Winter Storm Threatens East Coast? Batten Down the Hatches

Ekios said:
Yes it is from the movie for sure.

Damn, the amount of fakes is impressive, and yet we are talking about a natural catastrophe ... what is wrong with people ?! :shock:

People been passing around this one (attached) on FB, acting like it's real but really it's not. People at my work actually believed it (they got the pictures on their own FB).
 

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Zadius Sky said:
Ekios said:
Yes it is from the movie for sure.

Damn, the amount of fakes is impressive, and yet we are talking about a natural catastrophe ... what is wrong with people ?! :shock:

People been passing around this one (attached) on FB, acting like it's real but really it's not. People at my work actually believed it (they got the pictures on their own FB).

Nice one but it looks more like a big storm cloud than a hurricane. Seems very small in comparaison.

Just found the original picture, osit. Go to "google image", type "storm cloud" and you'll have it there in the second row or so.

Peace.
 
The winds picked up last night but it wasn't bad. It's calm outside now, no rain or wind. No damage was done from flying debris or anything like that. Power stayed on all last night although I'm loosing internet intermittently at the moment. Other then that no other problems.
 
anart said:
All is well here, we did not lose power last night and no flooding in the house at all - so we must have been in a good spot for this one.

Here, too. Very glad we didn't have any flooding. Funny, everything died down for a couple hours with almost no wind and rain, and that's when we lost power! It came back though, and didn't go back out during the high winds during the early morning.

Thoughts definitely go out to everyone who had it much worse than I. Some of these pictures are just unbelievable.

Damn, the amount of fakes is impressive, and yet we are talking about a natural catastrophe ... what is wrong with people ?! :shock:

I know! Someone photoshopped a picture of one of the bridges downstate here collapsing, and the local news had it on their website and facebook page for quite awhile. Who does that?
 
Here in southeast lower Michigan, we are also feeling the effects of Sandy, 750 miles away! We're under a wind advisory- winds are 25-30 mph with gusts of 50-60 mph. After being dry most of the day Monday, rain has moved in today. Lake Michigan has 25 foot waves!

Luckily, I don't have to work today. On the expressway yesterday, I saw a parade of oversize loads. I don't care to share the road with them in high wind! I guess they were scrambling to get to their destinations before super high winds set in. Stay safe everyone!
 
I am relieved to hear that most of you are ok, and hope that everyone else will update us soon who lives along Sandy's path. I was traveling for the last few days, but I kept checking the news on sott and here wherever I could. I hope our members in Ontario, Quebec and the Maritimes are prepared also. Let us know how things are where you are!

There's news this morning about a nuclear power plant in New Jersey, being on alert:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225125/New-Jersey-nuclear-plant-alert-Superstorm-Sandy-threatens-cooling-spent-uranium-fuel-rods.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Nuclear plant on alert as Superstorm Sandy threatens cooling system of spent uranium fuel rods

Rising water could knock out cooling system at New Jersey nuclear power plant
Operators on standby to cool spent fuel with fire hoses

By Sam Webb and Andrew Milne

PUBLISHED: 06:54 GMT, 30 October 2012 | UPDATED: 12:04 GMT, 30 October 2012

A New Jersey nuclear plant is on alert as flood waters from Hurricane Sandy threatens the cooling of its spent uranium fuel rods.

Exelon said that a further rise in water levels could force operators at its New Jersey Oyster Creek nuclear power plant to use emergency water supplies from a fire hose to cool the spent rods.

The alert - the second lowest of four Nuclear Regulatory Commission action levels - came after water levels at the plant rose by more than 6.5 feet, potentially affecting the pumps that circulate water through the plant from Barnegat Bay, an NRC spokesman said.

Those pumps are not essential since the plant is shut for planned refueling at the moment. However a further rise to 7 feet could submerge the service water pump motor that is used to cool the water in the spent fuel pool.

If cooling ceased, the pool would take 25 hours to reach boiling point.

The spokesman said the company could use water from a fire hose to cool the pool if necessary. The used uranium rods in the pool could cause the water to boil without additional coolant: in an extreme scenario the rods could overheat, risking the eventual release of radiation.

The NRC said in a statement that it expected water levels would begin to abate within the next several hours.

Sandy made landfall last night as the most powerful Atlantic storm to hit the United States, bringing a storm surge of more than 13 feet.

There have been about a dozen instances of alert-level nuclear incidents in the past four years, according to NRC press releases.

An alert-level incident means there is a 'potential substantial degradation in the level of safety' at a reactor.

The concerns over the status of the spent fuel pool at Oyster Creek were reminiscent of the fears that followed the Fukushima disaster in Japan last year, when helicopters and fire hoses were enlisted to ensure the pools remained filled with fresh, cool water.

The nuclear industry has said that the spent fuel rods at Fukushima were never exposed to the air.

Oyster Creek is a single unit boiling water reactor that began operation in 1969. It was the first large scale commercial nuclear power plant in the US and is scheduled to be retired at the end of 2019.
 
I'm relieved to hear that you all are safe and most of you still have electricity. :hug2: Boy though, the way the media has been dealing with this storm just stinks to high heaven. Of course the situation is something to be concerned about, and my heart goes out to everyone who has been and will be affected - but when in the past has the mainstream media ever been concerned about anything important like peoples safety wellbeing? It's just really strange that we're usually the ones reporting the increasingly strange and worsening weather patterns that are downplayed as normal by other outlets, and on this occasion they've gone whole hog. Whether it's a distraction from the political scene, or other strange weather/fireball activity, an enhanced channel for peoples feelings that something really bad is happening in the world, a shock and awe show to prepare the populace to accept something they normally wouldn't, or a training/test run of some sort, I'm getting a really bad feeling about where this is going.

I wonder if there's any connection to what FEMA has been up to lately? http://www.sott.net/article/252594-Americas-brownshirts-Homeland-Security-graduates-first-Corps-of-Homeland-Youth

On September 13, 2012, the Department of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps first-responders. While the idea of having a volunteer force of tens of thousands of volunteers scattered across the country to aid in times of natural disasters sounds great, the details and timing of this new government army is somewhat curious, if not disturbing.

DHS raising an armed army

The first problem one finds with this 'new army' is the fact that they are mere children. Yes, 18 is generally the legal age a person can sign a contract, join the military or be tried as an adult. But ask any parent - an 18, 20 or even a 24 year-old is still a naïve, readily-influenced kid.

The second problem with this announcement and program is its timing. Over the past two years, President Obama has signed a number of Executive Orders suspending all civil and Constitutional rights and turning over management of an America under Martial Law to FEMA. Also in that time, domestic federal agencies under DHS, including FEMA, have ordered billions of rounds of ammunition as well as the corresponding firearms. Admittedly, these new weapons and ammunition aren't to be used in some far-off war or to fight forest fires in California, but right here on the streets of America.

http://www.sott.net/article/252468-Strange-domes-to-line-the-Texas-coast-in-preparation-for-something-to-come

The government has also offered to cover 75% of the cost on structures over 20,00 square feet in size. A facility of this size would cost around $1 million.

What is interesting is how recent reports vary in nature. Some say that the domes are to protect citizens from hurricanes while others say that FEMA equipment will be held in the domes.

And..

http://www.sott.net/article/252045-Why-is-the-US-government-planning-for-mass-fatalities

The bill is entitled the "Mass Fatality Planning and Religious Considerations Act," and its stated purpose is "[to] amend the Homeland Security Act of 2002 to require the Administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to provide guidance and coordination for mass fatality planning..."
 
At work now, power stayed on, lots of rain still going on today. My umbrella turned inside out as soon as I walked outside. Fortunately we had a dry summer and the rivers and streams were kinda low. I'm sure there's probably some flooding around the city, but haven't had time to check the local TV/news yet.
 
PullingPins said:
Damn, the amount of fakes is impressive, and yet we are talking about a natural catastrophe ... what is wrong with people ?! :shock:
I know! Someone photoshopped a picture of one of the bridges downstate here collapsing, and the local news had it on their website and facebook page for quite awhile. Who does that?

I think lots of people subconsciously want something like this to happen, hence the fakes. Perhaps it's conditioning from films and media, etc. But I think that deep down there is a knowledge that our current culture is unsustainable, and so there is some sort of desire for disruption. This is totally just a theory...
 
Jonathan said:
PullingPins said:
Damn, the amount of fakes is impressive, and yet we are talking about a natural catastrophe ... what is wrong with people ?! :shock:
I know! Someone photoshopped a picture of one of the bridges downstate here collapsing, and the local news had it on their website and facebook page for quite awhile. Who does that?

I think lots of people subconsciously want something like this to happen, hence the fakes. Perhaps it's conditioning from films and media, etc. But I think that deep down there is a knowledge that our current culture is unsustainable, and so there is some sort of desire for disruption. This is totally just a theory...
I had the same thought : they want to see it burn to ground (or sink) ... it scares me ...
 
Glad and relieved that all who reported are safe and sound. Thanks for keeping us updated and may the worst be over.

I also find the reporting of this to be unusual (also because it's not the local/regional media, but national and international media getting in on the sensationalizing and feigned concern, fwiw). Probably something is behind it, and we'll have to wait and see what it might be.
 
SeekinTruth said:
Glad and relieved that all who reported are safe and sound. Thanks for keeping us updated and may the worst be over.

I also find the reporting of this to be unusual (also because it's not the local/regional media, but national and international media getting in on the sensationalizing and feigned concern, fwiw). Probably something is behind it, and we'll have to wait and see what it might be.

Yes , I agree the coverage is strange. Twitter feeds have been the most infomative. Going through pages and pages of google does not turn up any really good articles. Last night as it was making land fall most of what was being written was what T.V. shows were being cancled...uhhggg. Most of all how this would effect the prez race and who said what in politacal games. With 8 million without power it is good to hear most forum members are unnaffected :D
 
Horseofadifferentcolor said:
SeekinTruth said:
Glad and relieved that all who reported are safe and sound. Thanks for keeping us updated and may the worst be over.

I also find the reporting of this to be unusual (also because it's not the local/regional media, but national and international media getting in on the sensationalizing and feigned concern, fwiw). Probably something is behind it, and we'll have to wait and see what it might be.

Yes , I agree the coverage is strange. Twitter feeds have been the most infomative. Going through pages and pages of google does not turn up any really good articles. Last night as it was making land fall most of what was being written was what T.V. shows were being cancled...uhhggg. Most of all how this would effect the prez race and who said what in politacal games. With 8 million without power it is good to hear most forum members are unnaffected :D

I second that, I had the same thought two days ago by seeing the mainstream media taking all the space all around the world or almost. This sounded strange to me, as they usually cover up this kind of event, especially these last years, as the floods in Nashville in 2010, for example...

Thank you for all members who give us information and I'm glad to read you are safe too. :hug2:

Sandy has not finished yet, so I also think to all those who will see it close from their place in the next hours/days.
 
Andromeda said:
I'm relieved to hear that you all are safe and most of you still have electricity. :hug2: Boy though, the way the media has been dealing with this storm just stinks to high heaven. Of course the situation is something to be concerned about, and my heart goes out to everyone who has been and will be affected - but when in the past has the mainstream media ever been concerned about anything important like peoples safety wellbeing? It's just really strange that we're usually the ones reporting the increasingly strange and worsening weather patterns that are downplayed as normal by other outlets, and on this occasion they've gone whole hog. Whether it's a distraction from the political scene, or other strange weather/fireball activity, an enhanced channel for peoples feelings that something really bad is happening in the world, a shock and awe show to prepare the populace to accept something they normally wouldn't, or a training/test run of some sort, I'm getting a really bad feeling about where this is going.

Reminds me of something from the book 'Thinking fast and slow':

The evidence of priming studies suggests that reminding people of their mortality increases the appeal of authoritarian ideas, which may become reassuring in the context of the terror of death.

Of course, when the people realise, as in the case of e.g. the prospect of total destruction by comets, that the authorities can't save them, then there will be anarchy and chaos, osit.
 
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