Imminent Alien Disclosure?

[tschai]

Suppose, though, to them we are just like animals to abuse, which is far from being benevolent when it is consumable sustenance they seem to need from us.

Do we consider the essence of the creatures and plants we consume for food, the pain they endure? Even though we know it is necessary for our survival, we often do not. But recently it is becoming increasingly apparent, from this thread and others and articles I read. So, a lesson for us? Yes, I think so. The Mantis was merely pointing out, if the story is true- we and they are not so different after all.

 

[Ricardo]

Aside physical differences , they are @tschai , only way "out" of 3rd is to choose , they have.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Do we consider the essence of the creatures and plants we consume for food, the pain they endure? Even though we know it is necessary for our survival, we often do not. But recently it is becoming increasingly apparent, from this thread and others and articles I read. So, a lesson for us? Yes, I think so. The Mantis was merely pointing out, if the story is true- we and they are not so different after all.

And this raises some philosophical questions such as Laura deals with in the Wave. Because, yes, they have a point, which many on this forum and the Cs have made repeatedly. From a certain perspective, aliens and psychos aren't "evil", they are STS. And humans in general are STS. In that sense, "aliens" aren't so different. We eat animals. They eat us. But that is a nuanced position when presented in full, and without that full context, the idea that "they're like us" transforms into projecting our perceived good qualities onto them, which amounts to making excuses for them.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Off the top of my head, here's how I'd categorize them. Some may fall into different categories if they were asked to clarify, but this is based on their public statements so far. Any others I missed?

• All Aliens Are Awesome: Greer and associates, possibly Barber
• A few bad apples: Blitch, Sands, Herrera
• Neutral: Many of the scientists and mil/intel folks who haven't publicly offered an opinion one way or the other (e.g. Puthoff, Logan, Nell, Mellon, Gallaudet, Green, Lacatski, Kelleher, etc.)
• Indifferent to malevolent: Grusch, Elizondo, Stratton, Nolan, Davis
• Bad news: Tom DeLonge, and by association the people close to him: the TTS folks (Semivan, Elizondo, Puthoff, Mellon), Gen. McCasland, etc.

Here's Ryan Bledsoe saying DeLonge and Mellon, via TTS, wanted to make a movie about Bledsoe, but the catch was that it needed lizzies that eat people. That would remove Mellon from "Neutral" and confirm him a place of honor in "Bad News".

https://twitter.com/x/status/1885043392398463192

Based if true.

 

[Andrian]

Here's Ryan Bledsoe saying DeLonge and Mellon, via TTS, wanted to make a movie about Bledsoe, but the catch was that it needed lizzies that eat people. That would remove Mellon from "Neutral" and confirm him a place of honor in "Bad News".

https://twitter.com/x/status/1885043392398463192

Based if true.

While watching the Joe Rogan podcast with Sands and Logan, Sands did mention that the reptilians were perceived by some as dangerous, a fact that inspired him to lean closer to the Bible and God.

So while listening to it i've got this crazy idea, what if the lizzies will be depicted at some point in the near future as the evil ones on purpose, and the Nordics as the saviors or protectors of humanity, as in the Bible where the Angels (who btw are resembling suspiciously too much to the Aryans or the Nordics) are slaying the serpent/demon.

I mean, the monotheistic religions were inspired by 4d STS, who knows if at that stage the 4d STS hadn't had already in mind the priming of the people's collective consciousness in a distant future where the Angels (depicted by the Nordics/undergrounders) will defeat the Serpent (the lizzies/reptilians) thus gaining the people's trust. A very cunning trap, if you think about it.

I know how it sounds, a bit nuts, though nowadays with all the crazy stuff happening out there, who knows...

Just a few thoughts.

 

[tschai]

the idea that "they're like us" transforms into projecting our perceived good qualities onto them, which amounts to making excuses for them.

And that is the overarching difference- the 4th Density STS are so by choice- we here on 3rd Density are STS but for the most part have not yet chosen our final orientation. When the Earth transitions to 4th Density, those who are ready will have the opportunity to choose. This is one of the lessons we should take with us to help us decide.

 

[Fluffy]

And this raises some philosophical questions such as Laura deals with in the Wave. Because, yes, they have a point, which many on this forum and the Cs have made repeatedly. From a certain perspective, aliens and psychos aren't "evil", they are STS. And humans in general are STS. In that sense, "aliens" aren't so different. We eat animals. They eat us. But that is a nuanced position when presented in full, and without that full context, the idea that "they're like us" transforms into projecting our perceived good qualities onto them, which amounts to making excuses for them.

I can’t see any of them giving thanks and praise for the meal that gave its life to sustain theirs.

 

[Ricardo]

( slightly off-topic but ) sts will eat it's own tail to ever maintain course , that's why intent matters, soo ... yes and no fluffy ?

 

[Pat]

While watching the Joe Rogan podcast with Sands and Logan, Sands did mention that the reptilians were perceived by some as dangerous, a fact that inspired him to lean closer to the Bible and God.

So while listening to it i've got this crazy idea, what if the lizzies will be depicted at some point in the near future as the evil ones on purpose, and the Nordics as the saviors or protectors of humanity, as in the Bible where the Angels (who btw are resembling suspiciously too much to the Aryans or the Nordics) are slaying the serpent/demon.

I mean, the monotheistic religions were inspired by 4d STS, who knows if at that stage the 4d STS hadn't had already in mind the priming of the people's collective consciousness in a distant future where the Angels (depicted by the Nordics/undergrounders) will defeat the Serpent (the lizzies/reptilians) thus gaining the people's trust. A very cunning trap, if you think about it.

I know how it sounds, a bit nuts, though nowadays with all the crazy stuff happening out there, who knows...

Just a few thoughts.

Not a crasy idea. It came into my mind as possible too.

 

[SasaM]

I know how it sounds, a bit nuts, though nowadays with all the crazy stuff happening out there, who knows...

Well, if the C's statements about 4D STS going back and forth in time to set things for their own benefit is true, then what you say is not nuts at all, or even not nuts enough.

Who is to say with certainty that some time manipulation didn't happen or won't happen, there's a slight issue with verb tenses when talking about these kinds of things, from the point of view of what we perceive as future in the 1-dim linear time, while the consequences of that particular manipulation we've already been experiencing? Similar to when the C's said that maybe some of our future lives could be in fact our past lives.

And regarding the Nordics slaying Lizzies for a convincing display of their intentions, again if the C's statement that some 4D STS Nordics have Lizzies as their pets is true, I see no reason why a 4D STS being would hesitate to use in whatever manner deemed needed its pet for its plans. Not that they would care, right?

 

[Mark7]

Here's a curveball. Chris Bledsoe, the North Carolina contactee who thinks aliens are benevolent angels, had this to say recently:

He doesn't seem quite up to date about the recent paradigm shift toward friendly, or at least non-hostile aliens in the 'disclosure' community. Weird.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Off the top of my head, here's how I'd categorize them. Some may fall into different categories if they were asked to clarify, but this is based on their public statements so far. Any others I missed?

• All Aliens Are Awesome: Greer and associates, possibly Barber
• A few bad apples: Blitch, Sands, Herrera
• Neutral: Many of the scientists and mil/intel folks who haven't publicly offered an opinion one way or the other (e.g. Puthoff, Logan, Nell, Mellon, Gallaudet, Green, Lacatski, Kelleher, etc.)
• Indifferent to malevolent: Grusch, Elizondo, Stratton, Nolan, Davis
• Bad news: Tom DeLonge, and by association the people close to him: the TTS folks (Semivan, Elizondo, Puthoff, Mellon), Gen. McCasland, etc.

I'm moving Barber into "a few bad apples", after this latest video:

At the timestamp he mentions some bad stuff associated with other crash-retrieval teams, and earlier he points out that even if he thinks his own experiences have been good, for all he knows, it could be 50/50. At point he also mentions the extradimensional hypothesis, and thinks UFO pilots might be biological drones controlled by an external consciousness.

 

[Voyageur]

Do we consider the essence of the creatures and plants we consume for food, the pain they endure? Even though we know it is necessary for our survival, we often do not. But recently it is becoming increasingly apparent, from this thread and others and articles I read. So, a lesson for us? Yes, I think so. The Mantis was merely pointing out, if the story is true- we and they are not so different after all.

And this raises some philosophical questions such as Laura deals with in the Wave. Because, yes, they have a point, which many on this forum and the Cs have made repeatedly. From a certain perspective, aliens and psychos aren't "evil", they are STS. And humans in general are STS. In that sense, "aliens" aren't so different. We eat animals. They eat us. But that is a nuanced position when presented in full, and without that full context, the idea that "they're like us" transforms into projecting our perceived good qualities onto them, which amounts to making excuses for them.

Should have added to the original, because as Approaching Infinity said, and Laura had, through the C's, made simple and implicit,

Q: (L) Does it hurt a plant when we eat it?

A: Does it hurt you when a "Lizzie" eats you?

Q: (T) Yes, you see, on 4th density... we are on 3rd density and we eat 1st and 2nd density, the 4th density eats us. (D) If we hurt plants by eating them like the Lizzies hurt us when they eat us, how are we to survive without eating?

A: When you no longer crave physicality, you no longer need to "eat."

And the way of STS, in this respect it may seem, is to eat, because we 'crave' physicality. However:

Q: (L) Okay, let me try to ask it this way: Is the fact that we eat meat detrimental to us spiritually?

A: Absolutely not.

Q: (L) But I would say that just the eating of meat is not a spiritual issue at all. (Perceval) Eating food is a thing of the body. (L) Yeah, I mean we just try to eat in an optimal way to give our bodies the right fuel so that we can do our other work. That's our whole thing is to give the body optimal fuel.

A: There is the difference, see? You eat for optimal fuel, they eat to support an illusion.

There is much on eating food in the transcript, but this thread is not the place for it, although your point @tschai was well brought up. The C's also state that 1st and 2nd density have mechanisms to deter (toxins, running away, sharp teeth and claws etc.), but it is hard for us when 4th density STS simply swoop in out of hyperdimensional space and scoops/beams/tans dimensional atomic remolecularization us out of existence.

Not nice stuff.

 

[Ruth]

( slightly off-topic but ) sts will eat it's own tail to ever maintain course , that's why intent matters, soo ... yes and no fluffy ?

IMO, STS eventually destroys itself because that is the 'highest' (maybe one should say 'lowest'?) expression of entropy. But it consumes and destroys everything around it as well, before it destroys itself. So... is the intent of a 3rd density being going to matter to a 4th density being? No, probably not. Does the intent or wishes of a 2nd density being matter to a 3rd density being? With the exception of people who own pets, probably not.

 

[Alejo]

And this raises some philosophical questions such as Laura deals with in the Wave. Because, yes, they have a point, which many on this forum and the Cs have made repeatedly. From a certain perspective, aliens and psychos aren't "evil", they are STS. And humans in general are STS. In that sense, "aliens" aren't so different. We eat animals. They eat us. But that is a nuanced position when presented in full, and without that full context, the idea that "they're like us" transforms into projecting our perceived good qualities onto them, which amounts to making excuses for them.

Good point,

But at that point.. the best thing to do IMO would be to present the situation as truthfully as possible, which is something akin to "Aliens consume us, and they experiment with us because they can, since they're stronger and more advanced and more aware of reality" and then the philosophical discussion can take place, but it should start there.