Why has man not returned to the moon?

[Bobo08]

I think that only the Cass can answer or my thoughts are wrong.

I think that you have a consistent tendency to jump to a lot of conclusions based on faulty data that you find and don't question. Discernment is key, so if you could learn to question everything you read and assume none of it is true, that would be a start.

I think this is a very important point. Just because the C's said that 4D beings live on the Moon doesn't make it the truth. Heck, we don't even KNOW if 4D beings exist. We had some strong circumstantial evidence that confirms the idea so we can consider that as correct with a high degree of probability. But I wouldn't put specific details like where they live, what they look like, etc. in the same category based on the C's saying so alone without some independent collaborating evidence.

 

[Cosmos]

I think that only the Cass can answer or my thoughts are wrong.

I think that you have a consistent tendency to jump to a lot of conclusions based on faulty data that you find and don't question. Discernment is key, so if you could learn to question everything you read and assume none of it is true, that would be a start.

I think this is a very important point. Just because the C's said that 4D beings live on the Moon doesn't make it the truth. Heck, we don't even KNOW if 4D beings exist. We had some strong circumstantial evidence that confirms the idea so we can consider that as correct with a high degree of probability. But I wouldn't put specific details like where they live, what they look like, etc. in the same category based on the C's saying so alone without some independent collaborating evidence.

thumbs up to that statement

 

[celtic]

If you think about it what is the reason for returning to the moon unless they was planning to collect a sample? And if so for what? Of course it looks like an excellent experience, but is it really worth the fuel energy and time to travel too and from the moon? I think they should spend their money wisely, especially since a lot is going on on this planet.

 

[paralleloscope]

Celtic, That's sounds like the official explanation why would that be true? Consider the elite having an economy independent from what we are dealing with. Also there are lots of reasons to go such as control, science and observation aspects. Regarding fuel, as has been mentioned we don't know the level of technology employed by secret government, they could easily be using something ala teleportation or antigravity if they are having business there.

 

[whitecoast]

Re: Why has not returned to the moon?

Maybe it's impossible for organisms of a certain density or higher to inhabit the moon, due to the type of cosmic energies it receives from the earth, other planets, et cetera. G said there are only mineral and metallic intelligences there, which I think could be interpreted either as first or second density (I remember the C's or Ra saying locations can be 2D as well, but I'm at a loss to understand the mechanics behind that).

This would explain transient uses by humans and higher beings, and why they lack of sustained presence.

Mouravieff also said that human civilization would eventually influence and alter the moon like we do the earth due to cosmic evolution. Maybe the PTB are waiting for the Wave to hit so they can set up new mines and iPad factories or whatever up there.

 

[Vulcan59]

Apparently the elites do go back and forth and not just to the moon but to Mars via teleportation.

 

[tschai]

Apparently the elites do go back and forth and not just to the moon but to Mars via teleportation.

Priceless Vulcan59-absolutely priceless.

 

[KingTiger]

I noticed this thread a few days ago and find it coincidental that I just finished a book on this very subject. I am not sure if any members have read this book from Ingo Swann, called “PENETRATION, THE QUESTION OF EXTRATERRESTRIAL AND HUMAN TELEPATHY”. This was published in 1999 and seems out of print for now, but can be found on Amazon for a new price of $375.00 (used for $224.99); it could be available elsewhere however.

Many of the questions asked in this thread were also asked in this book, and since Ingo Swann is a claimed remote viewer in the 1970’s, and had an opportunity to remote view locations on the moon for some secret agency in 1975. What he found did not match the common Dead Moon theory.

In the book, he references various research (from many centuries) that detail moon observations of various lights, flashes, clouds and moving objects were seen multitude (thousands of recorded sightings) of times.
Some of his findings are quoted below:

“I found towers, machinery, lights of different colors, strange-looking buildings… I had problems estimating sizes. But some of the things were very large.”
And this…
“I saw some kind of people busy at work… The thing about them was they either were human or look exactly like us – but they were males, as I could well see since they were all butt-ass naked. I had absolutely no idea why.”
And…
“Well it’s more like they were… FEELING rather than seeing or picking up on mind vibes. It’s more like it was, yes, sort of a dimensional thing – rather, sort of like a ripple in some kind of cross-dimensionality… Well, of you can imagine that you feel a presence but can’t see it, it was something like that. “
“The PHYSICAL universe is three-dimensional – not the mental universe. Here is one of the big flaws in all theories about Psi. Everyone thinks of Psi ONLY in three-dimensional terms.”

If anyone can find this book, I think you will find it an interesting read on the subject of the moon and why man did not return to it after 1972. The references alone take up three pages.

I am sure I am up for more discussions on this matter.

 

[Kaigen]

Good question would be also
"How many people from Earth went to the moon"
It could be interesting to know more from another source as Wiki.

The below would mean there have been 10 more men who walked on the moon after Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin

As of 2008, twelve people have walked on the Moon. No one has walked on the Moon since 1972.

Name Born Age on
First Step Mission Lunar EVA dates Age today
1 Neil Armstrong 5 August 1930 38y 11m 15d Apollo 11 July 21, 1969 77
2 Buzz Aldrin 20 January 1930 39y 6m 0d 78
3 Pete Conrad 2 June 1930 39y 5m 17d Apollo 12 November 19-20, 1969 died 8 July 1999, age 69
4 Alan Bean 15 March 1932 37y 8m 4d 76
5 Alan Shepard 18 November 1923 47y 2m 18d Apollo 14 February 5-6, 1971 died 21 July 1998, age 74
6 Edgar Mitchell 17 September 1930 40y 4m 19d 77
7 David Scott 6 June 1932 41y 1m 25d Apollo 15 July 31–August 2, 1971 75
8 James Irwin 17 March 1930 41y 4m 14d died 8 August 1991, age 61
9 John W. Young 24 September 1930 41y 6m 28d Apollo 16 April 21-23, 1972 77
10 Charles Duke 3 October 1935 36y 6m 18d 72
11 Eugene Cernan 14 March 1934 38y 9m 7d Apollo 17 December 11-14, 1972 74
12 Harrison Schmitt 3 July 1935 37y 5m 8d 72

On each of the missions listed above one astronaut orbited the Moon while the other two landed. In addition each of the Apollo 8, Apollo 10, and Apollo 13 missions had a three-man crew and closely encountered the Moon (entering orbit in the case of the former two missions, while Apollo 13 only passed around it). Thus twelve more people have been within a few hundred kilometers of the Moon (along with Young and Cernan who flew out to the Moon and back without landing, but landed on subsequent missions):


Apollo 8 was the first manned mission to reach the Moon (Frank Borman, center)Frank Borman - Apollo 8
Jim Lovell - Apollo 8, Apollo 13: intended to land
William Anders - Apollo 8
Tom Stafford - Apollo 10
*John Young - Apollo 10 (* - later landed on Apollo 16)
**Eugene Cernan - Apollo 10 (** - later landed on Apollo 17)
Michael Collins - Apollo 11
**** Gordon - Apollo 12 (had been slated to land on Apollo 18) [2]
Jack Swigert - Apollo 13
Fred Haise - Apollo 13: intended to land (had been slated to land on Apollo 19) [2]
Stuart Roosa - Apollo 14
Al Worden - Apollo 15
Ken Mattingly - Apollo 16
Ronald Evans - Apollo 17

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apollo_astronauts

 

[Cosmos]

I noticed this thread a few days ago and find it coincidental that I just finished a book on this very subject. I am not sure if any members have read this book from Ingo Swann, called “PENETRATION, THE QUESTION OF EXTRATERRESTRIAL AND HUMAN TELEPATHY”. This was published in 1999 and seems out of print for now, but can be found on Amazon for a new price of $375.00 (used for $224.99); it could be available elsewhere however.

Many of the questions asked in this thread were also asked in this book, and since Ingo Swann is a claimed remote viewer in the 1970’s, and had an opportunity to remote view locations on the moon for some secret agency in 1975. What he found did not match the common Dead Moon theory.

In the book, he references various research (from many centuries) that detail moon observations of various lights, flashes, clouds and moving objects were seen multitude (thousands of recorded sightings) of times.
Some of his findings are quoted below:

“I found towers, machinery, lights of different colors, strange-looking buildings… I had problems estimating sizes. But some of the things were very large.”
And this…
“I saw some kind of people busy at work… The thing about them was they either were human or look exactly like us – but they were males, as I could well see since they were all butt-ass naked. I had absolutely no idea why.”
And…
“Well it’s more like they were… FEELING rather than seeing or picking up on mind vibes. It’s more like it was, yes, sort of a dimensional thing – rather, sort of like a ripple in some kind of cross-dimensionality… Well, of you can imagine that you feel a presence but can’t see it, it was something like that. “
“The PHYSICAL universe is three-dimensional – not the mental universe. Here is one of the big flaws in all theories about Psi. Everyone thinks of Psi ONLY in three-dimensional terms.”

If anyone can find this book, I think you will find it an interesting read on the subject of the moon and why man did not return to it after 1972. The references alone take up three pages.

I am sure I am up for more discussions on this matter.

it was discussed here:

Ingo Swann's Penetration :
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,7618.0.html

 

[jhonny]

What I think is that "the elite" (psychopaths that rule us) are interested in dominating and become "owners" of us so I don't believe they are interested in going to the moon, and also I think we should think what is going on here.
This is just my opinion

 

[wattsup]

OK friends
The point is, what prevents the elite return to the moon, explore Mars or a moon of Jupiter? Or why not travel any other solar system to avoid the wave?
What I think is that they are threatened that any ship that tries to leave the Earth will be destroyed.

Threatened by whom? Destroyed by whom?

On the other hand can not go underground, there are some indications that some underground bases have been destroyed as the tremors in Washington, Colorado and San Antonio.

Earthquakes do not indicate that underground bases have been destroyed - if there even are underground bases. It would be wise to not believe everything you read on the internet.

If they are fried Why try to make the third world war? As to putting a ship in the Gulf of Hormuz.
Why try to attack Russia and China by removing the oil supply from Iran?
Is it so great his greed? I do not understand what Russia and China do not belong to the elite? Or is it a dispute between members of the elite?

Because psychopaths cannot fathom the long term consequences of their actions - and of course elements of those in power in China and Russia are part of the elite.

I think that only the Cass can answer or my thoughts are wrong.

I think that you have a consistent tendency to jump to a lot of conclusions based on faulty data that you find and don't question. Discernment is key, so if you could learn to question everything you read and assume none of it is true, that would be a start.

Anart,

Not that I believe everything for my part but, on the other side, I think that your discernment maybe false too... Nobody at our level truly know what is going on here.

 

[Guardian]

"Why has man not returned to the moon?"

I'm guessing it's because they found out that beer goes flat in zero gravity, and you can't get ESPN in space?

 

[Al Today]

Speaking about the moon...

This morning I heard Richard Hoagland on Coast2Coast radio say that the twin Grail spacecraft were sent there to find the engines of the moon. I guess it's some kind of space ship then? So he sez...


_http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/grail/main/index.html
_http://www.facebook.com/RichardC.Hoagland/posts/306163119421915

Geeze, so many "misinformed" people...


edit: spelling, again :P

 

[ealvizo2012]

Hi Anarte, Yozilla. :)
Hopefully thoughts are exaggerated on my part.

Good question. Destroy by whom? For SAS forces or by the SAO, but the SAO use that method. Although it is also possible that there is a more impersonal third force, which controls the game SAS / SAO, and determines cycles SAO/ SAS. Good question for Cass.

But I'm thinking induced by Yozilla. If I were in the shoes of the reptilian Emperor (Star Wars kind) think, "If the Earth has been mine for so long and now lost, destroyed better." So you want to start World War III.

Anarte, returning to your comment "It would be wise not to believe everything you read on the internet" good advice, but more questions arise, is reliable Bejnamin Fulford a Japanese-Greengo? For me it is very brave.
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Hi Anart, Yozilla. :)
Ojala que sean pensamientos exagerados de mi parte.

Buena pregunta. ¿Destruidos por quien? Por las fuerzas SAS o por los SAO, pero los SAO no usan ese método. Aunque también cabe la posibilidad de que hay una tercera fuerza más impersonal, que controla el juego SAS/SAO y que determina los ciclos SAO/SAS. Buena pregunta para los Cass.

Pero sigo pensando, inducido por Yozilla. Si yo estuviera en los zapatos de el emperador reptiliano (tipo Star War) pensaría “Si la Tierra ha sido mía durante tanto tiempo y ahora la pierdo, mejor la destruyo”. Por eso quiere iniciar la tercera guerra mundial.

Anart, regresando a tu comentario “Sería prudente no creer todo lo que se lee en Internet” buen consejo, pero surgen más preguntas, ¿es confiable Bejnamin Fulford un japonés-greengo? Para mí es muy valiente.