Imminent Alien Disclosure?

Another interesting interview with Tom DeLonge:

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Tom DeLonge Talks the UFO Phenomenon and 'Sekret Machines: War'

Welcome back to DEAD Time. The purpose of this column is to inform and entertain, when possible, but also to hopefully get you to open your mind to new possibilities about the world around you. So, this month I reached out to someone who has been...
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BD: You've applied science and religion to the phenomenon in the Sekret Machines book series. What are your thoughts on the interdimensional hypothesis as a possible explanation for UFOs?

TD: I think it's an absolute. I think what we're dealing with is that the universe is kind of like the mind of God, if you will, and all things that could be happening past, present, and future are happening simultaneously, kind of like that movie Everything Everywhere All at Once. It's all happening and the only separation through all these events are the frequencies with which we vibrate as humans, or the matter that is all around us. But if we were to change the vibration of ourselves — say we built a craft that could change the frequency with massive amounts of energy, we could probably tune in to different types of frequencies in different timelines, like a radio station back in the day when we would tune in to different radio stations in our cars.

So, I think what we're dealing with are life forms that are traversing timelines through the use of artificial frequency variation and also biologically might be able to traverse timelines without a craft, just through their consciousness. So, I think that's kind of like when you get into more of the paranormal stuff, what are all these things that we see that go bump in the night. I think it's things that are bleeding through the frequencies.
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I'm not even saying that all UFOs are evil, but I am definitely saying a lot of them are, and not in the normal type of evil, but more in different and after its own interests, and that could be very harmful to human beings and what we are trying to achieve in this physical reality.
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DiscoveringTruth said:
Recent clip of Dr. Garry Nolan getting asked about why UFOs keep crashing. His answer:

1) The UFO tech is advanced but still unstable, can perhaps even be brought down purposefully by humans via EM pulse (mentioned by other researchers as well) or natural causes that produce EM such as lightning strikes

2) There is "evidence" that all NHI do not comport to the same command structure, could be many things in tension with each other like 1600s colonial powers fighting or "unhappy with each other", for raw materials on Planet Earth. Is this what was seen in the skies over Nuremberg in 1561? I don't think Cs have indicated that there is a tension between these forces because there is a clear hierarchy based on physical and mental abilities (Humanoid Orions >> Minturians ~> Reptilians > Grays).


The video has some other interesting bits as well. Doesn't provide any actual evidence though.
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In addition to previous comments from other Forum members, it may be worth recalling here that the three Gypsy commentators who annotated Morris K. Jessup's book The Case for the UFO stated that the battle in the skies over Nuremberg in 1561 and other such incidents was between the LM's or Little Men (the Greys?) and the S Men, who the C's said were Secret Order members. The Greys, as we know, are cyber-genetic probes of the Orions but the S Men may be 4D STS Nordics or other humanoids (like the Altareans) who are also Orions. The other possibility is that the S Men may represent the Quorum, which the C's have said is predominantly comprised of aliens. The C's once said this of the Orions:

Orions created grays in 5 varieties, as cyber-genetic beings, and installed them on Zeta Reticuli 1, 2, 3, and 4, as well as on 2 planets orbiting Barnard's Star. The Reptilians also inhabit 6 planets in the Orion region in 4th density, and are owned by the Orion STS as slaves, and, in some cases, pets!!!

This may suggest that the 4D STS Nordic types, as Orion STS*, are the top of the 4D STS food chain. This makes me wonder whether these sky battles described in the past by our medieval ancestors reflect battles between the 4D STS Nordics and the Lizards and their Grey stooges, where the former were slapping down the latter as upstarts trying to usurp the Orion Nordics' hegemony and thus needing to be put back in their place? The Gypsy commentators described on off wars between the two groups, which seem to be territorial, thus mirroring our own human conflicts. Since we are 3D food for 4D STS, perhaps we are the prize they are fighting over rather like cattle herds, where one group are the cowboys protecting the herd and the other group are rustlers trying to prise them away.

*Elsewhere the C's said that the Orion STS were the Nordics and all other humanoid combination:
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Q: (L) Are the Orion STS the infamous red-headed Nordic aliens?

A: Yes, and all other humanoid combinations.

So we may be looking at a complex situation involving turf wars between different Orion factions.
 
My second post on here but I feel as though it might provide a different take on things Disclosure.

My contention is that full blown disclosure was going to happen late 2019 or even very early 2020. The MIC (military industrial complex)/TPTB were desperate to stop that from happening so they ushered in the scamdemic to distract the world and lock it down. My take on it is that suffered body blows, possibly fatal that allowed a group to infiltrate and get to the position where they would have been able to release everything they had into the public domain, stuff that would have resulted in the destruction of the power they have wielded for tens of thousands of years.

The "disclosures" that have occurred through people like Elizondo, Grusch et al I put to the forum were MIC efforts to regain control of the narrative and hopefully appease the masses.
 
What do you guys make of Steven Greer's Disclosure Project? I've done searches and found his efforts have been mentioned on many occasions but was wondering what the current consensus was regarding his efforts.

There is something about these new developments that get my goat, that is how all these "insiders" and "leakers" are running everything past DOPSR.

WHY???

Whistleblowers in the past released what they had irrespective of whether it was or wasn't sanctioned by the apparatchiks and to hell with the consequences such was the import of what they had being put into the public domain.
 
chieftain said:
What do you guys make of Steven Greer's Disclosure Project?
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The dude's idea of the Aliens concept has a level of deception, IMHO.

Comments about Greer's documentary on Wiki (Sirius (2013 film)
John Defore of The Hollywood Reporter wrote that the film "is far too impassioned in its nuttiness to be a purely cynical, Scientology-style sham," that it "rather strangely squeezes the last few years of UFO-related news coverage into a misleading frame, arguing that journalists, pundits and the government are collaborating to build fear in the public that would justify the establishment of a "one-world government" that could wage an "interplanetary war", and notes that "though [Greer's] been summoning [UFOs] from across the galaxy for decades, he can never convince an alien ship to travel an extra couple of miles and hover for a good photograph."[28]
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Cassiopaean Session Transcripts Search

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1820595172977320351

James Clapper and Lue Elizondo the odd couple and the deep state

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820841873126387835
 
MJF said:
In addition to previous comments from other Forum members, it may be worth recalling here that the three Gypsy commentators who annotated Morris K. Jessup's book The Case for the UFO stated that the battle in the skies over Nuremberg in 1561 and other such incidents was between the LM's or Little Men (the Greys?) and the S Men, who the C's said were Secret Order members. The Greys, as we know, are cyber-genetic probes of the Orions but the S Men may be 4D STS Nordics or other humanoids (like the Altareans) who are also Orions. The other possibility is that the S Men may represent the Quorum, which the C's have said is predominantly comprised of aliens. The C's once said this of the Orions:

Orions created grays in 5 varieties, as cyber-genetic beings, and installed them on Zeta Reticuli 1, 2, 3, and 4, as well as on 2 planets orbiting Barnard's Star. The Reptilians also inhabit 6 planets in the Orion region in 4th density, and are owned by the Orion STS as slaves, and, in some cases, pets!!!

This may suggest that the 4D STS Nordic types, as Orion STS*, are the top of the 4D STS food chain. This makes me wonder whether these sky battles described in the past by our medieval ancestors reflect battles between the 4D STS Nordics and the Lizards and their Grey stooges, where the former were slapping down the latter as upstarts trying to usurp the Orion Nordics' hegemony and thus needing to be put back in their place? The Gypsy commentators described on off wars between the two groups, which seem to be territorial, thus mirroring our own human conflicts. Since we are 3D food for 4D STS, perhaps we are the prize they are fighting over rather like cattle herds, where one group are the cowboys protecting the herd and the other group are rustlers trying to prise them away.

*Elsewhere the C's said that the Orion STS were the Nordics and all other humanoid combination:
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Q: (L) Are the Orion STS the infamous red-headed Nordic aliens?

A: Yes, and all other humanoid combinations.

So we may be looking at a complex situation involving turf wars between different Orion factions.
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If my memory serves me right, I read a newspaper article years ago about the Nuremberg incident in 1561 and I seem to remember that the battle was stopped when a giant black ship shaped like a spearhead appeared.

Whoever was fighting, in the end someone who had more power than them came along and stopped the matter.
 
Wandering Star said:
If my memory serves me right, I read a newspaper article years ago about the Nuremberg incident in 1561 and I seem to remember that the battle was stopped when a giant black ship shaped like a spearhead appeared.

Whoever was fighting, in the end someone who had more power than them came along and stopped the matter.
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I had the same thought the other day- that Orion STS may be engaged in Game of Thrones style infighting and Earth is the prize. Ultimately, if they wanted us all dead we would be- so the end game probably involves humans as the resource most important. Not looking good for us.
 
There was an interesting report in the UK's Daily Express newspaper recently concerning two British intelligence officials who were sent to a classified international summit about UFOs at the Pentagon in May 2023, despite the UK Ministry of Defence (MOD) claiming to have had no interest in the subject since 2009. Apologies if this is old news on this thread. What the newspaper's angle on this visit by these two intelligence officers was that the UK MOD had concluded back in 2009 that the study of UFOs (or UAPs) had come up with nothing and had been a complete waste of taxpayers money. So the paper wondered why, if this was the official MOD line, were two British intelligence officials sent to a classified international summit about UFOs at the Pentagon in 2023 at the taxpayers' expense.

This matter subsequently dragged in Nick Pope, who is a well known UFO researcher who has appeared on numerous UFO themed TV shows such as Ancient Aliens, since he worked for the MOD's UFO desk for nearly 20 years and has much inside knowledge of the research that was undertaken into the phenomenon during that time. I set out the article in full below with bolding on my part as regards parts of the article that I especially wish to draw to your attention:
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Two British intelligence officials were sent to a classified international summit about UFOs at the Pentagon, it has emerged, despite the UK Ministry of Defence claiming to have had no interest in the subject since 2009.

The UFO community are convinced that world governments know more than they are letting on about the existence of aliens while governments have taken an interest in examining the phenomenon of UFOs after several unexplained sightings.

On Tuesday Express.co.uk reported that the MOD branded an earlier study by the British military into the potential existence of alien life from UFOs reportedly seen across the country, including by its pilots, a waste of taxpayer's cash.

The spokeswoman said: "In over 50 years, no sightings of extra-terrestrial intelligence, Unidentified Flying Objects and Unidentified Aerial Phenomena reported to us indicated the existence of any military threat to the United Kingdom."

"It remains more valuable to prioritise MOD resources towards other Defence-related activities." In 2009 the MOD UFO desk was closed because it served no defence purpose and was taking staff away from more valuable defence-related activities.
"There was no defence benefit in such investigations and therefore, it was deemed an inappropriate use of defence resources."

It prompted Nick Pope, a former MOD civil servant who investigated UFO phenomena, up to the 1990s to make contact with a very recent Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) response from the MOD that suggested otherwise.
Only four days earlier the MOD sent him the FOIA response which said two members of staff from Defence Intelligence (DI) had visited the USA in connection with UFOs, now called Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) by world governments.

Mr Pope had asked: How many MOD personnel attended the "inaugural UAP Caucus Working Group" held at the Pentagon on 24 May 2023?

He also asked for their grade or rank, which division they came from and if they were defence intelligence staff.

The reply said: "In regard to questions one and four, at the time of the meeting, two members of staff from Defence Intelligence (DI) were in attendance."

It would not discuss ranks or divisions due to "personnel security."

Very little is known about what went on at the meeting, but it was arranged by Five Eyes (FVEY), an anglosphere intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States.
They work together on a treaty for cooperation in signals intelligence.

Grant Lavac, a UFO researcher based in Melbourne, Australia, obtained redacted parts of an agenda for the meeting under US freedom of information laws.

He posted them on X adding: "AARO's Five Eyes forum on UAP that was led by former AARO Director, Dr Sean Kirkpatrick in May 2023 was officially called the 'FVEY Inaugural UAP Caucus Working Group."

"Today I received a copy of the meeting agenda through FOIA."

"The inaugural Working Group meeting took place at the Pentagon on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, and was attended by representatives from AARO, ODNI, FAA, NASA, Canada, United Kingdom, Australia and New Zealand.

"With an entire agenda item devoted to 'FVEY Partner UAP Updates', it would be very interesting to know what each Five Eyes partner brought to the table and contributed to the discussions... particularly Australia, as AU DoD hasn't investigated the #UAP topic since 1996 and currently has no recording/reporting protocols in place for Defence personnel."
The papers said the talks were to "cultivate shared awareness of allies' UAP issues: Detection, identification, mitigation and challenges and opportunities for mission-specific collaboration."

Mr Pope said: "This latest MOD statement obtained by the Express is virtually identical to ones I drafted for the MOD Press Office in the 1990s, as part of our standard policy to play down the true extent of our interest and involvement in UAP's. It's a clever piece of doublethink. It skilfully sidesteps the fact that while UAP hasn't displayed overt hostility, unidentified objects in UK airspace displaying unusual speeds, manoeuvres and accelerations are - in and of themselves - a defence and national security concern."

"The MOD has records of UFO sightings going back to the Second World War, but it wasn't until 1953 that a formal effort was made to investigate individual sightings as they came in. This program lasted until the end of 2009, and self-evidently, the MOD wouldn't spend over fifty years researching and investigating a phenomenon if it wasn't important, core defence business. Unfortunately, the MOD has a short corporate memory, and as the programme was terminated in 2009, now claiming these decades of work were 'an inappropriate use of defence resources' have no direct experience of UAP work."

"The recent letter that I received drove a coach and horses through the line that they no longer have any interest in UFOs."

"This meeting was held at the Pentagon in Washington DC on 24 May 2023. The meeting was chaired by Dr Sean Kirkpatrick, the then Director of the Department of Defense's All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, and he described the meeting as being a forum of the Five Eyes - the intelligence-sharing alliance between the US, the UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand."

"Self-evidently, the MOD is not in the business of sending two intelligence specialists on a transatlantic trip to attend a meeting on a subject in which the MoD has no interest or involvement; especially given the current pressures on the defence budget. What this bombshell revelation shows is that despite the denials, the MOD is still fully engaged in UAP work."

"I support this continued involvement because Defence Intelligence leads the world in many areas of intelligence collection and analysis, with scientific and technical intelligence being a particular area of strength."

"So I'm pleased that the MOD continues to make a significant contribution to the US-led effort to solve the UAP mystery - even if this isn't being disclosed to the media or the public."

The MOD has previously said: "The UK keeps our national security posture under constant review and the UK is well-prepared to deal with threats within our airspace, with the RAF monitoring and policing UK airspace, defending the nation from any threats."

"We maintain an open and ongoing dialogue on a range of defence issues, including through the Five Eyes alliance."

Express.co.uk asked it to specifically comment on sending two intelligence specialists to UAP talks after claiming no interest a spokeswoman said it had nothing to add.

It is of major interest here that the Pentagon hosted what was described as the "FVEY Inaugural UAP Caucus Working Group", which was effectively a secret meeting of the Anglosphere's intelligence alliance, otherwise known as "Five Eyes", in order to cultivate a shared awareness of the allies' UAP issues. You will note that NASA also participated in the meeting, despite the fact that it is considered to be a civilian space agency.

So, in spite of official statements to the contrary, it seems that the British defence establishment does take UAP's seriously. The fact that all five member countries of the Five Eyes Alliance are now sharing information (if they were not already doing so) on UAP's is highly significant. I say this because the Anglosphere is deeply controlled by the Illuminati perhaps more so than any other group of nations.

It is also worth noting that Five Eyes does not tend to share its signals intelligence with other nations and this includes fellow NATO members where the USA, the UK and Canada are concerned. Indeed, the activities of Five Eyes caused a major storm a few years back when EU member states (at a time when the UK was still a member of the European Union) learned that the UK was benefiting from intelligence gathering by its Five Eye partners that might give Britain an unfair advantage when competing against other EU member states (particularly France and Germany) to win foreign contracts.

As a bonus, the Daily Express article also provided two videos of possible UFO footage. For these and the article please see the following link:MSN​
 
Really interesting interview with an ex-Aussie intel guy who has been researching the MJ12 docs:


Basically, details from the MJ12 docs have been supported by information that was subsequently declassified. In other words, the docs had info that was verifiably classified at the time they were "leaked," including a meeting between Dulles and Kennedy and details about the "Palladium" program (which allegedly involved spoofing radar targets against the Soviets).
 
NASA Launches REAL UFO In JERUSALEM!
Jul 17, 2024 #Hyperspeed 595,054 views
Elon Musk has openly defied the United States government. In a world where there are several unresolved conspiracy theories regarding the existence of UFO’s, Musk has sparked the curiosity of all nations across the globe as it reveals its latest development which is far from a social media app. This new development, a real UFO, has aroused curiosity and the questions being asked are; Did Elon Musk really defy the US government? What are the features of this newly developed UFO?
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A supposed Triangle and Orbs film over Israel

Two hours ago, another group of Type1 Spheres
over Israel. Link in the comments#ufotwitter #uaptwitter #uap #ufox pic.twitter.com/PFu9ujTecG
— Patrick Jackson (@PatrickQJackson) August 16, 2024

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— Patrick Jackson (@PatrickQJackson) August 16, 2024
 
Ca. said:
NASA Launches REAL UFO In JERUSALEM!
Jul 17, 2024 #Hyperspeed 595,054 views


A supposed Triangle and Orbs film over Israel

Two hours ago, another group of Type1 Spheres
over Israel. Link in the comments#ufotwitter #uaptwitter #uap #ufox pic.twitter.com/PFu9ujTecG
— Patrick Jackson (@PatrickQJackson) August 16, 2024

Full Video

link - YouTube
— Patrick Jackson (@PatrickQJackson) August 16, 2024
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I wonder if this is a development of "scramjet" technology, where speeds of up to Mach 9.6 have apparently been achieved in trials - see: Scramjet - Wikipedia. The British, US and Australian defence establishments have been involved in developing this technology over many decades, with NASA getting in on the act too.

Just a few brief comments on the video:

Although Rolls-Royce is traditionally linked with the manufacture of luxury motor vehicles it has been involved with the manufacture of aircraft engines since before WW2 - for example, it produced the renowned Rolls-Royce Merlin engine that powered the famous Spitfire. It is still one of the leading aircraft engine manufacturers in the world. Indeed, it was involved with the development of the engine for the F-35B STOVL variant of the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) aircraft mentioned in the video through the Rolls-Royce LiftSystem (an aircraft propulsion system) - see: Rolls-Royce LiftSystem - Wikipedia. The company also makes modular nuclear reactors for British nuclear submarines. As to the luxury cars division that was sold off in 2003 and is now a wholly owned subsidiary of the German company BMW.

As regards the Tempest new concept aircraft, a sixth generation fighter jet, being developed by Britain, Italy and Japan, there have been rumours that the new Labour government may pull out of the project after the upcoming strategic defence review - for the latest news on the project see: New UK fighter jet programme appears to move forward

The round disc-shaped aircraft shown in the video above puts me a bit in mind of the Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar (see picture below) that was a VTOL aircraft developed by Avro Canada as part of a secret U.S. military project carried out in the early years of the Cold War - see: Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar - Wikipedia
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Supposedly the U.S. Air Force eventually abandoned the project due to unresolved thrust and stability problems. However, some UFO researchers believe the project may have been taken black and continued on in secret. It is worth noting here that the VTOL concept was eventually proven with the successful production of the Hawker Siddeley Harrier, which had been a contemporary VTOL project that also began back in the 1950's. Indeed, I have often wondered whether the Lonnie Zamora incident, which occurred in April 1964 near Socorro, New Mexico, was actually a sighting of an Avrocar type aircraft on secret trials. Afterall, Area 51 is not a million miles away from Socorro. Sergeant Zamora claimed that he saw two people beside a shiny object that later rose into the air accompanied by a roaring blue and orange flame. I don't know about you but a UFO belching out a roaring blue and orange flame seems a bit retrograde to me when you consider the incredible aerodynamic feats that UFOs have displayed to observers since the 1950's, which were generally soundless and unaccompanied by visible flames or exhaust trails. For more see: Lonnie Zamora incident - Wikipedia.​
 
Interesting tweets from Harald Malmgren, ex adviser to 4 presidents (Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford):

https://twitter.com/x/status/1825896655155245285

"'Imminent' a book to be published tomorrow, Aug 20, by Luis Elizondo on what our government knows about UAP, or alien visitors to Earth. This book breaches a dam and I expect will likely be gradually followed by more awakening disclosures ahead.

"60+ years ago I was provided highest level classifications to lead DOD work on nuclear weapons and anti-missile defense. Informally briefed on 'otherworld technologies' by CIA's Richard Bissel (who had been in charge of Skunkworks, Area 51, Los Alamos, etc.) but sworn to secrecy.

"Read the book. Then watch comments of others. Bissell briefed me off the record after his resignation as CIA Deputy Director Specal Ops. I am not seeking public confirmation status - - just telling my personal story. Confirmations will be up to others directly involved, in coming months."

@NietzscheanHobo: "Didn't Kelly Johnson run Skunkworks with Bissell as a key confidant?"
Malmgren: "Some responders to my X messages about Elizondos upcoming book are probing my direct knowledge of government UAP research. I never directly worked on UAPs, nor indirectly used such research in my own work. Therefore, I cannot be treated as a source of confirmation of UAP info."

@Voodoo_ChileJH: "Did you unswear your secrecy?"
Malmgren: "Read my words carefully. I was never directly involved in UAP research. What I learned was sketchy, slightly illuminated by Bissel as he felt I needed a heads up in case the subject ever came up in my meetings with Presidents or others. I swore secrecy to him, not under any law.

"I do not know Luis Elizondo, and have no connection with his book's publication. The contents had been disclosed previously, and I simply thought time has come for the rest of humanity to start thinking about what it means for understanding of the world in which we live."

@igottweets: "[Malmgren is] speaking about an informal briefing where he gave his word he'd keep it secret and he actually hasn't revealed the details here. Not a formal classified briefing with agreements signed. He must see the writing on the wall and doesn't need to keep it secret much longer."
Malmgren: "You have correctly summed up my thoughts."
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