and at that stage, a most relevant notion to the humans who stay human would be a parallel society, if not perhaps a 4d society
I've been wondering how many years are left before society becomes completely insufferable. The time is coming where it will be time to drop out completely, which means eking out a meager existence with some kind of subsistence lifestyle. If Terminator is our future, I'd rather just put a bullet in my head and get it over with; I'm not masochistic enough to hang around for that. For now, I still hold out some feeble hope that the Cassiopaeans are not just full of hot air with their perennial promise of "big changes" coming, but I've gotten rather bored with the "same shit, different year" routine that has characterized the last decade.
axj
The Living Force
What if we incarnated at this time precisely because this is the type of experience that our souls need, in order to grow from it? The sense I get is that things need to get worse before they can get better. Maybe as soon as 2-3 years.
When I see all the craziness going on now and all the lies, and corruption, I think, or at least realize, that these things are not for my benefit or my consumption. It is for the benefit of others who need to be given more chances to see what is going on, and hence make a choice at some point.
I think that is what this is all about, not about saving the old reality, I don't think that is an option.
Pat
Jedi Master
Hang on there. We don't know what the future holds but we feel it is getting worst meaning that we are moving forward and fast. It will be a shame after all the waiting to go without seeing the end of the movie.
In my personal experience, not seeing the end of movie has always given me more headaches forcing me to guess what could have been.
Hang on!!
On some level of existence we chose to be born specifically at this time and for this experience. Together with other people around us. We may not know what role we are going to play in upcoming events, but one thing is clear. To be here at this time is a privilege that does not happen every day. We have been hardened enough to withstand the pressures directed on us, on our families and friends. We are gaining more knowledge and awareness every day and that also comes at cost. Will it be enough?
I keep telling myself: “You get exactly as much as you can handle. Not an iota more.”
At the same time, not an iota less
I hear you Neil,
I’ve fantasised for years about putting a bullet in my head just to feel the relief of ending it all. But I’ve never taken that thought seriously due to absolutely knowing that I would create more problems for myself not less. And so with that knowledge into the world we go. I have made progress recently having noticed that when I have had a downer day I no longer fantasise about the bullet, a small and silent victory.
We all hear you, so just thought I’d repost a response to the December 22 thread Candice posted:
I have some similar thoughts as you but also other thoughts that differ.
For one, I’m highly grateful to have my life partner for support and have my back through hard times. We have different skills that compliment each other.
Also, there is a big difference between viewing impending doom and gloom on social media versus leaving one’s house and viewing true reality. Nature, life, beauty all around, I remind myself I’m so grateful to be alive to have this amazing opportunity to experience this life, it’s lessons, that being alive is such a gift. I thank the divine cosmic mind for this gift. That anchors me in the now not a potential apocalyptic future. That future is open but how I invest my energy in the now is most likely affecting what future will manifest.
Preparation can be fun, so many new skills to learn, remember learning is fun. Cultivate your creativity, could be anything from gardening, to woodworking, botanical identification/medicine etc. I’m having fun learning weaving and sewing. I’m even working on a business plan and project, a dream I’ve always had. I live on an island facing potential invasion and war on top of all the other impending chaos. Someone could say, What’s the point if everything will be burned to a crisp? Well, I don’t think there is a definite pre-determined ending. I might as well have fun and create all while I stare into the abyss, that’s my signal to the Universe, not fear but faith.
And if I am burned to a crisp or swallowed by a major earthquake, oh well so be it, onto the next adventure!
Or cultivate other arts, like music, painting or even cooking, all bring beauty and joy to others, brighten their day, help lighten other’s frequency.
Do I still have bouts of fear or a sense of impending doom? Yes. I had that last week, but I chose not to succumb to those feelings. I choose to use my free will to keep working on myself, my programs and swinging the pendulum away from that which stokes fear and bleakness towards gratitude and unconditional love for life and creation.
It’s hard. The more I learn about the truth of our reality, even my own ignorance on all things, it’s so hard. But maybe it’s just a quirk of my own but I refuse to give up the idea that there is a way forward to be forged towards light and a better world after the old has been cleansed, balance.
People who are still attached to the hierarchical materialism programming of this STS realm will have trouble letting go. We all have these programs, connected to what we believe our lives should look like, careers and relationship goals.
If we’re frozen in fear of the future then we’re wasting precious time, which in a way sounds like a STS trap to me. So why not choose to defy the fear or bleakness? That defiance will look different to each of us. It’s that defiance that makes us human, unpredictable and can potentially seed a different timeline. Is this wishful thinking or faith? I don’t know, I’m chooing to believe it’s faith, as the Cs say, Wait and see!
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fifty_five
Jedi Master
I did it in february 2020. If you have the habit of a survival style and no particular care responsibilities, it is a .... good alternative to suicide
. As far as I am concerned the cosmos conspired my expulsion and set the conditions, which may not be exactly ideal or idyllic, but when are they ever. We do with what we have.
I can handle collapse and have been preparing for it for several years, but there are certain things I'm simply not willing to accept. It needs to be a somewhat balanced collapse. Something along the lines of V would be much more interesting to me than Terminator. In the Terminator future, I envisioned a bunch of people hiding in foxholes clutching a gun for dear life as the cold dusty wind blows across a forlorn post-apocalyptic landscape where they are scrounging for food while trying not to get picked off one by one by genocidal robots. At my level of being, if I don't have some serious 4D powers by that point as an equalizer, there is absolutely no "payoff" that makes that worthwhile and death is preferable. I would hate my life and the universe so much in such a circumstance that it is more sensible to simply exit. I am skeptical that the future would go down exactly like that, but it could. Terminator makes for good theatrics as a cautionary tale about what AI could ultimately do, but it is something that should never be experienced to the degree depicted in the films, and won't be experienced by me.
fifty_five
Jedi Master
I understand. What for the light and love is ascension, is brutally a kick in the ass and you're in orbit. Like the cs said, there's no one there to greet you. You're like a child. With all your traumas. If you process them while alive, albeit in the lowest condition, you save lessons, i.e., incarnations. The way I see it, we have a childlike, traumatic starting condition (we are totally traumatized entities), and the transition to something else is forcibly marked by trauma. It's more and more trauma, until the breaking point that either kills you or kicks you out. What you want is insignificant. Let me say this without sounding like an insult.
Dylou
Jedi Master
The cs told us that humanity had not yet suffered enough to be able to open its eyes to its own reality. This was supported by the material AR in which it is confirmed that illness is a vehicle for change. The world that is falling apart before our eyes, through our psychopathic leaders, seems to be an evil for a good.
But the doubt of a happy outcome is still allowed, as long as it has not become an effective reality. Not to doubt is not to question our reality and therefore to give up the fight so that the passage of humanity in 4D STO is realized.
2023 seems to be displayed everywhere in the media and movies as a pivotal year in the application of the ATS plan so that those that follow will be worse and worse.
Freya Stewart
Jedi
I'm glad you mentioned this about trauma. I was actually thinking about this as I was going to bed last night. I was pondering the idea that one of our main endeavors seems to be working through our existing trauma, but here we are staring down the proverbial barrel at a potentially massive traumatizing event in the future. So, am I understanding you correctly that you are suggesting that trauma is a catalyst for soul growth and that a critical threshold met would transition the individual to 4D or 5D depending on the individual details? Are we just creating a metaphorical greater internal bandwidth with our current work in order to process these future events in a constructive way?
I would also like to add the question: are we also making some pretty huge assumptions here about our individual experiences in the future? And are those apocalyptic worst case scenarios leading to negative energy draining? Perhaps this is a sort of energy draining trap. I only bring this up because I, like many of you here, have also been struggling with these ideas and trying to achieve a more balanced approach to this idea of future knowledge.
I would like to share a personal example here. About a year ago, before I found the forum, I had a dream where I was having a meeting with a male individual I did not recognize and he was informing me that he knew I thought I had signed up for a long life contract this time, but unfortunately my life contract was going to be over my 36th year in 2024. This dream really bothered me, and I thought a lot about how much time I might have left and how I might decide to spend it. After finding Laura and the forum, it really made me question the validity of this dream. There's really nothing helpful about it. It mostly provoked feelings of fear, panic, sadness--much like contemplating our existence or end thereof in a worst case scenario world.
I really think the key here, as others have said, is to focus on what we can do in our here and now, and not to dwell on assumptions about future outcomes. FWIW
fifty_five
Jedi Master
There is nothing negative about it. acknowledging the trauma in my view and not sitting on a romantic vision of ascension is a way of directing the kick in the butt that sends you into orbit in the "right" direction. Painful but right. We are intimately, scientifically related to the environment, parts of it. I Repeat. As the cs say, there is no one to welcome you. And there is nothing good or bad about that. It simply is .
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