Venezuela Situation: US Declares War on 'Narco-Terrorism'

[Alma.Innovadora]

That makes sense, but I think it would be unlikely that the government doesn't know about the various criminal groups. The government would also have an interest in not advertising the reality of the drug-smuggling operations by publicizing the fact that many poor Venezuelans either choose or are coerced into working for drug traffickers.

That's exactly how you mention it. The government of course knows everything just think wrong and you will be right, very simple: "as long as no one is watching, nothing has happened." The problem too is not "knowing" it is locating them, especially when there are high positions involved, even mayors, governors and other networks, which do not necessarily have to be from the political opposition.

And if the population of that area, benefits from it, Stockholm syndrome.

Therefore, there are also Venezuelans who are captured and probably even killed by the same state security agencies in some confrontation in the various operations they carry out. I'm sure they're going to want to control that information and even be selective with families now.

 

[Alejo]

So basically the CIA.

Yes, just doing a simple search for Carvajal, he strikes me as another one of those guys in Venezuela who push the US narrative to give it some legitimacy. He's being quoted all over the MSM in the US as saying that there's drugs and weaponized gangs and so on. He's the guy that the media can point to and say "see? it's Venezuelans themselves saying it, not us..." Which is also a very old trick.

Not saying that Maduro is some sort of saint, he's not. But ironically, Chavez and then Maduro represent to Venezuelan people what Trump does for the working class citizens of the US a political leader that they feel connected with and not a distant carrier politician who plays the game of the deep state, even if it hadn't been articulated as such back when Chavez became president.

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

For further extorsions or negotiations, whatever is called when ever is needed?

Like a double agent?, maybe or maybe he just wanted to play spies on his own because of his position. That is to say, this guy participated in very shady things both on one side and on the other. If he was captured in Spain, he would negotiate with Spain, and so on. The more information he could get, that would be his your currency of exchange when he was accused of something, outside or inside the country, but always waiting to be rescued by the USA.

He doesn't seem like someone very intelligent to me. That kind of "quack made in Venezuela" there are many.

As it has also been shown that historically, there are guys playing for both sides. Carvajal could easily only tell those interested in Venezuela, a single part of the truth, which is convenient to also take care of their back. Especially if those involved in Venezuela do not know the true scope of the machine they have to be implicated later without knowing how.

Besides, as Beau suggests, it must be investigated thoroughly, sif they can know something, even if they are not the ones directly involved, but for 5 minutes of fame.

Typical corrupt drama. The only heaven he has earned, has been to fly to the United States by the intelligence of Spain.

"I am writing to atone for my sins by telling the whole truth, so that America can protect itself from the dangers I witnessed for so many years".

EE.UU, doesn't need to be "saved" by this guy.

Information is power and this man does business with it. We just don't know what percentage of lie and truth mix to create something believable. And in the United States they do that too, they create something "believable enough" to be able to act. Besides, all these guys always go to live in Spain first. So the Pollo was sold by their own bosses. He started "collaborating" with the USA, only after he was captured.

But!, Rome does not pay traitors.

Putting aside all the paraphernalia about the Aragua train and the Cartel of the suns, which is more than all the sensationalism that has been more publicly accepted, he says interesting things that if they are not exposed, I think it is because it also serves the United States to use it against others because in the hypothetical case that Trump or any president in the United States or another country, knows the extent of easily inducing in the world manipulating the votes, I don't think he would be so foolish as to remove these machines and make the world a more "democratic and transparent" place.

I do not rule out that I may know important things, it was not two days in the government and if even someone like me has been able to know sensitive things because precisely, who works for the government, sooner or later knows things before they explode, I cannot doubt even these guys.

But so far, it just looks like a chicken that couldn't escape the plucker, and tries to save its neck.

 

[SummerLite]

Looks possible to me. The one thing arguing against it is that Byrne et al. have been trying to push this info for years now, and haven't had any success. Dominion's lawsuit against Byrne is still going through court, and Robinson is the first journalist to cover his story. Politicians, agencies, cabinet members, media, etc. - no one has wanted to touch it. Russiagate, by contrast, was catapulted onto the airwaves by all of those groups.

I've also heard this whole scenario of Venezuela being involved in the rigging of the 2020 election for a few years now. I think its a matter of timing. There wasn't the correct opportunity to present this information before now but now its time. I expect there will be a lot more coming out. Robinson is disappointing. Many people are proving themselves to be recently.

One other possibility is that the Venezuela angle is overblown, but the core facts are correct and no one wants to touch it because exposing the fraud of so many elections would delegitimize hundreds if not thousands of elections over the past decades. No one wants that. In his book, Pezzulo claims Byrne et al. had access to the engineers that wrote the Smartmatic source code, and they demonstrated for them how it works, replicating one of the stolen county elections from 2020. If even just that element is true, it's pretty damning.

Yea, it's a giant can of worms implicating a lot of people to put it lightly. I notice in the field of comments when a new topic emerges that people start talking about, bringing attention to. Right now the CIA is being focused on all of a sudden. In a better world one could imagine it's time to expose all that and give them the boot. Eventually everything will be exposed to the larger population I suspect.

 

[axj]

Although China has stock piled, taken control of rare minerals, built up their military, advanced around the world, they are totally dependent on buying their oil from other countries, their weak spot. If they lost this they'd be shut down quite quickly.

China gets only 7% of its oil from Venezuela, most of it comes from the Middle East and Russia. And the transport from Venezuela to China is actually shorter through the Atlantic and Indian oceans than through the Panama canal and the Pacific.

Right now the CIA is being focused on all of a sudden.

Is it really? It looks like the CIA is continuing playing its games and pushing its narratives in the media. It is in fact "former CIA operatives" who are pushing the "Venezuela stole our election" BS currently:

Trump’s DoJ investigating unfounded claims Venezuela helped steal 2020 election

Exclusive: Discredited election-rigging conspiracy theory could strengthen Trump’s military action against Maduro

www.theguardian.com

 

[irjO]

Not saying that Maduro is some sort of saint, he's not. But ironically, Chavez and then Maduro represent to Venezuelan people what Trump does for the working class citizens of the US a political leader that they feel connected with and not a distant carrier politician who plays the game of the deep state, even if it hadn't been articulated as such back when Chavez became president.

Precisely, Maduro is as “saint” as Trump is a “saint”. The parallelism between the two is big, both represents the people’s will in their own way. Technically is the “best” there is to represent people’s will under the circumstances. The difference is that Trump is way better at making deals than maduro that’s for sure. But Maduro is a bit smarter on who to trust and it’s not egoistic as Trump is, or at least from what I’ve seen.

 

[SummerLite]

China gets only 7% of its oil from Venezuela, most of it comes from the Middle East and Russia. And the transport from Venezuela to China is actually shorter through the Atlantic and Indian oceans than through the Panama canal and the Pacific.

Shutting down 7%, if accurate, could also send a message even if only a dint in China's oil supply. The Atlantic looks to be shut down by the US fleet at the moment. There has also been proof China has helped with the US invasion by building camps and sending Chinese nationals to S America that ended up in the US. Human trafficking including children has now been added to the list for V.

I notice in the field of comments when a new topic emerges that people start talking about, bringing attention to. Right now the CIA is being focused on all of a sudden

Is it really? It looks like the CIA is continuing playing its games and pushing its narratives in the media. It is in fact "former CIA operatives" who are pushing the "Venezuela stole our election" BS currently:

Sometimes I have intuitive flashes which I pay attention to and a grassroots look at the CIA is one that happened recently. Over the last 4 years I've learned to pay attention more and develop my intuition because it's become a more trusted guide in current events then so much BS thats circulated. We'll see if anything comes of it. The Guardian article is slanted to the disproven claim the 2020 elections weren't stolen. Claiming some judge said the Venezuelan influence was false is a red flag considering the judicial system has been captured by the DS. We can expect a ton of sh*t dumping on these claims. I'll have a look at the proof and the other witness testimony if we are fortunate to hear it.

 

[SummerLite]

There has also been proof China has helped with the US invasion by building camps and sending Chinese nationals to S America that ended up in the US.

Check out the videos in this article. These are mainly young Chinese men being sent. Do a search on Yandex for many articles on the subject much of this was reported by Michael Yon.

Chinese Communist Military-Age Men Are Invading the USA

While the US Senate looks... to spend billions in borrowed dollars from China to mend the borders of other nations, Chinese Communists...

www.independentsentinel.com

 

[axj]

Shutting down 7%, if accurate, could also send a message even if only a dint in China's oil supply. The Atlantic looks to be shut down by the US fleet at the moment. There has also been proof China has helped with the US invasion by building camps and sending Chinese nationals to S America that ended up in the US. Human trafficking including children has now been added to the list for V.

I do not remotely buy this "Chinese boogeyman" narrative - it seems to be an attempt to get MAGA people to see China as the enemy instead of the deep state.

Is there any indication that Chinese illegal migrants have been "sent" by China? Or are they simply doing it on their own? They are mostly young men, but that tends to be the demographic that illegally crosses into Europe too. Probably because it is too dangerous for women.

The US is illegally interfering in Venezuela under false pretexts. If anyone needs to be 'sent a message' it would be the US.