instruments, the entire score. So I use that program to write all the parts of the instruments that I don't play, or don't own. At the moment I am trying to stick to the instrumentation that I would have if (when) I get my band back together - drums, bass, guitar, keyboard, saxophone voices, and any instrument that our keyboard player could fake with a good synthesizer.

After that, I transfer the wave files into a mixing program that allows me to record live tracks over top of the "band". In my case those are the guitar, vocals, saxophone and violin. When I have recorded all the tracks I do the mixing - balancing volume levels, adjusting equalizers, adding effects. At that point it's pretty much finished. But since all of this is done on the computer in my bedroom, I would have to go into a real studio with real musicians to make a more quality recording if I were to try and sell CDs.

As far as the creative process is concerned I imagine everyone has their own approach, but I usually go about it in one of two similar ways. Usually I am sitting down with the guitar and playing around with chords in order to come up with a progression that I find interesting, different, pleasant or just plain cool. Sometimes I know it's good because I get goosebumps and all the hairs on my body stand on end, something that often happens when I hear a song that really gets me (At Last by Etta James, for example). When that is the case, I find the rhythm that suits it best and then the melody that goes with it comes very quickly. Then I choose a subject for the lyrics, but I don't write any of them except the chorus. These days, the subject matter is always something inspired by the work, things for which I feel as passionate about as I do for music. And that's a pretty wide field of topics.

Other times it is the subject that comes first. I start thinking of what I want to say and the melody, or chorus, comes as soon as I form one phrase that sounds just right. Then I figure out what the chords are that are already implied by that melody and then go through the above process. And of course, many times throughout the process there are all sorts of changes and adjustments made, usually because I just feel there's something missing or not quite right.

Influences? That's a tough one. I think that the best way to find out what influences me (and maybe others, as well) is by letting someone else listen to my songs. My sister says that the last blues I wrote reminds her of Joe Cocker's Leave Your Hat On. And as it turns out, I love Joe Cocker and that song, and I have performed it many times. But I was certainly never thinking about it when I wrote the song. I believe that any songwriter/composer is influenced, at all times, by anything and everything that has made some kind of impression on them at all stages of their lives. When they sit down to write, they will write what comes to them in the moment, what they feel fits the mood or emotion of what they are working on. And when the piece is done, someone always hears a similarity to something else, and more often than not, the artist of which it reminds them happens to be one that the composer is familiar with.

Interestingly enough, I think that description fits in quite well with Gurdjieff's point that it is all imitation, especially music, poetry, art, etc. Although there are probably exceptions, like Mozart or Beethoven, those who innovate and others try to emulate.

I hope this has been helpful in some way.
 
Helpful?? Mate its been an eyeopener. Thanks for taking the time to explain to me how you do it. I've never met 2 songwriters who use the same approach to their work. I do a bit of arranging for brass band using Sibelius but I've not written anything of my own yet. My arrangements have been quite popular though.

Thanks for spending so much time explaining the detail of how you do what you do. I appreciate it. Cheers, Eúni
 
ec1968 said:
I do a bit of arranging for brass band using Sibelius but I've not written anything of my own yet. My arrangements have been quite popular though.

Hi EC,

I'd be very interested in hearing one (or more) of your brass arrangements. Are you talking about writing horn parts for songs or more like arranging songs for brass ensembles? Either way, if you have anything that you would want to share, maybe post on the Music Board, I'd love to hear it. Horn parts are often an integral part of my songs and I like hearing how others go about it, as well.
 
I'm a programmer at a small company developing a system cleaner type of software.
 
Endymion said:
I was a graphic designer until 1990, then I was a full time carer for family members until early 2008. Now I'm a support worker for older people, which I love. It's not something I would have thought of as an enjoyable job for myself, but it is very rewarding and I look forward to every day. The people I work with are in their 60s, 70s and older.
Hi Endymion,
I really appreciated the people that helped to take care of my grandparents when they were old and sick. It made me smile to read that you look forward to doing your job. Thank you for caring for these people!!

I am a high school art teacher and I love my job. :)
 
In work in IT, specifically in setting up new equipment (laptops, pc's, workstations, et al ) prior to deployment to the end users. I am able to set up my own pace as I work for a department of one ( me!) .
Is not stressful and pays my bills!
 
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