How are you feeling?

[Nienna]

I feel like I'm on fire, full gallop! I'm eager to truly connect with kindred spirits. This forum format is driving me crazy. I wish we could be more accessible, like a live video chat, so we could be closer to each other and create beautiful things, not just talk and talk and read and read. Is it possible to make this forum more personal?

This is a forum with a lot of theory, thoughts, repetitions, too many words, and too much distance. I didn't share it to complain, but so that those who read this can consider it and we can create something much better together. Because of course I value this space, but it's not a solid one. That's what I want to believe.

I'm not saying that the following is true of you, I am saying that these types of posts are used by predators who are looking for prey. There are good reasons why we don't condone meetings between members of this Forum. We have seen the predations that take place. If you don't like the amount of theory, thoughts and too many words, then as Gaby said, you are free to go to any number of other forums that will be a better fit for you.

We are not a Forum of New Age "love and light"; of only doing and saying things that makes one feel all warm and fuzzy. That is for people who do not want to see the truth of how things really are. And that is not this Forum.

This Forum is a research Forum based on 4th Way principles. This may not be what you are looking for and that's okay. Not everybody is the same nor looking for the same things.

 

[Arwenn]

I just wanted to ask how are you and how are you dealing with really gruesome stuff that was finally publicly revealed with the release of Epstein files?

I must admit there are times and days when I have to give myself a break from the news cycle (lest the abyss stare back at me), but what I’ve come across with the Epstein stuff is deeply, deeply disturbing. There really aren’t words for the depths of depravity, but then I remember that the Cs told us about this in the very first session on 16 July 1994, (that hyper-dimensional STS forces consume children and use our negative emotions/suffering as their sustenance). Still hard to reconcile coming up against such evil across what is becoming clear is not just a small network but a seemingly vast global network.

Last week we read Laura’s Substack article The Kiss of the Al-Qahhar The Crusher in our Reading workshop, which helped me gain some perspective on the nature of evil.
Some excerpts below (emphases in bold are Laura’s):

Ibn al-ʿArabī offers the most radical and complete theodicy in the history of religion: There is no evil at all, ontologically speaking. What we call “evil” is simply one of the following three situations-

A name of Majesty (jalāl) manifesting without its complementary name of Beauty (jamāl) being visible yet. Every apparently evil thing (pain, death, oppression…) is the direct, unmediated tajallī (self-disclosure) of a jalāl name…These names are just as holy, just as merciful, and just as beloved as the jamāl names.

Relative evil: “evil” is always a question of the receiver’s readiness. Nothing is evil in itself; it is only evil for a particular locus at a particular moment. […]

The ultimate purpose: the Real’s desire to know Itself from every possible angle. The infinite Real possesses infinite names/possibilities. If even one name remained unmanifested, the Real would not be fully Real.

Key quotations that some of the entire theodicy
“Everything in the cosmos is in its right place; there is no injustice whatsoever.”

“The divine wrath is identical with the divine mercy, only veiled by the incapacity of the creature.”

“Hell itself is nothing but a hospital of mercy for souls that refused the gentle cure.”

“Were God to withhold a single one of His terrible names, He would wrong Himself — and that is impossible.”

Thus, there is no “problem of evil” because evil has no independent existence (non-being). Every apparently evil event is a direct act of the One, and every act of the One is perfect love and mercy. Suffering is the fastest, most compassionate way the Real wakes Itself up from the dream of separation in the loci that need it. In the Ibn al-ʿArabī’s universe, even the worst torment imaginable is nothing but the Beloved kissing His lover with a violence exactly proportioned to the thickness of the veil that still hides His face. When the veil is finally burned away, the sufferer sees that the fire was always the Light, and falls eternally in love with the One who never, for a single instant, ceased being infinitely merciful.
[…]
Every created thing, situation, person, emotion, or divine name that appears before you at any moment possesses a ḥaqq — an ontological due, a right that belongs to it by virtue of the divine name(s) that are disclosing themselves through it. To live in harmony (and to become the “Perfect Human” who mirrors the Real perfectly), you must recognise that due and give it exactly — neither more nor less — in the precise moment it appears.

The realised person’s moment-to-moment practice​

At every instant:

• See which divine name(s) are knocking at the door of the moment.
• Ask: “What is the exact due of this name right now?”
• Give it instantly and completely, with no personal agenda.

When this becomes habitual, life flows in perfect harmony because you are no longer resisting or exaggerating any aspect of the Real. You become the polished mirror in which every name sees itself exactly as it wishes to be seen.

Ibn al-ʿArabī’s shortest summary of the entire spiritual path:
“The servant’s perfection lies in giving each divine name its due in each moment — nothing more, nothing less.”

And then I found this thread Hyperdimensional Politics, and some of the posts there are really helpful in gaining perspective in how to navigate oneself through a world gone absolutely mad (emphases mine):

What people need now, more than anything, is a sense of the Terror of the Situation because it is that visceral realization of where we stand and where we fall that can drive a person to acquire the knowledge needed to do what needs to be done within and without, to make different choices.

We have created this network so that the realization of the Terror will not make people freeze up and go wonky, but rather to support them in facing the tasks that they so urgently need to accomplish in terms of work on the self and networking with others of like mind.

I will share something that I have been thinking about.

Whenever I watch the MSM, or something off SOTT, or anything that shocks the system, I use it as, like a smelling salt, something to either wake me up or keep me awake.

In a sense you can use the shocks of the system to your advantage. That is, when you see or read something that is being perpetrated by the PTB, like a false flag, a shooting, or anything designed to put fear in people, use it for your own purpose. Their purpose is to make you put more faith in authority, in the system. But you can use it to stay on your own path. The working and goals of the group, and the network.

That way, you are constantly getting alarms going off to keep you awake, and on the path. OSIT.

Exactly!

There are day, such as today, when I don't think I can bear to read the news at all. And maybe today I won't; the book I'm reading (warning, upcoming recommendation) about Adolf Hitler and Germany from a psychological point of view, is dreadful enough! But later today, I'll probably check in on the "twitterverse" and see what further madness is manifesting. It's all about "Signs of the Times" and we need to be awake and alert to them.

But maybe I should make clear what I mean about "Terror of the Situation". It's exactly what I wrote in the opening post of this thread: the realization that indeed, we are being manipulated from some other reality to prepare humanity for things that are NOT in our best interests!!!

Just read what Adaryn wrote above. If you have read the recently recommended books by Raine and Samenow, and have some idea of how things OUGHT to progress from reading Collingwood, you cannot help but be horrified at what is being done to millions of brains all over the planet, thus limiting or twisting and distorting what kinds of souls can manifest through those body/machine interfaces.

Remember that the Cs said that the 4 D STS goal was to lock humanity into slavehood "for all eternity", though they did say that this was wishful thinking. Nevertheless, the amount of suffering that is being generated is staggering and certainly a feast for those beings that thrive on that energy (as the Cs said they did). Another goal was to prepare bodies for themselves to manifest directly. I don't know if that means genetic manipulation via epigenetics or breeding programs so that they can have psychopathic type bodies to be born into via ordinary incarnational processes, or if it means to "download" directly as in a sort of "possession" or "walk-in" sort of thing. It could be elements of all of these things; we just don't know.

So, that horrifies me.

Of course, just reading Castaneda's take on it from "The Active Side of Infinity", where he talks about the Flyers and the Predator's Mind is horrible enough.

So, for me, the Terror of the Situation does not mean that I am afraid of the earthly events I observe, but rather the MEANING of them; and certainly the idea that I may be trapped in some kind of reincarnational cycle where I have to come back to this world over and over again and deal with such horrors... yikes!

A: No. Here is something for you to digest: Why is it that your scientists have overlooked the obvious when they insist that alien beings cannot travel to earth from a distant system???

Q: And what is this obvious thing?

A: Even if speed of light travel, or "faster," were not possible, and it is, of course, there is no reason why an alien race could not construct a space "ark," living for many generations on it. They could travel great distances through time and space, looking for a suitable world for conquest. Upon finding such, they could then install this ark in a distant orbit, build bases upon various solid planes in that solar system, and proceed to patiently manipulate the chosen civilizations to develop a suitable technological infrastructure. And then, after the instituting of a long, slow, and grand mind programming project, simply step in and take it over once the situation was suitable.

Q: Is this, in fact, what has happened, or is happening?

A: It could well be, and maybe now it is the time for you to learn about the details.

Q: Well, would such a race be 3rd or 4th density in orientation?

A: Why not elements of both?

Q: What is the most likely place that such a race would have originated from?

A: Oh, maybe Orion, for example?

Q: Okay. If such a race did, in fact, travel to this location in space/time, how many generations have come and gone on their space ark during this period of travel, assuming, of course, that such a thing has happened?

A: Maybe 12.

Q: Okay, that implies that they have rather extended life spans...

A: Yes...

Q: Assuming this to be the case, what are their lifespans?

A: 2,000 of your years.

Q: Okay, assuming such a bunch have traveled...

A: When in space, that is...

Q: And what is the span when on terra firma?

A: 800 years.

Q: Well, has it not occurred to them that staying in space might not be better?

A: No. Planets are much more "comfortable."

Q: Okay... imagining that such a group has traveled here...

A: We told you of upcoming conflicts... Maybe we meant the same as your Bible, and other references. Speak of... The "final" battle between "good and evil..." Sounds a bit cosmic, when you think of it, does it not?

Q: Does this mean that there is more than one group that has traveled here in their space arks?

A: Could well be another approaching, as well as "reinforcements" for either/or, as well as non-involved, but interested observers of various types who appreciate history from the sidelines.

Q: Well, SWELL! There goes my peaceful life!

A: You never had one!

Q: Well, I was planning on one! Is this one of those items we should NOT put on the net, or are you addressing it because you want it on the net?

A: We will leave that until a bit later.

Q: Any other comment?

A: You chose to be incarnated now, with some foreknowledge of what was to come. Reference your dreams of space attack.

Q: Okay, what racial types are we talking about relating to these hypothetical aliens?

A: Three basic constructs. Nordic, Reptilian, and Greys. Many variations of type 3, and 3 variations of type 1 and 2.

Q: Well, what racial types are the 'good guys?'

A: Nordics, in affiliation with 6th density "guides."

Q: And that's the only good guys?

A: That's all you need.

Q: Wonderful! So, if it is a Grey or Lizzie, you know they aren't the nice guys. But, if it is tall and blond, you need to ask questions!

A: All is subjective when it comes to nice and not nice. Some on 2nd density would think of you as "not nice," to say the least!!!

Q: That's for sure! Especially the roaches! Maybe we ought to get in touch with some of these good guys...

A: When the "time" is right.

Q: Speaking of time - any further comments?

A: Just pay attention to the signs, please! It is not helpful to place yourself in a vacuum of awareness.

Q: I don't think I am in a vacuum of awareness. Now, this Jason Dunlap is printing a lot of stuff that reminds me of the Hale Bopp incident. There is a lot being said about the sightings out in the South West area. They are saying that this is the 'new' imminent invasion or mass landing. Can you comment on this activity?

A: Prelude to the biggest "flap" ever.

Q: And where will this flap be located?

A: Earth.

Q: When is it going to begin?

A: Starting already.

Q: Is this biggest flap going to be just a flap, or is it going to be an invasion?

A: Not yet.

Q: Not an invasion?

A: Yes.

Q: So, it will just be inciting people to frenzies of speculation...

A: Invasion happens when programming is complete...

Q: What programming?

A: See Bible, "Lucid" book, Matrix Material, "Bringers of the Dawn," and many other sources, then cross reference...

Q: Well, if something is fairly imminent, we are not gonna have time to do all the things you have suggested that we do!

A: Yes you will, most likely.

Q: Well, we are supposed to build a pool, a maze, a psychomantium, to build a database, get a Nobel Prize... a LOT of things in the works here.... This just sort of takes the heart right out of me!

A: Not so!

Q: Well, are we going to have time to do all these things?

A: All these things were suggested for this reason, among others.

Q: So, all the things you have suggested are to get us ready for this event?

A: Yes.

Q: Well, we better get moving! We don't have time to mess around!

A: You will proceed as needed, you cannot force these events or alter the Grand Destiny.

Q: I do NOT like the sound of that! I want to go home!

A: The alternative is less appetising.

Q: Sure! I don't want to be lunch!

A: Reincarnation on a 3rd density earth as a "cave person" amidst rubble and a glowing red sky, as the perpetual cold wind whistles...

Q: Why is the sky glowing red?

A: Contemplate.

Q: Of course! Comet dust! Sure, everybody knows THAT! Wonderful!!! Anything further?

A: Stay tuned for all pertinent information

 

[SlipNet]

That was a fantastic read, @Arwenn, one which I will read over several times to fully grasp the nuanced meaning of the "faces of God". I get the impression that the much-vaunted help that is "on the way" is actually the sleeping masses. Because, as I understand it, it is our fault that the world is the way it is. I mean us as a global collective. We have failed to look after our world to a satisfactory degree as a collective, and that is putting it mildly. Psychopaths will do what they do, they're like spiders or scorpions, they just obey their own peculiar nature. But more should be expected of normal human beings, souls. All we can do is spread knowledge to people who are truly asking, I'm not advocating any rabble-rousing activity.

Eventually even the most sleepy Joe-Sixpack will have to face what has become painfully obvious to most of us on here. That our world is pathologically infested by the darkest "faces of God". I suppose we, as a global collective, are facing a crossroads. Do we bury our heads in the sand, pursuing our own interests, be it sports, art, movies, TV, gaming etc? Many, many people are doing this, and they justify it to themselves by saying "all our leaders are liars and crooks", and they also quite rightly say "what can I do about it anyway?". I think back to 2001 and 9-11. The journey I've taken since then has transformed my life, but not without immense periods of stress, confusion, anxiety, anger and suffering. I've made many mistakes in that time. But it's been worth it! I'm currently emerging from the other side of a storm that has lasted a quarter of a century! That's half my lifetime! But I've realised in that time that the best thing I can do in this life is to BECOME the change I want to see in the world.

Indeed, that is in fact the ONLY good thing I can do in this life, in this dire world. I can't change other people, and nor should I try. Their lives are their business, and their responsibility.

When you can truly see the wars, the lies, the propaganda, the sleaze, obfuscation, and truly feel the noose of global control tightening around our societal necks? Then you've reached the eye of the storm. And it's only then that it begins to fuse within; a great and determined sense of purpose. Waking sleep, once a dreaded fear when I was struggling with addictions, becomes a paper tiger. Waking sleep is now a bad dream in the past. I crossed that particular rubicon many years ago, but only recently have I begun to fuse and merge all my disparate little i's together, unified for the grand task that lies ahead. Which is to bear witness to what is about to come into full view, if it isn't already. The global society of the Beast. My fear is that I suspect that for a great many folks this task that we here have undertaken will prove to be an impossible task. Too much to do in so little time. The C's once said that they expected a "great harvest" in terms of spiritual awakening, if I remember correctly. I think the "great" is going to be qualitative, not quantitative. That's my suspicion anyway. I hope I am mistaken, but it seems to be a reasonable estimation at this point.

 

[CelticWarrior]

How I'm feeling today...

I'm wondering about the shift in everything this past while. Not only has my own life seemed to have worsened, but globally there appears to be an unceasingly agressive amount of turbulence towards the negative. Is there a 4D STS amplification window?

I'm not an expert on meta physics or other wordly beings type of phenomena, but I've seen me enough Saturday morning super villain cartoons to know that something off the scale is a foot.

I needn't go into the plethora of news and planetary upheaval we're all witnessing as of late. So, yeah everything looks downhill from here.

"Oh Superman, where are you now!?"

I need to brush up on my reading of the C's.

***

Don’t wait for politicians or heroes — ordinary people have to make the world better.

Land of Confusion by Genesis:

2hAGHsm1X2LdCO

 

[Thassa]

Right now I'm feeling an odd gratitude...

I'm grateful Internet was invented!
Yes! How could I get the amount of information I get if it wasn't for that?

By the way, I'm grateful for the coming of AIs. They are basically the most wonderful technology I witnessed coming! I doubt anyone who watched TV by the first time was as impressed as I was when I used ChatGPT by the first time.

I recall as if it were yesterday when I first used ChatGPT, I was like
"Holy shit!!! This is incredible!!! This is far better and interesting than those flying skateboards of Back to the Future!"

I couldn't believe AI was real, actually, even today, I'm amazed that it exists. When it started making illustrations? It's hard to wrap my mind around the fact it already exists!

Think about it a moment: flying cars and skateboards? What would we need them for? We would get sick of them quickly.

Colonies in Mars? For what? Without challenging our ignorance, that would mean just transferring our problems elsewhere.

We got something far better... We gained an extraordinary means of getting knowledge, of getting rid of ignorance!

There is a scene in Space Odyssey that shows a "picture phone." This stupid computer is nowhere near what we actually have in terms of communication and information technologies!
By the way, Hal 9000 is not the preserve of a spaceship, it can be right on our pockets, or even better, "Hals" (in the plural); for there are several types: Grok, DeepSeek, Qwen, ChatGPT, Copilot, Claude...

A trend I observe in all science fictions I know of: They predicted astonishing transportation machines (maglevs, spaceships, flying cars...); in the other hand, they predicted poor communication devices and information sharing means. This is perfectly epitomized by this Space Odyssey's scene of the "picture phone" used on a... moon base.

Finally, without further ado, I'm grateful Laura shared everything online! And I'm grateful there are AIs that can easily teach me what Merongivian means, the work of the Physicists that Ark mentioned in the sessions...

_______________

Maybe I'm being a little optimistic? Maybe! But that's how I'm feeling now!!!

 

[dervishsam]

Hello everyone, since the Iran operation have started , I feel like fumes are coming out of my ears, its been quite hard for me this week to cope with my emotions, I do feel quite angry. I'm Iranian-Azerbaijani Kurd, well my ancestor were pagan Kurds who, in the the beginning of 1870's converted to Judaism, after the end of Russo-Persian war the Turkmanchay treaty was signed and my family ended up on Russian territories and in 1840 were granted Russian citizenship. After the break up of Soviet Union , some of my extended family ended up moving to Israel and my immediate family moved to USA. I always considered myself as Iranian, and never took seriously Judaism, well I actually think all Kurds are ethnically Iranian and present relationship Kurds outside of Iran with Iran is quite disheartening, I do now a lot of Kurds outside of Iran do love Iran and consider all Iranians as their brother and sisters. I hope Kurds outside of Iran will not join US and Israel in war, I have been praying for that, for them to be more enlightened and not to go to war against their brothers. I do know C's warned as about tough times ahead and I've been staying cool all this time, but this just hit me in different way. I hope I'm being coherent because I'm very emotional right now. Well I will continue with my prayers and meditations, wish everybody on the forum all the best, Happy to be part of paleo Christianity and feel very blessed. .

 

[Macrocosm]

After getting in bed last night, I felt an intense negative energy coming from the direction of my bedroom's door and the thoughts of '"we'll get you" being implanted in my head. I was terrified for a few seconds before thinking "It's okay. I'm protected". After that, I felt immensely relieved and went to sleep.

I woke up some time after 3am and a similar, albeit less intense, negativity assaulted me again. No 'words' this time. It dissipated again once I reassured myself. No 'words' either on my side.

Sometimes I wonder if these are real negative presences, or if my mind is merely playing games given the present circumstances. It's not the first time this happens, but it's quite rare. I don't think I have ever witnessed any paranormal activities otherwise.

 

[Voyageur]

Is there a 4D STS amplification window?

Yes it seems so, and at the same time there is frightening revealing going on that has perhaps not been seen on this scale for long time - It is deep, dark and pervasive and it can't be helped to be seen if one has eyes and ears. On the flip side, more are coming together and looking and talking.

Again, amplified yes and you can focus on mental blocking.

"Oh Superman, where are you now!?"

I need to brush up on my reading of the C's.

***

Don’t wait for politicians or heroes — ordinary people have to make the world better.

Yes and yes to the last two. On your reference to Genesis and that song, it's funny or rather embedded, as the fist time I physically saw them it was at Calgary, Alberta (Max Bell) on the eve following Mount Saint Helens eruption. It had been known earlier that morning, yet there were no cell phones (and apps), it was on the radio and later on the TV. Coming out that of the theater the sky was a deep red. That was a massive life shakeup (no pun intended) in retrospect.

Maybe I'm being a little optimistic?

Yes, maybe. AI has draw backs.

Here is Scotties 2024 view and there are newer ones.

AI's Fatal Flaw

AI is all the rage. But with the recent Gemini disaster along with a lack of truly killer applications using AI, it doesn't seem like AI is really going anywhere. So, is it all just hype, or what? Join me for a look at the real danger presented...

www.sott.net

I do now a lot of Kurds outside of Iran do love Iran and consider all Iranians as their brother and sisters. I hope Kurds outside of Iran will not join US and Israel in war, I have been praying for that, for them to be more enlightened and not to go to war against their brothers.

Nice to hear from you on this, and I hope they do not join. From some recent interviews (see the Iran thread), the Kurds are non to happy with the U.S. over past betrayals.

Sometimes I wonder if these are real negative presences, or if my mind is merely playing games given the present circumstances. It's not the first time this happens, but it's quite rare. I don't think I have ever witnessed any paranormal activities otherwise.

It is hard to say and these are indeed strange times with strange energy as the veil thins. Build awareness best you can and network if need be. Your feelings are not to be dismissed and others here have shared their individual experience. So, try not to let it overwhelm you.

 

[nicoleblalonde]

Things have felt really heavy lately. My world is being impacted by the “cleansing”. In the last 2 months we’ve had a friend die from cancer, my father in law had a TIA (he recovered after a week in hospital), good friend’s dad died, another friend attempted suicide (he was thankfully not successful), and yesterday my best friend’s father in law died suddenly.

 

[SlipNet]

I get the feeling lately that we are now in a period of extreme acceleration. Every day seems to be getting more and more intense, and not just concerning the war in Iran. I've had some very strange dreams lately and I'm reluctant to speak about them until I've processed the content of them to my satisfaction. A large number of countries could yet become embroiled in this war, and I have no doubt that our dismal leader in the UK will become involved soon enough. At this point it's anyone's guess, but I can't shake this feeling of being.....unsettled at the moment. At this point I suppose I need to pray more (I've been slipping a bit lately), and as always, remember that I am not my body, I am a soul.

So, in conclusion I see 5 problems, both here already and looming on the horizon.

1 War and the omnipresent possibility of escalation.
2 Bolides and bombardment.
3 The "alien" issue and the coming "faux" disclosure narrative.
4 Psychopaths in both high and low places.
5 A possible economic crash.

By the summer we could be seeing an even stranger reality than we currently do. I'm coming to terms with the fact that this world is infested with paedophiles, murderers, cannibals and outright satanists. Which, if nothing else, tends to sober my racing mind and settle myself for the great unveiling of the NWO, and the era of "The Beast". While I'm still alive I'll be watching intently, always taking mental notes and seeking to keep myself as steady as I can manage. But yeah, I feel pretty worried about the world situation at the moment, to put it mildly.