Session 24 January 2026

Thanks so much Laura, Andromeda and all the team for another amazing session.

But, most of all, thanks for sharing it with us. :hug2:






It would have been interesting to have the idea of the C's on the fact that music changed from a frequency of 432 Hz to 440 Hz around 1950 or what is the best frequency for humans?



It may be better.
But know one thing.
Many proponents of this idea argue 432 hertz produce prettier patterns on water.
This is not true, the patterns depend on several factors, including on the container size. One can make pretty water cymatic patterns at 440 hertz as well.
It's largely misleading this viral image comparing patterns at 432 and 440 hertz.
 

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The discussion on electronic music has been very interesting on this thread. About 20% of my album collection is electronic stuff; ambient, trip-hop, some mild techno, drum n bass. It is usually very high energy music, but yeah, not particularly transcendent stuff. I'll not be ditching these records, but I'll only give them a listen if I'm in the right mood.

Also I've been wondering about various keyboard instruments. There's the Hammond Organ, Vox Continental (I'm a big fan of Ray Manzarek of The Doors) and even the Mellotron, which uses tape samples of traditional instruments, and has a very distinctive sound. Needless to say, I'll be listening to my albums with fresh ears from now on, and attempting to discern which types of music appeal to me the most. And what about funk artists like Stevie Wonder? His albums from the 70's are sensational, but he uses a ton of Moogs on his work. Damn, this is a minefield...:umm:
 
After hefty session of praising I want to deduct something out of the chosen speaker name of the C´s : "Koelia"
"Koelia" (orkoelia) is derived from the Greek word for "abdomen" or "belly" (kolíak)

Makes me think about maybe something related to indigestion, consecuences about what has been happening around holy land and everywhere else by the same perpetuaters. And all the things wrong about the global system etc. If you know you know , its all so viceral.

Funny, because this winter's flu season is affecting people's digestion big time. There seems to be a residual irritable bowel syndrome that has everyone on some sort of restricted diet, at least temporarily.

A: Pray without ceasing. The universe is very aware. Goodbye.

After the session ended, there was a mention of Gurdjieff's self-remembering as a way of self-awareness, pray without ceasing. Here's a brief recap from Ouspensky's "In Search of the Miraculous".

"Identifying is the chief obstacle to self-remembering. A man who identifies with anything is unable to remember himself. In order to remember oneself it is necessary first of all not to identify. But in order to learn not to identify man must first of all not be identified with himself, must not call himself 'I' always and on all occasions. He must remember that there are two in him, that there is himself, that is 'I' in him, and there is another with whom he must struggle and whom he must conquer if he wishes at any time to attain anything. So long as a man identifies or can be identified, he is the slave of everything that can happen to him. Freedom is first of all freedom from identification.

"The process of evolution, of that evolution which is possible for humanity as a whole, is completely analogous, to the process of evolution possible for the individual man. And it begins with the same thing, namely, a certain group of cells gradually becomes conscious; then it attracts to itself other cells, subordinates others, and gradually makes the whole organism serve its aims and not merely eat, drink, and sleep. This is evolution and there can be no other kind of evolution. In humanity as in individual man everything begins with the formation of a conscious nucleus. All the mechanical forces of life fight against the formation of this conscious nucleus in humanity, in just the same way as all mechanical habits, tastes and weaknesses fight against conscious self-remembering in man."

And of course, there's always the classical one from Madame de Salzmann - The First Initiation:

You will see that in life you receive exactly what you give. Your life is the mirror of what you are. It is in your image. You are passive, blind, demanding. You take all, you accept all, without feeling any obligation. Your attitude toward the world and toward life is the attitude of one who has the right to make demands and to take, who has no need to pay or to earn. You believe that all things are your due, simply because it is you! All your blindness is there! ...

You live exclusively according to "I like" or "I don't like," you have no appreciation except for yourself. You recognize nothing above you-theoretically, logically, perhaps, but actually no. That is why you are demanding and continue to believe that everything is cheap and that you have enough in your pocket to buy everything you like. You recognize nothing above you, either outside yourself or inside. That is why, I repeat, you have no measure and live passively according to your likes and dislikes.

Yes, your "appreciation of yourself" blinds you. It is the biggest obstacle to a new life. You must be able to get over this obstacle, this threshold, before going further.

This test divides men into two kinds: the "wheat" and the "chaff." No matter how intelligent, how gifted, how brilliant a man may be, if he does not change his appreciation of himself, there will be no hope for an inner development, for a work toward self-knowledge, for a true becoming. He will remain such as he is all his life.

The first requirement, the first condition, the first test for one who wishes to work on himself is to change his appreciation of himself. He must not imagine, not simply believe or think, but see things in himself which he has never seen before, see them actually. His appreciation will never be able to change as long as he sees nothing in himself. And in order to see, he must learn to see; this is the first initiation of man into self-knowledge.

... If he sees one time he can see a second time, and if that continues he will no longer be able not to see. This is the state to be looked for, it is the aim of our observation; it is from there that the true wish will be born, the irresistible wish to become: from cold we shall become warm, vibrant; we shall be touched by our reality.

Today we have nothing but the illusion of what we are. We think too highly of ourselves. We do not respect ourselves. In order to respect myself, I have to recognize a part in myself which is above the other parts, and my attitude toward this part should bear witness to the respect that I have for it. In this way I shall respect myself. And my relations with others will be governed by the same respect.

You must understand that all the other measures - talent, education, culture, genius-are changing measures, measures of detail. The only exact measure, the only unchanging, objective real measure is the measure of inner vision. I see - I see myself - by this, you have measured. With one higher real part, you have measured another lower part, also real. And this measure, defining by itself the role of each part, will lead you to respect for yourself.

But you will see that it is not easy. And it is not cheap. You must pay dearly. For bad payers, lazy people, parasites, no hope. You must pay, pay a lot, and pay immediately, pay in advance. Pay with yourself. By sincere, conscientious, disinterested efforts. The more you are prepared to pay without economizing, without cheating, without any falsification, the more you will receive. And from that time on you will become acquainted with your nature. And you will see all the tricks, all the dishonesties that your nature resorts to in order to avoid paying hard cash. Because you have to pay with your ready-made theories, with your rooted convictions, with your prejudices, your conventions, your "I like" and "I don't like." Without bargaining, honestly, without pretending. Trying "sincerely" to see as you offer your counterfeit money.

Try for a moment to accept the idea that you are not what you believe yourself to be, that you overestimate yourself, in fact that you lie to yourself. That you always lie to yourself every moment, all day, all your life. That this lying rules you to such an extent that you cannot control it any more. You are the prey of lying. You lie, everywhere. Your relations with others - lies. The upbringing you give, the conventions - lies. Your teaching - lies. Your theories, your art- lies. Your social life, your family life - lies. And what you think of yourself - lies also.

But you never stop yourself in what you are doing or in what you are saying because you believe in yourself. You must stop inwardly and observe. Observe without preconceptions, accepting for a time this idea of lying. And if you observe in this way, paying with yourself, without self-pity, giving up all your supposed riches for a moment of reality, perhaps you will suddenly see something you have never before seen in yourself until this day.

You will see that you are different from what you think you are.

You will see that you are two.

One who is not, but takes the place and plays the role of the other. And one who is, yet so weak, so insubstantial, that he no sooner appears than he immediately disappears. He cannot endure lies. The least lie makes him faint away. He does not struggle, he does not resist, he is defeated in advance. Learn to look until you have seen the difference between your two natures, until you have seen the lies, the deception in yourself. When you have seen your two natures, that day, in yourself, the truth will be born.

 
Thank you very much for another wonderful session.

The comments from the Cs about artificial music were particularly enlightening. Personally, I feel considerable discomfort with content created using artificial intelligence.

Many musicians and artists have expressed concern about the increasing use of artificial intelligence in the music industry and how it is displacing composers, producers, and instrumentalists, as the technology becomes more sophisticated and renders these roles obsolete, since a simple algorithm can achieve the same results.


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You have to be careful what you buy though because a lot of the sounds are computer generated not human generated.

When it comes to digital pianos, there are two schools: sampled and modeled. "Sampled" is a recording of an actual piano whereas "modeled" is 100% math. I found this three year old video to be very helpful in explaining the two and how difficult it is to even make a sampled piano sound like an analogue piano in a digital environment. This understanding could also help with buying VST plugins.

 
(Joe) Can I ask just some yes or no questions on more like on a political topic before you get into that? What is the likely outcome of a new US-Israeli attack on Iran?

A: Not good for Israel.

Q: (Joe) What was the reason the US called off its attack on Iran last week, at the last minute?

A: Call from informant.


Q: (L) When you say informant, that means you're not willing to tell us who called?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) It means people on the ground who were organizing protests, probably, had decided that it wasn't a good time. Because they had all these protests and they were planning to do their bombing campaign, but then the protests didn't work out very well, it seems.

(L) Yeah, from what I heard, they were able to block Starlink.

(Joe) Was that a factor?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And if they were able to block Starlink, maybe that indicates to us where the call came from...

(Niall) Kremlin.

(L) Probably the Kremlin, yeah. All right.

So Israel wants the US to bomb Iran's nuclear sites at Isfahan and Natanz again? What would be the use?
Or do they have knowledge of any real nuclear storage sites somewhere deep under the mountains that even the latest bunker busters would not be able to hit?

I'd guess Mossad has, but have they been telling the Netanyahu government?
If these people are close to the apex of the power pyramid then in whose service are they really?

Can these 'llluminatics' keep Israel afloat much longer especially with 'mad Bibi' in charge?
A major economical crisis and the US could lose its clout so Israel would be gone with the wind.

Who still needs Israel for what other than a mass human sacrifice?
 
Funny, because this winter's flu season is affecting people's digestion big time. There seems to be a residual irritable bowel syndrome that has everyone on some sort of restricted diet, at least temporarily.



After the session ended, there was a mention of Gurdjieff's self-remembering as a way of self-awareness, pray without ceasing. Here's a brief recap from Ouspensky's "In Search of the Miraculous".





And of course, there's always the classical one from Madame de Salzmann - The First Initiation:

Thank you Laura, the Chateau crew and all who participated and also to this great forum, the whole discussion here is fabulous.

Thank you Gaby for these excerpts too, when I first read "pray without ceasing" I was reminded of the quote from the C's (28 September 2002 Session):

Q: [Laura asks for door to be opened as she feels great heat.]

A: Life is religion.

Q: (L) What does that mean?

A: Life experiences reflect how one interacts with God. Those who are asleep are those of little faith in terms of their interaction with the creation. Some people think that the world exists for them to overcome or ignore or shut out. For those individuals, the worlds will cease. They will become exactly what they give to life. They will become merely a dream in the "past." People who pay strict attention to objective reality right and left, become the reality of the "Future."
 
I never cared for electronic music, maybe because I'm from the classic rock generation, before it was "classic" and now called "grandpa rock." :-D

There was an instrumental song that came out in 1973, called "Tubular Bells" by Mike Oldfield that just gave me the creeps so much that I still can't listen to it. It was used on the soundtrack for The Exorcist, which I didn't even realize until I looked it up just now. I don't know that it's "electronic music," just creepy and reminds me of some of that trance stuff. :shock:
 
There was an instrumental song that came out in 1973, called "Tubular Bells" by Mike Oldfield that just gave me the creeps so much that I still can't listen to it. It was used on the soundtrack for The Exorcist, which I didn't even realize until I looked it up just now. I don't know that it's "electronic music," just creepy and reminds me of some of that trance stuff. :shock:

The Exorcist, aaargh!:scared:Always hailed by film buffs as a classic of the horror genre, and I have always hated it, it's a horrible film. As for Mike Oldfield, I think he'd consider himself a progressive rocker; not really electronic, but it is a very precise, processed sound he uses in his music, and like you I'm not a fan. But this discussion has really opened up a whole can of worms for me in terms of reappraising my entire record collection. By the mid 60's most bands were using instruments which were in some shape or form artificial/electronic in terms of organs, electric pianos and clavinets. And by the early 70's Moog synthesizers were on most albums by the prominent bands of the time. Even reggae for chrissakes! And I'm not ditching my Bob Marley albums, no way!:lol:

But yeah, it's gonna be really interesting discovering just how much of my cherished collection has "anti-human" elements...
 
(Gaby) On 15 December 2025, Nuno Loureiro was shot in his home in Brookline, Massachusetts. He died in hospital the following day. A plasma physicist from Princeton, he was the director of MIT's Plasma Science and Fusion Center and a faculty member in the departments of Nuclear Science and Engineering and Physics. Why was Loureiro killed?



A: Triggered program of "jealousy".

Q: (Niall) So was his killer indeed the gunman at Brown University?

A: Yes

Q: (Gaby) But did he know something critical at this juncture of time? Because other than an agent of chaos being triggered and killing him, ultimately it was that. It was nothing that he knew...

(L) Oh, well, I don't think that's what they said. They said a program was triggered. So obviously they wanted him killed.

(Joe) Why was he killed?

(Gaby) Why?

(L) I don't know. Are you asking me? [laughter]

(Niall) No, the Cs!

(L) Okay, so why was he killed?

A: Getting too close to veiled topics.

Q: (L) So somebody would have to read his work and see what he was working on.

(Gaby) He was mentioning the magnetic pole shift and how it's related to ice ages.

(Niall, Joe, Gaby) Was it for that?

A: Close.
They were recently talking about this on Rogan’s podcast.

 
Wow, that was quite unexpected. Then again, these days you can expect just about anything. Now it looks like I'll have to dig out my old music notebook and make my fingers remember how to play the accordion after almost 30 years without practice :-D
Actually, after the session, I checked my Yandex Music playlist and found at least 30% of the tracks are purely AI-generated. And I had no idea there were already so many of them in the charts! :nuts:
It's not that unexpected, anyone interested in music has probably encountered rockers who weren't into techno. I'm not talking about Pink Floyd, Queen, Radiohead, or even Linkin Park. These are people involved in production, sound, piano and guitars. The same goes with rap - old-school sampling funk and jazz, introducing scratching and live instruments, unlike new, artificial sounds and autotune. Pop and labels simplified the music, starting to use algorithms and repetitive tones. The question of recordings: are they analog or modern, based on simplification and rounding the sound? I think that where there's creativity, it can be okay. But when AI comes along, allowing you to generate any song, with lyrics and vocals, and people deluding themselves that they're creators, we'll be screwed. Enough people are already fascinated by AI, using it as a background or theme for their YouTube videos. The music in supermarkets is artificial. Playlists and commercial stations don't have to be so bad - they repeat the same songs, but many of them are gems. Generally speaking, this discussion has been going on among music fans for a long time.

Returning to the Moon.
From 2021 onward, the US government has consistently used the term Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, which had already been in use since around 2017. Searching for "UFO" online mostly turns up older material.
In 2023, David Grusch, an American whistleblower, told the House of Representatives about non-human bodies recovered from crashed craft. According to his own statement, he based this on accounts from around 40 witnesses.
In the Mexican parliament, Jaime Maussan presented "alien bodies", which the Cassiopaeans described as being made of dough (?).
NASA says it has no knowledge of aliens, while at the same time setting up a team to study similar phenomena. They called it the Independent Study Team - a bit of a cliché. The terminology later shifts toward Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena, so there's no need to keep adding "transmedium" when observations involve, for example, underwater cases - or possibly even space.
In 2024, the Pentagon's All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office reported many new observations. This is, of course, happening in an era of rapidly advancing space technology and drones. (I've personally seen modern drones behaving much like the objects from Close Encounters - just smaller, but giving the same impression in the sky). 21 cases were described as unexplained. The term UAP is used here as well, with "anomalous" at its core.
In 2025, George Knapp presses Congress for greater transparency. Navy personnel and pilots also testify.
I'm not sure how much of this buzz is connected to China's presence on the Moon since 2019.
Today I watched a program about UFOs - predictably arguing that everything is explainable. For example, birds flying over a city with light reflecting off their bellies. Weather balloons were also mentioned, an explanation that’s been around since Roswell, which came up as well. I last heard that explanation when something coming from Ukraine crashed in Poland. So it's still considered a good one.
 
I remember writing about Susumo Ohno, geneticist and father of epigenetics, in the thread Music, Sound, and Resonance #84 . As part of his research and in order to understand the origins of the genetic code and the machinery of its translation (language), Ohno developed a code in which he found many unique patterns of internal periodicity in various genetic sequences and somehow managed to translate them into the musical octave scale. Since then, DNA sequences and DNA-encoded proteins have been translated, creating musical scores based on the characteristics of protein amino acids.
From this, it can be inferred that the harmony and coherence established in the biological atonality of DNA, cells, and the body are correlated with the vibrational frequencies that resonate externally and that, in my understanding, our body behaves like a metronome or an oscillator that synchronizes with others in collinearity (isochronism).

A: Electronic music is antihuman.(...)

A: It has not been helpful. It is enticing. It is often lovely. But it is still having a negative effect on the cells.(...)

A: Messes with cellular vibrations and intracellular communication.(...)

I believe that much of contemporary music is predictable and addictive, especially the experience of electronic music, which is particularly appealing because the body oscillates and the mind succumbs to the rhythmic metallic” sound that, depending on who is conducting the orchestra (DJ), can put people into a synchronized trance, thus bending their will. If this is accompanied by lights and images, it can become a “magical and shamanic” experience. Not to mention the effects, drugs, drinks, and a very Luciferian “Las Vegas” style context.
This is how people end up like sheep in a sheepfold in areas that become energy sinks and, sometimes, cannon fodder, which reminds me of Morpheus in The Matrix when he says “underground”: This is sion, and we are not afraid, and then ends up at a rave.

On the other hand, and in view of what has been said in this great session, and especially what has been mentioned by the Cassiopeans above, I show this with the intention of raising awareness and appreciating the subtlety, enchantment, and captivating nature of it. Please take the time to view it as you see fit:

DJ Set Padre Guilherme - Cristo Redentor - Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - (16.01.2025)

A: Pray without ceasing. The universe is very aware. Goodbye.
 
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The Exorcist, aaargh!:scared:Always hailed by film buffs as a classic of the horror genre, and I have always hated it, it's a horrible film.

This has got me wondering about another horror movie luminary from the late 70's, the Halloween director John Carpenter. His films really were scary and popular for a time, and he'd do the soundtracks to all of his films himself; yep, all on synthesizers. They gave his films a very "unique vibe" for the time. I've always held him in high regard, particularly for They Live, which remains for me a classic sci-fi film. At least by his mid 80's films he was less dependent on the synth sounds in his films. I think he said in an interview years back that he did his own soundtracks in order to save money in getting his movies made. The less you have to outsource the smaller the budget, which keeps the studios happy of course.

I've just scanned a selection of cd's on my shelf that have been in my recent listening pile, and I'll list a few notable names of what must now be defined as anti-human music; Depeche Mode, Underworld, Orbital, Adam F, Goldie, Plaid, Black Dog, Sabres of Paradise, Photek. All very interesting, and in most cases brilliantly sequenced and composed music, but is it healthy for me to continue listening to this stuff? Probably not. At this rate I'm gonna be leading a folk-music revival!:lol: It puts a whole different spin on the old "Dylan goes electric" controversy of the mid 60's now doesn't it? The trad folkies were right all along!
 
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