Will 2023 be a pivotal year?

[Freya Stewart]

There is nothing negative about it. acknowledging the trauma in my view and not sitting on a romantic vision of ascension is a way of directing the kick in the butt that sends you into orbit in the "right" direction. Painful but right. We are intimately, scientifically related to the environment, parts of it. I Repeat. As the cs say, there is no one to welcome you. And there is nothing good or bad about that. It simply is .

I think you may have misunderstood what I was trying to communicate here in regard to negative energy draining. Please allow me to try to elaborate with a bit more clarity. I was suggesting that when we spend time visualizing scenarios of potential future suffering and demise and inevitably experience the negative feelings that accompany that visualization, this may not be the best use of our inner resources. I am not insinuating that we should have a "romantic vision of ascension" rather that we should devote our mental and emotional resources to our present moment.

 

[fifty_five]

Yes. The question is just one of maintaining balance. Which in some conditions can be more complicated than in others. Not having a romantic outlook does not mean being negative. When you're shot out of the blue you learn that quickly. Or you're screwed .

 

[mkrnhr]

There is a difference between what they (psychopaths in power, their hyper-dimensional overlords, and everyday idiots) want and what will happen. As to what they want, terminator as a sci-fi movie analogy is not the worst of scenarios (humans still have freewill and know their enemies). A closer analogy to what "they" want to implement would be closer to the horror film Ready Player One, body snatchers, brave new world, etc.. However, reality is different than the movies (it often is stranger but still) and what "they" want is not necessarily what the universe wants and allows.
A year ago, they were just about to implement the most totalitarian communist-fascist tyranny in history as a logical continuation of all the crazy lockdowns and all the covid nonsense, and their plans have been suddenly been broken by Russia's military intervention in NATO's Ukraine, at least so far. They will try again and they are trying again through other means. Astonishingly, many people seem to have forgotten how bad it has been or how worse it was meant to become just yesterday.
Things are bleak and depressing yes. Things will get worse before they have the chance to get better, also yes. However, if what they want is not aligned with what the universe intends, then they will not be tolerated indefinitely, and at some point they will become a dream in the past. It will not be easy, and the road ahead is surely bumpy because nothing of real value comes easily, but having faith in the universe, and in ourselves is what is needed. Bailing out before the show is over would be a waste. Additionally, as a wise frog from a distant galaxy said: luminous beings we are, not this crude matter. OSIT.

 

[Maya]

When I see all the craziness going on now and all the lies, and corruption, I think, or at least realize, that these things are not for my benefit or my consumption. It is for the benefit of others who need to be given more chances to see what is going on, and hence make a choice at some point.

I think that is what this is all about, not about saving the old reality, I don't think that is an option.

There is a difference between what they (psychopaths in power, their hyper-dimensional overlords, and everyday idiots) and what will happen. As to what they want, terminator as a sci-fi movie analogy is not the worst of scenarios (humans still have freewill and know their enemies). A closer analogy to what "they" want to implement would be closer to the horror film Ready Player One, body snatchers, brave new world, etc.. However, reality is different than the movies (it often is stranger but still) and what "they" want is not necessarily what the universe wants and allows.
A year ago, they were just about to implement the most totalitarian communist-fascist tyranny in history as a logical continuation of all the crazy lockdowns and all the covid nonsense, and their plans have been suddenly been broken by Russia's military intervention in NATO's Ukraine, at least so far. They will try again and they are trying again through other means. Astonishingly, many people seem to have forgotten how bad it has been or how worse it was meant to become just yesterday.
Things are bleak and depressing yes. Things will get worse before they have the chance to get better, also yes. However, if what they want is not aligned with what the universe intends, then they will not be tolerated indefinitely, and at some point they will become a dream in the past. It will not be easy, and the road ahead is surely bumpy because nothing of real value comes easily, but having faith in the universe, and in ourselves is what is needed. Bailing out before the show is over would be a waste. Additionally, as a wise frog from a distant galaxy said: luminous beings we are, not this crude matter. OSIT.

Word ! Thank you for this gentlemen

 

[Alejo]

I can handle collapse and have been preparing for it for several years, but there are certain things I'm simply not willing to accept. It needs to be a somewhat balanced collapse. Something along the lines of V would be much more interesting to me than Terminator. In the Terminator future, I envisioned a bunch of people hiding in foxholes clutching a gun for dear life as the cold dusty wind blows across a forlorn post-apocalyptic landscape where they are scrounging for food while trying not to get picked off one by one by genocidal robots. At my level of being, if I don't have some serious 4D powers by that point as an equalizer, there is absolutely no "payoff" that makes that worthwhile and death is preferable. I would hate my life and the universe so much in such a circumstance that it is more sensible to simply exit. I am skeptical that the future would go down exactly like that, but it could. Terminator makes for good theatrics as a cautionary tale about what AI could ultimately do, but it is something that should never be experienced to the degree depicted in the films, and won't be experienced by me.

Hi Neil,

well, personally I don't think that the collapse is going to meet our needs unfortunately, but also... it is already happening.

I understand the freight of being alone against hyper dimensional agendas collapsing on one's head, but also.. it's not unfair, it isn't unjust and it certainly isn't personal, and thinking of a "payoff" IMO is one of those things that keeps one stuck in 3D existence, and aligns one with STS principles, and that can only end in precisely a reality with no Payoff, or one where someone else takes your payoff.

I personally see it a bit differently, perhaps a bit more rebellious, if the goal of those who control and own this planet is to maul the human spirit to the point where we loose the will to live, then I will see my life, as an act of defiance against those very PTB who would have me merely exist.

With full awareness that hardship, heartbreak, sorrow and pain will forever remain part of it. there's no way to get around it. And staying with the fictional analogies, I recently heard a phrase uttered that stuck with me: "Death can have me, when it earns me..."

IF, they're going to come for me, with terminator robots, then they shall find me afraid.. sure, but alive, I wouldn't make their job easier.

But also, sometimes it's not so much bravery and rebelliousness, sometimes it's curiosity for what comes next.

In the meantime, we have each other to help us go through the hopelessness, we share our burden.

 

[Harmony99]

Neil the key is not to become impatient at this time...so much can be seen from where we sit. Patience is your ability to handle the days ahead...one day at a time works...How are you managing your days. How are you managing your thoughts so as to always remain positive on your journey. You know you are on a great network....you will soon get WINGS.

 

[Toni Lorenzo]

Your comments are welcome.

UFOLOGY is a "Multi-Billion-Dollar" Industry that's run similar to a syndicate (Corey Goode). The entire Disclosure Movement for that matter, is know to be run and controlled by the CIA. Were talking here about a fake community where big fish and corporations work together to control a narrative very similar to lame-stream media and nightly news. There is no proof to such accusations neither who is really behind these narratives, but you can surely just follow the money. Any person or voice who goes against this system opens their self to the possibility of physical abuse, verbal attacks, and legal persecution. With that said, in response to the initial thread and question, "Will 2023 be a pivotal year?" Well, we'll just have to wait and see, because the "Moment" is where the rubber meets the road. No pun intended.

Hang on there. We don't know what the future holds but we feel it is getting worst meaning that we are moving forward and fast. It will be a shame after all the waiting to go without seeing the end of the movie.
In my personal experience, not seeing the end of movie has always given me more headaches forcing me to guess what could have been.
Hang on!!

Beautiful observation and excellent point! As a matter of fact, the end of a movie is a very difficult point for many directors. Most them create several different versions to an ending from their movies, to view later a few different possibilities in order to chose the best one. This option we also have, once we wake up to our creative possibilities, although the consensuses clearly seems to be against this understanding.

 

[Joe]

I can handle collapse and have been preparing for it for several years, but there are certain things I'm simply not willing to accept. It needs to be a somewhat balanced collapse. Something along the lines of V would be much more interesting to me than Terminator. In the Terminator future, I envisioned a bunch of people hiding in foxholes clutching a gun for dear life as the cold dusty wind blows across a forlorn post-apocalyptic landscape where they are scrounging for food while trying not to get picked off one by one by genocidal robots. At my level of being, if I don't have some serious 4D powers by that point as an equalizer, there is absolutely no "payoff" that makes that worthwhile and death is preferable. I would hate my life and the universe so much in such a circumstance that it is more sensible to simply exit. I am skeptical that the future would go down exactly like that, but it could. Terminator makes for good theatrics as a cautionary tale about what AI could ultimately do, but it is something that should never be experienced to the degree depicted in the films, and won't be experienced by me.

Too much Hollywood Neil! Everything will be fine! Just stay the course, keep the faith, and watch what happens. You're stronger than you think, and your imagination is too pessimistic.

 

[Joe]

A year ago, they were just about to implement the most totalitarian communist-fascist tyranny in history as a logical continuation of all the crazy lockdowns and all the covid nonsense, and their plans have been suddenly been broken by Russia's military intervention in NATO's Ukraine, at least so far.

Which shows just how fickle these "tyrants" are. Also, the lockdowns were faltering even before the Ukraine situation. As the Cs said recently, it seems these arrogant, fickle, self-absorbed and myopic elites are being manipulated by forces they don't understand, but the saving grace seems to be that those forces have no one else through which to try to implement their nefarious plans. Notice that the lockdowns were really only implemented through fear. If you weren't afraid, there wasn't much to the lockdowns, other than surprise that they would try such a crass and feckless move.

As I've said before, I was really expecting a better class of "evil overlord", but all we're getting is a bunch of clowns.

 

[mariowil7]

As I've said before, I was really expecting a better class of "evil overlord", but all we're getting is a bunch of clowns.

That is it @Joe and that is why I has been having in the lasts years the impression that we are in a Controlled Demolition scenario of our civilization that even the PTB are not satisfied with how things are going for them in this grand finale...

Just my two cents...

 

[mkrnhr]

As I've said before, I was really expecting a better class of "evil overlord", but all we're getting is a bunch of clowns.

Let us hope they ridicule themselves even more this year. A great show to enjoy for the ages.

 

[Alejo]

Let us hope they ridicule themselves even more this year. A great show to enjoy for the ages.

They're already starting... with trying to weaponize geopolitically driven travel restrictions with China... so, bumpy ride ahead for sure.

 

[iamthatis]

Perhaps, on the basis of a bit of shifty-handed numerancy, 2023 will be a good year for a CBDC rollout?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610394585682919431

 

[Approaching Infinity]

I can handle collapse and have been preparing for it for several years, but there are certain things I'm simply not willing to accept. It needs to be a somewhat balanced collapse. Something along the lines of V would be much more interesting to me than Terminator. In the Terminator future, I envisioned a bunch of people hiding in foxholes clutching a gun for dear life as the cold dusty wind blows across a forlorn post-apocalyptic landscape where they are scrounging for food while trying not to get picked off one by one by genocidal robots. At my level of being, if I don't have some serious 4D powers by that point as an equalizer, there is absolutely no "payoff" that makes that worthwhile and death is preferable. I would hate my life and the universe so much in such a circumstance that it is more sensible to simply exit. I am skeptical that the future would go down exactly like that, but it could. Terminator makes for good theatrics as a cautionary tale about what AI could ultimately do, but it is something that should never be experienced to the degree depicted in the films, and won't be experienced by me.

I think many of us have probably had similar thoughts at various times, Neil. I've had similar fantasies about the future, picturing an utterly bleak scenario where the will to live is weak. But when I have those, I tend to remind myself that I'm slipping into useless imagination. The fact is, I'm not living in that situation. And really, as much as I think I know how I'd react in such a situation, I don't. I've had countless anxieties and fears throughout my life, and each time I face one of them, I'm surprised at how faulty my projected imagination of it really was. Some of them turned out to be adventures I do not regret having in the slightest.

I may be off here, but I sometimes get the impression that you may be living a bit too much in that scary future. The fact is, you're here, with us, in the here and now, not in some post-apocalyptic Terminator nightmare. Ok, so you know that right now, you wouldn't want to live in such a world. Ok. How about you file that away, having established it for yourself? As it currently stands, though, it's still a fantasy. What would the Stoics say? There really is only the present, and I think it would probably do all of us some good to cultivate it, rather than banking on some future scenario, whether hellish or heavenly. We cannot know the future. We could die today or tomorrow. Even if our imagined future comes, it may come after our time. What will the point have been in expending energy worrying about it? Better to let heaven or hell just provide some fire for the present, IMO.

 

[goyacobol]

I've been wondering how many years are left before society becomes completely insufferable. The time is coming where it will be time to drop out completely, which means eking out a meager existence with some kind of subsistence lifestyle. If Terminator is our future, I'd rather just put a bullet in my head and get it over with; I'm not masochistic enough to hang around for that. For now, I still hold out some feeble hope that the Cassiopaeans are not just full of hot air with their perennial promise of "big changes" coming, but I've gotten rather bored with the "same shit, different year" routine that has characterized the last decade.

@Neil,

I hear you. It seems like we are all hoping (and praying) that "change will follow" all this "shit" so to speak. And as @Laura said "That is inexpressibly depressing. Do you understand?". Patience is probably not my best virtue either.

I can handle collapse and have been preparing for it for several years, but there are certain things I'm simply not willing to accept. It needs to be a somewhat balanced collapse. Something along the lines of V would be much more interesting to me than Terminator. In the Terminator future, I envisioned a bunch of people hiding in foxholes clutching a gun for dear life as the cold dusty wind blows across a forlorn post-apocalyptic landscape where they are scrounging for food while trying not to get picked off one by one by genocidal robots. At my level of being, if I don't have some serious 4D powers by that point as an equalizer, there is absolutely no "payoff" that makes that worthwhile and death is preferable. I would hate my life and the universe so much in such a circumstance that it is more sensible to simply exit. I am skeptical that the future would go down exactly like that, but it could. Terminator makes for good theatrics as a cautionary tale about what AI could ultimately do, but it is something that should never be experienced to the degree depicted in the films, and won't be experienced by me.

In a sense, I think it is possibly a necessary condition for most of us to reach the point where we see that we are out-gunned without some "serious 4D powers". When our emotions "limit" we get stuck but if we are able to expand them in a positive way they may help us to "prepare" for the next density step.

Session 9 September 1995:

Q: (L) Is it also correct that emotion can be used to mislead, that is emotions that are twisted and generated strictly from the flesh or false programming?

A: Emotion that limits is an impediment to progress. Emotion is also necessary to make progress in 3rd density. It is natural. When you begin to separate limiting emotions based on assumptions from emotions that open one to unlimited possibilities, that means you are preparing for the next density.

"It is natural" as the Cs say.