The Situation in Mexico

[Puma]

Also, note for Alex Jones: the words 'Communist' and 'China' don't have such a negative connotation in Mexico as they do in the US. Sheinbaum is a leftie but I don't think anyone seriously considers her a communist.

A picture is worth a thousand words. As a presidential candidate, Sheinbaum met with Fink and discussed the "Mexican moment" to attract investment. As president, Sheinbaum welcomed Fink to the National Palace and they discussed the strength of the Mexican economy, the USMCA, and development plans such as "well-being hubs" for investment in infrastructure and technology.

Larry Fink has never visited Cuba or Venezuela, which the opposition in Mexico uses as examples of communism and danger, saying that we will become like Venezuela.

Claudia Sheinbaum is a moderate/pragmatic left-wing politician with strong social policies, but she operates within a regulated capitalist system rather than a neoliberal or libertarian one (like Bukele and Milei, for example) and seeks to attract private investment. Claudia Sheinbaum is not a communist in the ideological, economic, or political sense. That accusation by the opposition (mainly the PAN and conservative sectors) is a rhetorical exaggeration used as a political weapon.

Was the Gen Z movement truly organic?

Carlos Zenteno, political scientist and editorial director of the digital media outlet El Soberano, states:
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Let's break down with data and without fanfare where the November 15 (15N) march really came from, because it did not arise from a genuine youth movement, nor was it born out of spontaneous outrage, nor was it a protest, nor is it an organic protest of the so-called Generation Z. No, what we have before us is a coordinated operation financed and amplified by national and international right-wing political, business, and media actors, and it all began long before the march was announced.​

On October 3, "Azteca Noticias" published a report in which it attempted to present global youth protests but curiously focused on a single figure, Carlos Bello, an influencer with no political background who suddenly appeared criticizing the government in the Chamber of Deputies.​

October 7, Ricardo Salinas Pliego, owner of TV Azteca and one of the main business opponents of the 4T, shares this influencer's video. The signal is clear: they are building a new youthful face for a political narrative.​

October 12, this influencer announces that a march is being organized without a cause, without a date, without demands. A typical technique for raising expectations.​

October 15, the @generación z_mx account on X uploads an image with the One Piece flag, a symbol that has been used in youth protests in other countries, but the account is not organic. It was created in 2024, remained inactive for a year, and previously amplified anti-leftist messages in Venezuela, Ecuador, and throughout Latin America. It is not a Mexican youth movement, it is an account linked to international right-wing networks.​

On October 16, the Mexican Revolutionaries account appears, opened just on October 12, immediately launching more than 10 videos generated with artificial intelligence calling for a march to demand the revocation of the mandate. A Generation Z demanding the revocation of the mandate, but without explaining why, absurdly artificial.​

On October 19, the account "somos generación z mx" (we are generation z mx) emerges, the third leg of the same ecosystem. They open Instagram and TikTok on the same day with the One Piece flag, videos with artificial intelligence, and a website with a forum on Discord. Important detail: on their Instagram was a link to "salvemos la democracia" (let's save democracy), an initiative by Claudio X González (another elite opposition figure). There was no youth movement, but there was political coordination with the traditional opposition. After the call to action, the data is compelling:​

179 TikTok accounts began posting on the fly, 50 of which were created in October or November 2025. 359 Facebook communities began promoting the issue starting on October 26. Of those 359 pages, 28 had foreign administrators and these communities talked about travel, memes, anime, video games, cooking, tourism, and suddenly they all began posting against the 4T and in favor of this artificial march. The communities were not born; they were bought, audiences were rented. This is not youth organization; it is paid political marketing.​

The discourse was peaceful march and the revocation of the mandate, but on October 27, simultaneously, the pages and accounts began to spread images of the National Palace on fire generated with artificial intelligence. This is not protest; it is symbolic provocation. And then, after what happened with Carlos Manso, the entire network changed its script. What was a march for revocation became, overnight, a march for insecurity.​

This did not happen spontaneously; it was a coordinated change of narrative, typical of structured digital campaigns. ​

On November 1, the original creator of the youth digital community (Gen Z Mexico), Iván Mero, publicly denounced that the version of Generation Z calling for the march was not his and denied any links to accounts linked to the PAN and PRI. He broke with the manipulation and called for a completely different march, unrelated to the one on November 15, calling it the first official mobilization.​

This proves something obvious: the November 15 march was not called by young people; it was hijacked by political networks, and that is what is serious. PAN and PRI members, former leaders, and spokespeople for the right began to amplify the march. (Vicente Fox, Claudio X González, Alessandra Rojo de la Vega, PAN influencers)​

The use of the youth flag by a PRI legislator who attacked Noroña was even documented. In fact, there is no youth movement without politicians behind it. Here, the politicians came first and then sought out young people.​

The analysis is compelling. Salinas Pliego promotes the movement's leading influencer, his media company amplifies the content, and his cousin Roberto Salinas, who heads Atlas Network, uses this international network of right-wing think tanks that has operated against progressive governments in Peru, Bolivia, Argentina, Brazil, and Mexico.​

Added to this is the presence of figures such as:

Javier Negre, director of La Derecha Diario, who was clearly invited to the country by Ricardo Salinas.

Fernando Cerimedo, Milei and Bolsonaro's digital operator, an expert in bots and, best of all, disinformation.

Agustín Antonetti of the "Fundación Libertad" (Freedom Foundation), promoter of anti-left narratives in the region and someone completely obsessed with anti-communism.

Eduardo Menoni, a Venezuelan far-right, anti-left activist with networks in Miami.​

The November 15 march is not local, it is not youthful, it is not spontaneous; it is part of an international strategy against progressive governments.​

Independent analyses estimate that in October and the first days of November alone, the cost of this operation exceeded 90 million pesos, which explains the sudden appearance of hundreds of accounts, the massive use of artificial intelligence, the purchase of entire communities, the coordinated activation of influencers, and the synchronized narrative. The 15N march did not originate on TikTok, Discord, or youth forums. It did not arise from the genuine discontent of a generation. It is a political operation designed, financed, and amplified by national and international right-wing networks that seek to disguise themselves as a citizen movement by using youth symbols and hired influencers, artificial intelligence, and the purchase of digital farms.​

A mobilization that aims to simulate spontaneity, but which left traces at every turn: newly created accounts, synchronized activations, opposition spokespeople, business support, and massive financing. What we are seeing is not an organic protest, but rather a carefully constructed political communication strategy designed to destabilize, manipulate emotions, and generate an artificial perception of strength.​

The good news is that the data allows us to clearly dismantle the narrative, and when the facts are broken down, the truth becomes evident: the artificial march on November 15 was manufactured, the movement was never youthful, and the protest was never spontaneous. It was an operation, and it was exposed as such.​

Eduardo Verastegui, an ultra-conservative, ultra-far-right Catholic who maintains close ties with both Donald Trump and J.D. Vance, took the opportunity to issue a warning.​

"Only the patriotic, Guadalupan far right will be able to remove from power the sinister forces that have hijacked Mexico.
Sorry... the ultra, ultra right.
And if you want to add another ultra, go ahead.
@CumbreVivaMX
Long live Mexico!"

A sinister force that has the support of 70% of the population, but not the blessing of Washington.

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[mabar]

I think the protests were genuine in the sense that most people in there were genuinely upset because of the crime and insecurity. The organizers, I don't know, but it is kind of suspicious that they are using the 'Gen Z' emblems as in other places. Feels fabricated. The violent part of the protests, I don't think was organic at all. I mean, you would need to be pretty motivated (with cash?) to go and start punching riot policemen. I don't see average citizens doing that, especially in a protest which wasn't really that large.

I heard several interviews to those who were at the march, many complaining about insecurity, drug trafficking, about the president, whom they say does everything wrong and whom they are fed up with. Not so different from the opinions expressed at other protests organized by almost the same opposition figures.

I don't deny that they are angry and afraid; family members listen to opposition media and feel similarly.

But seeing so many people wearing hats and images alluding to the anime One Piece, and knowing that the march was hijacked (Puma's post above)... I don't know, it reminds me of the protests that took place during the pandemic, where the organizers called on people to attend by car to maintain social distancing, and many wore masks inside their cars... Is not that something is off, is just like a pattern.


It was supposedely of Generation Z but there were few young ones. This in contrast to the one on November 8, when young people predominated.

There was a Generation Z protest at other states as well, in Guadalajara, Jalisco, where the angry hooded men whom were unable to break down the door of Casa Jalisco (Governor's residence) went to the downtown center to unleash their unhealthy energy on to the Government Palace.
Jalisco is being governed by a different political party as the country is.
Have not checked out about other states.

 

[Puma]

So far from God and so close to the US​

During the November 15 march, a very small number of protesters openly called for US intervention, whether military or political, against the government of Claudia Sheinbaum and Morena Party.

There are photos of banners with messages such as "Trump save Mexico," "S.O.S USA," and "Intervention now" in english, clearly aimed at foreign audiences. Pro-opposition networks in the US (armed civilian and ultra-conservative groups) circulated calls beforehand saying things like "It's time for Trump to order massive air strikes against narco-terrorists in Mexico" and "Make Mexico Great Again."

In this video elderly man states:​

Because we are defenseless against the government, against the army, against the navy, against the representatives, against the senators, against the judiciary, we are defenseless, we have to ask for help from Trump, who is our neighbor...​

Is the United States interested in destabilizing Mexico?

Journalist and political scientist Jesús Escobar mentioned in an interview.
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Why didn't the United States seek to overthrow López Obrador? Because they would set the country on fire, because the people would have risen up. Literally.​

What does that system like? The system likes to generate controlled chaos, not to generate a people that rises up. A people that rises up is not controlled chaos, it is a real challenge to a state. Therefore, they are not going to provoke an immersion of that type, but they can provoke a level of instability that causes even the population to seek to remove a government.​

As we are seeing, there are useful idiots, no offense intended, just a description, such as Salinas Pliego, Alejandro Moreno, Lili Téllez, Ricardo Anaya, and various commentators and opinion makers, who are playing into the hands of the United States by creating a coup scenario, a scenario of chaos, a scenario of completely uncontrolled drug trafficking, a scenario where people believe they are in the worst of times and the worst of episodes.​

These groups begin to operate locally. They try to convince citizens that Sheinbaum's government is a failure. So, what they are looking for is for the people, the citizens, to be the ones who start complaining because the government is not capable of dealing with a situation.​

That plan doesn't give Salinas Pliego or the others the means to put it together. That's created by an ambassador like Ron Johnson, who is an expert in all that. He wants a state like El Salvador, a policy that reaches that level, like in El Salvador, which we already experienced in Mexico. And it didn't work at all. But he wants it too.​

And he knows full well that Sheinbaum is not the right person for that [to be controllable like Bukele]. Ron Johnson can seek that, creating enough chaos so that you yourself, as a citizen, begin to doubt your leaders.​

What keeps Sheinbaum free from many things and gives the president strength to negotiate with Trump? The affection of the people, the security of the people. People are convinced that Claudia will defend them.

How do you undermine their credibility? How do you weaken a leader? There is a concept that the United States has been using for a long time, which is psychological warfare, hybrid warfare. In psychological warfare, the most important thing is not to defeat the enemy with bullets, but to colonize them mentally and culturally so that the people are defeated as such.

When is a people defeated? When an invading army enters? When your leaders are damaged, when your leaders are discredited. When you stop believing in those leaders.

How do you achieve that? By undermining their credibility. And that is what they are trying to do today. As one of the first steps, they are creating the idea that Sheinbaum is incapable, that it is a dictatorial government, that she will betray you. That Trump has already broken her.

Why? So that you, as a society, begin to doubt that leadership. That is what they are doing right now, and that is what they are looking for. That is why I would give you that answer to the question, why don't they do it? Because it is not in their best interest to do it the way you would think.

I don't see the U.S. military marching through Mexico City, nor do I see drones. I don't see planes flying, but I do see targeted killings. I do see drone strikes to create that psychosis at the moment.

The logical thing is that It's not in the US's interest to put its trading partner in check. But the big question is, does Trump have logic?

The following news is being taken by groups opposed to Sheinbaum as a declaration that Trump's aid is on the way.
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I am not happy with Mexico: Donald Trump​

Donald Trump, president of the United States, said he was unhappy with what the government of President Claudia Sheinbaum is doing to combat drug trafficking, adding that although he is not planning to take military action in Mexico, he would do so if necessary.

"Whatever we have to do to stop the drugs, I'm not saying I'm going to do it, but I would be proud to do it... let me put it this way: I'm not happy with Mexico," concluded the U.S. president.

For now, the Department of War has allegedly carried out military attacks against suspected narco-terrorists in international waters in the Caribbean and the Pacific, and as a deterrent, it has deployed the aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford and an entire strike force.

Since September 2, the Southern Command has destroyed 21 vessels in the Caribbean and Pacific, extrajudicially executing 83 people who were traveling on them, allegedly transporting narcotics destined for the U.S. market.

No estoy contento con México: Donald Trump

“Cualquier cosa que tengamos que hacer para detener las drogas, no estoy diciendo que lo voy a hacer, pero sería un orgullo hacerlo...”, dijo el presidente de Estados Unidos.

www.proceso.com.mx

I think all of this is also part of this puzzle.​

 

[Adobe]

Here is an article on Trump's recent discussion of Mexico in English from RT:

Trump ‘OK’ with launching strikes in Mexico​

“They’re killing our people. That’s like a war. Would I do it? I’d be proud to.”

"Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum has repeatedly said US military action in Mexico without her consent will not happen"

"He refused to say whether he would seek Mexico’s permission"

Trump ‘OK’ with launching strikes in Mexico

US President Donald Trump has said he is open to ordering strikes in Mexico to fight drug smuggling

www.rt.com

 

[Windmill knight]

Here's a summary and balanced view of a journalist who lives in Mexico, interviewed by Redacted:

They noticed the thing of alternative media making it sound like there's a civil war or revolution going on, which is just not true.

 

[Navigator]

What a difference between Redacted and Alex Jones, is Jones even interested in the facts on the ground? Have an informed assessment of the dimensions of the protest? Does he questions if there are provokers?

I say this because he thinks January 6 was a Fed operation, conducted by the Deep State. How come he doesn't at least entertain the idea in this situation?

But just hold on, he does, he doesn't discard CIA involvement, but this time is OK. Here are some fascinating quotes from the guy in the below post on X.

• Don't give credit to the CIA, Mexico's been revolting for a long time
• [Showing a picture of the plaza] That's gotta be 500,000 right there. Its all over Mexico
• [Trump] has done that, he's cutting the CIA drug money, he's going after the Democrat's piggy bank
• This is real, and [Trump] is backing the people of Venezuela and Mexico that are under tyranny and total election fraud

I don't even know where to start with this.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1990272960654189034

 

[Puma]

Fortunately, this forum exists for people of good will who seek the truth, but there are millions out there who believe Alex Jones' lies. David Icke has reproached him for selling his soul to the Deep State by unconditionally supporting Trump (military invasions, internal repression, "kicking down doors" without due process, etc.)

Alex Jones is part of the media that presents itself as an alternative but actually serves the system now by dividing people into "left vs. right."

I think these color revolutions are yet another attempt by globalizers, and I wouldn't rule out the possibility of them reaching the United States. It also reminds me of what Laura wrote in her article "Independence Day "
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The other morning, I woke up with the thought circling around in my head: The present global craziness is like a Trojan Horse - a vehicle that carries the instruments of destruction. So many people are like a deer paralyzed in the hunter's headlights - fascinated by the display and completely unaware of the destruction that is imminent.​

This thought did not appear out of nowhere and for no reason. It was the result of many days of deep thinking and discussions here at Signs Central. What initiated those discussions is what I want to talk about here: the possibility of global destruction in the wings and that the political machinations on the planet are designed to divert our attention from the clues and signs that this is imminent.​

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[mabar]

I don't even know where to start with this.

He is doing on purpose, providing an erroneous perception of what is really going on.

Saw this video in which Manuel Pedrero and Poncho Gutièrrez commented on and analyze Saturday's march. They are pro-government or pro-4T, they have a different view of the elephant. As they both say, the opposition was looking for blood in the zocalo square, so they made things up and shaped people's perceptions, adding fuel to the fire.


Here (around minute 53:47) Poncho Gutiérrez responds to a comment that was sent to them: “When they kill your family, I want to see how you do live on air with a stupid look on your face defending ClauDIAZ Ordaz” --- comparing the movement of 1968, when under the government of Diaz Ordaz many young people died in a protest that was suppressed by the military and militias.

"I respectfully invite you to oppose the 4T with your brain and not with your gut. There is much to criticize about the 4T, and I believe that if there were a decent opposition, we would all be criticizing the 4T, saying that it's good that they are getting their act together and that it's good that they are getting rid of the corrupt, that's good.


We have spoiled children, politically illiterate people full of hatred and ignorance, misinformation, shouting like baubins, with all due respect to the baubins, and they are being manipulated in a grotesque way like no chairo has ever been manipulated in history... and these same people say that the chairos are the ones being manipulated.


Not only is it ironic, it's funny and sad, but it's also dangerous because these people have been convinced that anyone who contradicts them is being paid by drug traffickers, is laughing at the victims, is a bloodthirsty insensitive person, and the day they do something to them, they asked for it and well, it's justified."

The usual, if you are not with me, you are my enemy.

Note: chairo s a pejorative slang term used to describe an individual who holds far-left political ideologies or more precisely from opposition POV a person who voted for, favors ... the former president (AMLO) or the actual one (Claudia Sheinbaum).

 

[mabar]

And to add more fuel to the fire, a new Generation Z march was planned for Thursday, November 20th, the day that commemorates the anniversary of the Mexican Revolution with a civic-military parade, which has been held since 1936. It begins at 10 a.m. from the Zocalo to the Monument to the Revolution, and Generation Z will march at 11 a.m. from the Angel of Independence to the Zocalo.

 

[Puma]

Comparing Sheinbaum to Diaz Ordaz makes no sense. In fact, groups affiliated with the opposition began posting memes on social media showing Sheinbaum with Diaz Ordaz's facial features. Claudio X González and Ricardo Salinas Pliego have been the main promoters of this idea. The opposition effectively wants people to die so that the world can see it.

In the social media war, pro-4T responses were quick to follow, with one comment hitting the nail on the head. It showed former president Diaz Ordaz with the caption "in my day, you would have been mourned by now."

This is the level of discussion on both sides. The student movement of 1968 has nothing to do with the quasi-utopian movement of Generation Z. Even among them, there are those who protest because Sheinbaum raised taxes on Coca-Cola and video games. There were influencers who asked young people, "OK, we get rid of Sheinbaum, and then what?" "Who do we put in her place?" Most young people didn't know what to say, and others responded with things that were quite nice but utopian for the geopolitical context we are living in.

Here are some things that happened in 1968

●Mexico was authoritarian under the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI), and the country lived under a single-party regime. It was what was known as the "perfect dictatorship." New research indicates that Gustavo Diaz Ordaz was a CIA agent.
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One of the compelling pieces of information provided by the academic is the relationship between Díaz Ordaz and Winston Scott, an officer of the Central Intelligence Agency who served as station chief in Mexico City from 1956 to 1969. "Winston Scott became a confidant of at least two former presidents of Mexico, Adolfo López Mateos and, undoubtedly, Gustavo Díaz Ordaz. Winston became the second most important man, after Ordaz, during his six-year term."​

"Díaz Ordaz was on the CIA payroll. There are many interpretations, but we can see it clearly; according to a CIA document, Díaz Ordaz served as an agent." Diaz Ordaz estaba en la nómina de la CIA​

● Police repression and military invasion of high schools and the National Autonomous University of Mexico (UNAM)

● The movement was mainly composed of students from the National Autonomous University of Mexico (UNAM), the National Polytechnic Institute (IPN), and teacher training colleges. They were young people from middle-class and working-class backgrounds, with strong leadership from the National Strike Council (CNH)

●The movement demanded: democratic freedoms, an end to repression, the repeal of the crime of social dissolution, public dialogue, and punishment for those responsible for police violence. The movement was Anti-authoritarian and left-wing.

● The Díaz Ordaz government saw it as a communist conspiracy and ordered the October 2 massacre in Tlatelolco (an estimated 300-400 dead), in which shock troops such as the Olimpia Battalion, the army, and paramilitary groups participated. Hundreds of people disappeared and were imprisoned.

Without a doubt, the group opposing Sheinbaum wants a repeat of the events of 1968. For its part, the general population is beginning to demand a crackdown on the Black Bloc vandals. Who will give in first?
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