Imminent Alien Disclosure?

[Approaching Infinity]

New Project Gravitaur update. This is going to be amazing:

Reminder: Bob Lazar worked closely with these guys to create accurate 3D models of the entire S-4 facility (the parts to which Bob had access) and the "sport model" craft. In a month or so the documentary should come out, followed by a photo-realistic VR "game" where you can see everything as Bob saw it. Also a book will follow, as well as a die-cast model of the craft.

Overall, a great interview with insights into the process as well as Bob, and some hints of surprises in the film ("hard evidence", whatever that might mean).

 

[lilies]

Bob Lazar worked closely with these guys to create accurate 3D models of the entire S-4 facility

I have a hypothesis-paper to be published here, based on the Rogan - Lazar interview. Specifically detailing a layman idea when they took out the anti-gravity engine modules: why the fuel modules needed to be in a specific configuration. With 3D diagrams. Based on our knowledge of the hyperdimensional realities.
-----Upcoming--

 

[Approaching Infinity]

And this new video directly from Project Gravitaur:

Note this from the description:

We have one more big reveal to announce: We have now received permission to release new, classified information about Bob’s time at S4. This is a significant breakthrough and will shed new light on his story.

My guess is that this might relate to something said in the interview from my post above: regarding his time at MIT. Luigi, the director, says Bob explained to him why there are no records, and that the explanation is convincing. It's just that publicizing such details could put others at risk, which is why Bob has been fine with people thinking he's a liar about his education for all these years. But since they say it is related to his time at S4, maybe it's something completely different.

 

[Alejo]

And another one from Netflix, with George Knapp

Maybe they're timing these with Halloween.

 

[Tuatha de Danaan]

I'm just wondering who financed all this.? Looks like an amazingly difficult process, writing new computer programmes, many tech brains and wages etc.

 

[aragorn]

Reminder: Bob Lazar worked closely with these guys to create accurate 3D models of the entire S-4 facility (the parts to which Bob had access) and the "sport model" craft. In a month or so the documentary should come out, followed by a photo-realistic VR "game" where you can see everything as Bob saw it. Also a book will follow, as well as a die-cast model of the craft.

Overall, a great interview with insights into the process as well as Bob, and some hints of surprises in the film ("hard evidence", whatever that might mean).

Sounds/looks interesting. What are your thoughts of how this film and information should be regarded when we know what the C's had to say about Lazar (see below)?

Session 28 October 1994

Q: (L) Bob Lazar supposedly worked on alien craft retro-engineering?

A: Did but sinister. Involved with questionable types.

Q: (L) His video about working at area 51 and descriptions of propulsion systems and alien craft was or was not truth?

A: Close to the truth. Craft tech: minor points were off.

I guess the answer is, with a grain of salt!

 

[lilies]

While looking for something else, I came across this description of the 'Little People' of the Catawbas tribe of South Carolina. This is a write up from Indian Country Today of the Yehasuri Trail which is part of a historic wagon trail that dates back to 1810.

Must have been weird living with The Little People. Especially when they were boarding alien spacecraft as Jessup's Gipsies are chit-chatting about the Little People via notes. How one came out of the ocean and something was wrong with its invisibility suit thus he was noticed by beach walkers and got embarrassed and disappeared.

New Project Gravitaur update. This is going to be amazing:

Lot of automatic devaluation, dehumanization, declaration of other continent's people as subhumans going on nowadays. Its prevalent in families and between academic versus non-academic people that I observed. This hatred of the dumb merely high school "diploma" holding people, them invading - formerly - academic's peoples companies and how they hate to see dumb no-university-degree-holding people getting assigned to jobs that were previously filled with university degrees holding staff. Loosening of the rules, by CEOs because of greed. Less salaries to be paid out to the dumber population. Compared to high-salary academics. Lowering the Knowledge-Expertise Standard. Dumbing down society toward idiocracy.
- Sheehs! Cannot even talk to these Dumbers about refined topics!

Small UFO chairs:
Were confirmed smaller in size than toddler seats you can buy..

So all this subhumanization - correct from the academic viewpoint, because high schoolers are non STEM and STEM is the basis of a true industrial society - going on, probably not just nowadays, but forever, since humans set foot on this planet. And the film crew describes these almost Lilliputian "chairs" - I was painting the mental picture in my mind of Lizard base workers sitting at a bar and from behind them the two feet tall Lilliputian Small People are walking into the bar. To take a seat and have something strong to drink after an exhausting day at work.. at the same bar, where the Lizard workers are drinking..

Just imagine a 6 ft tall, muscular physical worker [tunnel driller] being angrily told off by a red faced and bellowing 2 ft tall Small People scientist in a white lab coat waving around a bright silver Lilliputian Nerve Pistol measuring an inch in length, but the weapon packs a punch that can flatten the large human worker in two seconds onto the floor to become a convulsing mess.

So I see a serious difficulty of US Senate committee meeting The Small People Nation and the US swamp alligators towering above the tiny aliens and *not* instantly, instinctively devaluing, sub-humanizing them. Before any talks between the two civilizations even begin..

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Sounds/looks interesting. What are your thoughts of how this film and information should be regarded when we know what the C's had to say about Lazar (see below)?

Since we're not trying to build a UFO, getting minor points about the tech wrong won't be a big deal. As for the sinister remark, I covered a bit of that on Substack:

Underground, Underwater, and Trans-Density Bases Part 1

Area 51, Kirtland, the alien interview, and alien bases

cassiopaea.substack.com

 

[tschai]

So I see a serious difficulty of US Senate committee meeting The Small People Nation and the US swamp alligators towering above the tiny aliens and *not* instantly, instinctively devaluing, sub-humanizing them. Before any talks between the two civilizations even begin..

Sounds like a scene from Men in Black

 

[Mike]

I haven't followed this drones at the CIA airbase too closely, but it has taken an interesting turn. What comes to mind, if the reporting below is anyway accurate, is that this supposed infiltration and harassment from 'alien' drones at the base is just meant to show there is possible hostility between the US Gov't and the 'aliens' and is a cover for then actually working together at the higher levels. Although, it could also be the 'aliens' not caring about the impact such a thing could have on their 3D minions.

cryptogon.com » And Now… Chris Mellon Claims Drone Swarms Targeting U.S. Military Bases Are Operated by ‘Mother Ships’

Tell us another one, Chris.
Better yet, can we just get to the main event???

Via: Daily Mail:

A retired, senior Pentagon official has confirmed that UFO ‘mother ships’ were spotted ‘releasing swarms of smaller craft’ — adding further mystery to the still-unexplained intrusions over multiple US military bases.

His statements come amid the release of 50 pages of Air Force records related to provocative ‘drone’ incursions, that one general calls ‘Close Encounters at Langley.’
For at least 17 nights last December, swarms of noisy, small UFOs were seen at dusk ‘moving at rapid speeds’ and displaying ‘flashing red, green, and white lights’ penetrating the highly restricted airspace above Langley Air Force Base in Virginia.
Senior ex-Pentagon security official Chris Mellon told DailyMail.com that the episode was ‘part of a much larger pattern affecting numerous national security installations.’
‘Two of the notable aspects,’ he said, ‘are the fact our drone signal-jamming devices have proven ineffective and these craft are making no effort to remain concealed.’

‘In fact, in some instances,’ as Mellon took pains to emphasize, ‘it is clear they want to be seen as though taunting us.’

 

[MJF]

Well it seems that the King of England and his late mother, Queen Elizabeth II, took a great interest in UFO's according to a new video that is just being released:

King Charles urged to use his 'direct hotline' to President Joe Biden to expose 'the truth about UFOs'​

King Charles has been urged to apply "pressure" on US President Joe Biden to "reveal the truth about UFOs".

Nick Pope, a former employee of the UK's UFO desk, has revealed the many ways in which the British monarch can help the UK disclosure process commence as it did across the pond three months ago, as someone with direct access to the world leader.

In UFO expert Mark Christopher Lee's new film, 'The King Of UFOs', Pope says: "Here is somebody who could pick up the phone and say look here what's going on in the United States. He could ask for a full classified briefing."

The documentary states that Charles can request Ministers for the UK parliament to compile a report if there is ever any unexplained activity in UK airspace as it would be a potential defence and safety issue.

The royal could also gather parliamentary questions much like the US initiated discourse and gather enough momentum to force the Defence Minister to hold a hearing.

Pope claims that the king must be interested in UFOs, as his late [father] Prince Phillip and great uncle Lord [Louis] Mountbatten were.

Lee believes part of the UK government's fears against investigating the phenomena is the "demonic" element to UFO sightings.

The filmmaker recently made the hit Tubi film 'God Versus Aliens', an exploration of "the spiritual implications that first contact would have."

Former Canadian diver Dan Costello was interviewed in the film and claims he worked with the then-Prince Charles on Project Serpico in Nova Scotia in Canada in 1975.

It was a top-secret mission, which saw 12 US astronauts travel to the Zeta Reticuli star system to visit an alien race known as the Ebens.

Costello alleges he saw Charles "pilot an experimental craft that resembled a UFO and was powered by a form of electro magnetism which had a harmful effect on those in close proximity to it."

Further to this, he believes the then-prince's piloting skills "saved the day".

Governments across the world have been accused of hiding the existence of aliens for centuries.

However, in July, there was a breakthrough when a public Congress hearing took place after former intelligence officer David Charles Grusch accused the US government of hiding evidence of "non-human intelligence".

The film will be released on Tubi and Ayozat in November.

View part of Nick Pope's interview from the film here:

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See also: THE KING OF UFOs Official Trailer (2024) Documentary

The director of the movie, Mark Christopher Lee, received a favourable treatment when he was interviewed by GB News Mark Dolan on his Saturday night show this evening in comparison to Lue Elizondo at the hands of Ronny Chieng.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

I haven't followed this drones at the CIA airbase too closely, but it has taken an interesting turn. What comes to mind, if the reporting below is anyway accurate, is that this supposed infiltration and harassment from 'alien' drones at the base is just meant to show there is possible hostility between the US Gov't and the 'aliens' and is a cover for then actually working together at the higher levels. Although, it could also be the 'aliens' not caring about the impact such a thing could have on their 3D minions.

cryptogon.com » And Now… Chris Mellon Claims Drone Swarms Targeting U.S. Military Bases Are Operated by ‘Mother Ships’

UFOs have been doing this to military installations since the beginning. I think it's just a reminder of who's in charge. The military, or at the very least significant factions of its branches, has always been wary of the alien threat.

 

[Voyageur]

Part III is said to strip down and expose Tesla (Nikola), at least Ehret mentioned it in the interview above.

Another installment was posted October 8th, which seems to pick up on the H.G. Wells theme and brings in a cast of characters that many here are familiar with in other contexts, with some mentioned in this thread:

The Hidden Hand Behind UFOs Ep. 3: The New Age of the Sorcerers: UFOs, MK Ultra and the Cold War​

Oct 8, 2024
In this third episode of 'The Hidden Hand Behind UFOs' we reveal the architects behind a new world religion premised around alien deities, psychoactive drugs and psychological warfare. The human-made origins of UFOs are examined with a look towards German and Italian flying saucer programs absorbed into the Anglo-American 'secret science' program after WW2, and also the work of Allan Dulles, Carl Jung, Laurence Rockefeller and other leading CIA/MI6 controllers will be exposed as new sorcerers shaping the UFO disclosure initiatives from 1947 to the present day.

Individual mentions of methods, such as psychoactive drugs and psychological warfare, all have some merit and again, many know about these matters. They know of the British, Dulles, Jung, Huxley, et cetera and furthermore. The Rockefellers and Rothschilds factor, and Tizard and the military men, with quotes like this:



However, the premise seems to be multiple, to compel one to believe that the whole thing is phycological and propaganda, a 3d illusion for the mind of an alternate reality that offers up alien's as an invention and not a reality. 4d hyperdimensional considering is never discussed, and that seems to makes it easier to tell the tale in the way that it is being told - it is all just a grand manipulation by the usual suspects with nothing more to see.

In a way, it is in keeping with the original manipulation of attributing the unknown to swamp gas and what have you, so it is doing that while revealing the hidden hand, which equates to the same thing. The Mithraic mystery cult factors, as does Isis.

Of note, for me anyway, was a little section near the beginning related to Nazi saucers (30's) and later to the US attempts to replicate (50's), were used to deceive and add weight. I don't buy that, yet the interest was in one man. A little sketch is made of Victor Schaulberger (mentioned on the forum), wherein he came into the American post war scientific program, yet then (and had not known this) Schaulberger was brought into Canada's Avro airplane program (some will know of it), and then found out it was to be used as an offence military deliver system and he got out. It sounded like he wanted to go back to Austria, and to do so it suggests his patents were stolen by assigning all rights to an American consortium, or so says his grandson. Victor died 5 days after returning home to Austria, penniless.

The film jumps all over the place, to Gadhafi's Libya and Iran, and American intentions (80's), then back to project project blue book, Area 51 with a whole network of military sites developing narrative, and suggesting their own crafts where being used (nothing concrete is offered).

JFK factors in removing Dulles, Cabell and Bissel (the splintering into a thousand pieces fallout), and then goes on to point out the October 63 NSA Memorandum 263 withdrawal from Vietnam (3-weeks before JFK was taken out), and just prior, on September 20, 1963 at the General Assembly (4-weeks before JFK was taken out), Kennedy makes overtures to Russia for new cooperation in space (he said, in regulation and exploration in space).

It then goes back to Vietnam and the overhaul of the military using Satanists doctrine and mind warfare or "MindWar":


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Star Gate programs et al. (Rockefeller funded). Then it is about group formations of Puthoff, Swann, Vallee (Anton LaVey fits in there somewhere) and Hynek (sound familiar), where Hynek looks to advancing the UN to lead in full disclosure (Rosicrucian's are mentioned in the background):




This film part then gets into the National Institute for Discovery Science - funded by Robert Bigelow of the Bigelow carpet fame, and then Skinwalker Ranch.

To end, there is scant reference to the AATIP program of 2007, which begets Tom DeLonge (Blink 182), congressional member Luna, Grusch, and all the key advisors.

So, in the producers mind, it seems not to be about real UFO's at all - or they are just a means to and end, and the end goal is about a new world religion.

Might have missed some things, yet that seemed to be how Part 3 has played out.

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[MJF]

Another installment was posted October 8th, which seems to pick up on the H.G. Wells theme and brings in a cast of characters that many here are familiar with in other contexts, with some mentioned in this thread:

The Hidden Hand Behind UFOs Ep. 3: The New Age of the Sorcerers: UFOs, MK Ultra and the Cold War​

Individual mentions of methods, such as psychoactive drugs and psychological warfare, all have some merit and again, many know about these matters. They know of the British, Dulles, Jung, Huxley, et cetera and furthermore. The Rockefellers and Rothschilds factor, and Tizard and the military men, with quotes like this:

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However, the premise seems to be multiple, to compel one to believe that the whole thing is phycological and propaganda, a 3d illusion for the mind of an alternate reality that offers up alien's as an invention and not a reality. 4d hyperdimensional considering is never discussed, and that seems to makes it easier to tell the tale in the way that it is being told - it is all just a grand manipulation by the usual suspects with nothing more to see.

In a way, it is in keeping with the original manipulation of attributing the unknown to swamp gas and what have you, so it is doing that while revealing the hidden hand, which equates to the same thing. The Mithraic mystery cult factors, as does Isis.

Of note, for me anyway, was a little section near the beginning related to Nazi saucers (30's) and later to the US attempts to replicate (50's), were used to deceive and add weight. I don't buy that, yet the interest was in one man. A little sketch is made of Victor Schaulberger (mentioned on the forum), wherein he came into the American post war scientific program, yet then (and had not known this) Schaulberger was brought into Canada's Avro airplane program (some will know of it), and then found out it was to be used as an offence military deliver system and he got out. It sounded like he wanted to go back to Austria, and to do so it suggests his patents were stolen by assigning all rights to an American consortium, or so says his grandson. Victor died 5 days after returning home to Austria, penniless.

The film jumps all over the place, to Gadhafi's Libya and Iran, and American intentions (80's), then back to project project blue book, Area 51 with a whole network of military sites developing narrative, and suggesting their own crafts where being used (nothing concrete is offered).

JFK factors in removing Dulles, Cabell and Bissel (the splintering into a thousand pieces fallout), and then goes on to point out the October 63 NSA Memorandum 263 withdrawal from Vietnam (3-weeks before JFK was taken out), and just prior, on September 20, 1963 at the General Assembly (4-weeks before JFK was taken out), Kennedy makes overtures to Russia for new cooperation in space (he said, in regulation and exploration in space).

It then goes back to Vietnam and the overhaul of the military using Satanists doctrine and mind warfare or "MindWar":

View attachment 102658
[...]

Star Gate programs et al. (Rockefeller funded). Then it is about group formations of Puthoff, Swann, Vallee (Anton LaVey fits in there somewhere) and Hynek (sound familiar), where Hynek looks to advancing the UN to lead in full disclosure (Rosicrucian's are mentioned in the background):

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This film part then gets into the National Institute for Discovery Science - funded by Robert Bigelow of the Bigelow carpet fame, and then Skinwalker Ranch.

To end, there is scant reference to the AATIP program of 2007, which begets Tom DeLonge (Blink 182), congressional member Luna, Grusch, and all the key advisors.

So, in the producers mind, it seems not to be about real UFO's at all - or they are just a means to and end, and the end goal is about a new world religion.

Might have missed some things, yet that seemed to be how Part 3 has played out.

Although I haven't watched this interesting documentary yet, I thought I would bring to people's attention an interesting link between Robert Bigelow, Hal Puthoff and Jacques Vallee in case it is not covered in the video.

I am a big fan of the ongoing TV investigative show The Curse of Skinwalker Ranch. Although it is well known that Bigelow bought Skinwalker Ranch (which the C's have confirmed is the location of an underground alien base) and conducted a scientific study of the site on behalf of the US Government (the results of which have never ben publicly released), it is not well known that he also bought another Utah based ranch called the Wilson Ranch at which he carried out scientific studies as well. However, Bigelow was scared to death one night when staying in a local motel by the appearance of a sinister dark figure that loomed over his bed and telepathically told him to stop investigating the area and leave immediately. By all accounts he was so freaked by this episode, he pulled out the next day never to return, subsequently selling the ranch to its current owner. See the attached video link for the background detail and a possible real time sighting or capture of what may have scared Bigelow:

Remember the C's have confirmed that there is an underground 4D STS alien base at Skinwalker Ranch, which has been linked to paranormal phenomena for many years including ghost sightings and what may be window fallers in the form of a large and extinct species of wolves:
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Q: (Approaching Infinity) What is the source of the 1.6 gigahertz signal that shows up on Skin Walker Ranch whenever strange phenomena occur?

A: Breaking of dimensional curtain and leaking of energy.

Q: (L) Okay, now we're on page three...

(Approaching Infinity) On the ranch, the team have reportedly detected caves underground near the mesa and a vertical structure within the mesa, which they cannot drill through. The drill bits come out undamaged, suggesting that the material they are striking is frictionless. They suspect it is metallic. Also, the direction of the drilling attempts suggests the structure is convex on the bottom and top with a tower of some sort extending almost to the top of the mesa. During one drilling attempt, they detected radio transmissions when the drill bit was in contact with the structure. What is the structure?

A: Part of underground 4D STS base.

Could the Wilson Ranch and its environs be linked to similar phenomena too?

The Curse of Skinwalker Ranch has now spawned a spin-off show called Beyond Skinwalker Ranch and one of the target sites they have investigated is the Wilson Ranch where some think Bigelow was searching for a crashed alien craft. Although a LIDAR drone spectacularly malfunctioned when they tried to take underground readings of the test site, the investigators then resorted to more old fashioned technology by using a long conductive wire linked to a voltmeter to detect any electrical readings coming from underground in the target site known as the Lower Meadow. This test produced astounding results since the readings indicated that there was a large metallic object buried underneath the meadow which gave readings between 100 ft and 200 ft below. Subsequently, they followed this up by using an old school video projector left behind by the Bigelow team to shine light patterns at the ground in the meadow to see if it might induce any anomalous readings on their sensor equipment. As you can see from the attached video it did in the ultra lower frequency range:

The electrical readings the investigators had obtained suggested that if there was a buried space craft down their it might be winged shaped like a manta ray, which strangely coincided with what the ranch owner understood was down their. This intrigues me since the Native Americans used to refer to the UAP's as Thunderbirds:
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Q: (L) {Reading} The Gottschalk Rock Shelter shows the story of Red Horn Giants and the Thunderbird. What is this story depicting? What does the Thunderbird depict?
A: UFO.
Q: (TB) If we were to identify the Unidentified Flying Object, what would it be?
A: STS craft.

Now bearing in mind that the Wilson Ranch is not far way from Skinwalker Ranch where the C's say an underground 4D STS base is located into which the Skinwalker Ranch investigators have seen UAPs descending, it is not that great a stretch to think that one of these manta ray shaped craft (a Thunderbird) from that base could have crashed at, and been buried in, Lower Meadow on the Wilson Ranch.

However, what really surprised me was an old photograph of Robert Bigelow standing outside the Wilson Ranch House in the company of Hal Puthoff and Jacques Vallee.

Puthoff was an accredited engineer. In 1960, he was commissioned as an officer in the US Navy, where, assigned to NSA, he worked on improving computer speed using optical technology. In 1963 Puthoff joined Stanford University working on lasers and non-linear optics, gaining a PhD in electrical engineering in 1967. He then worked with, and invented, tuneable lasers and electron beam devices, for which he held patents. He was co-author of Fundamentals of Quantum Electronics. Hence, it is easy to see why Bigelow may have brought him onboard with the Wilson Ranch investigation. His links with the US Navy intrigue me though since this may have allowed him to become aware of the Philadelphia Experiment (see more below).

Puthoff took an interest in the Church of Scientology in the late 1960s and reached what was then the top OT VII level by 1971. However, Puthoff would eventually severe all connections with Scientology in the late 1970s. This involvement in Scientology also intrigues me though since the founder of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard, like Puthoff, served in the US Navy and supposedly had been involved with US Naval Intelligence for a while during WW2. Hubbard was a close friend of Jack Parsons, a leading American rocket fuel engineer, who founded the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) that works closely with NASA and is heavily involved with the optical devices on the various NASA Mars orbiter missions, where it frequently covers up unwelcome revelations of what is really on Mars. Both Parsons and Hubbard were also involved with the self declared magus (who revelled in the title of the most evil man in the world) Aleister Crowley when they joined his Ordo Templi Orientis. Crowley himself was alleged to have been a British spy working on an off for British Military Intelligence (MI6) and when residing in America during WWI, he was observed by US Military Intelligence to have been scouting around Montauk, then a US Army base, which would later be linked to covet research work arising out of discoveries made from the US Navy's Philadelphia Experiment. This leads me to wonder just how far back in time the underground base at Montauk may have been involved in secret research.

Jack Parsons actually gets a mention in the transcripts along with L. Ron Hubbard, which curiously links them both with Carl Jung, the long time friend of CIA chief Allan Dulles:
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Session Dated 9 June 2018:

Q: (L) Was Carl Jung possessed after his extensive therapeutic encounter with Otto Gross?

A: Not at that point, but later, yes.

Q: (L) Possessed by what?

A: 4D STS.

Q: (Pierre) How did he get possessed?

A: Asked for it.

Q: (Joe) Was he into some kind of mysticism or black magic or cultism as it was called?

A: Yes, though it was not called such.

Q: (L) Who was that guy that was hooked up with L. Ron Hubbard? He was kinda similar. He was involved in space projects. Does anybody remember his name?

(Niall) [Jack] Parsons.

(L) Yeah, Parsons. So, was it similar to what Parsons and his bunch was doing? Sex magic and all that?

A: Yes, and there was Jungian influence there too.

Q: (L) Well, is it accurate or correct to derive from this Jungian business some of the philosophical or psychological foundations of the current American liberal postmodern movement?

A: Indeed!

Q: (L) So some of Jung's ideas of the anima and animus and the hermaphroditic nature of the soul and so forth were foundational to the current liberal paradigm of sexual fluidity?

A: Yes. And notice well that this conflicts directly with objective reality.

Q: (L) Well, according to the postmodernists, there is no objective reality. They say that everything people think is completely culturally conditioned, and one truth is no more true than another truth or whatever.

A: That will backfire tragically. Think "Tower of Babel."

Q: (L) So, in other words, this whole postmodernist conception of there being no objective truth is similar to the attempt to build a Tower of Babel?

A: Yes.

And as the C's have told us elsewhere, the CIA have been busily promoting the new sexual order:

A: The gay "movement" is a CIA program incepted by 4D STS designed to set up antipathy, differences, and to identify individuals for purposes of inflicting further suffering.

In 1972, Puthoff joined Stanford Research Institute (SRI) in Menlo, California, in the electronics and bioengineering laboratory. There he worked on quantum physics and parapsychological phenomena, notably the government-funded remote viewing program known as Star Gate, which he co-founded and co-directed, investigating the purported ability to retrieve visual information from distantly located sites by ESP. Puthoff collaborated with Russell Targ extensively throughout the program, carrying out tests with psychic viewers such as Pat Price (who discovered the underground alien base in Alaska) , Ingo Swann and Joe McMoneagle.

Many today think the Stanford Research Institute is in fact a CIA front. I don't know if Puthoff had any involvement with the channelling sessions of 'The Nine' or 'Council of Nine' but supposedly SRI scientists participated in them These channellings were originally run by a medical doctor named Andrija Puharich who turned out to be a chemist who worked for the CIA and was also involved in the infamous MK Ultra project. Together with the infamous Dr Sidney Gottlieb, Puharich experimented with a variety of techniques to change or induce actual thought processes… even to creating the impression of voices in the head. These techniques included the use of drugs, hypnosis and beaming radio signals directly into the subject’s brain. And, significantly, he was engaged in this work at exactly the same time that The Nine made their first appearance at the Round Table Foundation. The Foundation itself is now known to have been largely funded by the Pentagon as a front for its medical and parapsychological research.

Puharich would also achieve international recognition as a parapsychologist who in 1971 discovered Uri Geller in Israel. Puharich was still working for the CIA in the early 1970s, when he brought Uri Geller out of Israel to America. He would subsequently collaborate with Russell Targ in a study of Geller's purported psychic abilities. Geller incidentally had his own links with Israeli military intelligence.
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According to Terence Hines:

Geller turned out to be nothing more than a magician using sleight of hand and considerable personal charm to fool his admirers. The tests at SRI turned out to have been run under conditions that can best be described as chaotic. Few limits were placed on Geller's behavior, and he was more or less in control of the procedures used to test him. Further, the results of the tests were incorrectly reported in Targ and Puthoff's Nature paper.

For more see: Plan Nine From Outer Space - Uri Geller

Intriguingly, the Council of Nine did become something of a New Age cult and therefore could be viewed as an attempt to institute a New World Religion based around the Ennead or the Nine Ancient Gods of Egypt centred on Heliopolis and the Temple of Ra, the Egyptian sun god, which reminds me of something the C's once said - Q: Well why did it turn into Sun worship instead of Moon worship? A: Future honour of Ra. Go 353535. Deity.

Indeed, one individual who became deeply involved in the Nine Channellings was TV producer and Rosicrucian Gene Roddenberry. Roddenberry was part of the Nine circle in 1974 and 1975, and even produced the screenplay for a movie about The Nine. How much he was influenced by them is unknown, although it is said that some of their concepts found their way into the early Star Trek movies and Star Trek The Next Generation and Star Trek Deep Space Nine TV series, the latter especially being full of references to the Nine material.

It is also interesting that Uri Geller should become indirectly involved with the early Cassiopaean Forum, as mentioned in the session dated 11 July 1998, which also referred to scientist and renowned UFO researcher Jacques Vallee and coincidentally to the Philadelphia Experiment:
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Q: (L) Uri Geller sent an e-mail to the mail list recommending that people visit Brother Blue's web site for info on the Aviary. Then he says that he has personally known and been involved with these 'birds.' Anyway, there is this whole deal going on with Vallee being caught in a lie on the mail list. Are they trying to assassinate him or is he really a bad guy?

A: Vallee is not sticking to the "program."

Q: (L) What is the program that Vallee should be sticking to?

A: You do not get it, apparently.

Q: (L) Well, he produced this witness who supposedly debunked the Philadelphia Experiment, and Vallee put his reputation behind this. Then, another guy came along and ripped Vallee up and it made him look bad.

A: The bottom line: The Philadelphia Experiment did happen.

Q: (L) Then what program is Vallee not sticking to? Why did he produce this witness? Why is he doing this?

A: Bad influences.

Q: (L) What kind of bad influences?

A: 33.

Q: (Jan) 33rd degree?*

*Session 16 October 1994:

Q: (L) I would like to know what is the origin of the Freemasons?

A: Osirians.

Q: (L) Can you tell us when the original Freemasons formed as a society?

A: 5633 B.C.

Q: (L) Is Freemasonry as it is practiced today the same?

A: 33rd degree, yes.

Q: (L) So, there is a continuing tradition for over 7 thousand years?

A: Yes.

A: That is close enough.

[MJF: N.B. The Illuminati, who are linked with the mysterious Quorum, operate at the 33rd degree and above, and are the upper echelons of Freemasonry according to the C's:

Q: (L) How do the Masons relate to the Illuminati?
A: Masons are low level branch.]

Q: (L) So, maybe the Consortium got next to him, read him the riot act, and wanted to use his reputation to plant their disinformation, and he responded by doing it in such a way that his reputation is now in tatters and CAN'T be used by them? (T) So, they tried to compromise him and he did something so that it would be obvious that he was being compromised?

A: More complex.

Q: (A) I want to know about this Uri Geller. Why is he now writing this stuff about this Consortium?

A: The term "Consortium," in this case, originated with us.

Q: (L) Okay, he is talking about this Aviary. Has, or is, Geller associated with this Aviary?

A: No.

Q: (L) Is he trying to get publicity?

A: Close.

So, the fact that Hal Puthoff and Jacques Vallee were involved with Robert Bigelow's investigations at the Wilson Ranch looking for a crashed spaceship, and presumably were also involved in Bigelow's investigations at Skinwalker Ranch on behalf of the US Government, may just show how complex Vallee's relations with the Consortium and the US Military/Industrial Complex may have been. If the UFO issue is not real, then why would accredited scientists like Hal Puthoff and Jacques Vallee have been wasting their time with Robert Bigelow on searching for a crashed UFO at the Wilson Ranch? ​

 

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If the UFO issue is not real, then why would accredited scientists like Hal Puthoff and Jacques Vallee have been wasting their time with Robert Bigelow on searching for a crashed UFO at the Wilson Ranch?

Vallee has written several books about UFOs and is probably one if the most respected UFO researchers. So his interest in a potential crashed UFO is kind of obvious.

Hal Puthoff has been involved in "fringe research" like remote viewing for a long time too. Despite having security clearances and such, he has been relatively open on topics like crashed UFOs and reproducing alien technology. Lately he has been privately examining fragments of materials that are supposedly of extraterrestrial origin. So he is a UFO researcher (with government connections) as well.

On a different topic, I also like the TV show documenting the current research into the Skinwalker Ranch - it's called "The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch", not "The Curse of". Some truly fascinating research results there, which we talked about in this thread.